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		<title>By: Alecia</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/21/late-nite-fdl-that-other-op-ed/#comment-911809</link>
		<dc:creator>Alecia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t believe that the O’Hanlon and Pollack piece was done by accident, especially since we now have a few Dems. hinting that the “surge” is somewhat working. If I am not mistaken, I believe I read somewhere that one of those two guys is consulting with a Dem presidential campaign.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t believe that the O’Hanlon and Pollack piece was done by accident, especially since we now have a few Dems. hinting that the “surge” is somewhat working. If I am not mistaken, I believe I read somewhere that one of those two guys is consulting with a Dem presidential campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: bob h</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/21/late-nite-fdl-that-other-op-ed/#comment-911770</link>
		<dc:creator>bob h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The only consolation from all this is that the destruction of the Republicans in 2008 is made more certain.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only consolation from all this is that the destruction of the Republicans in 2008 is made more certain.</p>
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		<title>By: El Cid</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/21/late-nite-fdl-that-other-op-ed/#comment-911756</link>
		<dc:creator>El Cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, c’mon, let’s not put lipstick on a pig.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The fact that a couple of scholars (O’Hanlon &amp; Pollack) wrote a silly puff piece does NOT make it a “scholarly” article.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The O’Hanlon / Pollack piece is a puff piece;  it would be a puff piece no matter who had written it or what spin it had taken.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In order to be a “scholarly” article you still have to pass standards of evidentiary importance and methodological respectability.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Their little spin piece means nothing, and would have failed if it had been any graduate student’s research paper.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, c’mon, let’s not put lipstick on a pig.</p>
<p>The fact that a couple of scholars (O’Hanlon &amp; Pollack) wrote a silly puff piece does NOT make it a “scholarly” article.</p>
<p>The O’Hanlon / Pollack piece is a puff piece;  it would be a puff piece no matter who had written it or what spin it had taken.</p>
<p>In order to be a “scholarly” article you still have to pass standards of evidentiary importance and methodological respectability.</p>
<p>Their little spin piece means nothing, and would have failed if it had been any graduate student’s research paper.</p>
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		<title>By: wesgpc</title>
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		<dc:creator>wesgpc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 07:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;wigwam, et al: Bush is not going to prejudge the report he is going to write and put those guys’ names on? I’m confused again.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wigwam, et al: Bush is not going to prejudge the report he is going to write and put those guys’ names on? I’m confused again.</p>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/21/late-nite-fdl-that-other-op-ed/#comment-911638</link>
		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 06:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-911422&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;BigMitch @ 179&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-911260&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Spiritcatcher @ 28&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;the “Petraeus” report is 3 weeks away, so there’s some time left to frame it …&lt;br /&gt;
 - …&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I did see Chimp on TV tonight talking about Iraq (shown on Hardball.) He said, “I don’t want to pre-judge what’s in the report from David Patreaus.” LIke I am supposed to believe that his chief general in Iraq has been told, “Don’t say a word to you-know-who! It’s supposed to be a &lt;em&gt;suprise!&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There was something hinky about chimp’s appearance on Hardball.  I think that he’s worried about Petraeus straying from the reservation and becoming a loose cannon.  (Please pardon the mixture of metaphors.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-911422"><em>BigMitch @ 179</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-911260"><em>Spiritcatcher @ 28</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>the “Petraeus” report is 3 weeks away, so there’s some time left to frame it …<br />
 &#8211; …</p>
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<p>I did see Chimp on TV tonight talking about Iraq (shown on Hardball.) He said, “I don’t want to pre-judge what’s in the report from David Patreaus.” LIke I am supposed to believe that his chief general in Iraq has been told, “Don’t say a word to you-know-who! It’s supposed to be a <em>suprise!</em></p>
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<p>There was something hinky about chimp’s appearance on Hardball.  I think that he’s worried about Petraeus straying from the reservation and becoming a loose cannon.  (Please pardon the mixture of metaphors.)</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/21/late-nite-fdl-that-other-op-ed/#comment-911559</link>
		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 05:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-911529&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;CTuttle @ 274&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-911523&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;bobschacht @ 269&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for asking. Are you going to her Farmer’s Market gig on Hilo? I’d ask her what it is with House Democratic anemic leadership, referring specifically to the cave-in on FISA right before the summer recess, and the failure to draw down the Occupation of Iraq. Why do they seem so spineless?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was planning on asking about FISA, she did vote against it, tho!!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My question was about the *leadership*, and why they caved on this one. “Caving” is just not a matter of how you voted, but about how, or whether, you controlled the agenda. Abercrombie voted against FISA, too, but he didn’t use his seniority to block a vote on the bad bills.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Good luck on your meeting!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-911529"><em>CTuttle @ 274</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-911523"><em>bobschacht @ 269</em></a></p>
