talkin’ back atcha

Oh, I can’t watch him. I literally can’t look at him. I can barely even read a transcript of what he’s said. I get so infuriated.

Very cool. Sending to all my friends …. Merci Jane.

pb at 2

I can barely even read a transcript of what he’s said.

Do you realize what you just said? 707!?!

Adie @ 4

pb at 2

I can barely even read a transcript of what he’s said.

Do you realize what you just said? 707!?!

Yeah, have you ever tried to follow his syntax, mangled words, and utterly corrupt lines of thought? :-)

Heh. I do like the double meaning there, though, now that you point it out…

peanutbutter @ 2

Oh, I can’t watch him. I literally can’t look at him. I can barely even read a transcript of what he’s said. I get so infuriated.

I can watch with the sound off. Briefly.

peanutbutter @ 2

Oh, I can’t watch him. I literally can’t look at him. I can barely even read a transcript of what he’s said. I get so infuriated.

Well, neither can he.

Hey Jane!

I can just see our prez pulling wings off flies as a younger boy.

Hi egregious!

Kobe’s a bit full of himself after his last post.

yep, I gotta agree, it is a visceral, down in my bones feeling.
The way the little bastard swaggers around with that fucking smirk.
I will spare the Mods with what I’d like to do with that smirk.

egregious @ 7

peanutbutter @ 2

Oh, I can’t watch him. I literally can’t look at him. I can barely even read a transcript of what he’s said. I get so infuriated.

Well, neither can he.

Hey Jane!

baddaboom!

President George “Blow Up Frogs” Bush is an inspiration to psychos world-wide.

Well Bush does have something to look forward to. There are going to be more hangings as a result of the Iraqi government’s kangaroo court system.

Jane Hamsher @ 9

Hi egregious!

Kobe’s a bit full of himself after his last post.

He did good, give him a treat!

More Back Talk and American die..from Michael McConnell, the guy the Dems love so much in August. Just another fascist sack of shit.

With a heavy heart, Director of National Intelligence Michael McConnell told a Texas newspaper last week that due to the public debate over revising the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, Americans will die.

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003976.php

16?

And Pelosi ans Reid continue to wink at each fresh crime and abuse of power (after some scripted “outrage,” of course).

The enablers may be even worse than the criminal because it is they who make him possible and it is they who allow him to continue to thrive and wreak his death and destruction, unchecked, unchallenged and unabated.

Steve-AR @ 15

More Back Talk and American die..from Michael McConnell, the guy the Dems love so much in August. Just another fascist sack of shit.

With a heavy heart, Director of National Intelligence Michael McConnell told a Texas newspaper last week that due to the public debate over revising the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, Americans will die.

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003976.php

and this is the guy the dems in congress trusted?

WTF?!!?

EPU’d from below: I asked whether anyone knew if there’s truth to the story that a young George Bush used to blow up frogs?

Oklahoma kiddo @ 8

I can just see our prez pulling wings off flies as a younger boy.

Nah, that’s just for p*****S..real men jam a firecracker down a frogs throat, light the fuse and threw the frog in the air.

Our Beloved Preznit’s understanding of Duty, Honor, Country was proven during his desertion from the TANG. His understanding of the philosophical teachings of his allegedly “favorite” philosopher hold the same place in his conscience as his understanding of the Constitution, the well-being of his fellow Americans and the standing (or lack thereof) of our Nation in the global community.

OTOH, he will have the best legacy money can buy, courtesy of those he has enriched via the War on Terra and the invasion of Mess O’Potamia.

OT

For music lovers:

I’ve got playing a 1951 vinyl record of Joseph Szigeti and Joseph Levine performing Schubert’s ‘Fantasia for Violin and Piano’.

A Technics turntable and a Sherwood tube amp.

Makes one forget about Bush.

Jane Hamsher @ 9

Hi egregious!

Kobe’s a bit full of himself after his last post.

He’s entitled – he wrote it so well, and provoked quite a thoughtful (not to mention spirited) discussion!

Nemo @ 19

EPU’d from below: I asked whether anyone knew if there’s truth to the story that a young George Bush used to blow up frogs?

MIDLAND, Texas ANIMAL PEOPLE, July/August 2000

An alert for American voters and humane educators everywhere appeared on May 21 in the 61st through 64th paragraphs of a 76-paragraph NEW YORK TIMES feature on the childhood of Republican candidate for U.S. president George W. Bush — if anyone noticed.

«One of the local rituals for children,» reported Nicholas D. Kristof of Life in Midland, Texas, when George W. was a boy, «were meetings with cookies and milk at the home of a nice old lady who represented the SPCA. The cookies were digested more thoroughly than the teachings.»

«`We were terrible to animals,’ recalled [Bush pal Terry] Throckmorton, laughing. A dip behind the Bush borne turned into a small lake after a good rain, and thousands of frogs would come out. `Everybody would get BB guns and shoot them,’ Throckmorton said. `Or we’d put firecrackers in the frogs and throw them and blow them up.’»

