TRex!

Trex!

Hey TRex. Hi Alicia.

fourth!

There’s an echo in here

Hey pete

(( waves to petedownunder ))

That dang wheel kept a spinning….!!!

Sing it loud and sing it proud!

I love Beth Ditto! Good call, TRex!

Hey TexBetsy!

Girls just want to have fun.

14-ish?
yellowdog jim @ 258

i’m a thinking about opening up a
FDL MLB group on facebook, under Forest’s FDL Groups application.

i’ll be right back …
done.
Okay.
join FDL MBL Firedogs

You’re Up!

’twas epu-ish.

did someone let downstairs know?

Suzanne @ 14

did someone let downstairs know?

yes ma’am!

so, tex, since those cakes were designated for the birthday folks, what you got for us non birthday folk?

Oh TRex, ygm (sent earlier this evening)

*ahem* TRex, did you forget something?

You know, this is a good song, but this band seriously needs a better rhythm section. I appreciate the punk-y, “engaging bunch of amateurs” vibe as much as anyone, but her voice is too good to be paired with such a mushy drummer. The guy can barely keep time.

Suzanne @ 18

*ahem* TRex, did you forget something?

What? I washed my hands after I peed, I swear!

Y’all may all have a piece of each cake. One of them even has fruit on it.

TRex @ 20

Suzanne @ 18

*ahem* TRex, did you forget something?

What? I washed my hands after I peed, I swear!

With soap????

Listening to the new Bruce Hornsby album right now.

God, I love Jack deJohnette.

Hi TB Hi LL, g’day pups. We finally got some rain here – reservoirs down to 16%, pretty scary.

Hope everyone is doing well up north. It’s still a workday here so I can only do a drive by.

(strumming right hand nails on desktop while holding out left hand) don’t tell me you forgot while at the store?

burns, my next purchase will be the latest Josh Ritter. Read a great review about it in Paste magazine.

With soap????

Yes, with a lovely new bar of Pears soap from the UK that litbrit gave me.

just a quick drive by before i leave for work:

Edwards is my candidate.

He’s not even close to perfect but he’s calling out Hillary on Iraq and he’s more experienced and less beholden than Obama.
Edwards is the only candidate that has a chance of overtaking Hillary and Barak.
Clincher:

the MSM and the punditry clearly dislike him and the corporations fear him.

have a good evening all ……

burnspbesq @ 23

Listening to the new Bruce Hornsby album right now.

God, I love Jack deJohnette.

Wow, I didn’t realize they released a new album… Kewl!!!

CTuttle @ 29

burnspbesq @ 23

Listening to the new Bruce Hornsby album right now.

God, I love Jack deJohnette.

Wow, I didn’t realize they released a new album… Kewl!!!

With Christian McBride on bass.

fahrender @ 28

just a quick drive by before i leave for work:

Edwards is my candidate.

He’s not even close to perfect but he’s calling out Hillary on Iraq and he’s more experienced and less beholden than Obama.
Edwards is the only candidate that has a chance of overtaking Hillary and Barak.
Clincher:

the MSM and the punditry clearly dislike him and the corporations fear him.

have a good evening all ……

I’m with you.

petedownunder @ 24

You have reservoirs with water? Gee we have docks sitting on dry land in Arizona. We are in our 13yr of a drought, too bad no one has thought of water rationing, conserving or anything like that.

Where did I read that the attacking of kerry came from rove, who feared edwards would be the dem candidate in 04 – he attacked kerry to draw attention to him – to make the focus be on kerry and not edwards – I think it was on one of the sunday heads shows he talked about it iirc.

Suzanne @ 33

Where did I read that the attacking of kerry came from rove, who feared edwards would be the dem candidate in 04 – he attacked kerry to draw attention to him – to make the focus be on kerry and not edwards – I think it was on one of the sunday heads shows he talked about it iirc.

dang it, submitted before i was done – which was to add that i wonder if that is why hrc is getting attacked to divert attention to her instead of edwards?

Whazzup, Pups?

FunnyD

hey funnd – some great birthday cakes downstairs tex brought for the birthday folk. 3 cakes!

burnspbesq @ 30

CTuttle @ 29

Wow, I didn’t realize they released a new album… Kewl!!!

With Christian McBride on bass.

The only decent Bruce on “The way it is…”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvnXC_9w7MU

TRex @ 19

You know, this is a good song, but this band seriously needs a better rhythm section. I appreciate the punk-y, “engaging bunch of amateurs” vibe as much as anyone, but her voice is too good to be paired with such a mushy drummer. The guy can barely keep time.

i thank you for introducing me to them.
i had read of and seen reports about Beth, but i had no idea.
you have turned on to some great music here, TRex.
thx

Do they think we will rally around HRC because they attack her?

That is a silly notion. Yes they are afraid of Edwards because he talks in value speech, he is from the poor and made it AND did not become a hard hearted Repug but an unabashed Liberal. IMO Edwards is getting the Dean scream treatment.

Suz, somewhere earlier Tuesday I read (or saw) something about the Rove reverse psychology about all that — wish I could remember more, but I’m a bit impaired because I’ve been awake since 0430 Tuesday :-~

sorry for typoing your name, funnyd

Suzanne @ 36

hey funnd – some great birthday cakes downstairs tex brought for the birthday folk. 3 cakes!

Oh, so that’s it. The dude in the photo is going downstairs for birthday cake! Yeah, that’s it!

Thanks for the tip. Once a starvaging, scrounging grad student, always a ssgs!

FunnyD

LoudounLib @ 40

Suz, somewhere earlier Tuesday I read (or saw) something about the Rove reverse psychology about all that — wish I could remember more, but I’m a bit impaired because I’ve been awake since 0430 Tuesday :-~

I’ve gotten sleep and still can’t remember, LL. I wish I could remember because I do believe that Edwards is who the GOP fear.

katymine @ 32

petedownunder @ 24

You have reservoirs with water? Gee we have docks sitting on dry land in Arizona. We are in our 13yr of a drought, too bad no one has thought of water rationing, conserving or anything like that.

The reservoirs weren’t designed for water storage so much as for flood control (we had monster flood in 1974) so they are not located in good rainfall area. We are in Stage 5 water restrictions – 140 liters (about 36 US gallons) per person per day, no lawn watering or car washing. No one planned for drought. Sorry to hear about yours, but really isn’t AZ mostly desert? What was expected?

Wow, the Yankees have halved the score with one out to work with in the Ninth!!! 18-9 now…!!!

Katymine,

Do you get as angry as I do when you drive past the damn golf courses? I feel guilty about maintaining the few drought tolerant plants in my desert landscaped yard and these pricks waste all that water so they can golf? I bet they take long showers too.

CTuttle @ 45

Wow, the Yankees have halved the score with one out to work with in the Ninth!!! 18-9 now…!!!

Now a final.

Suzanne @ 41

sorry for typoing your name, funnyd

hee hee. you’re forgiven. I hadn’t noticed until you said something, but, yes, that’s a bit of an unfortunate typo!

How’s the headache? Have you recovered?

FunnyD

I’ve officially hit the wall here…good night all!

Per Americablog, the GOP is turning on rethugs (from the link):

Wow. The Bush administration is clearly going off the deep end. They are now using their passion for negative ads against their fellow Republicans (like Mitch McConnell who said that come September we’d better be changing course in Iraq). And, of course, it’s all about Iraq. They are doing it through some phantom organization called “Freedom’s Watch.” The spokesperson for the group is none other than Bush spinmeister Ari Fleischer:

Looks like Ari is trying to get back into boosh’s good graces.

LoudounLib @ 49

I’ve officially hit the wall here…good night all!

Gnight, LL.

LoudounLib @ 49

I’ve officially hit the wall here…good night all!

I’m right behind you.

Night all.

LoudounLib @ 49

I’ve officially hit the wall here…good night all!

sweet dreams

Suzanne @ 33

Where did I read that the attacking of kerry came from rove, who feared edwards would be the dem candidate in 04 – he attacked kerry to draw attention to him – to make the focus be on kerry and not edwards – I think it was on one of the sunday heads shows he talked about it iirc.

LATimes, via Froomkin

The ploy was described by Rove lieutenant Matthew Dowd during a postmortem conference on the 2004 election at Harvard University the month after Bush defeated Democratic Sen. John F. Kerry of Massachusetts.