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<p>Thanks for asking. Are you going to her Farmer’s Market gig on Hilo? I’d ask her what it is with House Democratic anemic leadership, referring specifically to the cave-in on FISA right before the summer recess, and the failure to draw down the Occupation of Iraq. Why do they seem so spineless?</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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<p>I was planning on asking about FISA, she did vote against it, tho!!!</p>
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<p>My question was about the *leadership*, and why they caved on this one. “Caving” is just not a matter of how you voted, but about how, or whether, you controlled the agenda. Abercrombie voted against FISA, too, but he didn’t use his seniority to block a vote on the bad bills.</p>
<p>Good luck on your meeting!</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: Marretta</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/21/late-nite-fdl-that-other-op-ed/#comment-911552</link>
		<dc:creator>Marretta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 05:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’ve been thinking about the wonderful report on the visit to Issa’a office and the talk with his minion.  The one thing about it that really impressed me is that the guy could not understand why one of the working poor would pass up a chance to shop at Wallmart. The idea of boycotting a company if it meant paying a few dollars more here and there was absolutely alien to this guy. It comes as no surprise that he is working for the bored millionaire. Do any of these guys actually have souls? Maybe I do lose sleep worrying about stuff like that, but better to lose a bit of sleep than be an amoral sociopath.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve been thinking about the wonderful report on the visit to Issa’a office and the talk with his minion.  The one thing about it that really impressed me is that the guy could not understand why one of the working poor would pass up a chance to shop at Wallmart. The idea of boycotting a company if it meant paying a few dollars more here and there was absolutely alien to this guy. It comes as no surprise that he is working for the bored millionaire. Do any of these guys actually have souls? Maybe I do lose sleep worrying about stuff like that, but better to lose a bit of sleep than be an amoral sociopath.</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 05:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-911509&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TeddySanFran @ 255&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-911493&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;bobschacht @ 241&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Yeah. I personally want to convince Alison Stewart that I’m just prematurely gray, and the birth date on my driver’s license is a misprint.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alison_Stewart&quot;&gt;Alison Stewart&lt;/a&gt; is 41.  Go for it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh, dang. She’s married. {sniff}&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-911509"><em>TeddySanFran @ 255</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-911493"><em>bobschacht @ 241</em></a></p>
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<p>Yeah. I personally want to convince Alison Stewart that I’m just prematurely gray, and the birth date on my driver’s license is a misprint.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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<p>Bob, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alison_Stewart">Alison Stewart</a> is 41.  Go for it.</p>
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<p>Oh, dang. She’s married. {sniff}</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: TexBetsy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/21/late-nite-fdl-that-other-op-ed/#comment-911544</link>
		<dc:creator>TexBetsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 05:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;new thread.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>new thread.</p>
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		<title>By: LoudounLib</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/21/late-nite-fdl-that-other-op-ed/#comment-911543</link>
		<dc:creator>LoudounLib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 05:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-911539&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;burnspbesq @ 277&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-911530&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LoudounLib @ 275&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;burns, ah yes — I remember it well  ;-)  I’m a geezer too.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ve crawled out of the Irish Times a few times, as well.  One of my best friends from growing up ended up marrying Andy O’Brien from The Irish Tradition.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh lordy, the Irish Times…ever go to Murphy’s in Old Town?  btw we’re upstairs now  ;-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-911539"><em>burnspbesq @ 277</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-911530"><em>LoudounLib @ 275</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>burns, ah yes — I remember it well  ;-)  I’m a geezer too.</p>
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<p>I’ve crawled out of the Irish Times a few times, as well.  One of my best friends from growing up ended up marrying Andy O’Brien from The Irish Tradition.</p>
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<p>Oh lordy, the Irish Times…ever go to Murphy’s in Old Town?  btw we’re upstairs now  ;-)</p>
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