Kristof made plain that «we» explicitly included George W. Bush, and that George W., the Safari Club International «Governor of the Year» in 1999 for his support of trophy hunting, was the leader among the boys who did it.

http://www.all-creatures.org/aip/nl-3nov2000-frogs.html

Dunno about frogs, but there were pretty clear reports in ‘04 that he was a real bully in prep school.. lording it over those he thought his lessers.. He carried the same model of behavior into college, even organizing intimidation of professors. …interesting, because the bullies of my childhood never amounted to much. How such a man could conceivably become president I have no idea…

Steve-AR @ 15

More Back Talk and American die..from Michael McConnell, the guy the Dems love so much in August. Just another fascist sack of shit.

With a heavy heart, Director of National Intelligence Michael McConnell told a Texas newspaper last week that due to the public debate over revising the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, Americans will die.

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003976.php

Another installment in the serial, “Be Very Afraid.”
Never thought he was on our side. Even a stopped clock…you know the rest.

could he be put in a cage and studied?

might be fruitful. have im repeat the same lil’ speeeeesh evurdayy & smirk for kibbles for about a decade or so 24/7

whut happens to mangled syntax ‘n corrupticated empty meaningable babble when it turns in on itself; rearrange all the pieces parts at random & see if there’s any change; or, don’t, & see if it takes any notice.

nah! it’s already been done. we’re living with the result, egad. *sigh*

Very effective video, Jane. Thanks.

To quote Jane, “Our national honor has, in fact, been compromised by George Bush’s lust for torture.”

There are few statements that can sum up the last seven years. The above is one of those. Americans should hang their heads in shame at what we have become under George W. Bush and his handlers’ watch.

-S

I love the sheep with the ear tags with Reid and Pelosi’s names on it. An American Gothic for our times.

What’s the topic?..I can’t watch the video.

Nemo @ 19

EPU’d from below: I asked whether anyone knew if there’s truth to the story that a young George Bush used to blow up frogs?

There may be other sources, but a childhood friend was quoted in the NYTimes about it in 2000. (And not one who was trying to “get” Bush during the campaign, either, it’s quoted as an amusing childhood memory.)

Blub @ 25

Dunno about frogs, but there were pretty clear reports in ‘04 that he was a real bully in prep school.. lording it over those he thought his lessers.. He carried the same model of behavior into college, even organizing intimidation of professors. …interesting, because the bullies of my childhood never amounted to much. How such a man could conceivably become president I have no idea…

He hasn’t amounted to much – presidency notwithstanding.

Thanks, Steve-AR. I know I had heard that about Bush — sick puppy!

Dog’gone it Kobe. Nice post. I couldn’t help but think of the Republican who practised surjery on dogs (I can’t think of his name)

This BackTalk guy is kinda cute. I remember the last video he was wearing a nice little hat with attitude. He makes sense and his background music has a beat and I can dance to it!

BTW, peanutbutter, I can’t stand to listen to Bush lie to me anymore either. The punk.

Blub @ 25

How such a man could conceivably become president I have no idea…

The family business.

ccmask @ 34

Dog’gone it Kobe. Nice post. I couldn’t help but think of the Republican who practised surjery on dogs (I can’t think of his name)

Frisky Bill Frist!

Dennis Hassert is leaving his congressional office early and maybe the Dems can pick up his Illinois seat when the special election is called. Source: kos.

woo hoo!

I wanna put on a pair of these whenever I hear that the Shrub and his lackeys are going to be speaking

ccmask @ 34

Dog’gone it Kobe. Nice post. I couldn’t help but think of the Republican who practised surjery on dogs (I can’t think of his name)

frist

Nemo @ 33

Thanks, Steve-AR. I know I had heard that about Bush — sick puppy!

As a governor he could kill hundreds now he can kill millions..a psychopath’s dream come true.

Listening to Bush actually makes me start to become ill. And yet I have friends and relatives who still defend the jerk!!

These are reasonably intelligent and certainly good people. How can this still be happening? What should I be telling them? I have tried every technique I can think of and some of them still stand by “their President”.

Steve-AR @ 30

What’s the topic?..I can’t watch the video.

Basically that we should be more bothered by Bush’s police state than terrorist threat. Even a Reaganite wants to impeach Bushtard.

I stopped listening to Bush in 2004 after the election. I wanted to watch the debates so I forced myself to watch. Now I just read about what he says.

Steve at 40

Many in the USA believe Bush cares about ordinary Americans.

He doesn’t. I mean this seriously.

Former Fed @ 42

Listening to Bush actually makes me start to become ill. And yet I have friends and relatives who still defend the jerk!!

These are reasonably intelligent and certainly good people. How can this still be happening? What should I be telling them? I have tried every technique I can think of and some of them still stand by “their President”.

I know. I feel your pain. Just remember (about your friends) You didn’t cause it. You can’t control it. You can’t cure it.

Former Fed @ 41

Listening to Bush actually makes me start to become ill. And yet I have friends and relatives who still defend the jerk!!