In the run-up to the 2004 Democratic National Convention, when it was not yet clear who Bush’s opponent would be that November, Rove and his aides had begun to fear that their most dangerous foe would be then-Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina.

With his Southern base, charismatic style and populist message, Edwards, they believed, could be a real threat to Bush’s reelection.

But instead of attacking Edwards, Rove’s team opened fire at Kerry.

Their thinking went like this, Dowd explained: Democrats, in a knee-jerk reaction to GOP attacks, would rally around Kerry, whom Rove considered a comparatively weak opponent, and make him the party’s nominee. Thus Bush would be spared from confronting Edwards, the candidate Republican strategists actually feared most.

Unlike Kerry, who had been in public service for decades, Edwards was a political newcomer and lacked a long record that could be attacked. And, unlike former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, who had been the front-runner but whose campaign was collapsing in Iowa, Edwards couldn’t easily be painted as “nutty.”

If that sounds implausibly convoluted, consider Dowd’s own words:

“Whomever we attacked was going to be emboldened in Democratic primary voters’ minds.

“So we started attacking John Kerry a lot in the end of January because we were very worried about John Edwards,” Dowd said. “And we knew that if we focused on John Kerry, Democratic primary voters would sort of coalesce” around Kerry.

“It wasn’t like we could tag [eliminate] somebody. Whomever we attacked was going to be helped,” he said.

Nicolle Wallace, the 2004 Bush campaign communications director, recalled at the Harvard conference that the campaign “refused” to even respond to Edwards’ attacks on Bush, not wanting to make him seem like a threat.

katymine @ 39

Do they think we will rally around HRC because they attack her?

That is a silly notion. Yes they are afraid of Edwards because he talks in value speech, he is from the poor and made it AND did not become a hard hearted Repug but an unabashed Liberal. IMO Edwards is getting the Dean scream treatment.

The GOP and their corporate masters loath and fear Edwards because of how he made it. There is nothing a corporation hates more than a trial lawyer. They are the only ones to enforce any sort of accountability on them.

LoudounLib @ 49

I’ve officially hit the wall here…good night all!

Sleep well, LL!!!

TexBetsy @ 52

LoudounLib @ 49

I’ve officially hit the wall here…good night all!

I’m right behind you.

Night all.

good night betsy

CTuttle @ 45

Wow, the Yankees have halved the score with one out to work with in the Ninth!!! 18-9 now…!!!

it’s OK – they put all the kids in to give ‘em a little experience…

TexBetsy @ 52

LoudounLib @ 49

I’ve officially hit the wall here…good night all!

I’m right behind you.

Night all.

Sleep serenely, Ma’am!!!

g’nite ll, tex and anyone else i may have missed

funnyd, headache is better but still some residual double vision in one eye – but that is slowly waning… should be diving by tomorrow nite

http://www.azcentral.com/news/…..m0729.html

Twelve years into one of the worst droughts on record, life remains pretty good in our little central Arizona oasis. No one has forced us to Tgive up anything so far, not grass, not swimming pools, not the fake lakes that shimmer with real water.

We even managed to steal the “fastest growing” title from Nevada in the middle of this dry streak.
[ ]
plus 3 million more thirsty people and the runoff-sapping effects of climate change.

he reservoirs on the Colorado, Salt and Verde rivers, which together supply more than two-thirds of the Valley’s water, will sit nearly empty. Farmers, who now cope with water shortages that have stretched over a decade, will suffer more. Cities left with less water from the reservoirs will pump more than 8 trillion gallons of groundwater without the ability to replace it, robbing aquifers of future reserves and leaving wide patches of land vulnerable to subsidence.

“It’s about climate change. It’s about growth . . . Does anyone really believe we’re going to have 8 million people here without some sort of change?”

That is what happens to the 5th largest city in the USA when Repugs are running the government.

TeddySanFran @ 54

Suzanne @ 33

Where did I read that the attacking of kerry came from rove, who feared edwards would be the dem candidate in 04 – he attacked kerry to draw attention to him – to make the focus be on kerry and not edwards – I think it was on one of the sunday heads shows he talked about it iirc.

LATimes, via Froomkin

The ploy was described by Rove lieutenant Matthew Dowd during a postmortem conference on the 2004 election at Harvard University the month after Bush defeated Democratic Sen. John F. Kerry of Massachusetts.

In the run-up to the 2004 Democratic National Convention, when it was not yet clear who Bush’s opponent would be that November, Rove and his aides had begun to fear that their most dangerous foe would be then-Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina.

With his Southern base, charismatic style and populist message, Edwards, they believed, could be a real threat to Bush’s reelection.

But instead of attacking Edwards, Rove’s team opened fire at Kerry.

Their thinking went like this, Dowd explained: Democrats, in a knee-jerk reaction to GOP attacks, would rally around Kerry, whom Rove considered a comparatively weak opponent, and make him the party’s nominee. Thus Bush would be spared from confronting Edwards, the candidate Republican strategists actually feared most.

Unlike Kerry, who had been in public service for decades, Edwards was a political newcomer and lacked a long record that could be attacked. And, unlike former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, who had been the front-runner but whose campaign was collapsing in Iowa, Edwards couldn’t easily be painted as “nutty.”

If that sounds implausibly convoluted, consider Dowd’s own words:

“Whomever we attacked was going to be emboldened in Democratic primary voters’ minds.

“So we started attacking John Kerry a lot in the end of January because we were very worried about John Edwards,” Dowd said. “And we knew that if we focused on John Kerry, Democratic primary voters would sort of coalesce” around Kerry.

“It wasn’t like we could tag [eliminate] somebody. Whomever we attacked was going to be helped,” he said.

Nicolle Wallace, the 2004 Bush campaign communications director, recalled at the Harvard conference that the campaign “refused” to even respond to Edwards’ attacks on Bush, not wanting to make him seem like a threat.

Thank you TSF!

OldCoastie @ 58

CTuttle @ 45

Wow, the Yankees have halved the score with one out to work with in the Ninth!!! 18-9 now…!!!

it’s OK – they put all the kids in to give ‘em a little experience…

Heh, G.A. almost tied the AL record of RBI’s in a game!!!

Good night, Betsy and LL!
Sleep well.

FunnyD

It’s a very important story, and one that’s lying in plain sight. Rove is not smart enough to do a triple head-fake; he was clearly rattled when David (”MC”) Gregory asked him about it on MTP. Said something about how “those people in Los Angeles needed to get real.”

Having actual quotes from Dowd and Wallace shows how truly amateurish this Bush League is. They are so proud of their doings in 2004 they can’t help both bragging about it — and repeating it, or trying to.

SteveAudio @ 12

Girls just want to have fun.

I hadn’t seen that music video in 24 years. What a rush! We’d just moved from Prince William Sound where we hadn’t had TV for ten years, and I got sucked into watching the music video channel. A lot. That Cindy Lauper song and one by MC Hammer (I can’t remember which one) brought me through the winter of 83-84. That and a lot of skiing, and going back to school.

Suzanne @ 60

g’nite ll, tex and anyone else i may have missed

funnyd, headache is better but still some residual double vision in one eye – but that is slowly waning… should be diving by tomorrow nite

Oh, hon, you must be exhausted. Can you get some sort of treatment or meds for next time? (though I hope there isn’t one…)

FunnyD

Marretta @ 46

Katymine,

Do you get as angry as I do when you drive past the damn golf courses? I feel guilty about maintaining the few drought tolerant plants in my desert landscaped yard and these pricks waste all that water so they can golf? I bet they take long showers too.

It is the fake lakes that get me, they use reclaimed water for the golf courses [from the water treatment processing plants]. The additional lakes & pools is the reason the monsoon season is so much more severe than when I was a kid a million years ago.

BTW the grass lawn I have actually keep my house cooler. The desert landscaping reflect the sunlight into the houses heating them up. Grass absorbs the heat & processes the co2. I have a very high tech watering system so I really do not use much for my lawns.

I have a question for those of you from the south. I was looking through a bunch of recipes and was baffled by a(I assume)regional name. What is a chicken claw pepper? It looked like a recipe I might want to try.

I tryed goggle without a answer.

