1!

zed? dangit TexB :)

Nice start to my Sunday.

Dude! Hi Teddy

Teddy!

i m peach mint

No zed for me.

why can’t I remember to log in?

Teddy – you are the best!!! thanks so very much

TexBetsy @ 1

1!

Congrats, Ma’am!!!

TSF!!!

jacqrat! i see you are f’d sweet-

jacqrat @ 8

why can’t I remember to log in?

You don’t stay logged in?

Hi all!

Suzanne @ 9

Teddy – you are the best!!! thanks so very much

Heh, Teddy got Kink-y, tonite, ‘Lola’!!!

I love this song teddy C-O-L-A cola

Good Lord, Teddy, this takes me back to high school!

A blast from the past:

In and around the lake …

tex, some browswers (like mine) unlog ya when you close the browser.

Loo Hoo. @ 17

Good Lord, Teddy, this takes me back to high school!

I know, huh?

Hi, J!

TexBetsy @ 13

jacqrat @ 8

why can’t I remember to log in?

You don’t stay logged in?

I think that’s a cookies thing, or a javascript thing. Haven’t worked up wordpress yet.

This one is odd. Any conspiracy theories?

Mystery deaths hit Saudi camels
from BBC News | News Front Page | World Edition
Nearly 2,000 camels have died this month in Saudi Arabia due to suspected poisoned animal feed.

‘Lola’ is one of my kids’ (8 & 10) favorite songs – we’re learning it on the guitar together.

EPUd

burnspbesq @ 295

bmaz @ 288

Bidwell may literally be the worst owner in the history of professional sports in terms of competency (Although Cardinals just went up on the Chargers with one minute left in the game), but he is not a bad man; lot of silent philanthropic stuff that he purposely doesn’t seek press for. The stadium naming was in conjunction with the City of Glendale and the Maricopa County Sports Authority if I recall correctly, and getting the most dollars was part of the whole financing deal. Other than that Bidwell does suck though…

OK, but why not “Pat Tillman Field at the University of Phoenix Stadium?”

Dunno. They did name a huge, nice pavilion and party area surrounding the stadium “Pat Tillman Freedom Pavilion” and have him on their ring of honor, where he will be immortalized because the Cardinals, seeing how they SUCK so freaking bad, don’t have many players in the ring of honor….

Never understood the words/meaning.

Hi margot!

Margot @ 14

Hi all!

Hey Margot!

kink-y!
a rock ‘n roll classic.

TexBetsy @ 22

This one is odd. Any conspiracy theories?

Mystery deaths hit Saudi camels
from BBC News | News Front Page | World Edition
Nearly 2,000 camels have died this month in Saudi Arabia due to suspected poisoned animal feed.

melamine from china again. its been in europe and russia too. the chinese are starting to realize that they are going to have to put in western style quality control. look for the price of EVERYTHING from china to double within a year. They have zero infrastructure for that sort of thing, and you think WE have problems with corruption…

burnspbesq @ 18

A blast from the past:

In and around the lake …

C’mon, Burns, get a Lake reference in there somewhere…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDiLOMP9MNE

Loo Hoo. @ 25

Never understood the words/meaning.

think country rube walking into a tranny bar and not knowing that what it is, loohoo

CRAWFORD, Texas | In his weekly radio address, President Bush said Saturday that Iraqis are sacrificing dearly to secure their country. “Here at home, it can be easy to overlook the bravery shown by Iraqi troops and Iraqi civilians who are in the fight for freedom,” Bush said. But former Democratic Sen. Max Cleland of Georgia, in his party’s address, said Bush was ignoring the facts to again try to sell the Iraq war.

TexBetsy @ 22

This one is odd. Any conspiracy theories?

Mystery deaths hit Saudi camels
from BBC News | News Front Page | World Edition
Nearly 2,000 camels have died this month in Saudi Arabia due to suspected poisoned animal feed.

Speaking of camels, TexBetsy…(although it may be old news, I dunno)

TexBetsy @ 22

This one is odd. Any conspiracy theories?

Mystery deaths hit Saudi camels
from BBC News | News Front Page | World Edition
Nearly 2,000 camels have died this month in Saudi Arabia due to suspected poisoned animal feed.

Only if they import ingredients for the camel feed from China.

(pop) sound of foot leaving mouth.

got to apologize to bob in HI. feel better now.

althespook @ 21

TexBetsy @ 13

You don’t stay logged in?

I think that’s a cookies thing, or a javascript thing. Haven’t worked up wordpress yet.

Spook,
I left you an answer downstairs @ 316.
Oops, just saw you @35. Does that mean you read me downstairs @ 316?

Bob in HI

Suzanne @ 31

Loo Hoo. @ 25

Never understood the words/meaning.

think country rube walking into a tranny bar and not knowing that what it is, loohoo

I’m glad my kids think it’s a cool song. It’s a good way to have a conversation about people having different orientations. I get so sick of hearing kids use ‘gay’ as an epithet. My kids are learning better.

Once again I’m so confused. Who is Lola? Is this a transgender song I totally didn’t/don’t understand? Help.

It seemed really simple back in the day…

Helpless Dancer @ 34

TexBetsy @ 22

This one is odd. Any conspiracy theories?

Only if they import ingredients for the camel feed from China.

AFAIK everyone is doing it. but no specific knowledge…I know they found melamine in toxic levels in all sorts of pet food in Russia there were several articles about it. I use the

bobschacht @ 36

althespook @ 21

I think that’s a cookies thing, or a javascript thing. Haven’t worked up wordpress yet.

Spook,
I left you an answer downstairs @ 316.
Oops, just saw you @35. Does that mean you read me downstairs @ 316?

Bob in HI

left a response. bottom line, foolish snark. apology tendered, no church denigration intended because I don’t view Xtianists as having churches, merely meeting places.

Apple pie.

Loo Hoo. @ 25

Never understood the words/meaning.

http://www.lyricsfreak.com/k/k…..79021.html

Loo Hoo. @ 38

Once again I’m so confused. Who is Lola? Is this a transgender song I totally didn’t/don’t understand? Help.

It seemed really simple back in the day…

Yes, it is – and a really good one, too.

bobschacht @ 36

althespook @ 21

I think that’s a cookies thing, or a javascript thing. Haven’t worked up wordpress yet.

Spook,
I left you an answer downstairs @ 316.
Oops, just saw you @35. Does that mean you read me downstairs @ 316?