These are reasonably intelligent and certainly good people. How can this still be happening? What should I be telling them? I have tried every technique I can think of and some of them still stand by “their President”.

Read this and it might give you an idea or two.

The dominant theme from now on, I’d guess, ought to be: “The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.”

Steve-AR @ 15

More Back Talk and American die..from Michael McConnell, the guy the Dems love so much in August. Just another fascist sack of shit.

With a heavy heart, Director of National Intelligence Michael McConnell told a Texas newspaper last week that due to the public debate over revising the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, Americans will die.

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003976.php

I’ll guarantee ya more Americans were imperiled by Plame’s outing than the Debate on FISA ever will…!!!

Kobe is demanding a massage now.

AZ Matt @ 37

ccmask @ 34

Dog’gone it Kobe. Nice post. I couldn’t help but think of the Republican who practised surjery on dogs (I can’t think of his name)

Frisky Bill Frist!

How in the heck did I forget his name. Thanks

Jane Hamsher @ 49

Kobe is demanding a massage now.

The Bohdi keeps putting the ball on the laptop!

Via DKos, old man Fred ain’t too Foxy;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr9oujGR7BY

Jane Hamsher @ 49

Kobe is demanding a massage now.

And a pumpkin loaf?

Kobe, Lucy1775, a black with tan marks cocker spaniel age 3, has been so busy barking at the painters ALL day that all she can do is say hell-o.

She did say between barks that Ari Fleisher is so flexible he can lick his own *****.

Former Fed @ 42

Listening to Bush actually makes me start to become ill. And yet I have friends and relatives who still defend the jerk!!

These are reasonably intelligent and certainly good people. How can this still be happening? What should I be telling them? I have tried every technique I can think of and some of them still stand by “their President”.

Cognitive dissonance keeps many, many people from seeing what’s right in front of them.

Is there any way we can be sure that all the members of the committees due to hear testimony from Petraeus can receive copies of Sargeants’ op-ed?

Would faxing copies of the op-ed to committee members of both parties be an effective action?

jayackroyd @ 56

Is there any way we can be sure that all the members of the committees due to hear testimony from Petraeus can receive copies of Sargeants’ op-ed?

Would faxing copies of the op-ed to committee members of both parties be an effective action?

Their staffers wouldn’t be earning their pay if the op-ed isn’t in their members’ folders with material for the hearings.

As far as GOP members go, I think the talking points call for bringing these guys up on Article 15 or 32 charges for even daring to speak out outside the chain of command.

Former Fed @ 42

Listening to Bush actually makes me start to become ill. And yet I have friends and relatives who still defend the jerk!!

These are reasonably intelligent and certainly good people. How can this still be happening? What should I be telling them? I have tried every technique I can think of and some of them still stand by “their President”.

I go through the same thing. Can we talk?

Well.. I think one needs to push shrub’s achievement on torture in the context of his broader achievements in policy in general:
- domestic policy – nada. we don’t do that anymore.
- foreign policy -
*Holy Land – an Israeli internal affair
*Middle East – armaggeddon
*South America – drove the whole continent into the hands of leftwing populists
*East Asia & Africa – ceded to China; China not grateful
*Central Asia – ceded to China & Russia; neither grateful
*South Asia – thought he made a few friends in India by abrogating the NPT; India not grateful
*Europe – man on the street now prefers OBL
*Canada – getting chilly over our arctic land grab
*Mexico – barely on speaking terms

In that context of such mighty achievements, what’s a few smashed and broken bodies between friends? :P

moeman @ 52

Via DKos, old man Fred ain’t too Foxy;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr9oujGR7BY

I confess that I just don’t see the appeal of Fred Thompson. And I really can’t figure out what he’s doing. The best I can figure is that he’s angling for a Veep nod.

CT at 47

I know a couple. Expecting a baby.

Both lawyers.

Both hate bush.

They don’t read here. They don’t know what you and others say here.

They are focused on their lives.

They believe that the smart people will take care of things.

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) — Nightmarish political realities in Baghdad are prompting American officials to curb their vision for democracy in Iraq. Instead, the officials now say they are willing to settle for a government that functions and can bring security.

Bush

Two days after top Senate Democrats called for Maliki’s removal, Bush said, “It is not up to the politicians in Washington, D.C., to say whether he will remain in his job.” That, Bush added, is up to the Iraqi people, “who live in a democracy, not a dictatorship

Did you all see the picture of the little boy who was set on fire? Heartbreaking. I hate this fucking war.

Hastert’s leaving?

Why are all the crooks leaving the building

Boston1775 @ 54

Kobe, Lucy1775, a black with tan marks cocker spaniel age 3, has been so busy barking at the painters ALL day that all she can do is say hell-o.

She did say between barks that Ari Fleisher is so flexible he can lick his own *****.

Aw, a black and tan, Raven was black. Check out these wonderful Cocker movies.

raven @ 62

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) — Nightmarish political realities in Baghdad are prompting American officials to curb their vision for democracy in Iraq. Instead, the officials now say they are willing to settle for a government that functions and can bring security.