ET – Can’t Touch This or Hammertime?

funnyd, i don’t get many bad headaches – well as many as I used to get before adding magnesium supplements which lessen both the duration and severity of them.

didn’t know my ‘headaches’ were migraines until baby girl had a migraine and i was able to get her into her pediatrician while it was occuring. he was asking her questions and i was answering “yes” in my head for me to his questions to her.

TeddySanFran @ 65

It’s a very important story, and one that’s lying in plain sight. Rove is not smart enough to do a triple head-fake; he was clearly rattled when David (”MC”) Gregory asked him about it on MTP. Said something about how “those people in Los Angeles needed to get real.”

Having actual quotes from Dowd and Wallace shows how truly amateurish this Bush League is. They are so proud of their doings in 2004 they can’t help both bragging about it — and repeating it, or trying to.

But, Teddy, their braggadocio hasn’t led to any significant frog-marches, yet!!! 8-(

Time to take my iPhone (which has all of today’s music purchases loaded) and head off to bed.

When we wake tomorrow, we will be one day closer to January 20, 2009.

Pleasant dreams, y’all.

g’nite burns

Nite burnspbesq

The GOP and their corporate masters loath and fear Edwards because of how he made it. There is nothing a corporation hates more than a trial lawyer. They are the only ones to enforce any sort of accountability on them.

– Helpless Dancer

This is spot on.

I watched Edwards up close at YKos and I liked the way he answered a few tough questions.
What is interesting is how the right is attacking him.

I often think about what to do with the attacks launched at all of our candidates. I think that only the blogosphere can effectively push back on them. We have to fight the “crazy-smear-to-Drudge-to-right-wing-radio-and cable” pipeline. After it gets to them the papers have to do a “it’s out there” story. I think we can help short circuit the process.

TeddySanFran @ 65

It’s a very important story, and one that’s lying in plain sight. Rove is not smart enough to do a triple head-fake; he was clearly rattled when David (”MC”) Gregory asked him about it on MTP. Said something about how “those people in Los Angeles needed to get real.”

Having actual quotes from Dowd and Wallace shows how truly amateurish this Bush League is. They are so proud of their doings in 2004 they can’t help both bragging about it — and repeating it, or trying to.

you make it so clear how transparent these cheneybu$hco rovers are.
which, i the very nearsighted, really appreciate.
thx

I agree, spocko, but the candidate also has to step up to the plate and defend him/herself – if they can’t stand up for themselves, they can’t stand up for americans.

Ok, fading fast here…

G’night all pups.
Take care of yourself, Suzanne! Hope you get some especially good rest in the next couple days.

FunnyD.

thanks, funnyd – sleep well

Ok lets blow Rover’s mind and rally around Edwards.

Sounds like lots of fun, scaring the sh*t out of the corporatist

Suzanne @ 77

I agree, spocko, but the candidate also has to step up to the plate and defend him/herself – if they can’t stand up for themselves, they can’t stand up for americans.

I would like to see our Democratic candidates stick up for one another when Rove attacks, though. When there’s GOP slime in play, all the candidates and their supporters should push back, regardless of which particular candidate they are sliming.

The first candidate to do so would show him/herself to be a real fighter for others’ rights, something important in a President.

spocko @ 75

The GOP and their corporate masters loath and fear Edwards because of how he made it. There is nothing a corporation hates more than a trial lawyer. They are the only ones to enforce any sort of accountability on them.

– Helpless Dancer

This is spot on.

I watched Edwards up close at YKos and I liked the way he answered a few tough questions.
What is interesting is how the right is attacking him.

I often think about what to do with the attacks launched at all of our candidates. I think that only the blogosphere can effectively push back on them. We have to fight the “crazy-smear-to-Drudge-to-right-wing-radio-and cable” pipeline. After it gets to them the papers have to do a “it’s out there” story. I think we can help short circuit the process.

Of the Declared’s I like Edwards, hands down, I think an Edwards/Obama ticket would be unbeatable!!!

TeddySanFran @ 81

Suzanne @ 77

I agree, spocko, but the candidate also has to step up to the plate and defend him/herself – if they can’t stand up for themselves, they can’t stand up for americans.

I would like to see our Democratic candidates stick up for one another when Rove attacks, though. When there’s GOP slime in play, all the candidates and their supporters should push back, regardless of which particular candidate they are sliming.

The first candidate to do so would show him/herself to be a real fighter for others’ rights, something important in a President.

Absolute, TSF – an attack on one should be considered an attack on all. That is the only way to stand up to a bully – fight back and call his forking bluff.

Suzanne @ 70

ET – Can’t Touch This or Hammertime?.

I’m thinking it couldn’t have been MC Hammer who helped get me through the winter of 83-84, ’cause he came later. U Can’t Touch This was good, until I saw it parodied.

CTuttle @ 82

spocko @ 75

– Helpless Dancer

This is spot on.

I watched Edwards up close at YKos and I liked the way he answered a few tough questions.
What is interesting is how the right is attacking him.

I often think about what to do with the attacks launched at all of our candidates. I think that only the blogosphere can effectively push back on them. We have to fight the “crazy-smear-to-Drudge-to-right-wing-radio-and cable” pipeline. After it gets to them the papers have to do a “it’s out there” story. I think we can help short circuit the process.

Of the Declared’s I like Edwards, hands down, I think an Edwards/Obama ticket would be unbeatable!!!

me, too.

TeddySanFran @ 81

Suzanne @ 77

I agree, spocko, but the candidate also has to step up to the plate and defend him/herself – if they can’t stand up for themselves, they can’t stand up for americans.

I would like to see our Democratic candidates stick up for one another when Rove attacks, though. When there’s GOP slime in play, all the candidates and their supporters should push back, regardless of which particular candidate they are sliming.

The first candidate to do so would show him/herself to be a real fighter for others’ rights, something important in a President.

Yes, modify St Ronnie’s commandment…!!! *g*

Rob Riddle is destroying the dog and pony shows for congresscritters on TDS.

katymine @ 80

Ok lets blow Rover’s mind and rally around Edwards.

Sounds like lots of fun, scaring the sh*t out of the corporatist

Beneficial as well as fun. As for Rover, his mind has already been blown. Does anyone know if he ever made it to the cover of Rolling Stone?

So every time the Dems are attacked…. and start circling the wagons and forming that circular firing squad, who is going to yell “ABOUT FACE” … ready, aim…. FIRE?

katymine @ 89

So every time the Dems are attacked…. and start circling the wagons and forming that circular firing squad, who is going to yell “ABOUT FACE” … ready, aim…. FIRE?

Whoever it is, I’m gonna be looking at that person with pride and respect.

Oh, I agree the candidate should stand up and fight back. I also agree that they should stick up for each other.

When I talk about the role we can play I’m thinking about multiple levels.

Part of this is getting ahead of the smears and to prep for them and expose them early on.

For example last year I got a phone call that was clearly a push poll designed to create doubt about the candidate running for a state office.

I recorded the call, called the campaigns and asked if they were behind it. They both denied it. I then tracked down the 527 that was funding it and got that info to the local political reporter. My goal was to force Candidate M to disavow the smears that the 527 were going to use on her behalf against Candidate R.

katymine @ 89

So every time the Dems are attacked…. and start circling the wagons and forming that circular firing squad, who is going to yell “ABOUT FACE” … ready, aim…. FIRE?

I’m rather practised in it, Ma’am, but, you’re definitely spot on!!! ;-)

CTuttle @ 86

Yes, modify St Ronnie’s commandment…!!! *g*

May 17, 1986:

‘A moment I’ve been dreading. George brought his ne’re-do-well son around this morning and asked me to find the kid a job. Not the political one who lives in Florida. The one who hangs around here all the time looking shiftless. This so-called kid is already almost 40 and has never had a real job. Maybe I’ll call Kinsley over at The New Republic and see if they’ll hire him as a contributing editor or something. That looks like easy work.‘
~ Ronald Reagan diaries

Suzanne @ 87

Rob Riddle is destroying the dog and pony shows for congresscritters on TDS.

he’s outside the green zone!

katymine @ 89

So every time the Dems are attacked…. and start circling the wagons and forming that circular firing squad, who is going to yell “ABOUT FACE” … ready, aim…. FIRE?

This tough lady!

we need to get her to DC.

spocko @ 91

Oh, I agree the candidate should stand up and fight back. I also agree that they should stick up for each other.

When I talk about the role we can play I’m thinking about multiple levels.

Part of this is getting ahead of the smears and to prep for them and expose them early on.

