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		<title>By: toby martin</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/21/incompetence/#comment-913269</link>
		<dc:creator>toby martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The basic inquiry that starts the analysis of every good lawyer and policeman is, “Who benefits?”  Here, it is clear that every “blunder” committed by the Bushies had the direct effect of benefiting one of their most-favored constituencies.  I don’t believe in coincidence to the degree required to believe that this was not a deliberate programmed approach.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Looking at it from a slightly different angle, if facts come out that make you look bad enough in public that some explanation is demanded, would you rather appear to be criminal or would you rather appear to be stupid?  Clearly, stupid has less serious consequences in such a context.  Which is why every shit-faced politician (and all other kinds of evildoers since Reagan perfected the gambit) universally adopt the “I was stupid” defense when cornered.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush and his cronies may be mentally defective in many ways, but nobody is bad at everything, and what these folks excel at is secrecy, scheming, manipulation, and being revoltingly amoral.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The basic inquiry that starts the analysis of every good lawyer and policeman is, “Who benefits?”  Here, it is clear that every “blunder” committed by the Bushies had the direct effect of benefiting one of their most-favored constituencies.  I don’t believe in coincidence to the degree required to believe that this was not a deliberate programmed approach.</p>
<p>Looking at it from a slightly different angle, if facts come out that make you look bad enough in public that some explanation is demanded, would you rather appear to be criminal or would you rather appear to be stupid?  Clearly, stupid has less serious consequences in such a context.  Which is why every shit-faced politician (and all other kinds of evildoers since Reagan perfected the gambit) universally adopt the “I was stupid” defense when cornered.</p>
<p>Bush and his cronies may be mentally defective in many ways, but nobody is bad at everything, and what these folks excel at is secrecy, scheming, manipulation, and being revoltingly amoral.</p>
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		<title>By: Leg</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/21/incompetence/#comment-912239</link>
		<dc:creator>Leg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think impeachment is off the table because if Bush and Cheney were held responsible for their many crimes, our next president would be Nancy Pelosi, and that would take the historic wind out of our frontrunner’s sail.  We don’t need to wait until 2009 to have a woman president and we certainly don’t need to wait more than 20 years to have a president whose name is not Bush or Clinton.&lt;br /&gt;
Gore/Obama 2008&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think impeachment is off the table because if Bush and Cheney were held responsible for their many crimes, our next president would be Nancy Pelosi, and that would take the historic wind out of our frontrunner’s sail.  We don’t need to wait until 2009 to have a woman president and we certainly don’t need to wait more than 20 years to have a president whose name is not Bush or Clinton.<br />
Gore/Obama 2008</p>
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		<title>By: Mike in Mke</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/21/incompetence/#comment-912213</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike in Mke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For what it is worth I have renamed the party the ” Republicant’s”. Simply put, they can’t do anything right.(9/11, Katrina, Delay, Foley, Nay, Iraq, immigration, etc.) But now that I have perused the other posts here it is a real possibility that these crooks have intentionally hood winked,  stumbled and fumbled their way to the pot of gold. Just remember the R mantra -”Greed is Good.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it is worth I have renamed the party the ” Republicant’s”. Simply put, they can’t do anything right.(9/11, Katrina, Delay, Foley, Nay, Iraq, immigration, etc.) But now that I have perused the other posts here it is a real possibility that these crooks have intentionally hood winked,  stumbled and fumbled their way to the pot of gold. Just remember the R mantra -”Greed is Good.”</p>
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		<title>By: ITSa</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/21/incompetence/#comment-911978</link>
		<dc:creator>ITSa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is a theory that Bush and the GOP only pretend to be incompetent,…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Then like an old Mafia Don, pretending to be insane for decades, Dumbya has only been pretending to be incompetent since at least his college days and business “career”? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now that’s some deep cover.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a theory that Bush and the GOP only pretend to be incompetent,…</p>
<p> Then like an old Mafia Don, pretending to be insane for decades, Dumbya has only been pretending to be incompetent since at least his college days and business “career”? </p>
<p>Now that’s some deep cover.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/21/incompetence/#comment-911971</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You forgot this possibility - it’s the mantra of most of the Democrats today:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Talk often and loudly, and carry a very, very, very small stick (a pin needle will do).&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot this possibility &#8211; it’s the mantra of most of the Democrats today:</p>
<p><b>Talk often and loudly, and carry a very, very, very small stick (a pin needle will do).</b></p>
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		<title>By: Heraclitus</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/21/incompetence/#comment-911968</link>
		<dc:creator>Heraclitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-911073&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Eli @ 122&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-911064&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Heraclitus @ 111&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Thanks!  Sure, I understand that the DLC is all about the corporate agenda, but how does, say, the FISA “reform” do anything for corporations?  Only thing I can think of is that it lets the telcos off a potential legal hook.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t really know.  A few possibilities come to mind:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. It’s probably simplistic and paranoid to think that a single explanation covers all events.  Perhaps the DLC caved becase they believe their own propaganda about COWARDICE=COURAGE, not because they have a material corporate interest in the spy state.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. Perhaps there is a corporate interest in developing the techniques.  In my field of work spying technology has nearly sucked up all the oxygen for research and development.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3. Perhaps the conscious or unconscious consensus among corporate elites is that more control will be necessary and the government will be their arm of enforcement until CorpSeCorps (see Margaret Atwood’s Oryx and Crake) AKA Blackwater can do the job.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Or maybe they did just fuck up the parliamentary process.  But I doubt it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-911073"><em>Eli @ 122</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-911064"><em>Heraclitus @ 111</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>