I see. Perhaps something similar to the previous government would be suitable?

Marion Blakey, the supremely unqualified FAA adminstrator is deserting too. To become a lobbyist…what a shocker, huh?

raven @ 65

Boston1775 @ 54

Kobe, Lucy1775, a black with tan marks cocker spaniel age 3, has been so busy barking at the painters ALL day that all she can do is say hell-o.

She did say between barks that Ari Fleisher is so flexible he can lick his own *****.

Aw, a black and tan, Raven was black. Check out these wonderful Cocker movies.

When Jimmy Met Misty is great but it still makes me tear up.

Jane Hamsher @ 64

Hastert’s leaving?

Why are all the crooks leaving the building

I’m wondering if there’s a scandal coming down the pipe, or if he’s just tired of seeing Nancy doing his old job.

do-si-do @ 43

Steve-AR @ 30

What’s the topic?..I can’t watch the video.

Basically that we should be more bothered by Bush’s police state than terrorist threat. Even a Reaganite wants to impeach Bushtard.

Re-post..Police state? This is the ideal America as seen by FSM one of Barbara Comstock’s gigs.

FSM list of board advisors:
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/about_board.php

From Digby:

Author: Philip Atkinson
Source: The Family Security Foundation, Inc.
Date: August 3, 2007

While democratic government is better than dictatorships and theocracies, it has its pitfalls. FSM Contributing Editor Philip Atkinson describes some of the difficulties facing President Bush today.
(snip)
President Bush can fail in his duty to himself, his country, and his God, by becoming “ex-president” Bush or he can become “President-for-Life” Bush: the conqueror of Iraq, who brings sense to the Congress and sanity to the Supreme Court. Then who would be able to stop Bush from emulating Augustus Caesar and becoming ruler of the world? For only an America united under one ruler has the power to save humanity from the threat of a new Dark Age wrought by terrorists armed with nuclear weapons.

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com…..tting.html

Frank Gafney and Monica Crowley are also on the board of this group.

Jo Fish @ 67

Marion Blakey, the supremely unqualified FAA adminstrator is deserting too. To become a lobbyist…what a shocker, huh?

Who would hire a Republican lobbyist right now?

Frank Probst @ 68

Jane Hamsher @ 64

Hastert’s leaving?

Why are all the crooks leaving the building

I’m wondering if there’s a scandal coming down the pipe, or if he’s just tired of seeing Nancy doing his old job.

Or, without the speaker’s job, his income has taken a hit….

Jane@64

Linky to Hastert leaving congress in a few months -November 2007:

http://www.dailykos.com/

Let me shake things up:

A war not worth winning is a war not worth winning.

A war crime should not be supported by the American people.

Jonathan @ 61

CT at 47

I know a couple. Expecting a baby.

Both lawyers.

Both hate bush.

They don’t read here. They don’t know what you and others say here.

They are focused on their lives.

They believe that the smart people will take care of things.

Yes, that was the plan. Trash the economy, make both parents go to work, stress everyone out so taht they would be too distracted to notice their standard of living slowly going down the shitter.

Once you have people worried about their economic well-being it’s pretty friggin simple to undermine the rule of law becuase there are just so many scapegoats for them to target for their insecurity-triggered rage: the minorities who are taking their jobs, the neighbors who have better toys, the liberals with their elitist views on things, the government that takes their taxes without doing anything for them, the local government that takes more of their taxes because the federal govt is shrinking thier share of the pie to enrich the military-industrial complex, ad infinitum.

This started back in the 70s when directed attacks began on unions and coporations stared moving from the older industrial areas to newer pastures where they could play communities off against each other for the privilege of opening their plants there.

It hit a high point when even union workers cheered when good old Ronnie Raygun fired the PATCO workers and opened the door to banking reform by deregulating the savings and loans at the same time opening the Treasury to the usual suspects from Texas (two Bush boys were implicated in the S&L scandal; one paid a fine, the other helped steal the 2000 election).

Now no one fuckin pays attention except those of us who used to be called paranoid.

Now we’re called informed.

Reminds me of a Louis Grizzard story about Bubba and Earl at a Gerogia Football Game.

Bubba and Earl were at a Gerogia football game and at halftime the Georgia mascot, a bulldog named Uga, walked out to the center of the field, sat down, and started to lick himself. Earl said “Bubba, I wish I could do that.” Bubba said “Earl, that dog would bite you.”

I have a friend who listens to BO’R. She, too, is reasonably intelligent. She says that she knows he’s a fool and lies but she listens to him for entertainment. Then, every now and then something slips out that lets me know that he’s getting to her. Mention Edwards name and she talks about his mansion;Pelosi, she’s a left-winger;and Howard Dean, she talks about the scream. While she may realize that Bush is a disaster, she is still influenced by FoxNews. And, it makes me crazy.