For example last year I got a phone call that was clearly a push poll designed to create doubt about the candidate running for a state office.

I recorded the call, called the campaigns and asked if they were behind it. They both denied it. I then tracked down the 527 that was funding it and got that info to the local political reporter. My goal was to force Candidate M to disavow the smears that the 527 were going to use on her behalf against Candidate R.

The Dems have to know that the base (us) have their backs when they fight back. I sure wish I knew how to do a reverse spine-ectomy.

I nominate Gen. Wesley Clark for the job… think he has a little experience with giving orders and maintaining discipline.

Good pick ET… hey did you get my facebook msg?

yellowdog jim @ 93

CTuttle @ 86

Yes, modify St Ronnie’s commandment…!!! *g*

May 17, 1986:

‘A moment I’ve been dreading. George brought his ne’re-do-well son around this morning and asked me to find the kid a job. Not the political one who lives in Florida. The one who hangs around here all the time looking shiftless. This so-called kid is already almost 40 and has never had a real job. Maybe I’ll call Kinsley over at The New Republic and see if they’ll hire him as a contributing editor or something. That looks like easy work.‘
~ Ronald Reagan diaries

…priceless!!! *g*

ET, I agree – Diane Benson has a spine and knows how to use it.

CTuttle @ 99

yellowdog jim @ 93

May 17, 1986:

‘A moment I’ve been dreading. George brought his ne’re-do-well son around this morning and asked me to find the kid a job. Not the political one who lives in Florida. The one who hangs around here all the time looking shiftless. This so-called kid is already almost 40 and has never had a real job. Maybe I’ll call Kinsley over at The New Republic and see if they’ll hire him as a contributing editor or something. That looks like easy work.‘
~ Ronald Reagan diaries

…priceless!!! *g*

could we give like credit to Nancy for this being released?

katymine @ 97

I nominate Gen. Wesley Clark for the job… think he has a little experience with giving orders and maintaining discipline.

Sec. of Defence!!! …and Richardson at State!!! ;-)

I have one too… Howard Shanker who is running against Rick Renzi AZ – CD 01

Actually I was thinking of Amb Joe Wilson for Sec State, Richardson could do energy/interior.

reverse spine-ectomy.

HA!

Well as someone who has had their brain removed, put in a box and then replaced, I probably could tell them a thing or too about replacement body parts. Oh, and if you are interested in replacement spines, see Dr. Crusher. I think she got one for Worf.

katymine @ 104

Actually I was thinking of Amb Joe Wilson for Sec State, Richardson could do energy/interior.

we’d need someone at the UN.

I do not think any of the ‘frontrunners’ in the presidential race will accept cabinet positions – or a vp slot. just my humble opinion.

katymine @ 98

Good pick ET… hey did you get my facebook msg?

apparently not. just went through them, and nada…

Ed*ard Teller @ 108

katymine @ 98

Good pick ET… hey did you get my facebook msg?

apparently not. just went through them, and nada…

dang, must be user error… still do not have a”f” next to my katymine??? :(

yellowdog jim @ 106

katymine @ 104

Actually I was thinking of Amb Joe Wilson for Sec State, Richardson could do energy/interior.

we’d need someone at the UN.

how about Valerie Plame Wilson for DIA.

katymine @ 104

Actually I was thinking of Amb Joe Wilson for Sec State, Richardson could do energy/interior.

I could go for that and Biden or Dodd at the UN!!!

Ohhh my favorite … Fantasy Administrations… ever since West Wing was canceled…. it has been a popular game among my fellow grassrooters.

katymine @ 109

Ed*ard Teller @ 108

apparently not. just went through them, and nada…

dang, must be user error… still do not have a”f” next to my katymine??? :(

Try signing back into FDL via the meta link next to comment 19 on the far right margin. Depending on your browser settings, closing your browser may sign you out – which will cause you to have to sign back in.

katymine @ 112

Ohhh my favorite … Fantasy Administrations… ever since West Wing was canceled…. it has been a popular game among my fellow grassrooters.

Gotta dream big, Katy…!!! ;-)

katymine @ 109

dang, must be user error… still do not have a”f” next to my katymine??? :(

How do you get an “f”?

katymine says
August 21st, 2007 at 11:08 pm

I nominate Gen. Wesley Clark for the job… think he has a little experience with giving orders and maintaining discipline.

Hmmm? How about message discipline? It’s so crazy it might just work! It can be done, part of maintaining a message is education of the people transmitting them.

I think the right assumes that the left operates the way they do with messages so for example they think we all take our orders from Kos (or Jane) but as usual they are projecting their own experience onto us. (Actually I take my orders from Captain Kirk, but that another story)

I think that when we hear someone who articulates a message the best we can all say, “Yes, that’s it! Let’s talk about this issue THIS way.”

Now on the right they do this identifying the message and then testing it with Frank Luntz and focus groups in secret. Then roll it out to the public.

Hey, Katymine,

My 18-yo son is over in Cordova for his first time. With three girls. He’s exploring parts of Alaska he’s not been to before in the week between the end of his summer job and the start of his first year of college. McCarthy, Cordova, the Copper River flats.

Teh Law-Breaker-in-Chief

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/…..p;refer=us

Me3 @ 115

katymine @ 109

dang, must be user error… still do not have a”f” next to my katymine??? :(

How do you get an “f”?

Do you have a facebook account?

spocko @ 116

katymine says
August 21st, 2007 at 11:08 pm

I nominate Gen. Wesley Clark for the job… think he has a little experience with giving orders and maintaining discipline.

Hmmm? How about message discipline? It’s so crazy it might just work! It can be done, part of maintaining a message is education of the people transmitting them.

I think the right assumes that the left operates the way they do with messages so for example they think we all take our orders from Kos (or Jane) but as usual they are projecting their own experience onto us. (Actually I take my orders from Captain Kirk, but that another story)

I think that when we hear someone who articulates a message the best we can all say, “Yes, that’s it! Let’s talk about this issue THIS way.”

Now on the right they do this identifying the message and then testing it with Frank Luntz and focus groups in secret. Then roll it out to the public.

that’s so true it’s funny.
i take my orders from Jesus General.

we all should.

My 18-yo son is over in Cordova for his first time. With three girls. He’s exploring parts of

….

Alaska?

He’s exploring parts of ALASKA?

Well… Good for him. ;-)

YDJ, i blogged your comment from the diaries over at my place – and noted it came from you.

Hope that was ok with you – (head hanging in shame) I neglected to get permission from you ahead of time, for which I am sorry.

OH ET has he been out to the glacier? Lordy that was impressive. We were out there most of the afternoon watching that dang thing calve, popping and groaning over and over.

Had great dinner at some place by the marina with pickup trucks with campaign signs on them for Democrats too

CTuttle @ 119

How do you get an “f”?

Do you have a facebook account?

Yep

YDJ, do you still have the how to get f’d instructions for me3?

Suzanne @ 122

YDJ, i blogged your comment from the diaries over at my place – and noted it came from you.

Hope that was ok with you – (head hanging in shame) I neglected to get permission from you ahead of time, for which I am sorry.

pish posh.
i’m honored.
i might get traffic!
i hope you could see the link for where i got it from: HERE

my dream cabinet:

State – Jimmy Carter
Defense – Mahatma Gandhi
Treasury – Timothy Leary
Commerce – Angela Davis
Education – Rudolf Steiner
Energy – Nikola Tesla
Transportation – Burt Rutan
Faith-based initiatives – Mother Theresa
Drug Czar – William F. Buckley
Press Secretary – Amy Goodman
CIA – Valerie
UN – Barbara Boxer

x174 @ 118

Teh Law-Breaker-in-Chief

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/…..p;refer=us

“…a federal judge ruled, rejecting a White House claim that compliance with a law requiring the studies is discretionary.”

It is truly sad how far this Maladministration refuses to release anything!!!

spocko @ 121

My 18-yo son is over in Cordova for his first time. With three girls. He’s exploring parts of

….

Alaska?

He’s exploring parts of ALASKA?

Well… Good for him. ;-)

we live here. 10:30 and getting dark…

I have a facebook page but never created a login for FDL, so will see if this works..