Thanks!  Sure, I understand that the DLC is all about the corporate agenda, but how does, say, the FISA “reform” do anything for corporations?  Only thing I can think of is that it lets the telcos off a potential legal hook.</p>
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<p>I don’t really know.  A few possibilities come to mind:</p>
<p>1. It’s probably simplistic and paranoid to think that a single explanation covers all events.  Perhaps the DLC caved becase they believe their own propaganda about COWARDICE=COURAGE, not because they have a material corporate interest in the spy state.</p>
<p>2. Perhaps there is a corporate interest in developing the techniques.  In my field of work spying technology has nearly sucked up all the oxygen for research and development.  </p>
<p>3. Perhaps the conscious or unconscious consensus among corporate elites is that more control will be necessary and the government will be their arm of enforcement until CorpSeCorps (see Margaret Atwood’s Oryx and Crake) AKA Blackwater can do the job.</p>
<p>Or maybe they did just fuck up the parliamentary process.  But I doubt it.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoot</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/21/incompetence/#comment-911966</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-910948&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;quake @ 16&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Remember all that eavesdropping the NSA did?  Well it seems fairly obvious thay  &lt;b&gt;could&lt;/b&gt; have acquired enough damaging information to blackmail a large number of Blue Dogs and media people, who thus would become complete putty in the hands of the Bushites.  Why haven’t you considered this possibility?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh my god.  It is pretty obvious, once you point it out.  That does explain a lot.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-910948"><em>quake @ 16</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Remember all that eavesdropping the NSA did?  Well it seems fairly obvious thay  <b>could</b> have acquired enough damaging information to blackmail a large number of Blue Dogs and media people, who thus would become complete putty in the hands of the Bushites.  Why haven’t you considered this possibility?</p>
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<p>Oh my god.  It is pretty obvious, once you point it out.  That does explain a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: C Conrad</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/21/incompetence/#comment-911753</link>
		<dc:creator>C Conrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is the reason for Democratic “ineptitude”, “cowardice” etc.  The DO NOT WANT TO WIN.  Why?  If the Ds get the presidency and solid majorities in both houses, they will be forced to put up or lose all future support from their base.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The only reason the Ds have any support at all is that they have fooled a large number of people into thinking that they actually favor progressive policies and would implement them if only they could take power.  They (their leadership, which still leads the party) actually favor pretty much the same policies as the Rs.  They support the bare minimum of progressive figleafs in order to maintain that illusion.  The real function of the party is to prevent a real opposition party from forming (with a huge assist from a severely anti-democratic electoral system).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Democrats have showed great courage and cleverness in standing up for their principles in the face of massive opposition from the base of their party.  This time is very dangerous for them because the Rs have alienated so much of the electorate that the Ds may be put in power with nothing to hide behind.  Look forward to more massive “blunders” and “betrayals”.  The latest Gallup poll has Congress far less popular than Bush.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the reason for Democratic “ineptitude”, “cowardice” etc.  The DO NOT WANT TO WIN.  Why?  If the Ds get the presidency and solid majorities in both houses, they will be forced to put up or lose all future support from their base.</p>
<p>The only reason the Ds have any support at all is that they have fooled a large number of people into thinking that they actually favor progressive policies and would implement them if only they could take power.  They (their leadership, which still leads the party) actually favor pretty much the same policies as the Rs.  They support the bare minimum of progressive figleafs in order to maintain that illusion.  The real function of the party is to prevent a real opposition party from forming (with a huge assist from a severely anti-democratic electoral system).</p>
<p>The Democrats have showed great courage and cleverness in standing up for their principles in the face of massive opposition from the base of their party.  This time is very dangerous for them because the Rs have alienated so much of the electorate that the Ds may be put in power with nothing to hide behind.  Look forward to more massive “blunders” and “betrayals”.  The latest Gallup poll has Congress far less popular than Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/21/incompetence/#comment-911746</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-911177&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Eli @ 221&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-911175&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;test1 @ 215&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Eli,&lt;br /&gt;
Who, or what, is “RoGiv” in the 3rd paragraph of the item?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Robin Givhan, style writer at WaPo.  I believe she broke the Terribly Important News Flash (so to speak) about Hillary’s cleavage.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Will she break the news about Freddie Thompsons “cleavage”  (and I’m not referring to his trophy wife).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-911177"><em>Eli @ 221</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-911175"><em>test1 @ 215</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Eli,<br />
Who, or what, is “RoGiv” in the 3rd paragraph of the item?</p>
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<p>Robin Givhan, style writer at WaPo.  I believe she broke the Terribly Important News Flash (so to speak) about Hillary’s cleavage.</p>
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<p>Will she break the news about Freddie Thompsons “cleavage”  (and I’m not referring to his trophy wife).</p>
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		<title>By: myiq2xu</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/21/incompetence/#comment-911743</link>
		<dc:creator>myiq2xu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 07:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I sometimes find myself wishing that it would turn out that George W. Bush was really a Lex Luthor type evil genius and was only pretending to be a doofus.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not only would that explain a lot of things, but it wouldn’t be as embarassing as having Mr. Potatoe-Head running our country.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sometimes find myself wishing that it would turn out that George W. Bush was really a Lex Luthor type evil genius and was only pretending to be a doofus.</p>
<p>Not only would that explain a lot of things, but it wouldn’t be as embarassing as having Mr. Potatoe-Head running our country.</p>
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