McConnell shoots his mouth off:

_ McConnell confirmed for the first time that the private sector assisted with President Bush’s warrantless surveillance program. AT&T, Verizon and other telecommunications companies are being sued for their cooperation. “Now if you play out the suits at the value they’re claimed, it would bankrupt these companies,” McConnell said, arguing that they deserve immunity for their help.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wi…..-opens-up/

Jo Fish @ 67

Marion Blakey, the supremely unqualified FAA adminstrator is deserting too. To become a lobbyist…what a shocker, huh?

I’m having trouble figuring out who’s going to replace all of these people who are now jumping ship. No one with any sense would’ve taken a job with the Bush administration two years ago, much less today. And Poppy has called in most of his markers already. Who’s going to mismanage the government for the next year?

Former Fed @ 42

Listening to Bush actually makes me start to become ill. And yet I have friends and relatives who still defend the jerk!!

These are reasonably intelligent and certainly good people. How can this still be happening? What should I be telling them? I have tried every technique I can think of and some of them still stand by “their President”.

I hear this, and Digby’s wonderful quote comes to mind when talking about chimps approval rating, paraphrasing “that’s a shit load of fucking morons”. And yet when those fucking morons are people who are otherwise relatively pleasant and kind and well intentioned, WTF?

James,

2000. Upper eastside NYC.

“Yes, I understand. But the smart people get it.”

The response to Bush’s address to the VFW today as presented on NPR inspires this request.
Would someone please tell the assholes in the administration, conservative think tanks, the Congress, and the media that the lesson of Viet Nam is the same lesson as our own American Revolution. The involvement of 15 Saudis in the events of 9.11 might have reminded us of this lesson as well:

One does not disenfranchise a people in their own land without inviting instructive consequence to one’s self in one’s own land.

In other words, One does not disenfranchise a people in their own land without it coming back to bite you in the ass!

Frank Probst @ 60

moeman @ 52

Via DKos, old man Fred ain’t too Foxy;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr9oujGR7BY

I confess that I just don’t see the appeal of Fred Thompson. And I really can’t figure out what he’s doing. The best I can figure is that he’s angling for a Veep nod.

I think he just likes the attention.

Montag @ 47

Thanks for the reference. The effect of the “mortality exercises” is fascinating. And I live in Tucson and graduated from U of AZ. I am going to try and get in touch with Prof. Greenberg.

Former Fed @ 84

Montag @ 47

Thanks for the reference. The effect of the “mortality exercises” is fascinating. And I live in Tucson and graduated from U of AZ. I am going to try and get in touch with Prof. Greenberg.

Ah, takes me back to the days of the Dusty Chaps!

How old is Fred, really? I know this is under national security but someone must have inside information.

After reading McConnell’s statement about the tele-coms…he is right..the company and stock holders shouldn’t be penalized..it’s the CEOs the Vps and the board members who should be indicted, tried and sent to prison under the Federal guidelines for their felonies. With the number of violations of law, each person would receive 100 plus years in prison..each year well deserved.

Steve-AR @ 70

The Family Security Foundation.

haha.. just looked at their website. A laugh a second.. almost as much fun as reading Pammy’s website! ‘and just look at all those nice shiny photos of scared, defiant waspy people.

I guess we know now who’s going to be getting those Sr Fellow positions at the Center for Shrubstudies thinktank, when its up and running.

Maybe if it’s attention that Fredo wants, he can run with Zsa Zsa Gabor’s husband. They can announce from the graveyard where Anna Nicole Smith is buried, and set up their campaign HQ next to Lindsay Lohan’s house.

With free sandwiches, it would be press stenographer’s dream campaign.

Steve-AR @ 15

More Back Talk and American die..from Michael McConnell, the guy the Dems love so much in August. Just another fascist sack of shit.

With a heavy heart, Director of National Intelligence Michael McConnell told a Texas newspaper last week that due to the public debate over revising the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, Americans will die.

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003976.php

Mike McConnell can bite me. Next he’ll be bemoaning the demise of the Spanish Inquisition, and the fact that you can’t get a half decent rack even on eBay.

They don’t read here. They don’t know what you and others say here.

They are focused on their lives.

They believe that the smart people will take care of things.

Right. And there’s a lot of these folks around. “I can’t worry about the big picture, I’m too busy trying to deal with issues on my plate”

And they’re right. It’s a rigged system – we’re meant to be busy, distracted, in debt, and too exhausted to pay any attention.

And the subprime fiasco and probable stock market melt down? How convenient. The middle class will tumble into near poverty, and you’ll have a whole crapload of potential recruits for our never ending war.

Former Fed @ 42

Listening to Bush actually makes me start to become ill. And yet I have friends and relatives who still defend the jerk!!

These are reasonably intelligent and certainly good people. How can this still be happening? What should I be telling them? I have tried every technique I can think of and some of them still stand by “their President”.

My theory is that we’ve reached his cult level. If they’re still with him after all this, they’d be his greatest defenders if he nuked Liechtenstein to build Tony Blair a personal resort, spa and c*si*o.

QuakerGirl @ 86

How old is Fred, really? I know this is under national security but someone must have inside information.

Years ago one of my Profs said: “Age is not the time from the beginning but the proximity to the end”. Fred Thompson is very old.