DANG… the dog already is in bed asleep… right smack in the middle…. grumble grumble

YDJ, yes, I included that link in my post. Thanks (whew)

Ed*ard Teller @ 127

my dream cabinet:

State – Jimmy Carter
Defense – Mahatma Gandhi
Treasury – Timothy Leary
Commerce – Angela Davis
Education – Rudolf Steiner
Energy – Nikola Tesla
Transportation – Burt Rutan
Faith-based initiatives – Mother Theresa
Drug Czar – William F. Buckley
Press Secretary – Amy Goodman
CIA – Valerie
UN – Barbara Boxer

Timothy Leary in charge of the treasury? Are you tripping or what?!!! ;-)

katymine @ 130

I have a facebook page but never created a login for FDL, so will see if this works..

DANG… the dog already is in bed asleep… right smack in the middle…. grumble grumble

ok, so you will have to have a password mailed to you… ydj has great instructions on how to do it (hopefully he posts them)

katymine @ 123

OH ET has he been out to the glacier? Lordy that was impressive. We were out there most of the afternoon watching that dang thing calve, popping and groaning over and over.

Had great dinner at some place by the marina with pickup trucks with campaign signs on them for Democrats too

Yeeah. He sent me this video from the glacier.

Just kidding.

Suzanne @ 125

YDJ, do you still have the how to get f’d instructions for me3?

not with me, but should be able to wing it:
with the FB account we next register at the meta box, and then we await the emailed password, right?
and then we …. then we use the personal FB profile page URL as your address in the Meta registration …

so maybe you have to do that before you get the Meta password e-mail?

i sure know how to inspire confidence, don’t i?

Kucinich – Formerly know as Department of Defense and know known as Dept of Peace.

CTuttle @ 132

Timothy Leary in charge of the treasury? Are you tripping or what?!!! ;-)

It would be a trip. I dunno, maybe put him in charge of NASA. Sometimes I feel that everyone running our government is on drugs. Other times I feel they need some sort of psychedelic experience to pull them out of terminal malaise.

yellowdog jim @ 135

Suzanne @ 125

YDJ, do you still have the how to get f’d instructions for me3?

not with me, but should be able to wing it:
with the FB account we next register at the meta box, and then we await the emailed password, right?
and then we …. then we use the personal FB profile page URL as your address in the Meta registration …

so maybe you have to do that before you get the Meta password e-mail?

i sure know how to inspire confidence, don’t i?

I think the first thing is to register, which causes the software to then auto-email you a password. When you get that, log in and your profile page will come up. You can then change your password AND put your facebook URL in the spot indicated for facebook page and then you are f’d.

yellowdog jim @ 135

Suzanne @ 125

YDJ, do you still have the how to get f’d instructions for me3?

not with me, but should be able to wing it:
with the FB account we next register at the meta box, and then we await the emailed password, right?
and then we …. then we use the personal FB profile page URL as your address in the Meta registration …

so maybe you have to do that before you get the Meta password e-mail?

i sure know how to inspire confidence, don’t i?

Ya wavered a bit, the FDL meta is for a WP account, which needs the FB URL to establish, WP emails the password, and look in your junk e-mail box too!!!

All set with Facebook… ET you have mail

Here is my picture of the Child’s Glacer Cordova AK
http://img213.imageshack.us/im…..061qi9.jpg

katymine,

got your message. That must be Alaska, not Crete, right?

katymine @ 103

I have one too… Howard Shanker who is running against Rick Renzi AZ – CD 01

That’s the district I used to live in, for 17 years! I hope Shanker can win. Renzi is a wingnut.

Bob in HI

katymine @ 140

All set with Facebook… ET you have mail

Here is my picture of the Child’s Glacer Cordova AK
http://img213.imageshack.us/im…..061qi9.jpg

katymine, you are properly f’d now – and i just sent ya a friend request

That was the Grand Canyon in February – it over 7,500 feet elevation and it snowed frequently!

spocko @ 75

I often think about what to do with the attacks launched at all of our candidates. I think that only the blogosphere can effectively push back on them. We have to fight the “crazy-smear-to-Drudge-to-right-wing-radio-and cable” pipeline. After it gets to them the papers have to do a “it’s out there” story. I think we can help short circuit the process.

I think we need more focus on exposing Drudge as a propaganda operation like what’s been done with Fox. Once we pushed the candidates to drop the Fox debates and stop going on Fox because they’re clearly working for the Republicans, it has started to become conventional wisdom that they’re a propaganda operation. Sure, we’ve known that for years, but their entire success (like that of the Washington Times and others) is based on the fiction that everyone else is biased, and they’re just “fair.”

I was horrified to see on Countdown the bogus story of Michelle Obama’s supposed “attack” on Hillary. Okay, it wasn’t Keith, but his guest host asked her guests to comment about how this story spread from a Chicago Sun-Times columnist to Drudge to “all the media bloggers” (and in an earlier reference “reverberating throughout the blogosphere”, which is rather different — I suspect “media bloggers” means house blogs like Swampland.)

The only proper response if Drudge is involved should be “Drudge is a conservative smear operation, so if something appears there presented in a way that is damaging to a Democrat, it’s fair to assume that was deliberate.” Apparently media people like getting stories on Drudge because it gets them “eyeballs.” It’s up to us to make sure it gets them shame, too, and encourage candidates and officials to push back so that the original writer finds themselves apologizing for writing something slanted enough for Drudge, or explaining how he distorted their story.

Drudge is no more a legitimate news outlet than Fox is, and any time his name appears in the story of how a smear spread, he should immediately be made the subject of the story.

katymine @ 140

All set with Facebook… ET you have mail

Here is my picture of the Child’s Glacer Cordova AK
http://img213.imageshack.us/im…..061qi9.jpg

Crete’s changed.

katymine @ 140

All set with Facebook… ET you have mail

Here is my picture of the Child’s Glacer Cordova AK
http://img213.imageshack.us/im…..061qi9.jpg

Yep, that’s the iceface. The youtube link I posted is of some guys surfing the wave off a huge calving off of Childs.

katymine @ 140

All set with Facebook… ET you have mail

Here is my picture of the Child’s Glacer Cordova AK
http://img213.imageshack.us/im…..061qi9.jpg

Ya got a friend request…!!!

ET, I saw that video on KO – dang

Ed*ard Teller @ 147

katymine @ 140

All set with Facebook… ET you have mail

Here is my picture of the Child’s Glacer Cordova AK
http://img213.imageshack.us/im…..061qi9.jpg

Yep, that’s the iceface. The youtube link I posted is of some guys surfing the wave off a huge calving off of Childs.

Speaking of tripping… many Hawaiians were shaking their heads at those ‘waves’!!!

how’s Me3 doing for the FB blue icon “f”?

CTuttle @ 139

yellowdog jim @ 135

not with me, but should be able to wing it:
with the FB account we next register at the meta box, and then we await the emailed password, right?
and then we …. then we use the personal FB profile page URL as your address in the Meta registration …

so maybe you have to do that before you get the Meta password e-mail?

i sure know how to inspire confidence, don’t i?

Ya wavered a bit, the FDL meta is for a WP account, which needs the FB URL to establish, WP emails the password, and look in your junk e-mail box too!!!

yea, i needed the help there, pardner.
thanks.

Oh, my!

Reuters:

T-rex versus Beckham? Sorry, David, you’re lunch
Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:20PM EDT

“Our research, which used the minimum leg-muscle mass T-rex required for movement, suggests that while not incredibly fast, this carnivore was certainly capable of running and would have little difficulty in chasing down footballer David Beckham, for instance,” said Phil Manning, a paleontologist at the University of Manchester, who worked on the study.

I’m not even sure how to feel about this.

yellowdog jim @ 135

but should be able to wing it:
with the FB account we next register at the meta box, and then we await the emailed password, right?
and then we …. then we use the personal FB profile page URL as your address in the Meta registration …

so maybe you have to do that before you get the Meta password e-mail?

i sure know how to inspire confidence, don’t i?

OK, I found the meta box, registered (I am logged in right now), got my password of course and updated my profile. The profile has a window for a FB link, so I put my profile link (as best as I can figure, I copied it out of the address window when I was logged into FB and on my profile page).

Let’s see…

I’d say a speed of 18mph is pretty darn good, TRex.

Me3 @ 154

yellowdog jim @ 135

but should be able to wing it:
with the FB account we next register at the meta box, and then we await the emailed password, right?
and then we …. then we use the personal FB profile page URL as your address in the Meta registration …

so maybe you have to do that before you get the Meta password e-mail?

i sure know how to inspire confidence, don’t i?

