Then it fucking well should be.

It’s why more and more democrats (Led by Clinton and Lieberman) are parroting the obscene bushCo line that what’s happening in Iraq now; that what’s keeping us from the apple-pie fantasy ending that the neo-turds like Cheyney, Wolfowitz, and Perle, were jacking off to, 5 years ago, is simply that the “Iraqi government” has failed to come out from under it’s desks in the green zone, and man-up to it’s purple-fingered promise of the election which bush engineered.

Incidentally, of course, THIS excuses the “well-intentioned” (Gosharootie, folks; the clusterfuck just up and crawled into our hands!) creators of the shitmire from having to take responsibility for it. And the democrats (and Lieberman) seem perfectly happy to bend over and spread their cheeks, and hurry that process along.

For me, the bright hopes from winning the mid-terms, are about gone.

I’ve defended Pelosi and Reid, saying that they should NOT force troop withdrawals from Iraq without the bastards who STARTED this misery, joining them in taking the responsiblity for what is almost certain to follow. But at this point, their surrender is becoming so complete; their abandoment of any priciples; of any concern for the truth; is becoming so wretched, that watching THEM speak on the MSM is almost as nauseating as watching bush spout off HIS corrupt bullshit.

I’m at this point: If the democrats are willing to help bush string this shit out, and volunteer to inherit it, it will mean that the people who did this to us, will blithely walk out the door, and then WE will become the sole owners and proprietors of bush’s gangfuck in the desert, with the practically inevitable ending to be put on OUR political bartab.

I can’t speak for anyone else on here, but by God, I will not be able to stand the sight of Karl Rove dancing naked on top of O’Reilly’s desk, while Bill, now able to start blaming US for it all, beams like Jon-Benet’s parents watching her celebrate after winning a beauty contest.

No. Fuck no.

I would rather the repubs win everything; House, Senate, and White House, than gag on more koolaid and snakeoil…and democrat-brewed koolaid and snakeoil, at that.

If the democrats we “hired” to protect us, and to help us run these twisted excuses for humans out of town, can’t or won’t take this opportunity to, AT EVERY FUCKING TURN, denounce them for what they’ve done to Iraq; to us; and to the world, then let the republicans have their corporate 4th Reich.

I will vote for Nader, or ANY independent, if it will deprive the likes of Clinton and McNerney from a “victory”, so that they can sustain the same lying bullshit that got us into this misery.

What’s it take?

GET OUT!!! NOW!! Leave the mess to others!!!

That’s what progressives are calling for!

Anything LESS, is pure bullshit spin for status quo . . . .

Pure BS folks, don’t be sucked in.

GET OUT!! NOW!!!

What a buncha fuckery this Dem party is snarking around and about . . .

Harumph.

YOU and Jer don’t speak for ME.

“McNerney’s actions have served to prolong our stay in Iraq by giving cover to the Bush apologists.”

Yeah, kinda like your actions and words give cover to the terrorist enemies. But of course, here at FDL, Republicans and GWB are the greater enemies, and America be damned. Partisanship trumps all, even the safety of American troops or American interests.

A lot of us here think that the invasion and occupation of Iraq is the biggest strategic mistake any country has ever made since Hitler invaded Russia. Think about it. We are gutting our military, we have pretty much united the world against us, the Russians are now patrolling nuclear armed airplanes for the first time in 15 years — and it’s not for China, believe me. And you think that ’supporting the troops’ means supporting this disaster?

Bab

The Field Poll says that 39% favor a complete withdrawal—an additional 26% favor a “partial” withdrawal (whatever that is)

75% favor BEGINNING to withdraw SOME troops by next SPRING.

Voters consistently say that they favor withdrawal sometime in the near future and then when that time comes- they push the horizon out further…

It’s not as clear poltically as I would like it to be.

This is what the Dems are seeing in their polls, and it is what queers them. The American public know that things are not going well and that we should get out. They have not absorbed the magnitude of the defeat, which is strategic and total. When that comes home, there will be hell to pay. The question is, who is going to be that hell? The Dems and the DFH’s, or the thugs? The thugs are positioning so that it will be us.

The truth is- without significant gooper support- the dems cannot and will not get us out of this war. They don’t have the votes to overide a veto or to stop a fillibuster- and they will not stop funding- so unless someone does a deal with the goopers- we’re in this thing for 16 more months at least

I think we may be in for three more years or so at a minimum.

Me, too. It’s going to end in military disaster. But what can you do? Nobody has the balls to pull out. It’s like the First World War in the trenches.

Madness, Madness Madness.

The last hope I cling to is that Gore will step in.

I’m with you OKK. But it’s just about too late:
Gore/Obama 08
People should be circulating petitions to get Al on the ballot for the super Tues. (Feb 5)primaries. Petitions in those states are probably due in Oct.

“McNerney’s actions have served to prolong our stay in Iraq by giving cover to the Bush apologists.”

Yeah, kinda like your actions and words give cover to the terrorist enemies. But of course, here at FDL, Republicans and GWB are the greater enemies, and America be damned. Partisanship trumps all, even the safety of American troops or American interests.

America be damned? After Bush breaks our military, kills our intelligence services, busts our disaster preparedness and the same terrorists you are shitting your pants about perform the attack you so desperately fear/wish for, what part of America will be left?

We’re interested in America’s future as an ongoing enterprise, not as a holding area in which to wait for the Rapture. Take it somewhere else buddy, that shit is old.

Then I read dw’s post above and remembered who the real idiots are.

Yeah, kinda like your actions and words give cover to the terrorist enemies. But of course, here at FDL, Republicans and GWB are the greater enemies, and America be damned. Partisanship trumps all, even the safety of American troops or American interests.