Today’s news:

Bush speech attacks public for not supporting war.

Rightwing ads attack Reps for not supporting war.

Is it possible that Rove got canned for not wanting to rev up the Republican fog machine on the war?

Care to comment, Mr. Cheney?

raven @ 65

Boston1775 @ 54

Kobe, Lucy1775, a black with tan marks cocker spaniel age 3, has been so busy barking at the painters ALL day that all she can do is say hell-o.

She did say between barks that Ari Fleisher is so flexible he can lick his own *****.

Aw, a black and tan, Raven was black. Check out these wonderful Cocker movies.

You ole softy, raven. Thanks for those videos. We share a special happiness.
I’m still trying to figure out how Lucy knew about Ari Fleishman’s flexibility. It must be hard to get your head all the way down there.

Boston1775 @ 94

raven @ 65

Aw, a black and tan, Raven was black. Check out these wonderful Cocker movies.

You ole softy, raven. Thanks for those videos. We share a special happiness.
I’m still trying to figure out how Lucy knew about the Ari Fleishman’s flexibility. It must be hard to get your head all the way down there.

Yoga

Raven,

I’ve read here those who criticize Bush for failing to succeed in Iraq.

I think, what would be the situation if the Iraqis had thrown flowers around the troops necks?

We’d be in some other war, with the support of the American people.

I think Americans are lucky that GWB has not succeeded in Iraq.

Call me a traitor. I’m not. I’m against war crimes.

Steve-AR @ 87

After reading McConnell’s statement about the tele-coms…he is right..the company and stock holders shouldn’t be penalized..it’s the CEOs the Vps and the board members who should be indicted, tried and sent to prison under the Federal guidelines for their felonies. With the number of violations of law, each person would receive 100 plus years in prison..each year well deserved.

Stockholders are ultimately responsible for the governance of the corporations in which they invest. Corporations are legal persons and as such should be subject to the sanctions of the law. By not penalizing stockholders, corporations, and yes, corporate officers, we are basically saying that what they did was OK and that there is no downside to illegality.

My pups are hereBoston1775 @ 94

raven @ 65

Aw, a black and tan, Raven was black. Check out these wonderful Cocker movies.

You ole softy, raven. Thanks for those videos. We share a special happiness.
I’m still trying to figure out how Lucy knew about the Ari Fleishman’s flexibility. It must be hard to get your head all the way down there.

Yoga

Steve-AR @ 93

QuakerGirl @ 86

How old is Fred, really? I know this is under national security but someone must have inside information.

Years ago one of my Profs said: “Age is not the time from the beginning but the proximity to the end”. Fred Thompson is very old.

Thompson is 65 years old. I don’t know where his nickname “Methusaleh’s older brother” came from.

What I want to know is how Pelosi lives with the smirk on his face every time he describes how he “once again” showed congress what he thought of them.

I can’t watch it let alone listen to that crap that passes for speech. Forget articulate.

Boston1775 @ 94

You ole softy, raven. Thanks for those videos. We share a special happiness.
I’m still trying to figure out how Lucy knew about the Ari Fleishman’s flexibility. It must be hard to get your head all the way down there.

Yoga

raven @ 99

My pups are here

As Atrios might suggest, Joe Klein is sounding mighty shrill;

http://time-blog.com/swampland…..peech.html

Read it and weep (for America).

I just have to wonder, do we have to wait for chimpy mcflight suit to say the war is over and then it is finally over? CNN just really pissed me off with their coverage of him and the whole vietnam/war thing. I can’t even watch CNN anymore. JEEZ.

sheilankc @ 104

I just have to wonder, do we have to wait for chimpy mcflight suit to say the war is over and then it is finally over? CNN just really pissed me off with their coverage of him and the whole vietnam/war thing. I can’t even watch CNN anymore. JEEZ.

He’ll be nowhere to be found when this shit is over.

karnak12 says

August 22nd, 2007 at 3:53 pm

Speech? The speeches we hear on C-SPAN, is there no standard with these people anymore. Speech is to the masses, or whoever the hell they think they are speaking to, like spellcheck is to teenagers.

Frank Probst @ 79

Jo Fish @ 67

Marion Blakey, the supremely unqualified FAA adminstrator is deserting too. To become a lobbyist…what a shocker, huh?

I’m having trouble figuring out who’s going to replace all of these people who are now jumping ship. No one with any sense would’ve taken a job with the Bush administration two years ago, much less today. And Poppy has called in most of his markers already. Who’s going to mismanage the government for the next year?

If we’re real lucky (which won’t happen) is career folks will be moved into some of these empty positions and they can salvage some pieces of the gov’t.

Most likely, some of the more junior true-believers will be installed as temp/acting whatevers and continue the dismantling of the gov’t in order to please their masters.

Hugh @ 97

Steve-AR @ 87

After reading McConnell’s statement about the tele-coms…he is right..the company and stock holders shouldn’t be penalized..it’s the CEOs the Vps and the board members who should be indicted, tried and sent to prison under the Federal guidelines for their felonies. With the number of violations of law, each person would receive 100 plus years in prison..each year well deserved.

