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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/21/cheaters-never-prosperas-long-as-you-expose-them/#comment-911673</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 06:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I see no reason that Thompson, a High School football and basketbalk team athlete in good health, wouldn’t have enlisted in the war that he vigorously supported. Sure he married his first wife when he was 17 and still in HS…likely because she was pregnant.  And having a family was an appropriate rationale to getting a draft deferment (one that Cheney also used). But there were lots of enlistees with young wives and families.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But it was a war that he expected others to fight.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here’s a little about Fred’s early history in Alabama and Tennessee which makes pretty clear he was a healthy young college student, and although married, a bit of a wild “good ol’ boy”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timesdaily.com/article/20070810/NEWS/708100329/1011&quot;&gt;http://www.timesdaily.com/arti.....00329/1011&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see no reason that Thompson, a High School football and basketbalk team athlete in good health, wouldn’t have enlisted in the war that he vigorously supported. Sure he married his first wife when he was 17 and still in HS…likely because she was pregnant.  And having a family was an appropriate rationale to getting a draft deferment (one that Cheney also used). But there were lots of enlistees with young wives and families.</p>
<p>But it was a war that he expected others to fight.</p>
<p>Here’s a little about Fred’s early history in Alabama and Tennessee which makes pretty clear he was a healthy young college student, and although married, a bit of a wild “good ol’ boy”.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesdaily.com/article/20070810/NEWS/708100329/1011">http://www.timesdaily.com/arti&#8230;..00329/1011</a></p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/21/cheaters-never-prosperas-long-as-you-expose-them/#comment-911608</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 05:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-909984&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Sewmouse @ 117&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-909870&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Badwater @ 67&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;How did Fred Thompson avoid military service?  He’s the right age for the first wave into Viet Nam.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It appears that there is a misconception that ALL young men who were of the “correct” age during the Vietnam draft years were drafted for military service.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is not true - there was a lottery - your birthday was what determined when (or if) you would be called up for service.  Only a certain number of boys were called each year.  It is concievable that you would be able to avoid service simply by having been “born right”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.landscaper.net/draft.htm&quot;&gt;Better information here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The lottery started pretty late in the war. Early on few who were eligible were actually drafted…most were able to find deferments if they had the educational capabilities or money. But when the lottery started they diallowed any sort of deferments so the only way to avoid being at risk was to enlist in some sort of “limousine unit” like the Texas Air National Gaurd. So it was a crap shoot for everyone else…I was drawn #9 in 1971.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-909984"><em>Sewmouse @ 117</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-909870"><em>Badwater @ 67</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>How did Fred Thompson avoid military service?  He’s the right age for the first wave into Viet Nam.</p>
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<p>It appears that there is a misconception that ALL young men who were of the “correct” age during the Vietnam draft years were drafted for military service.  </p>
<p>This is not true &#8211; there was a lottery &#8211; your birthday was what determined when (or if) you would be called up for service.  Only a certain number of boys were called each year.  It is concievable that you would be able to avoid service simply by having been “born right”.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.landscaper.net/draft.htm">Better information here</a></p>
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<p>The lottery started pretty late in the war. Early on few who were eligible were actually drafted…most were able to find deferments if they had the educational capabilities or money. But when the lottery started they diallowed any sort of deferments so the only way to avoid being at risk was to enlist in some sort of “limousine unit” like the Texas Air National Gaurd. So it was a crap shoot for everyone else…I was drawn #9 in 1971.</p>
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		<title>By: NewsSophisticate</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/21/cheaters-never-prosperas-long-as-you-expose-them/#comment-911013</link>
		<dc:creator>NewsSophisticate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Homeland Security tightens Grip. Entering Latin America and the Caribbean&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It looks like neo imperial America is increasing her empire. Touting “the Time Has Finally Come” and “..the long anticipated event”,Homeland Security and apparently her little sister the, Latin American Caribbean Security Council (LACHSS ), is holding a summit November 7-10, 2007 at the Gaylord Palms Resort and Convention Center in Orlando, Florida. With a goal of bringing Latin America and &lt;a&gt;thttp://newssophisticate.blogspot.com/2007/08/homeland-security-tightens-grip.htmlhe&lt;/a&gt; Caribbean countries into the existing homeland security apparatus, the LACHSS summit has a stated mission…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please the read the full Article.  A MUST SEE.  The imagery alone is provocative enough.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Homeland Security tightens Grip. Entering Latin America and the Caribbean</p>
