Tanbark @ 79

SanderO: “Until every barstool is broken and there is blood all over the place…”

We’re sho’ nuff gettin’ there.

GeorgeSimian: That about the draft is a good question. I likes it. :o)

How about we ask ALL the candidates; if they will call for re-instating the draft, if they’re elected?

Let’s talk about seeing some fatcats sons and daughters sweating the bounce of the ping-pong balls. :o)

Which reminds me: Mitt Romney has FIVE strapping, military-age sons who’ve never pulled a day in the military. One of them even has a blogsite where he’s going after Hillary for wanting to leave Iraq. I’m not at all sure she really does, or will, but hearing this bullshit from a rich, entitled, little 101st Fighting Keyboarder, needs to be snarked at.

I was in the last lottery and I really did sweat when those ping pong balls started popping. Got # 203 and still wished it were higher.

#9 here, actually went in for my induction physical…which was…irony upon irony…cancelled and rescheduled due to the death the day before of LBJ. All government offices (including induction centers) were closed. By the time the SSS got around to making a new date Nixon had ended the draft. Likely wouldn’t have gone to VietNam if I had been drafted since only a handful in that last round were actually deployed.

You are confusing the Maliki government with the greater Shiite community. That is a typical bushCo mistake.

NO government can gain and keep the support of the Shiites by cutting deals with us. Of course, the same is also true of the Sunnis, but THEY are not in the running to furnish a replacement for Maliki, if bush is stupid enough to sign off on a coup against him.

The notion that there is a monolithic “Islamic” juggernaut taking over Iraq is the purest neo-con nonsense. It’s straight out of the Knesset. The Shiites are every bit as fragmented as are the Sunnis, and there is about as much intramural fighting going on among them.

To go with that about bush having the ability to start bringing the troops home tomorrow, with no compromises, no vote-trading, no deals necessary, let me ask you this:

Are you a contributor to AIPAC? :o)

Maliki’s government is hiding out in the green zone like a rat in a cupboard.

If you’re so antiwar, why were you putting screeds about the shitty things that are going on in Iraq, without a word about bush and the warpimps being responsible for them.

Instead, you keep complaining how well the “Islamists” are doing, without saying anything about WHY they’re “enjoying success”.

So. Do you think that bush should make that pen-stroke tomorrow morning, and start bringing home the troops, instanter?

It’s not a tough question. Any good antiwar person should be able to answer it. :o)

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Does anyone know why Hillary Clinton and Karl Levin felt the need to get out in front of the Maliki ouster? I frankly don’t understand it.

Smells like triangulation, but I don’t know what they get in the deal.

TexBetsy @ 120

Bush has broken the military.

Name me one thing he HASN’T broken…

I’ll bet he’s never broken par on a golf course!

There is a Florida Reserve outfit being posted to DC for A SOLID YEAR in something called Operation Noble Eagle.

… The unit is trained in ground-to-air defense systems.

You’d think a place like DC would have enough regulars doing that job. What do they need with 1 yrs worth of reservists?

Must be a young Bush they’re protecting from real service.

No chance of success?

Southern Iraq has been under Sharia law since the fall of Saddam Hussein and the Kurds have become independent and the Iraqi government has NO chance of success?

What we see is what the anti-Saddamist opposition groups were working for since the 1980s if not longer and you think there is no chance for sucess?

Your POV is purely American.

How can you suggest that there is a failure when the fact of the matter is that they do not want to enact the US’ directives?

Why do you not judge the success or failure of the Iraqis by their standards and wants?

We?

Fuc that!

We???

I have never taken a sip and have been a staunch critic of the war from day one.

You must have been the one guzzling.

Tanbark: And you post this BS,

What BS?

Pls point it out. What have I written that is BS? You failed to point out the BS.

Tanbark: WITHOUT mentioning that george bush and his “Islamist” freakers-out like you, have turned Iraq into a complete hellhole, and as a direct result of the invasion, hundreds of thousands of people who had jackshit to DO with 9-11, have died, and another million-odd have been turned into refugees.

I am not “Islamist” freaker-outer.

The US should form a bond with Iran.

The hellhole of Iraq is at the center of my mind: It is beyond horrible that in direct but inadvertent response to the horrific attacks of 9/11, Bush inadvertently helped father a burgeoning Shiite fundamentalist republic which will never be a loyal ally at the cost of countless oceans of blood and treasure.

To top things off, Bush has been training and arming men no doubt the US will fight against.

Nothing could be worse.

Tanbark: BTW, let me ask you, straight-up: george bush can start bringing home the troops with the stroke of a pen, this afternoon. Do you think he should do that? :o)

The US is fuct and has been fuct the moment it unleashed al-Dawa and the SCIRI.

In any case, I do not think that oceans of blood and treasure should be spilled.

I’m all a-tingle at this proclamation (h/t to twolf1 for the link): George Bush has declared September 17 – 23, 2007 to be Constitution Week wherein he encourages “Federal, State, and local officials, as well as leaders of civic, social, and educational organizations, to conduct ceremonies and programs that celebrate our Constitution and reaffirm our rights and responsibilities as citizens of our great Nation.”

Perfect week to start an impeachment to celebrate our Constitution!