Bob in HI

Bob, AK confirmed that he couldn’t read my comment, but, everytime I hit the link it’s staring me in the face……

This should help LooHoo:

Kinks – Lola Lyrics

I met her in a club down in old Soho where they
drink champagne and it tastes just like cherry
cola C-O-L-A cola
she walked up to me and she asked me to dance
I asked her her name and in a dark brown voice she said
Lola L-O-L-A Lola Lo lo lo lo Lo – la

Well I’m not the world’s most physical guy
But when she sqeezed me tight she nearly broke my spine
Oh my Lola la-la-la-la Lola
Well I’m not dumb but I can’t understand
Why she walked like a woman but talked like a man
Oh my Lola la-la-la-la Lola la-la-la-la Lola

Well, we drank champagne and danced all night
Under electric candle light
She picked me up and sat me on her knee
and said “dear boy won’t you come home with me?”
Well, I’m not the world’s most passionate guy,
but when I looked in her eyes, well I almost fell for my
Lola Lo lo lo lo Lo – la Lo lo lo lo Lo – la
Lola Lo lo lo lo Lo – la Lo lo lo lo Lo – la

I pushed her away
I walked to the door
I fell to the floor
I got down on my knees
Then I looked at her and she at me

Well that’s the way that I want it to stay
And I always want it to be that way for my Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Girl will be boys and boys will be girls
It’s a mixed up muddled up shook up world except for Lola
La-la-la-la Lola

CHORUS #2:
Well I left home just a week before
And I’d never ever kissed a woman before
But Lola smiled and took me by the hand
And said “Dear boy, I’m gonna make you a man”

Well I’m not the world’s most masculine man
But I know what I am and I’m glad that I’m a man
And so is Lola
La-la-la-la Lola la-la-la-la Lola
Lola la-la-la-la Lola la-la-la-la Lola

TexBetsy @ 41

Apple pie.

luscious. just had peach (with whipped cream).

Wow. Some powerful, dark humor about the Iraq situation in the new Sunday Doonesbury.

Anyone know how to block a contact using gmail?

althespook @ 40

bobschacht @ 36

Spook,
I left you an answer downstairs @ 316.
Oops, just saw you @35. Does that mean you read me downstairs @ 316?

Bob in HI

left a response. bottom line, foolish snark. apology tendered, no church denigration intended because I don’t view Xtianists as having churches, merely meeting places.

Thanks. Got it.

Bob in HI

Suzanne @ 31

Loo Hoo. @ 25

Never understood the words/meaning.

think country rube walking into a tranny bar and not knowing that what it is, loohoo

This country rube is a tad miffed, ungrateful, I guess…!!! ;-)

Gawd did we really dress like that? I think I’m in love with the base player though. I guess it’s true what they say about the fads of your youth.

interesting take on Bush’s Vietnam/Iraq speech

George Bush Meets Graham Greene
In his speech linking Vietnam and Iraq, the president cited Greene’s 1955 classic “The Quiet American.” But who is the “naive” one? And who has “noble motives”?

CTuttle @ 44

bobschacht @ 36

Spook,
I left you an answer downstairs @ 316.
Oops, just saw you @35. Does that mean you read me downstairs @ 316?

Bob in HI

Bob, AK confirmed that he couldn’t read my comment, but, everytime I hit the link it’s staring me in the face……

I’ll write to our site manager and see if she can figure out what’s going on.

Bob in HI

a companion piece / bookend to “Lola”, Lou Reed’s Walk on the Wild Side

CTuttle @ 50

Suzanne @ 31

think country rube walking into a tranny bar and not knowing that what it is, loohoo

This country rube is a tad miffed, ungrateful, I guess…!!! ;-)

I give ya what ya want for your birthday and you complain that i short changed ya, rube :)

Suzanne @ 31

Loo Hoo. @ 25

Never understood the words/meaning.

think country rube walking into a tranny bar and not knowing that what it is, loohoo

…and finding out he LIKES it.

Like that dude in Priscilla, Queen of the Desert.

TexBetsy @ 48

Anyone know how to block a contact using gmail?

you need a delete filter, TexB. Go to create a filter link, type in the offending sob’s email in the FROM box. click on next step. select “delete”. hit finish. boom.

neurophius @ 42

Loo Hoo. @ 25

Never understood the words/meaning.

http://www.lyricsfreak.com/k/kinks/lo
la_20079021.html

Now thanks. That clears it up. How can it be that I didn’t get it? Isn’t “boys will be boys and boys will be girls” totally self-evident? I don’t know, I guess I just sang along with the song without understanding the meaning. Happened with Beatles songs too.

I liked the Weird Al version, “Yoda,” In fact I actually heard that version first. Long story.

punaise @ 54

a companion piece / bookend to “Lola”, Lou Reed’s Walk on the Wild Side

Another classic. Gosh, how did these songs get air time on AM stations back in the 60’s… if released now, corporate media would be refusing to play em. good thing they are considered classics now.

I always thought of it as a tale of hormones versus upbringing

Helpless Dancer @ 61

I always thought of it as a tale of hormones versus upbringing

I always thought of it as an awakening – him finding his true self

But I know what I am and I’m glad that I’m a man
And so is Lola

Marretta @ 59

I liked the Weird Al version, “Yoda,” In fact I actually heard that version first. Long story.

That’s why my kids liked it at first. They heard ‘Yoda’ and then I played them the real thing.

Of course, I love Weird Al, too.

CD @ 47

Wow. Some powerful, dark humor about the Iraq situation in the new Sunday Doonesbury.

Sadly, true.

Suzanne @ 55

CTuttle @ 50

This country rube is a tad miffed, ungrateful, I guess…!!! ;-)

I give ya what ya want for your birthday and you complain that i short changed ya, rube :)

I tells ya, some ungrateful curs out there…!!! ;-)

Alicia @ 63

Marretta @ 59

I liked the Weird Al version, “Yoda,” In fact I actually heard that version first. Long story.

That’s why my kids liked it at first. They heard ‘Yoda’ and then I played them the real thing.

Of course, I love Weird Al, too.

Same thing happened in our house!

TexBetsy @ 66

Same thing happened in our house!

Really? That’s wild. Whatever it takes, that’s what I say.

epu’d -

Anyone else (other than TexBetsy) read the Rolling Stone article on contracting in Iraq?

http://www.rollingstone.com/po…..ndle/print

W edit:

Nothing the Lake hasn’t heard about but, collectively, very damning. Anybody know how wide a readership Rolling Stone gets?

Got here late, but have a busy day for the morrow. I bid you all goodnite.

Softail @ 51

Gawd did we really dress like that? I think I’m in love with the base player though. I guess it’s true what they say about the fads of your youth.

Hey Softail!

Waccamaw @ 68

epu’d -

Anyone else (other than TexBetsy) read the Rolling Stone article on contracting in Iraq?

http://www.rollingstone.com/po…..ndle/print

W edit:

Nothing the Lake hasn’t heard about but, collectively, very damning. Anybody know how wide a readership Rolling Stone gets?

Jane linked to it several threads down in the comments. I think RS has a wide readership but that is just a feeling – not based on hard facts.

g’nite helpless dancer

Loo Hoo. @ 58

neurophius @ 42

http://www.lyricsfreak.com/k/kinks/lo
la_20079021.html

Now thanks. That clears it up. How can it be that I didn’t get it? Isn’t “boys will be boys and boys will be girls” totally self-evident? I don’t know, I guess I just sang along with the song without understanding the meaning. Happened with Beatles songs too.

I recall lots of odd glances from parental units in the rearview mirror as we sang Lola real loud. Guess that’s why.