OK, I found the meta box, registered (I am logged in right now), got my password of course and updated my profile. The profile has a window for a FB link, so I put my profile link (as best as I can figure, I copied it out of the address window when I was logged into FB and on my profile page).

Let’s see…

Right on, Bro, yer f’ed!!! ;-) Ya gotta friend request!

Ok here is my Crete picture … this is the farthest south-east in the whole of Europe.

http://img501.imageshack.us/my…..094cy2.jpg

Enjoy…

Me3 @ 154

yellowdog jim @ 135

but should be able to wing it:
with the FB account we next register at the meta box, and then we await the emailed password, right?
and then we …. then we use the personal FB profile page URL as your address in the Meta registration …

so maybe you have to do that before you get the Meta password e-mail?

i sure know how to inspire confidence, don’t i?

OK, I found the meta box, registered (I am logged in right now), got my password of course and updated my profile. The profile has a window for a FB link, so I put my profile link (as best as I can figure, I copied it out of the address window when I was logged into FB and on my profile page).

Let’s see…

woohoo, it worked, me3, you are f’d now – and have a pending friend request from me :)

Did you hear the silly rumor running around… have heard it repeated on Air America… that Facebook was created by the CIA to get all our personal info… thought I was going to fall over laughing.

Gee I thought that what MySpace was!

Hello… am I all by myself now….. sniff… sniff

katymine @ 159

Did you hear the silly rumor running around… have heard it repeated on Air America… that Facebook was created by the CIA to get all our personal info… thought I was going to fall over laughing.

Gee I thought that what MySpace was!

It matters not, with the internet trunks going thru the NSA, it all gets recorded. If you would not like to see it published on the front page of your home town newspaper with credit to your legal name… Don’t say it online.

katymine @ 160

Hello… am I all by myself now….. sniff… sniff

No, Ma’am!!!

katymine @ 160

Hello… am I all by myself now….. sniff… sniff

You are not all by yourself :-x

me3, don’t forget to join the FDL group and the FDL Late Nite Pups group

Thought I was talking to myself… Did you see my Crete picture?

found them!

How to get yourself your own little bitty ‘f’ beside your name, too!

the Original instructions from Jane’s poodle Kobe:
here.

I was putting the dog to bed. He’s so spoiled. Had to wait for the end of Seinfeld, which he likes a lot more than Stewart or Colbert.

katymine, i’m still here for a wee bit

Me3 @ 154

yellowdog jim @ 135

but should be able to wing it:
with the FB account we next register at the meta box, and then we await the emailed password, right?
and then we …. then we use the personal FB profile page URL as your address in the Meta registration …

so maybe you have to do that before you get the Meta password e-mail?

i sure know how to inspire confidence, don’t i?

OK, I found the meta box, registered (I am logged in right now), got my password of course and updated my profile. The profile has a window for a FB link, so I put my profile link (as best as I can figure, I copied it out of the address window when I was logged into FB and on my profile page).

Let’s see…

EXCELLENT!
you’ve earned an “f”.
and a friend request.
this is the only warning you’ll get.

Suzanne @ 164

me3, don’t forget to join the FDL group and the FDL Late Nite Pups group

I think I got those covered. I saw the invite from CT, but not from you :(

FB is running really slow… And I am getting page errors.

TRex @ 153

Oh, my!

Reuters:

T-rex versus Beckham? Sorry, David, you’re lunch
Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:20PM EDT

“Our research, which used the minimum leg-muscle mass T-rex required for movement, suggests that while not incredibly fast, this carnivore was certainly capable of running and would have little difficulty in chasing down footballer David Beckham, for instance,” said Phil Manning, a paleontologist at the University of Manchester, who worked on the study.

I’m not even sure how to feel about this.

Do they talk about what you’d do with him once you’d chased him down?

My dog turned 13 this May and was diagnosed with end stage heart failure just a week before my BIG Greek adventure.

Thankfully the drugs are working but the silly beagle wants to go for a walk in the evenings. It was 108 today and humid, silly thing would of gone into congestive heart failure in two blocks. Sit here and ignore her and she finally goes to sleep in the middle of my bed[na I do not spoil her really I don’t ;)]

Cant get the late night pup link to work

Hi Teddy… {{{{{{{Hug Teddy}}}}}}

And Hi to Patrick too….
We killed Facebook…. OMG

FB and fdl both – toobz clogged. Where’s Ted Stevens with his bottle of liquid plumber when we need him?

katymine @ 157

Ok here is my Crete picture … this is the farthest south-east in the whole of Europe.

http://img501.imageshack.us/my…..094cy2.jpg

Enjoy…

That’s not how I imagined Crete looking. Scrumptious!

Yea, it was running very very slow to me too me3 (and i’m on dialup so i know slow) – finally got it sent.. you should have it any minute now

Bedtime at our house, see you tomorrow sometime!

g’nite teddy…

i’m gonna head out too – hoping this headache (and all its aftereffects) are completely gone when i wake up.

Me too…. gee I have to work tomorrow….. and my ruff commute ….. walk 5 feet, hard right turn and another 10 feet and I am at work.

TeddySanFran @ 171

TRex @ 153

Oh, my!

Reuters:

I’m not even sure how to feel about this.

Do they talk about what you’d do with him once you’d chased him down?

hahahahahaha …

Well g’nite guys. I am gonna get some food and will check the overnight markets and news later.

Fred Thompson looks a lot like a Hollywood version of Nikita Kruschev…

Ed*ard Teller @ 174

FB and fdl both – toobz clogged. Where’s Ted Stevens with his bottle of liquid plumber when we need him?

Speaking of Ted what’s the latest on his travails?

Me3 @ 181

Well g’nite guys. I am gonna get some food and will check the overnight markets and news later.

Nite, Me3!!!

katymine @ 179

Me too…. gee I have to work tomorrow….. and my ruff commute ….. walk 5 feet, hard right turn and another 10 feet and I am at work.

Nite, Katy!!!

Suzanne @ 178

g’nite teddy…

i’m gonna head out too – hoping this headache (and all its aftereffects) are completely gone when i wake up.

Bon Nuit, Ma Cheri!!!

Dang, the Lake shrunk suddenly! Hmmm…

Oooo…

My new handle is already a Google legacy!

CTuttle @ 187

Dang, the Lake shrunk suddenly! Hmmm…

take care, CT.
i’m out, too.

Ahs well, I shall bid a fond adieu to the Lake! Aloha Oe!!!

Hi.

This is a test. I just tried to post something and it vanished into thin air…

Astral Technician @ 190

Hi.

This is a test. I just tried to post something and it vanished into thin air…

If at first you don’t succeed…

Astral Technician @ 190

Hi.

This is a test. I just tried to post something and it vanished into thin air…

Driveby on my way to bed – I saw it was caught in the spam filters (not sure why) and freed it. I deleted the second identical post. Refresh the page and it should be there

Boom shifts to foreclosures – Chicago Tribune – 52 minutes ago

MSNBC: US foreclosures rise 58 percent in first half of 2007

Home loan failures soar 93% from ‘06 [2 hrs ago]

Market is going to open down… Imagine how all these people are going to feel as the market goes up, the economy is “booming”, and banks are setting them out on the street.

LOL, it makes me wonder about the corruption involved in bundling and pricing this paper into securities.

Bush cares no more about homeowners tho, than those who could not or would not leave New Orleans.

“Fourteen US Troops Die in Blackhawk Crash in Northern Iraq”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..mi_ea/iraq

Meanwhile Bush compares Iraq occupation to Japan, Korea and Vietnam

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..pr_wh/bush

Ignoring that in one the occupation occurred in a homogenous society with no real opposition. And in Vietnam and Korea the US fatalities were over 50,000 and there was not overt civil wars in the territories the US occupied (even despite the VC efforts). But it looks as if Bush is willing to have this country in Iraq for decades, with escalating military deaths, and pouring mre of our trillions into “winning”.

And he has no second-thoughts about the invasion at all…ignoring the destruction of the society and half-million dead and 4 million refugees…despite his listing of consequences of his mistake.