Stockholders are ultimately responsible for the governance of the corporations in which they invest. Corporations are legal persons and as such should be subject to the sanctions of the law. By not penalizing stockholders, corporations, and yes, corporate officers, we are basically saying that what they did was OK and that there is no downside to illegality.

I agree with the theory but sucking capital out of the telecoms is not in the public interest. Putting the people who are directly responsible in prison is in the public interest.

raven @ 105

sheilankc @ 104

He’ll be nowhere to be found when this shit is over.

Sadly, I suspect that’s the truest thing I have seen on these here intertubes in years.

He was here in town today and kids on buses and traffic were backed up for at least an hour. A least there were a lot of protesters, where they could be, I suppose.

One short anecdote: As we passed the State House, Lucy spotted Mitt’s car – Roof, roof, she alerted us, ROOF.

raven @ 105

sheilankc @ 104

I just have to wonder, do we have to wait for chimpy mcflight suit to say the war is over and then it is finally over? CNN just really pissed me off with their coverage of him and the whole vietnam/war thing. I can’t even watch CNN anymore. JEEZ.

He’ll be nowhere to be found when this shit is over.

Paraguay, is my guess, just like all the other fascists… No extradition treaties with the Hague…!!!

Blub @ 87

I guess we know now who’s going to be getting those Sr Fellow positions at the Center for Shrubstudies thinktank, when its up and running.

I have the feeling that the money is going to flow freely at the George W. Bush Liebury, Think Trough and Academy of Ratfucking.

ThinkProgress links to a new report on Victor Bout, Merchant of Death. It seems Bout got $60 million dollars to transport “supplies” to Iraq. This even included free taxpayer paid fuel, 500,000 gallons worth. But it looks like our old nemesis, Wolfie Wolfowitz was involved!
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The U.S. government paid a wanted international criminal roughly $60 million to fly supplies into Iraq in support of the war effort, a new book alleges.

Yet from 2003 through at least 2005, Pentagon contractors used air cargo companies known to be connected to Bout to fly an estimated 1,000 supply trips into and out of Iraq, according to “Merchant of Death: Money, Guns, Plans, and the Man Who Makes War Possible.”

In a January 2005 letter to Congress, then-Assistant Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz admitted the Defense Department “did conduct business with companies that, in turn, subcontracted work to second-tier providers who leased aircraft owned by companies associated with Mr. Bout.”

Bout didn’t just walk away with millions of taxpayer dollars, the authors found. The military issued Bout’s pilots supply cards allowing them to gas up their planes for free when landing in Iraq. A Defense Department spokesman confirmed to the authors that Bout’s fleet made off with nearly 500,000 gallons of fuel from the Baghdad airport courtesy of the U.S. Air Force…

“Bout pulled off the ultimate metamorphosis,” the authors write, “from hunted international criminal to the U.S. military’s secret deliveryman.

Steve-AR @ 87

After reading McConnell’s statement about the tele-coms…he is right..the company and stock holders shouldn’t be penalized..it’s the CEOs the Vps and the board members who should be indicted, tried and sent to prison under the Federal guidelines for their felonies. With the number of violations of law, each person would receive 100 plus years in prison..each year well deserved.

Oh, NO..o.o.o.o.oo.oooHHHHH!!!

We gotta indemnify the collaborators, just like we’re gonna bail out the mortgage industry so they won’t suffer the consequences of their greed. We’re not gonna bail out the mortgagees, no, we’re in fact gonna make it harder for them to BK, but the corporations, no, they get bailouts.

Looking at our president on Hardball trying to justify his Iraq war based upon Vietnam. Mr. president you’ve got to be the biggest chicken shit mother/father fucker coward, hypocrite I’ve ever run across. Your daddy got you out of serving in Nam. Rember, you 1/2 wit yellow belly.

Also, unbelievably, there were protestors to the protesters, reported on our local news. You just have wonder who those people could possibly be. Also, I am surprised that the bedwetter has such a large entourage. Who would want to hang out with him? My gawd. With friends like those, hmmm.

The President from hell took a vacation from his vacation today to make a speech- about Vietnam. He says that thousands of innocents died because we left…

implications:

1) If Bush had been in charge, we would not have left Vietnam- we’d still be there- surging!

2) Bush is not at all concerned about the MILLIONS of innocents who were killed by american bombing and STAYIN in the Nam.

3) Bush’s point is that by stayin the course and surgin an all- we’re savin lifes–ignoring the fact that we’re killing vietnameses—oops- Iraqis- like flies- half a million or so to date.

4) If there were any doubts about this man’s fitness for service- he just eliminated them..

He’s fuckin Crazy!!

So who was this argument directed at? People in the middle who aren’t sure about the war? Hell no- it’s aimed that the dinosaurs who think we made a mistake leaving the Nam- probably 5% of the population and every one of em already support the idiot..Go figure..

Here’s the money shot..

If you think we made a mistake leaving Viet Nam- vote gooper!!!

