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		<title>By: dejah</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/what-was-that-about-family-values-again/#comment-910071</link>
		<dc:creator>dejah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The kid’s an American citizen.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: GarColga</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/what-was-that-about-family-values-again/#comment-909739</link>
		<dc:creator>GarColga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-909087&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;wigwam @ 93&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-908950&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;anne @ 91&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I was wondering that too.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s now 8:30, and nobody has addressed this very simple and central question.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;According to this report, her son was reunited with her in Tijuana, but she is sending him back to Chicago to live. That poor kid.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/518336,CST-NWS-IMMIG21.article&quot;&gt;http://www.suntimes.com/news/m.....21.article&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-909087"><em>wigwam @ 93</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-908950"><em>anne @ 91</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I was wondering that too.</p>
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<p>It’s now 8:30, and nobody has addressed this very simple and central question.</p>
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<p>According to this report, her son was reunited with her in Tijuana, but she is sending him back to Chicago to live. That poor kid.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/518336,CST-NWS-IMMIG21.article">http://www.suntimes.com/news/m&#8230;..21.article</a></p>
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		<title>By: larue</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/what-was-that-about-family-values-again/#comment-909333</link>
		<dc:creator>larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 04:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hard To Explain This Away:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;em&gt;martygrn Says:&lt;br /&gt;
August 11th, 2007 at 9:28 am&lt;br /&gt;
I am very sorry to have to completely and totally disagree with this report as being totally false and misleading. I am an RN who works in a Pediatric ICU. I know for an absolute fact that these numbers are outright false. I know from experience that illegals whose children are admitted to an ICU, my experience, they almost are immediatly given Medicaid. They are then covered for all of their expenses for their entire hospital stay. I assume you may be from Phoenix, so I will also tell you that I worked an assignment at Maricopa Med Center and it is absolutly true there. I am not familiar with how it works at Banner, et al. This report may be true for illegals reciept of outpatient, preventative care. However, for acute, ICU level care, it is way, way off the mark.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Marty G., RN&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s a difficult subject . . . and the war is NOT with the children, or their parents, it’s with private for profit health care NOT delivering for everyone on the planet, versus, universal CARE, not universal COVERAGE.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d like to see FDL focus more on the fight for universal CARE as opposed to the polarized wars about universal COVERAGE.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Until the system is completely changed, the war about illegals and citizens will continue forever. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The fight should be for CARE. Coverage should be IMMEDIATELY dismissed as a talking point for the Powers That Be.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Harumph.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hard To Explain This Away:</p>
<p><b><em>martygrn Says:<br />
August 11th, 2007 at 9:28 am<br />
I am very sorry to have to completely and totally disagree with this report as being totally false and misleading. I am an RN who works in a Pediatric ICU. I know for an absolute fact that these numbers are outright false. I know from experience that illegals whose children are admitted to an ICU, my experience, they almost are immediatly given Medicaid. They are then covered for all of their expenses for their entire hospital stay. I assume you may be from Phoenix, so I will also tell you that I worked an assignment at Maricopa Med Center and it is absolutly true there. I am not familiar with how it works at Banner, et al. This report may be true for illegals reciept of outpatient, preventative care. However, for acute, ICU level care, it is way, way off the mark.</em></b></p>
<p>Marty G., RN</p>
<p>It’s a difficult subject . . . and the war is NOT with the children, or their parents, it’s with private for profit health care NOT delivering for everyone on the planet, versus, universal CARE, not universal COVERAGE.</p>
<p>I’d like to see FDL focus more on the fight for universal CARE as opposed to the polarized wars about universal COVERAGE.</p>
<p>Until the system is completely changed, the war about illegals and citizens will continue forever. </p>
<p>The fight should be for CARE. Coverage should be IMMEDIATELY dismissed as a talking point for the Powers That Be.</p>
<p>Harumph.</p>
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		<title>By: spaghetti happens</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/what-was-that-about-family-values-again/#comment-909312</link>
		<dc:creator>spaghetti happens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 04:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“But these freeloaders swamp our emergency rooms!”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I seem to recall President Dumbshit telling us not too long ago that the poor don’t need health care benefits because they’ve always got the emergency room.  Sounds like a bit of a disconnect among the faithful, no?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“But these freeloaders swamp our emergency rooms!”</p>
<p>I seem to recall President Dumbshit telling us not too long ago that the poor don’t need health care benefits because they’ve always got the emergency room.  Sounds like a bit of a disconnect among the faithful, no?</p>
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		<title>By: GarColga</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/what-was-that-about-family-values-again/#comment-909116</link>
		<dc:creator>GarColga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 03:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If she took her son with her, that would destroy the whole “deportation tears families apart” argument.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Another question - who is this boy’s father and where is he?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well I guess that’s two questions!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If she took her son with her, that would destroy the whole “deportation tears families apart” argument.</p>
<p>Another question &#8211; who is this boy’s father and where is he?</p>
<p>Well I guess that’s two questions!</p>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
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		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 03:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-908950&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;anne @ 91&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-908814&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;wigwam @ 31&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Why didn’t she take her son with her?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was wondering that too.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s now 8:30, and nobody has addressed this very simple and central question.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-908950"><em>anne @ 91</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-908814"><em>wigwam @ 31</em></a></p>
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<p>Why didn’t she take her son with her?</p>
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<p>I was wondering that too.</p>
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<p>It’s now 8:30, and nobody has addressed this very simple and central question.</p>
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		<title>By: Wess</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/what-was-that-about-family-values-again/#comment-908992</link>
		<dc:creator>Wess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Cue the storm of right-wingers swarming the comments section with claims along the lines of “But these freeloaders swamp our emergency rooms! They’re why health care costs so much!” even though that particular calumny has been quite thoroughly disproved.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But that’s the One common theme amongst Wingnuts of all persausions….&lt;b&gt; HYPOCRISY &lt;/b&gt; !&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh, and of course, lying, delusional thinking and bullying those weaker than themselves.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Cue the storm of right-wingers swarming the comments section with claims along the lines of “But these freeloaders swamp our emergency rooms! They’re why health care costs so much!” even though that particular calumny has been quite thoroughly disproved.</p>
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<p>But that’s the One common theme amongst Wingnuts of all persausions….<b> HYPOCRISY </b> !</p>
<p>Oh, and of course, lying, delusional thinking and bullying those weaker than themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: anne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/what-was-that-about-family-values-again/#comment-908950</link>
		<dc:creator>anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-908814&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;wigwam @ 31&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;
An illegal immigrant who took refuge in a Chicago church for a year to avoid being separated from her U.S.-born son has been deported to Mexico, the church’s pastor said.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why didn’t she take her son with her?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was wondering that too.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-908814"><em>wigwam @ 31</em></a></p>
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An illegal immigrant who took refuge in a Chicago church for a year to avoid being separated from her U.S.-born son has been deported to Mexico, the church’s pastor said.
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<p>Why didn’t she take her son with her?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I was wondering that too.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Pill</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/what-was-that-about-family-values-again/#comment-908916</link>
		<dc:creator>Red Pill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Families don’t count if they’re brown…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Families don’t count if they’re brown…</p>
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		<title>By: Blub</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/what-was-that-about-family-values-again/#comment-908915</link>
		<dc:creator>Blub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorrry.. I meant CA-50’s rethug, Bilbray.  CA-53 is Davis’ blue district&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorrry.. I meant CA-50’s rethug, Bilbray.  CA-53 is Davis’ blue district</p>
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