Looks like he’s set to take no responsibility and is already getting ready to blame the Democrats (and the Iraqi government HE SET UP)for his errors of judgement. Nothing said about not locking down Saddam’s weapons and ammo depots, his failure to control the borders, the utter failure to plan for a political system before the war, the reliance on the advice of Iraqi exiles, lack of consideration of the ethnic issues, the loss of US weapons given to an Iraqi Defense Force with questionable loyalties, etc.

How typical of the “pass the buck” in Chief.

Bush ties anti-war forces in the Vietnam era to the hundreds of thousands of people killed in the aftermath of the US pull-out, and hints at a parallel disaster in Iraq if US forces leave too soon.”Many argued that if we pulled out, there would be no consequences for the Vietnamese people,” he was to say. “The world would learn just how costly these misimpressions would be.”"In Cambodia, the Khmer Rouge began a murderous rule in which hundreds of thousands of Cambodians died by starvation, torture, or execution.

Someone should tell clusterf*ck that it was the U.S, bombing of Cambodia that led to the collapse of the Cambodian monarchy and the rise of the Khmer Rouge. We never “occupied” Cambodia and did shite to protect them . Of course, he never “served” in Vietnam, protecting us from the evils of Communist invasion from across the Gulf of Mexico.

None of which would have happened if we hadn’t had the massive interventionist role in Viet Nam that we took on. In addition the US did jack when it came to doing anything to assist the relocation of those boat-people…we rescued a few of the elite Generals and businessmen.

Bush has offered NO visas to the translators or their families in Iraq who daily face death threats and pretty much have to live in the Green Zone. The situation in Iraq ALREADY is so dire that they cannot be safe ANYWHERE else. And over 4 million refugees already exist in Iraq and the surrounding States. The Grand Total of Iraqis that have been allowed into the US? A paltery 4000…most with relatives who already US citizens!

So much for the “compassionate Conservative” who is now acting so “concerned” about the consequences of his war! Why he didn’t think at all about any of this is the REAL QUESTION. He didn’t plan for anything other than his fairy-tale dream of a compliant Iraqi population that would allow his contractors extract their resources without a peep. He never bothered to learn about the ethnic differences or all the other “hard stuff” that the academics kept warning his administration about. He was the “Decider” and his mind was made up. Now, because the people of the US are sick of his lies and his war…it’s cost on the military, the economy (except the war profiteers), the role of the US in the world, etc. he starts to blame “anybody but Bush” for his quagmire.

Bush needs to grow up and face the reality that Iraq was his “baby”.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..JygYGs0NUE

Someone tell T-Rex…Amy Winehouse is cancelling her North American tour! I suspect that this means Ms. Winehouse is dealing with her problems in a vigorous manner…so I guess we can handle a little delayed gratification.

Me3 @ 194

Boom shifts to foreclosures – Chicago Tribune – 52 minutes ago

MSNBC: US foreclosures rise 58 percent in first half of 2007

Home loan failures soar 93% from ‘06 [2 hrs ago]

Market is going to open down… Imagine how all these people are going to feel as the market goes up, the economy is “booming”, and banks are setting them out on the street.

The Asian overnight markets looked like they were responding yesterday to both the Feds lowering of the T-2 Interest rates, as well as the massive infusion of currency into their lending banks…but
today the markets have retreated. The interventions don’t look like they have worked as more than a band-aid.

Watch what the US Markets do in the next few hours…could get interesting.

cinnamonape @ 198

Watch what the US Markets do in the next few hours…could get interesting.

In the short term, there will be more ups and downs, thrills and chills, lots of volatility, depending upon short-term gov’t intervention policies.

But, as Roubini has said, this isn’t simply a credit crunch, in which the cause is insufficient liquidity. The credit crunch, now, is an effect, not a cause, so the long-term scenario is still going to be ugly. If the underlying cause is massive debt/insolvency, biting the bullet and writing all that off is going to be very painful, and it’s going to take months for it to shake out.

This is not something that’s going to go away in a few days, or a week or two, and everything gets back to whatever the hell normal is these days. I expect to see incoming flak for months.

Go Large Angry Lesbians! And all you foul-mouthed fem-bloggers and those who love them! *high five*

Good morning, pups. Mr. Friedman is alone behind the NYT firewall today, writing about a proposal by the Chairman of Duke Energy in North Carolina that would reward utilities for efficiency.

http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/

The coffee and tea are ready, and I’ve got a selection of bagels and LOTS of cream cheese. (I think a bagel is pretty much nothing more than an efficient cream cheese delivery system.) Have a great day.

Paragraph one from the lead article in the Savannah Daily Disappointment today:

“The number of foreclosure filings reported in the U.S. last month jumped 93 percent from July 2006 and rose 9 percent from June, the latest sign that homeowners are having trouble making payments and finding buyers during the national housing downturn.”

(Emphasis mine.) The subhead of the article read “Georgia, Michigan, Nevada account for highest number of filings.” Well. There’s a real buzzkill for you…

Joe Scarbrough is smoking some nontobacco products 14 dead in a helicopter crash today in Iraq, but Joe is impressed with just how well the surge is going. Doesn’t MSNBC do drug tests on the talent?

Good morning everybody!

g’mornin’

things come undone, I trust you are using the word “talent” ironically…

Good morningMarion in Savannah @ 201

Good morning, pups. Mr. Friedman is alone behind the NYT firewall today, writing about a proposal by the Chairman of Duke Energy in North Carolina that would reward utilities for efficiency.

http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/

The coffee and tea are ready, and I’ve got a selection of bagels and LOTS of cream cheese. (I think a bagel is pretty much nothing more than an efficient cream cheese delivery system.) Have a great day.

I’m all for rewarding efficiency. Let’s have a $150/ton (about $15/a barrel) CO2 tax and then any fuel you don’t burn isn’t taxed. That’s a reward for efficiency.

This WaPo page 2 article on the WH manual for suppressing protesters will get some attention today:

White House Manual Details How to Deal With Protesters

And it begins and ends with snark! That’s probably why it’s on page 2.

14 US Troops die in chopper crash.

First Hilary wants to keep troops in Iraq, now she thinks the Surge is going great? I think Hilary is one step away from Sister Souljahing the Left. Why is she still trying to win the 30%ers?
This can not be about getting the center anymore to win an election since 70% of Americans want the war to end.
No…sadly I fear Hilary is now about winning the Presidency and then dragging the nation to the right.
She wants to keep troops in Iraq against 70% of the voters desires.
She wants a public private healthcare system of private sector costs and government enforced monopoly.
Healthcare is the second biggest issue after ending the war her postion on healthcare is a comprimise with the healthcare industry.
A comprimise against the desires and interests of the majority of voters.
However the military industrial complex and the healthcare industry I’m sure will be happy. The puppet MSM however is getting whiplash over the sudden change in Hilary’s newscoverage from bad to good. I think I saw Pat Buchannon praise her a week or two ago? Is Newt next on the pro Hilary bandwagon.
An old Mexican saying my Mom told me was tell me who your friends are and I’ll tell you who you are. Hilary’s extremist postions on the issues worry me, Hilary’s new friends worry me and I’m not going to wait to be Sister Souljahed.
Until she stops acting crazy she’s out of my village!

Marion in Savannah @ 206

things come undone, I trust you are using the word “talent” ironically…

Yes

things come undone @ 203

Joe Scarbrough is smoking some nontobacco products 14 dead in a helicopter crash today in Iraq, but Joe is impressed with just how well the surge is going. Doesn’t MSNBC do drug tests on the talent?

Marion in Savannah @ 206

things come undone, I trust you are using the word “talent” ironically…

Maybe MSNBC is testing drugs ON the talent.

Good morning Marion! 67 and gonna be 98. No rain yesterday, just teasing clouds..ya’ll stay cool.

things come undone @ 210

An old Mexican saying my Mom told me was tell me who your friends are and I’ll tell you who you are.

Which is no different by the more Anglo saying, “you’re known by the company you keep.”

HRC didn’t see anything wrong in having Rupert Murdoch throw her a couple of campaign parties, but, I think that falls into the category of the “company you keep.” :)

And, lord knows, she hasn’t been hangin’ with Cindy Sheehan….

from Juan Cole

When pressed on the future of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, Bush declined to back him as forcefully as in the past. He said it was up to the Iraqis to decide. I don’t think things look good for al-Maliki.