Suzanne @ 60

punaise @ 54

a companion piece / bookend to “Lola”, Lou Reed’s Walk on the Wild Side

Another classic. Gosh, how did these songs get air time on AM stations back in the 60’s… if released now, corporate media would be refusing to play em. good thing they are considered classics now.

Don’t stop believing…!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip1zsUIosoA

Rolling Stone circ 1.2million per mediabistro

I had not heard “Yoda” before.

Thanks to those who mentioned it.

And thanks to YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ6hfXdxw5w

TeddySanFran @ 70

Softail @ 51

Gawd did we really dress like that? I think I’m in love with the base player though. I guess it’s true what they say about the fads of your youth.

Hey Softail!

Hi Teddy. Off to bed. Riding up north tomorrow then down through the Sierra to the Badger Flat run.

Best

Badgers in another Late Nite thread!

TeddySanFran @ 78

Badgers in another Late Nite thread!

Once again…

http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/

punaise @ 54

a companion piece / bookend to “Lola”, Lou Reed’s Walk on the Wild Side

Well, slap me once. I thought I was taking a walk on the wild side by smokin! I really need to grow up now.

TeddySanFran @ 78

Badgers in another Late Nite thread!

Badgers make me think of bunnies and that leads to camels and their footwear and.. never mind

neurophius @ 79

TeddySanFran @ 78

Badgers in another Late Nite thread!

Once again…

http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/

My kids got me onto that one too!

Suzanne @ 81

TeddySanFran @ 78

Badgers in another Late Nite thread!

Badgers make me think of bunnies and that leads to camels and their footwear and.. never mind

Camel toes??? ;-)

Suzanne @ 81

TeddySanFran @ 78

Badgers in another Late Nite thread!

Badgers make me think of bunnies and that leads to camels and their footwear and.. never mind

(faint ectoplasmic screaming heard in the distance…)

Loo Hoo. @ 80

punaise @ 54

a companion piece / bookend to “Lola”, Lou Reed’s Walk on the Wild Side

Well, slap me once. I thought I was taking a walk on the wild side by smokin! I really need to grow up now.

may we tie you up and call you Loretta?

Hell’s bells and codfish!

Suzanne – Did I scr*w up and turn the underline on for everybody?
It seems to have cleared up but please forgive if my fault and blessings be on the mod backstage who fixed it. I’m a Dem……..I take responsibility for my mistakes! *g*

TSF -

Tks for the feedback.

Military Warns of Potential CIA Abuses
from t r u t h o u t
Charlie Savage of The Boston Globe reports: “Top military lawyers have told senators that President Bush’s new rules for CIA interrogations of suspected terrorists could allow abuses that violate the Geneva Conventions, according to Senate and military officials.”

althespook @ 84

Suzanne @ 81

Badgers make me think of bunnies and that leads to camels and their footwear and.. never mind

(faint ectoplasmic screaming heard in the distance…)

If anyone knows about Camel Toes…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbXPHi

Waccamaw @ 86

Hell’s bells and codfish!

Suzanne – Did I scr*w up and turn the underline on for everybody?
It seems to have cleared up but please forgive if my fault and blessings be on the mod backstage who fixed it. I’m a Dem……..I take responsibility for my mistakes! *g*

not on my browser (firefox) and not backstage… perhaps you should do a hard refresh of your page and let me know if it is still happening
TSF -

Tks for the feedback.

Hi Betsy, Al. ;)

Suzanne @ 89

Waccamaw @ 86

Hell’s bells and codfish!

Suzanne – Did I scr*w up and turn the underline on for everybody?
It seems to have cleared up but please forgive if my fault and blessings be on the mod backstage who fixed it. I’m a Dem……..I take responsibility for my mistakes! *g*

TSF -

Tks for the feedback.

i hate it when i bury my comment in the quote.

here is my comment:
not on my browser (firefox) and not backstage… perhaps you should do a hard refresh of your page and let me know if it is still happening

punaise,
I always loved “Walk on the Wild Side” but evidently never listened to the words, because it wasn’t until about 1999 when someone explained it to me. Someone who was horrified that I just loved that song. Some Republican in a Yahoo political chat room, as a matter of fact…;)

Here’s a song I associate with that time period…maybe later…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tOkR0GR7HI
Low Sparks of High Heeled Boys

Margot @ 92

punaise,
I always loved “Walk on the Wild Side” but evidently never listened to the words, because it wasn’t until about 1999 when someone explained it to me. Someone who was horrified that I just loved that song. Some Republican in a Yahoo political chat room, as a matter of fact…;)

not your standard Bible Belt fair…

Sweet.. a little traffic for sat nites… all we need now is a black light and florescent paints

You do find some interesting stuff on YouTube.

Like a duet between Irish pop-idol Ronan Keating (eye-candy for the ladies!) and folk godess Kate Rusby.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So5g9hY9pcI

calling Ziggy Stardust.

punaise @ 97

calling Ziggy Stardust.

Changed everything. Nice one.

Does anyone remember light shows?
I knew a woman whose husband wanted to be a light show DJ.
They split up, what a shock….

Traffic – good stuff

Margot @ 99

Does anyone remember light shows?
I knew a woman whose husband wanted to be a light show DJ.
They split up, what a shock….

I remember light shows. I think. Hard to remember a lot about those days… err nights…

Suzanne -

If by “hard refresh” you mean go to another site and come back again, done and everything looks O.K. It only affected a couple of comments way back up the line. Guess nobody else got zapped or I woulda heard some hollering by now. Weeeeeeeehhhhhh!

Wish all y’all could have been here tonight to see a turtle nest “boil”. Boil = term used when it’s time for the eggs to hatch and all the babies start heading for the ocean. Dozens upon dozens of little critters trying to make it to the big, bad ocean…..it’s a wonderous sight to see.

Suzanne,
I remember they made me sick to my stomach and very sure I did not ever want psychadelics.

Suzanne @ 101

Margot @ 99

Does anyone remember light shows?
I knew a woman whose husband wanted to be a light show DJ.
They split up, what a shock….

I remember light shows. I think. Hard to remember a lot about those days… err nights…

7O7

Waccamaw @ 102

Suzanne -

If by “hard refresh” you mean go to another site and come back again, done and everything looks O.K. It only affected a couple of comments way back up the line. Guess nobody else got zapped or I woulda heard some hollering by now. Weeeeeeeehhhhhh!

Wish all y’all could have been here tonight to see a turtle nest “boil”. Boil = term used when it’s time for the eggs to hatch and all the babies start heading for the ocean. Dozens upon dozens of little critters trying to make it to the big, bad ocean…..it’s a wonderous sight to see.

I meant refresh the page (ala F5 on a PC) instead of the refresh comments button – but your way works too.

that does sound like a wonderous sight – they are not afraid of people?

punaise @ 100

Traffic – good stuff

Speaking of which, watch out for those Low Riders…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6c3emqC6aw

NPB! long time no see – how ya been dear?

I used to play Inagadadevida on my turntable, cranking up the drum solo in the middle cause i knew it was like fingernails on a chalkboard to my dad.

why should I care? why should I care?
…
out of my brain on the train

The Who – 5:15

Where were you in the summer of ‘72?