Has anyone seen Freedom’s Watch ads? Since I’m C-SPAN and PPS exclusively, I don’t see these ads.

moeman @ 103

As Atrios might suggest, Joe Klein is sounding mighty shrill;

http://time-blog.com/swampland…..peech.html

Read it and weep (for America).

Wow. Is this the same Jokeline we’ve known and mocked lo these many years?

tejanarusa @ 120

moeman @ 103

As Atrios might suggest, Joe Klein is sounding mighty shrill;

http://time-blog.com/swampland…..peech.html

Read it and weep (for America).

Wow. Is this the same Jokeline we’ve known and mocked lo these many years?

Welcome to the new center, Joe.

Jane Hamsher @ 64

Hastert’s leaving?

Why are all the crooks leaving the building

They have a line of new crooks waiting to get in.
And,
raven @ 62

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) Two days after top Senate Democrats called for Maliki’s removal, Bush said, “It is not up to the politicians in Washington, D.C., to say whether he will remain in his job.” That, Bush added, is up to the Iraqi people, “who live in a democracy, not a dictatorship

It must be nice.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 116

Looking at our president on Hardball trying to justify his Iraq war based upon Vietnam. Mr. president you’ve got to be the biggest chicken shit mother/father fucker coward, hypocrite I’ve ever run across. Your daddy got you out of serving in Nam. Rember, you 1/2 wit yellow belly.

Geez OK Kiddo, that’s a mouthful, coming from you. YOu must be riled up.

Not one of the commentators who has discussed Bush’s speech has pointed out the Bush would have stayed in Nam–that’s the most important point of the fuckin speech!!!

None of them point out that we literaly killed millions of innocents WHILE WE WERE THERE- or that Clusterfuck has killed about a half a million innocents in Iraq since his invasion…

It’s hard to say if the commentators are in the tank for the war or just to slow witted to bring up the facts.

Hastert wanted to leave before the LAST election –but Rove talked him into stayin to save the seat for gooperdom.

It would be instructive to see what Articles of Impeachment for GWB would sound like, as written by Bruce Fein.

QuakerGirl @ 119

Has anyone seen Freedom’s Watch ads? Since I’m C-SPAN and PPS exclusively, I don’t see these ads.

Yea, pretty sad. They show the dude hobblin around on his crutches, the planes hitting the wtc, DON’T QUIT in text.

RonD @ 126

It would be instructive to see what Articles of Impeachment for GWB would sound like, as written by Bruce Fein.

Aaah. Can’t you just feel how healing it would be for this country, for the world, to see chimp in cuffs, orange jump suit, in front of the world court. Add big dick, condi, big sleazy brain, and all the rest. A good vision, won’t solve everything, but a good place to start.

Amy Goodman on Hardball RIGHT NOW!!

RonD @ 129

Amy Goodman on Hardball RIGHT NOW!!

Who was that jerk debating Goodman? Just caught the end of it.

carolyn urban @ 123

Oklahoma kiddo @ 116

Looking at our president on Hardball trying to justify his Iraq war based upon Vietnam. Mr. president you’ve got to be the biggest chicken shit mother/father fucker coward, hypocrite I’ve ever run across. Your daddy got you out of serving in Nam. Rember, you 1/2 wit yellow belly.

Geez OK Kiddo, that’s a mouthful, coming from you. YOu must be riled up.

I do appreciate economy of language. ;0)

He is an a$$hole saying anything about democracy. The men, women, and children in Iraq are the real victims in all of this. To hear that women who used to be able to work, very professional jobs, are now having to prostitute themselves to feed their children is so offensive. No water, no food, no electricity, no money, no husband, no way out, wow democracy. Excuse me, I will be banging my head on the wall now.

We need to talk about impeachment from now until January 2009.

Call us the Blue-in-the-Face Dems.

carolyn urban @ 123

Oklahoma kiddo @ 116

Looking at our president on Hardball trying to justify his Iraq war based upon Vietnam. Mr. president you’ve got to be the biggest chicken shit mother/father fucker coward, hypocrite I’ve ever run across. Your daddy got you out of serving in Nam. Rember, you 1/2 wit yellow belly.

Geez OK Kiddo, that’s a mouthful, coming from you. YOu must be riled up.

And well he should be. I amazed that the Draft-Dodger-in-Chief can bring up Vietnam without feeling kinda sheepish! But then I keep forgetting everything is different for sociopaths.

egregious @ 7

peanutbutter @ 2

Oh, I can’t watch him. I literally can’t look at him. I can barely even read a transcript of what he’s said. I get so infuriated.

Well, neither can he.

Egregious,

Who are you supporting for president at this point?

Hey Jane!

I messed up the above post to egregious, who villified me for using the term pseudo progressives here earlier.

Egregious,

Who is your progressive pick?

What National Honor? Let’s get real Jane. This country came to be by slaughtering Native Americans, and enslaving Africans. As a nation we are guilty of horrendous crimes against humanity.

The death and destruction is Iraq is just the latest of our crimes.