Al-Quds al-`Arabi reports in Arabic that Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani is “disgusted” with the al-Maliki government. He complains that it has ‘filled his heart with pus’ by donning his robes and then neglecting to establish security or provide services to the people.

If Sistani has soured so badly on al-Maliki, he really could be in trouble. The old man still has enormous moral authority.

And, if both Bush and Sistani have given up on him, it is hard to see how he can survive.

Hillary would probably approve of this and do the same, judging by her comments already on record.

“U.S.: Iran cooperation insufficient” is the Yahoo title. They’re ramping it up some more, just like they did with Iraq. No matter what Iran’s I’madickwad does, it will not be good enough for the neocons. They’ll just keep moving the goalposts.

Different from Iraq, we know there isn’t a dictatorship in Iran and there’s alot of public resistance to the current Prez since his “Party” was rocked in their last elections.

Our current “leaders” are demanding more sanctions for Iran. Why would you want to alienate those people that supported us after 9/11 and are rebelling against their nutcase Prez?!? I have my opinions and they have alot to do with Perpetual War.

What would Hillary do?

things come undone @ 212

things come undone @ 203

Joe Scarbrough is smoking some nontobacco products 14 dead in a helicopter crash today in Iraq, but Joe is impressed with just how well the surge is going. Doesn’t MSNBC do drug tests on the talent?

Marion in Savannah @ 206

things come undone, I trust you are using the word “talent” ironically…

Maybe MSNBC is testing drugs ON the talent.

In Scarborough’s case, I don’t think he needs any. Mental illness provides him with all the paranoia and visions he’d want, and for free….

Good morning, love Beth Ditto and The Gossip.

Ron Paul on Mornin’ Joe…. Joe fed him standard Rethug talking points and he knocked ‘em down one by one…no, 9/11 didn’t change everything. Truth isn’t changed by events. Doesn’t justify destroying civil liberties.

Saddam didn’t attack us on 9/11, Saudis did. Because terrorism is caused by occupation. We were occupying Saudi holy land. He cited Sri Lanka as another example of occupation breeding terrorism.

Interesting. This guy is doomed as a Rethug…. and puts the lie to Hillary’s grand scheme of occupation Bush-style in Iraq.

The economy will still be recovering when Congress gets back in session if we are lucky. We can then end the war by asking Bush to pay for it.
We could get healthcare for everyone by pointing out the billions Bush’s Federal Reserve is giving banks while the banks are evicting people out of their homes.
Billions to save WallStreet but not a penny for a sick child recently made homeless BY THE BANKS BUSH IS GIVING BILLIONS TOO is the kind of poltical slogan we could use to crush the GOP.
If only the center Democrats were not so busy saying the Surge is working.

montag @ 214

things come undone @ 210

An old Mexican saying my Mom told me was tell me who your friends are and I’ll tell you who you are.

Which is no different by the more Anglo saying, “you’re known by the company you keep.”

HRC didn’t see anything wrong in having Rupert Murdoch throw her a couple of campaign parties, but, I think that falls into the category of the “company you keep.” :)

And, lord knows, she hasn’t been hangin’ with Cindy Sheehan….

Democrats won’t debate on Fox because of the lies but Hilary still feels comfortable taking Ruperts money? After ALL the lies Fox has said about her and her husband she takes their money! Has she no pride?

The Gossip’s “Standing in the Way of Control”, because the world can never have too many awesome gay rights/anti-Bush anthems sung by Large Angry Lesbians.

I love that line….

Prairie Sunshine @ 219

Ron Paul on Mornin’ Joe…. Joe fed him standard Rethug talking points and he knocked ‘em down one by one…no, 9/11 didn’t change everything. Truth isn’t changed by events. Doesn’t justify destroying civil liberties.

Saddam didn’t attack us on 9/11, Saudis did. Because terrorism is caused by occupation. We were occupying Saudi holy land. He cited Sri Lanka as another example of occupation breeding terrorism.

Interesting. This guy is doomed as a Rethug…. and puts the lie to Hillary’s grand scheme of occupation Bush-style in Iraq.

Ron Paul should debate Hilary. The democrats like Denise and Richardson should debate their republican counterparts who are also being ignored by the media. It might be the only way the smaller candidates on either side could break from the pack.

things come undone @ 221

Has she no pride?

No pride, no conscience, no hope

Get ready to squirm Democrats:

On Wednesday in Kansas City, Missouri, Bush will tell members of the Veterans of Foreign Wars that “then, as now, people argued that the real problem was America’s presence and that if we would just withdraw, the killing would end,” according to speech excerpts released Tuesday by the White House.

“Three decades later, there is a legitimate debate about how we got into the Vietnam War and how we left,” Bush will say.

“Whatever your position in that debate, one unmistakable legacy of Vietnam is that the price of America’s withdrawal was paid by millions of innocent citizens, whose agonies would add to our vocabulary new terms like ‘boat people,’ ‘re-education camps’ and ‘killing fields,’ ” the president will say.

raven @ 225

Get ready to squirm Democrats:

On Wednesday in Kansas City, Missouri, Bush will tell members of the Veterans of Foreign Wars that “then, as now, people argued that the real problem was America’s presence and that if we would just withdraw, the killing would end,” according to speech excerpts released Tuesday by the White House.

“Three decades later, there is a legitimate debate about how we got into the Vietnam War and how we left,” Bush will say.

“Whatever your position in that debate, one unmistakable legacy of Vietnam is that the price of America’s withdrawal was paid by millions of innocent citizens, whose agonies would add to our vocabulary new terms like ‘boat people,’ ‘re-education camps’ and ‘killing fields,’ ” the president will say.

He should know, he was there wasn’t he?

nomolos @ 226

raven @ 225

Get ready to squirm Democrats:

He should know, he was there wasn’t he?

Right, seen any Charlie’s in Texas?

nomolos @ 224

things come undone @ 221

Has she no pride?

No pride, no conscience, no hope

Which is where I’m afraid we will be if she becomes our nomine.

raven @ 227

nomolos @ 226

He should know, he was there wasn’t he?

Right, seen any Charlie’s in Texas?

They are hiding under the brush in Crawford I do believe

Good morning Everybody,

As fourteen more Americans are killed in a helicopter crash, more American children will go without proper healthcare, and the miners are lost to a cold dark grave, let’s turn our attention to Bush’s base.

Let’s highlight the towns and cities that support this murderous bunch. I hope The Nation’s Max Blumenthal will travel to Red America, Bush’s Base and show us more of their faces. I hope youtube will show us Bush’s Base.

Bush’s Base has to answer for this War, this Occupation and for the Degradation of the US.

I am thoroughly sick of Americans who back these murderers and it’s time to not only make fun of them but to hold them accountable.

We Americans, the 70%, must oppose the 30% who have held America hostage. I am no longer tolerating these people. I despise them and will no longer be polite. They have ruined our country.

In other flying news, flying under the radar.

FAA administrator, Marion Blakey, who has done more to ruin air passenger safety and air traffic controller worker conditions, is abandoning her wingnut welfare job and her pack of slavering lobbyists to – wait for it – take a job as the slavering lobbyists’ leader at the Aerospace Industries Association, where she can now wreak havoc there. Another reward for abominable administrative performance.

More stories on any Faith Based initiatives that get ANY MONEY from the federal government. It is simply payola.

More stories on any Faith Based organizations that help gays become heterosexuals.

More stories on any Red towns that got inordinate amounts of money to protect them from terrah.

Calling all patriots, Scarecrow has a new thread.

Can We Trade Bush/Cheney For Al Maliki?

Bush’s base should pay for this war the oil companies, the weapons companies, Halibutron. I want Senator Webb to propose something to limit the pay of CEO’s like he talked about. I want tax increases to be labeled with names like “the tax to pay for Bush’s war”. Or “the tax to give Iraq war vets healthcare”. I want Republicans to be Very Afraid to vote against our ideas.
I am sick of WallStreet getting money to cover 14 to l insane leverage bets and then hearing Bush blame uneducared consumers for signing the mortgages that “cough” educated bankers made to people who couldn’t afford those loans in the first place.
Bush blames the poor as justifaction for using the American taxpayers money to bail out the rich. Where is Grover Norquist when we need him?

It’s Bush’s Base brought to us by Bush’s Brain.
Enough
Enough
Enough

Bush’s Brain is hard at work.

Babaloo
Thats how I felt after a 1 on 1.
Jo6pac