Here’s a song some sexual undertones, but hetero. Totally one of my favorites!

burnspbesq @ 110

Where were you in the summer of ‘72?

year i graduated high school

Suzanne @ 112

burnspbesq @ 110

Where were you in the summer of ‘72?

year i graduated high school

first grade

Suzanne @ 108

I used to play Inagadadevida on my turntable, cranking up the drum solo in the middle cause i knew it was like fingernails on a chalkboard to my dad.

This drum solo…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs7D-w06iwc

Loo Hoo. @ 111

Here’s a song some sexual undertones, but hetero. Totally one of my favorites!

Oh, my. It’s WNEW-FM night at the Lake. Complete with a rare personal appearance by Alison Steele, the Night Bird.

Suzanne @ 107

NPB! long time no see – how ya been dear?

Hanging in there dear Suze – counting the days til my fall mac class begins. You have mail.

Good night dear friends. My last late night for a while. The work thing picks up considerably this week.

Suzanne @ 112

burnspbesq @ 110

Where were you in the summer of ‘72?

year i graduated high school

That makes you a year older than me. That was the summer of my first job, my first driver’s license, my first serious girlfriend …

TexBetsy @ 117

Good night dear friends. My last late night for a while. The work thing picks up considerably this week.

Alas and alack! Ahs well, duty calls!!! Nite, Ma’am!!!

sleep well, tex, – will miss ya during the work week :(

looking now npb

TexBetsy @ 117

Good night dear friends. My last late night for a while. The work thing picks up considerably this week.

We’ll miss you. :-(

burnspbesq @ 110

Where were you in the summer of ‘72?

En route to my first full time job (at the University of Maryland) out of grad school.

Bob in HI

burnspbesq @ 118

Suzanne @ 112

year i graduated high school

That makes you a year older than me. That was the summer of my first job, my first driver’s license, my first serious girlfriend …

the summer of my honeymoon

TexBetsy @ 117

Good night dear friends. My last late night for a while. The work thing picks up considerably this week.

Good night, TexBetsy – take it easy!

TexBetsy @ 113

Suzanne @ 112

year i graduated high school

first grade

McGovern worker bee, Chicago.

bonne nuit, TexB

TexBetsy @ 113

Suzanne @ 112

year i graduated high school

first grade

I was 30. I had my first kid and was dealing with stocking the FEMA emergency command post under the Denver Federal Center. This was in the days when we foolishly believed the sov’s couldn’t hit it. Wife and I hiked to the top of Long’s Peak (big honking mountain near the Rocky Mountain National Park, actually in it) which is non technical until you get to the last 100 feet then its a cable and friends and praying as you go above a four thousand foot drop. Took piccies, then threw up and got anoxia. Had to be slid down the technical part until got low enough to breathe again. tore the complete seat out of my levis.

My wife, bless her, had a leather patch sewn on the levis as a souveneir. A year later my best friend “borrowed” them and had a leather engraver loving put “I lost my ass on longs peak” on the patch in lovely 1890’s scrollwork.

Quite the year. I think the Soviets developed the Satan ICBM that year, their first with MIRV capability. Screwed my day job all to hell.

burnspbesq @ 110

Where were you in the summer of ‘72?

in reform school.

burnspbesq @ 118

Suzanne @ 112

year i graduated high school

That makes you a year older than me. That was the summer of my first job, my first driver’s license, my first serious girlfriend …

IIRC, this gem was released in ‘73!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvbqIDrgQhY

‘72, the endless summer of Strat-o-Matic baseball and swimming pools. 7th grade looming.

Suzanne -

Pretty sure the F5 thingy doesn’t work on Mac-base.

Doubt they know humans are around…….the sea pulls them homeward. Light is a very bad thing because they will go toward it also therefore you hope that nearby houses don’t do stupid things like not closing window coverings or leaving exterior lights on. The person who’s “sitting” with the nest makes a sort of runway with ridges of sand on either side and moves in front of them with a single flash light to encourage them to head toward the ocean. It can be dangerous with humans around b/c the turtles sometimes get outside the runway and big feet can squish them easily. There was this one little laggard who everybody cheered on when s/he finally made it to the water.

Maybe I’ve come down enough from a successful hatching to try getting to sleep. Y’ll have fun playing music.

Do NOT skip this one from the early 70’s:

Going Fishing!

lakers, i’m fading fast. will see everyone manana. (po

TexBetsy @ 117

Good night dear friends. My last late night for a while. The work thing picks up considerably this week.

We’ll miss you!

Bob in HI

hi, npb

newspaperbrat @ 125

TexBetsy @ 113

first grade

McGovern worker bee, Chicago.

An honorable calling, that. I stuffed envelopes for the McGovern campaign in my home town. I doubt he got more than about 16 votes there. It was the kind of town where the dads got up in the morning, rode the train into the city, and ran the world. Senior execs, investment bankers, Wall Street lawyers. Not George’s natural constituency.

Suzanne @ 123

burnspbesq @ 118

That makes you a year older than me. That was the summer of my first job, my first driver’s license, my first serious girlfriend …

the summer of my honeymoon

Dang, I’s jes a young’un amongst ya’ll…!!! ;-)

Loo Hoo. @ 132

Do NOT skip this one from the early 70’s:

Going Fishing!

I loved that Taj Mahal record. My dad used to play it all the time. Somehow I had a feeling that that was what you were talking about…

(((((NPB)))))

Nite Betsy, hope to see you some during the week.

Just wandering by in the midst of computer problems… have fixed the Ethernet connection problems to the DSL modem, and have Qwest DSL service, and can hit the modem, but still don’t have internet access through the ISP. Therefore, no DNS, so dial-up is still the norm.

Listening to Phil Ochs’ “Links on the Chain” just now, and thinking how great it would be for everyone to disappear from work on Sept. 11th.

If we want to change things, we have to cost the powers that be some money. That’s what changes things in a society like ours….

montag, i was just thinking of you and tube troubles. :(

montag @ 141

Just wandering by in the midst of computer problems… have fixed the Ethernet connection problems to the DSL modem, and have Qwest DSL service, and can hit the modem, but still don’t have internet access through the ISP. Therefore, no DNS, so dial-up is still the norm.

Listening to Phil Ochs’ “Links on the Chain” just now, and thinking how great it would be for everyone to disappear from work on Sept. 11th.

If we want to change things, we have to cost the powers that be some money. That’s what changes things in a society like ours….

Montaq, you rule…!!!

I believe that this is also from 1973. I had such a crush.

Waccamaw @ 131

Suzanne -

Pretty sure the F5 thingy doesn’t work on Mac-base.

Doubt they know humans are around…….the sea pulls them homeward. Light is a very bad thing because they will go toward it also therefore you hope that nearby houses don’t do stupid things like not closing window coverings or leaving exterior lights on. The person who’s “sitting” with the nest makes a sort of runway with ridges of sand on either side and moves in front of them with a single flash light to encourage them to head toward the ocean. It can be dangerous with humans around b/c the turtles sometimes get outside the runway and big feet can squish them easily. There was this one little laggard who everybody cheered on when s/he finally made it to the water.