<p>It looks like neo imperial America is increasing her empire. Touting “the Time Has Finally Come” and “..the long anticipated event”,Homeland Security and apparently her little sister the, Latin American Caribbean Security Council (LACHSS ), is holding a summit November 7-10, 2007 at the Gaylord Palms Resort and Convention Center in Orlando, Florida. With a goal of bringing Latin America and <a>thttp://newssophisticate.blogspot.com/2007/08/homeland-security-tightens-grip.htmlhe</a> Caribbean countries into the existing homeland security apparatus, the LACHSS summit has a stated mission…</p>
<p>Please the read the full Article.  A MUST SEE.  The imagery alone is provocative enough.</p>
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		<title>By: shoepucker43</title>
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		<dc:creator>shoepucker43</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think younger Fred looked like Peter Boyle in Young Frankenstein.  I think old Fred looks like old Peter Boyle.  Mrs. Thompson reminds me of a character from Young Frankenstein also; the one that sings at the end.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think younger Fred looked like Peter Boyle in Young Frankenstein.  I think old Fred looks like old Peter Boyle.  Mrs. Thompson reminds me of a character from Young Frankenstein also; the one that sings at the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Way EPU’d, but important.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From Chrisy above…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
If you have some time this morning, call the FEC at (800) 424-9530 or in Washington (202) 694-1100. Ask them why Fred Thompson has been getting a pass to cheat on election laws. What is the cheat, you ask? This:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“If Thompson waits until September 6 to formally declare his candidacy, he wouldn’t have to disclose any of the cash given to his campaign until January 31 — after many major contests are over, including the Iowa and Nevada Caucuses, and the New Hampshire, South Carolina, Michigan and Florida primaries.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And you thought he was just being coy. Cheaters only prosper when you let them get away with it.  More sunshine please&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I just watched Lehrer this evening.  Gwen Ifle and frequent guest ‘expert’ Susan Page discussed the Freddie candidacy at length.  They did NOT, however, even come close to dealing with the angle you brought up in your post, Christy.  Seems as if it might be a good idea to call/e-mail and enlighten our PBS “experts”. eh?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way EPU’d, but important.</p>
<p>From Chrisy above…</p>
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If you have some time this morning, call the FEC at (800) 424-9530 or in Washington (202) 694-1100. Ask them why Fred Thompson has been getting a pass to cheat on election laws. What is the cheat, you ask? This:</p>
<p>“If Thompson waits until September 6 to formally declare his candidacy, he wouldn’t have to disclose any of the cash given to his campaign until January 31 — after many major contests are over, including the Iowa and Nevada Caucuses, and the New Hampshire, South Carolina, Michigan and Florida primaries.”</p>
<p>And you thought he was just being coy. Cheaters only prosper when you let them get away with it.  More sunshine please</p>
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<p>I just watched Lehrer this evening.  Gwen Ifle and frequent guest ‘expert’ Susan Page discussed the Freddie candidacy at length.  They did NOT, however, even come close to dealing with the angle you brought up in your post, Christy.  Seems as if it might be a good idea to call/e-mail and enlighten our PBS “experts”. eh?</p>
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		<title>By: liberal elite</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/21/cheaters-never-prosperas-long-as-you-expose-them/#comment-910570</link>
		<dc:creator>liberal elite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-909810&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;nonplussed @ 14&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I got Starbuck’s Gold Coast, the nectar of the goddess! Not to intrude on OC’s turf, but I do have a fresh pot &amp; us highly caffeinated people love to share.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh NO!  Not Starbucks!  They’re an uber chain that has run everybody else out of business through predatory pricing and unfair labor practices.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-909810"><em>nonplussed @ 14</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I got Starbuck’s Gold Coast, the nectar of the goddess! Not to intrude on OC’s turf, but I do have a fresh pot &amp; us highly caffeinated people love to share.</p>
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<p>Oh NO!  Not Starbucks!  They’re an uber chain that has run everybody else out of business through predatory pricing and unfair labor practices.</p>