Maybe I’ve come down enough from a successful hatching to try getting to sleep. Y’ll have fun playing music.

sorry, i forget about the mac users being a pc user. thanks for the story of the little laggard – give me hope.

sleep well.

Suzanne @ 142

montag, i was just thinking of you and tube troubles. :(

Incrementally, it’s getting better. :) Little by little. Maybe Monday, I’ll get it all straightened out, now that Ethernet troubles are squared away. :)

Cheers.

(cursing) time for me to head out and clean house (again – more cursing) for just in case there is a showing tomorrow… seems like all i do is clean, clean, and then clean more. every day (more cursing)

g’nite all and i’ll see ya tomorrow for teddys’ sunday late nites.

we have a family of five wild turkeys strolling through our urban neighborhood (Berkeley) these days.

Suzanne @ 147

(cursing) time for me to head out and clean house (again – more cursing) for just in case there is a showing tomorrow… seems like all i do is clean, clean, and then clean more. every day (more cursing)

g’nite all and i’ll see ya tomorrow for teddys’ sunday late nites.

Goodnight, Sweetheart

punaise @ 135

hi, npb

Hey punaise – welcome home!

Did you see Adam Gopnik’s current New Yorker piece on President Sarkozy (The Human Bomb) and his visit with Bush in New Hampshire?

(8-27-07)

CTuttle @ 143

Montaq, you rule…!!!

Funny, I had Phil Ochs’ “All the News that’s Fit to Print” and “I Ain’t Marchin’ Anymore” on vinyl from forty years ago, and I left them with some friends in Michigan, and pretty much forgot that I’d passed them on. When I was back there visiting, they put on one of the Phil Ochs albums and I started getting a little teary-eyed hearing them again, and then, the guy I was visiting (who was a former labor organizer) said, “no, you can’t have them back.”

So, I found a set of CDs of those albums. :)

We still need to cost these assholes some money. That’s what gets their attention. (!)

Sweet dreams dear Suze!

good nite friends, see you tomorrow evening for late nite!

burnspbesq @ 144

I believe that this is also from 1973. I had such a crush.

Crush? This is truly
lovely!

Linda again, in Spanish. Sooo beautiful!

newspaperbrat @ 150

punaise @ 135

hi, npb

Hey punaise – welcome home!

Did you see Adam Gopnik’s current New Yorker piece on President Sarkozy (The Human Bomb) and his visit with Bush in New Hampshire?

(8-27-07)

I’ll check it out – still wading through the mail and magazines that piled up.

punaise @ 148

we have a family of five wild turkeys strolling through our urban neighborhood (Berkeley) these days.

Ben Franklin wanted the wild turkey to be the national bird…. It might be appropriate for wild turkeys to be strutting through Berkeley. :)

npb: I thought the Sarkozy article in New Yorker was fascinating, too. Here’s a link, for anybody who’s interested. I really like the magazine’s new web layout…

Niters Teddy SF. Sweet dreams.

Let me know if you are still keen on a northern CA meeting with DiFi.

Speaking of Linda-
Lowell George would be mighty proud of this.

montag @ 156

punaise @ 148

we have a family of five wild turkeys strolling through our urban neighborhood (Berkeley) these days.

Ben Franklin wanted the wild turkey to be the national bird…. It might be appropriate for wild turkeys to be strutting through Berkeley. :)

they blend right in…

burnspbesq @ 144

I believe that this is also from 1973. I had such a crush.

Crush eh? Have I got a story for you. Used to spend my summers during college in Santa Monica working for a family friend that ran a high end shop restoring antique autos. Summer of 76 (I think – outside chance it was 75 or 77) a friend at work upon finding out I didn’t have anything to do on the night of July 4 invited me to go with him and his family to a enclave of houses in Malibu for the big party there. His parents owned a house there and rented it out during the summer for huge bucks to stars, bands (Led Zep during a different summer), but, as owners, they had invite for the big bash. This enclave was, still is, known as “The Colony”. The entertainment that night was another resident of The Colony and her band. Linda Ronstadt. She played and hung out all night in a white bikini. Can’t really find the words to describe what a good thing this was…..

punaise @ 160

montag @ 156

Ben Franklin wanted the wild turkey to be the national bird…. It might be appropriate for wild turkeys to be strutting through Berkeley. :)

they blend right in…

But, isn’t Berkeley home to Yoo these days, err… nevermind…!!!

newtonusr @ 159

Speaking of Linda-
Lowell George would be mighty proud of this.

Gotta love that, newtonusr!!

CTuttle @ 162

But, isn’t Berkeley home to Yoo these days, err… nevermind…!!!

Yoo might be a turkey… but, one of the fat, large-breasted, slothful domestic variety…. :)

She is so HOT! Wonder what she is up to these days…

The entertainment that night was another resident of The Colony and her band. Linda Ronstadt. She played and hung out all night in a white bikini. Can’t really find the words to describe what a good thing this was…..

Loo Hoo. @ 154

burnspbesq @ 144

I believe that this is also from 1973. I had such a crush.

Crush? This is truly
lovely!

Linda again, in Spanish. Sooo beautiful!

Did ya’ll say Rush…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNZru4JG_Uo

This was my goodbye song to my ex-husband.

Loo Hoo. @ 165

She is so HOT! Wonder what she is up to these days…

The entertainment that night was another resident of The Colony and her band. Linda Ronstadt. She played and hung out all night in a white bikini. Can’t really find the words to describe what a good thing this was…..

Funny you should ask that. She was here in Phoenix tonight playing a medium sized indoor venue. Mostly does the standards and jazz standards these days I hear. Almost thought about going, but had scheduling issues.

punaise @ 97

calling Ziggy Stardust.

Oooh! I wore this 8-track OUT.

…jamming good with Weird and Gilly…!

Ah, bmaz. I’d love to see Linda. Somehow, I never did.

jacqrat @ 169

punaise @ 97

calling Ziggy Stardust.

Oooh! I wore this 8-track OUT.

…jamming good with Weird and Gilly…!

This was my favorite Bowie…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDetQ18fw5Q

CTuttle @ 162

But, isn’t Berkeley home to Yoo these days, err… nevermind…!!!

That son of a bitch tests the rationale for academic freedom. Would it have been appropriate to give academic freedom to Josef Goebbels?

I truly believe in academic freedom, but why can’t that bastard simply work for a right-wing think tank, where he belongs? At least, until his well-deserved trial at Den Haag.

Nighters all you fine intrepid late late nite firepups! Onward & Upward & all that good stuff.

TEDDY if you get back to this. Low Spark of High Heeled Boys.

What’s this?

wigwam @ 172

CTuttle @ 162
But, isn’t Berkeley home to Yoo these days, err… nevermind…!!!
That son of a bitch tests the rationale for academic freedom. Would it have been appropriate to give academic freedom to Josef Goebbels?

I truly believe in academic freedom, but why can’t that bastard simply work for a right-wing think tank, where he belongs? At least, until his well-deserved trial at Den Haag.

May he go the way of Goebbels, Nurenburg, oops, the Hague!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tOkR0GR7HI

Sorry.

Loo Hoo. @ 170

Ah, bmaz. I’d love to see Linda. Somehow, I never did.

I saw her in Houston, 1979. She was fabulous. When she did Desperado, it absolutely unhinged me. It didn’t really help that I was probably clinically depressed at the time…

Bob in HI

newspaperbrat @ 173

Nighters all you fine intrepid late late nite firepups! Onward & Upward & all that good stuff.

Nite, NPB!! I see Suz, snuck out the back door… !!!

Loo Hoo. @ 154

Crush? This is truly
lovely!

Linda again, in Spanish. Sooo beautiful!

How sad. my pod tube doesn’t rip youtube videos anymore… anyone else have a freeware software that does it for Mac?

Trials at the Hague is my hope. We need to reclaim America from the dregs we have allowed to represent America. Ah, they have allowed…

jacqrat @ 179

Loo Hoo. @ 154

Crush? This is truly
lovely!

Linda again, in Spanish. Sooo beautiful!

How sad. my pod tube doesn’t rip youtube videos anymore… anyone else have a freeware software that does it for Mac?

Hi jacqrat. I bought TubeSock a few months ago, but don’t know of a free one. Will look.

Loo Hoo. @ 170

Ah, bmaz. I’d love to see Linda. Somehow, I never did.

I’ve never seen her perform but have been a big fan ever since her Stone Pony days, i.e., different drum.

Once upon a time in the late seventies, I and my girlfriend were aiting in line outside McCabe’s Guitar Store for a concert by an obscure cajun acordian player, when a woman with entourage came stumbling across the street in bright red high-heeled shoes. I comment that that lady should learn to walk in her shoes, when my date pointed out that “that lady” was Linda Ronstadt.

It turns out that she wss extremely gracious to all of the guests around her. Very much a class act.

Now I’d like to see her perform, but it’s probably too late.

Jacqrat, how old is your computer? Sometimes, sad to say, you just need to chuck it and start over…

wigwam @ 182

Loo Hoo. @ 170

Ah, bmaz. I’d love to see Linda. Somehow, I never did.

I’ve never seen her perform but have been a big fan ever since her Stone Pony days, i.e., different drum.

Once upon a time in the late seventies, I and my girlfriend were aiting in line outside McCabe’s Guitar Store for a concert by an obscure cajun acordian player, when a woman with entourage came stumbling across the street in bright red high-heeled shoes. I comment that that lady should learn to walk in her shoes, when my date pointed out that “that lady” was Linda Ronstadt.

It turns out that she wss extremely gracious to all of the guests around her. Very much a class act.

Now I’d like to see her perform, but it’s probably too late.

Wigwam – Maybe missed my response to someone above; she played a concert in Phoenix tonight. She is around.

CTuttle-
Suzanne bailed on us about an hour ago. You lost in YouTubeVille?

newtonusr @ 181

jacqrat @ 179

How sad. my pod tube doesn’t rip youtube videos anymore… anyone else have a freeware software that does it for Mac?

Hi jacqrat. I bought TubeSock a few months ago, but don’t know of a free one. Will look.

Hi Newtie. thanks. my budget screams “Freeware!”

Loo Hoo. @ 183

Jacqrat, how old is your computer? Sometimes, sad to say, you just need to chuck it and start over…

ahem. Not that I wouldn’t enjoy the new brushed aluminum ones, my iMac is a dual core Intel model, not THAT old. could it have just been the one youtube?

bmaz @ 184

wigwam @ 182

I’ve never seen her perform but have been a big fan ever since her Stone Pony days, i.e., different drum.

Once upon a time in the late seventies, I and my girlfriend were aiting in line outside McCabe’s Guitar Store for a concert by an obscure cajun acordian player, when a woman with entourage came stumbling across the street in bright red high-heeled shoes. I comment that that lady should learn to walk in her shoes, when my date pointed out that “that lady” was Linda Ronstadt.

It turns out that she wss extremely gracious to all of the guests around her. Very much a class act.

Now I’d like to see her perform, but it’s probably too late.

Wigwam – Maybe missed my response to someone above; she played a concert in Phoenix tonight. She is around.

Ah! That’s very good news. She’s one of the few from that generation whom I’d pay to see.

I heard a couple of years ago that Linda had gained weight and didn’t want to perform live. Since she performed in Phoenix tonight, I assume she lost the weight.

Not that I care if she’s overweight…

jacqrat, I’m no techie. Shouldn’t have suggested anything!

CTuttle @ 175

wigwam @ 172

CTuttle @ 162
But, isn’t Berkeley home to Yoo these days, err… nevermind…!!!
That son of a bitch tests the rationale for academic freedom. Would it have been appropriate to give academic freedom to Josef Goebbels?

I truly believe in academic freedom, but why can’t that bastard simply work for a right-wing think tank, where he belongs? At least, until his well-deserved trial at Den Haag.

May he go the way of Goebbels, Nurenburg, oops, the Hague!!!

FWIW, I think “Den Haag” is Dutch for “The Hague.” But, I’m guessing that from a couple of weeks in Holland.’

In any case, I agree that’s where these bastards belong. I cannot believe the blight on this nation that these people represent.

Please think before you click ‘Submit Comment”. A violent comment can result in a ban.
Thanks everyone.

Loo Hoo. @ 190

jacqrat, I’m no techie. Shouldn’t have suggested anything!

It’s ok. I see there is a YouTube 2.0 for about 5 bucks shareware… I might have to bite the bullet.

Loo Hoo. @ 111

Here’s a song some sexual undertones, but hetero. Totally one of my favorites!

thanks for that, Loo Hoo. i hadn’t thought about Melanie Safka in a looong time. went on in to youtube and pulled out “Birthday of the Sun” which she did at Woodstock. it was seismic. a totally different kind of song from “Brand New Key”. the crowd was really bowled over by her performance ……

TexBetsy @ 113

Suzanne @ 112

year i graduated high school

first grade

already past graduate school. hell, my oldest was in fourth grade then….

newtonusr @ 185

CTuttle-
Suzanne bailed on us about an hour ago. You lost in YouTubeVille?

That I was, and rebooting a few times because it froze up on me…

CTuttle @ 196

newtonusr @ 185

CTuttle-
Suzanne bailed on us about an hour ago. You lost in YouTubeVille?

That I was, and rebooting a few times because it froze up on me…

Same. Muddy Waters broke my Safari!

Anybody still around?

What’s all this fuss about VIOLINS in posts????!!!

newtonusr @ 197

CTuttle @ 196

That I was, and rebooting a few times because it froze up on me…

Same. Muddy Waters broke my Safari!

This did me in…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDZgydwj2Y

Ah, still swimmers in the lake.

My cell phone number was formerly owned by a teenager. Every once in a while, I get text messages in the middle of the night. I have to start turning the damned thing off when I go to bed.

fahrender @ 195

Loo Hoo. @ 111

Here’s a song some sexual undertones, but hetero. Totally one of my favorites!

thanks for that, Loo Hoo. i hadn’t thought about Melanie Safka in a looong time. went on in to youtube and pulled out “Birthday of the Sun” which she did at Woodstock. it was seismic. a totally different kind of song from “Brand New Key”. the crowd was really bowled over by her performance ……

My pleasure, fahrender!