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		<title>By: deandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>deandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 20:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The reason old Freddie is motoring around in a golf cart is that he &lt;b&gt;can’t hack the walking!&lt;/b&gt;  &lt;em&gt;He’s not being very honest with Americans!&lt;/em&gt;  There is something medically wrong with the old geezer.  Don’t know what, but know that there is.  Any doctors out there who might dare to venture an opinion?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason old Freddie is motoring around in a golf cart is that he <b>can’t hack the walking!</b>  <em>He’s not being very honest with Americans!</em>  There is something medically wrong with the old geezer.  Don’t know what, but know that there is.  Any doctors out there who might dare to venture an opinion?</p>
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		<title>By: jolie</title>
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		<dc:creator>jolie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I called the FEC on the reporting question, too. I got a slightly different answer than posted above concerning the timeframe for cash raised.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;- if a candidate is in the “testing” phase, then once he announces or raises cash above what’s “reasonably necessary” (term undefined) he must report ALL funds received, not just those from the  previous quarter.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BUT&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;- if a candidate has announced (no longer “testing”) then it’s the fund raised in the previous quarter that must be reported.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it’d be fun to see thompson evading election laws - he’d be yet another republican playing to type. but I don’t think that’s what’s going on here. once he announces, he will have to report ALL funds raised. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;so we should be on the alert for the contents of the first report.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I did press the FEC staffer on whether there’s any oversight on the “testing” phase. there isn’t - candidates define it themselves. so here’s another area needing congressional attention.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I called the FEC on the reporting question, too. I got a slightly different answer than posted above concerning the timeframe for cash raised.</p>
<p>- if a candidate is in the “testing” phase, then once he announces or raises cash above what’s “reasonably necessary” (term undefined) he must report ALL funds received, not just those from the  previous quarter.</p>
<p>BUT</p>
<p>- if a candidate has announced (no longer “testing”) then it’s the fund raised in the previous quarter that must be reported.</p>
<p>it’d be fun to see thompson evading election laws &#8211; he’d be yet another republican playing to type. but I don’t think that’s what’s going on here. once he announces, he will have to report ALL funds raised. </p>
<p>so we should be on the alert for the contents of the first report.</p>
<p>I did press the FEC staffer on whether there’s any oversight on the “testing” phase. there isn’t &#8211; candidates define it themselves. so here’s another area needing congressional attention.</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
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		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-909984&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Sewmouse @ 117&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-909870&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Badwater @ 67&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;How did Fred Thompson avoid military service?  He’s the right age for the first wave into Viet Nam.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It appears that there is a misconception that ALL young men who were of the “correct” age during the Vietnam draft years were drafted for military service.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is not true - there was a lottery - your birthday was what determined when (or if) you would be called up for service.  Only a certain number of boys were called each year.  It is concievable that you would be able to avoid service simply by having been “born right”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.landscaper.net/draft.htm&quot;&gt;Better information here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The lottery did not exist until 1970.  Freddie of Hollywood would have been available for the draft in the early 60s.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-909984"><em>Sewmouse @ 117</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-909870"><em>Badwater @ 67</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>How did Fred Thompson avoid military service?  He’s the right age for the first wave into Viet Nam.</p>
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<p>It appears that there is a misconception that ALL young men who were of the “correct” age during the Vietnam draft years were drafted for military service.  </p>
<p>This is not true &#8211; there was a lottery &#8211; your birthday was what determined when (or if) you would be called up for service.  Only a certain number of boys were called each year.  It is concievable that you would be able to avoid service simply by having been “born right”.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.landscaper.net/draft.htm">Better information here</a></p>
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<p>The lottery did not exist until 1970.  Freddie of Hollywood would have been available for the draft in the early 60s.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I made my call to the FEC– what a bunch of hoey…. has he ever said “i want to be the next president of the United States”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made my call to the FEC– what a bunch of hoey…. has he ever said “i want to be the next president of the United States”</p>
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