CTuttle @ 200

newtonusr @ 197

Same. Muddy Waters broke my Safari!

This did me in…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDZgydwj2Y

I’ll trade you. You’ll love this.

The year you guys speak of? I wasn’t even born. *grins* EVen though i’m now technically 30. *yawns*

Time to wander off to bed. Work again in the morning. Holding out for my three days off in a row starting on wednsday. Ah…sweet relaxation.

And i never realized those lyrics of those songs either. *giggles* The things you pick up on a late late night at the Lake.

TJ @ 201

Ah, still swimmers in the lake.

My cell phone number was formerly owned by a teenager. Every once in a while, I get text messages in the middle of the night. I have to start turning the damned thing off when I go to bed.

you mean, like … hey whutUP, homie? wht R U doin?????!!!!!!11111111

Same. Muddy Waters broke my Safari!

Scuze me, Muddy Waters?

So good! Mojo!

The Lurking Mod @ 192

Please think before you click ‘Submit Comment”. A violent comment can result in a ban.
Thanks everyone.

I agree, but I hope that the notion of a trial at the Hague is not considered “violent.” Of course, there’s a part of me that would hope for a violent sentence, but I’m philosophically opposed to the death penalty … for now … but I’m not taking any options off the table … (Only a parody of Hillary; no violence implied.)

jacqrat @ 205

TJ @ 201

Ah, still swimmers in the lake.

My cell phone number was formerly owned by a teenager. Every once in a while, I get text messages in the middle of the night. I have to start turning the damned thing off when I go to bed.

you mean, like … hey whutUP, homie? wht R U doin?????!!!!!!11111111

Yup. I usually ignore them, but when they arrive in the middle of the night, I try texting them back never to text me again. So I did that and turned off the phone.

Wigwam, I always read your posts when I’m on. Good stuff, and thoughtful analysis.

Why isn’t there an edit link tonight?

Loo Hoo. @ 209

Wigwam, I always read your posts when I’m on. Good stuff, and thoughtful analysis.

Thanks! I so need a place to rant!

Loo Hoo. @ 189

I heard a couple of years ago that Linda had gained weight and didn’t want to perform live. Since she performed in Phoenix tonight, I assume she lost the weight.

Not that I care if she’s overweight…

The trouble with Linda is for years she was marketed as a kewpie doll, and kewpie dolls don’t age well. If you can wrap your mind around the fact that she’s 61 years old and let loose of the kewpie doll image, you can probably have a quite enjoyable concert experience.

Her buddy Emmylou Harris trod a different path. When her hair went gray, she didn’t try to hide it or color it. That way, she was able to age with her fans, and her fans accepted her aging.

I suspect Linda has had a problem living up to that old marketing image.

There’s another old icon: Joan Baez. She’s still doing concert tours, too.

Bob in HI

newtonusr @ 203

CTuttle @ 200

This did me in…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDZgydwj2Y

I’ll trade you. You’ll love this.

I’ll see that and raise ya this…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xftnN0cFmM

TJ @ 210

Why isn’t there an edit link tonight?

Me, too for a bit earlier. Hard refresh solved it.

Before I head off to slumber-land, I’ll leave you with this:

Published on Friday, August 24, 2007 by FindLaw.com
Will A Dark Cloud Follow Karl Rove Back To Texas?: Congress Is Still Investigating Serious Criminal Abuses of Executive Powers
by John W. Dean

I hope Dark Clouds follow Rove for the rest of his life.

g’nightall

Bob in HI

Man, I knew everything in that Rolling Stone article already… what a stupid thing to do to read it just before bedtime… my BP is up.

Loo Hoo. @ 206

Same. Muddy Waters broke my Safari!

Scuze me, Muddy Waters?

So good! Mojo!

i saw Muddy in ‘82 in Iowa City. (where are you now, Jackie Russell?)

aliasofwestgate @ 204

The year you guys speak of? I wasn’t even born. *grins* EVen though i’m now technically 30. *yawns*

Time to wander off to bed. Work again in the morning. Holding out for my three days off in a row starting on wednsday. Ah…sweet relaxation.

And i never realized those lyrics of those songs either. *giggles* The things you pick up on a late late night at the Lake.

I don’t feel like the pupster anymore… Nite, Alias!!!

bobschacht @ 215

Before I head off to slumber-land, I’ll leave you with this:

Published on Friday, August 24, 2007 by FindLaw.com
Will A Dark Cloud Follow Karl Rove Back To Texas?: Congress Is Still Investigating Serious Criminal Abuses of Executive Powers
by John W. Dean

I hope Dark Clouds follow Rove for the rest of his life.

g’nightall

Bob in HI

Nite, Bob, and I shall join ya, Aloha Oe, Ya’ll!!!

bobschacht @ 212

Loo Hoo. @ 189

I heard a couple of years ago that Linda had gained weight and didn’t want to perform live. Since she performed in Phoenix tonight, I assume she lost the weight.

Not that I care if she’s overweight…

The trouble with Linda is for years she was marketed as a kewpie doll, and kewpie dolls don’t age well. If you can wrap your mind around the fact that she’s 61 years old and let loose of the kewpie doll image, you can probably have a quite enjoyable concert experience.

Her buddy Emmylou Harris trod a different path. When her hair went gray, she didn’t try to hide it or color it. That way, she was able to age with her fans, and her fans accepted her aging.

I suspect Linda has had a problem living up to that old marketing image.

There’s another old icon: Joan Baez. She’s still doing concert tours, too.

Bob in HI

Also, Bonnie Raitt.

Good night, everyone, and thanks Bob, for the last blast.

‘night LH and all sleepers. pleasant dreams. spakoina noch.

i’m off to work

CTuttle @ 213

newtonusr @ 203

I’ll trade you. You’ll love this.

I’ll see that and raise ya this…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xftnN0cFmM

Score Tuttle!
I leave the field of battle – bloodied, but with a blues step.

If anyone is looking for bedtime reading material, here are a couple of good links:

http://obsidianwings.blogs.com…..once-.html

http://www.latimes.com/enterta…..n?ctrack=2&cset=true

Both have to do with perspectives on Bush’s VFW speech where he invoked the spectre of Vietnam. They’re both very differnt but (IMHO) offer interesting insight.

Good morning Everybody,

Our President is of the belief that churches can do a better job at providing social services than government.

I wonder why he “believes” that.

So, in January, 2001, he established a White House office of faith-based and community initiatives.

Here is the paramount goal of this Faith-based office:

The paramount goal is compassionate results, and private and charitable community groups, including religious ones, should have the fullest opportunity permitted by law to compete on a level playing field, so long as they achieve valid public purposes, such as curbing crime, conquering addiction, strengthening families and neighborhoods, and overcoming poverty. This delivery of social services must be results oriented and should value the bedrock principles of pluralism, nondiscrimination, evenhandedness, and neutrality.

Here’s the whole Executive Order.

Thirty three states have established Faith-based Liaisaon Offices.

Andy Birkey of the Minnesota Monitor attended the White House Conference on Faith-Based Initiatives held at the Minneapolis Hyatt Regency. This is only the second state sponsored Faith-Based conference, the first was held in Arizona.

So far, I am not able to track the billions of dollars given to religious groups, never mind find out if they are, indeed, doing a better job at curbing crime, conquering addiction, strengthening families and overcoming poverty.

I do know one thing, however, religious people are drawing salaries from these faith-based billions and we deserve to know what they are doing.

Like I said:

Tracking the Money
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Because the government grants that have already been allocated under President Bush’s faith-based initiative are mostly “block grants” that are not awarded to individual organizations, it is virtually impossible to track where the money has gone and how it is being used. The program has been aggressive, with $17.5 million in grants awarded through the Department of Labor and $30 million awarded by the Department of Health and Human Services this year. But by the time the money trickles through state and local organizations and reaches faith-based groups, there is no organized mechanism set up to track it.

This information came from Religion Link an organization helping journalists cover religion with accuracy and insight. The date of the story is December of 2002.

Any bets as to if the money is being tracked now?

The Propaganda of the “Surge”

BAGHDAD — This year’s U.S. troop buildup has succeeded in bringing violence in Baghdad down from peak levels, but the death toll from sectarian attacks around the country is running nearly double the pace from a year ago.

_ Baghdad has gone from representing 76 percent of all civilian and police war-related deaths in Iraq in January to 52 percent in July, bringing it back to the same spot it was roughly a year ago.

So if the National death rate has DOUBLED and the PROPORTION of fatalities from violence has declined from 76% (when the total was half as much) to 52% (when it is twice the level in January).

Let’s just say the violent death level was 5000 in January and 10,000 in July (the numbers I use don’t really matter…but these are likely conservative figures).The important thing is that they represent a doubling of deaths in Iraq overall…a point admitted by the CIA report.

In our hypothetical…the deaths in Baghdad would have been @3800 six months ago (76% of 5000)…but increased to 5200 in July (52% of 10,000)! So that would be an INCREASE of violent civilian and police deaths of over 33% from January in BAGHDAD!

So in reality the number of civilian deaths has actually INCREASED in the area of the “surge’s success” in Baghdad.

However, Brig. Gen. Richard Sherlock, deputy director for operational planning for the Pentagon’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, said violence in Iraq “has continued to decline and is at the lowest level since June 2006.”

Smell the Bulldada!

So, the paramount goal of these billions of dollars of taxpayers money is “compassionate results”.

Any way of measuring just how compassionate the results are?

229??

yellowdog jim @ 229

229??

just missed the zed.

yellowdog jim @ 230

yellowdog jim @ 229

229??

just missed the zed.

i LOVE the smell of ZED in the morning.

yellowdog jim @ 231

yellowdog jim @ 230

just missed the zed.

i LOVE the smell of ZED in the morning.

and a hearty Good Morning to our sweet moderators, whereever you are!!

“wherever”

Yellowdog, We’re often on our own in the early AM. Nice job on the 230.

Another question I have:

Is faith the only qualification needed to deliver these social services?

Has FAITH replaced EDUCATION in the fields of crime, addiction, family counseling and reducing poverty?

Good morning!

What’s up?

Mornin’ all! I was hoping all those thunderstorms we had here last night would bring in drier air. No such luck.

Yep, total sauna down here in Virginia as well.

Little cooler in Georgia, off to the bakery with the bohdisattvea!

raven @ 240

Little cooler in Georgia, off to the bakery with the bohdisattvea!

is this like carrying coals to newcastle?

Good morning! It does seem like it’s a tad cooler here in GA this morning. The low to mid ninety’s is a welcome relief compared to what we have been having.

Probably been posted before, but this is just a little too much:

Maybe Trading Up Soon at Justice

just got back:
been upstairs reading earlier comments.
hey to boston 1775

morning to all y’all

twolf1 @ 243

Probably been posted before, but this is just a little too much:

Maybe Trading Up Soon at Justice

so
chertoff (fuck up)
for
abu gonzo (malicious enabler)
?
hmmm.

these senate hearings for chertoff’s nomination to AG could be fun.
IF it happens.

raven @ 240

Little cooler in Georgia, off to the bakery with the bohdisattvea!

i am interested in your Bodhisattva(s?)

i like to consider myself a buddhist.

Waccamaw @ 68

epu’d -

Anyone else (other than TexBetsy) read the Rolling Stone article on contracting in Iraq?

http://www.rollingstone.com/po…..ndle/print

W edit:

Nothing the Lake hasn’t heard about but, collectively, very damning. Anybody know how wide a readership Rolling Stone gets?

this is my meager attempt to repair this worthy link to the Rolling Stone article entitled:
The Great Iraq Swindle

Boston1775 @ 234

Yellowdog, Nice job on the 230.

well, i NAILED #229, man!!

(and i completely edited your comment there, too.)

hunh??
we got a new post upstairs or something?

wifey says i got to go, so i got to go.
bye!

Boy! You guys really stay up late!

Good morning, pups. Thomas Friedman is alone behind the NYT firewall today, writing from Doha, Qatar, and gives us a piece titled “Swift-Boated by Bin Laden.”

http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/

The coffee and tea are ready for the late risers (I enjoy sleeping in on Sunday!) and I’ve got banana and pecan pancakes to share. Have a great day.

Facebook surfers cost their bosses billions

Marion in Savannah @ 252

Good morning, pups. Thomas Friedman is alone behind the NYT firewall today, writing from Doha, Qatar, and gives us a piece titled “Swift-Boated by Bin Laden.”

http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/

The coffee and tea are ready for the late risers (I enjoy sleeping in on Sunday!) and I’ve got banana and pecan pancakes to share. Have a great day.

Thanks Marion.

In the immortal words of Bugs Bunny, “What a maroon!”.

Morning!

Glenn Greenwald on Book TV this morning.

A Tragic Legacy: How a Good vs. Evil Mentality Destroyed the Bush Presidency
Author: Glenn Greenwald 9:30 am CSPAN-2

New thread
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..7/#respond

Jimmy Carter’s take on faith-based money:

But the Baptist Sunday School teacher saved some of his harshest criticism for Bush’s “faithbased” agenda.

Citing an article in The New York Times, Carter said hundreds of millions of dollars in federal earmarks are now going to fund religious institutions.

“Individual churches and religious seminaries and other strictly religious organizations have their own lobbyists now in Washington to make sure they get their share of taxpayers’ funds. And, as you know, the policy from the White House has been to allocate funds to religious institutions, even those that channel those funds exclusively to their own particular group of believers in a particular religion. Those things in my opinion are quite disturbing,” Carter said.

“As a traditional Baptist, I’ve always believed in separation of church and state and honored that premise when I was president, and so have all other presidents, I might say, except this one.”

Here’s the whole story.

Where are the OVERSIGHT HEARINGS?

Loo Hoo. @ 25

Never understood the words/meaning.

I now know the lyrics as well as the artist/group!

dez