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		<title>By: jakebob</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/miscalculations/#comment-908556</link>
		<dc:creator>jakebob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 22:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-907606&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Other Pat @ 57&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-907601&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Helpless Dancer @ 52&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don’t know if the Goopers did it on purpose or it is just their nature, but they spent the whole of the Clinton years making mountains out of molehills. Now that we are staring at actual mountains of shit, the public can’t tell the difference.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And now Rove continues the “moving forward” line; he said the Democrats want to live in the past (that is, pointing out the mess of this administration), while the forward-thinking Republicans are all about the future.&lt;br /&gt;
Puh-leeeze.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Forward Looking” In Wingnutspeak:&lt;br /&gt;
“Clinton did it tooooo!”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-907601"><em>Helpless Dancer @ 52</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I don’t know if the Goopers did it on purpose or it is just their nature, but they spent the whole of the Clinton years making mountains out of molehills. Now that we are staring at actual mountains of shit, the public can’t tell the difference.</p>
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<p>And now Rove continues the “moving forward” line; he said the Democrats want to live in the past (that is, pointing out the mess of this administration), while the forward-thinking Republicans are all about the future.<br />
Puh-leeeze.</p>
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<p>“Forward Looking” In Wingnutspeak:<br />
“Clinton did it tooooo!”</p>
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		<title>By: jakebob</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/miscalculations/#comment-908545</link>
		<dc:creator>jakebob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 22:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-907593&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Badwater @ 44&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;That Kuo detailed Rove’s disdain for the religious Bush partisans should make everyone suspicious of Bush’s own claims of religiosness.  Chances are that Bush simply pretends to be religious.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now I’m like totally shocked.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-907593"><em>Badwater @ 44</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>That Kuo detailed Rove’s disdain for the religious Bush partisans should make everyone suspicious of Bush’s own claims of religiosness.  Chances are that Bush simply pretends to be religious.</p>
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<p>Now I’m like totally shocked.</p>
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		<title>By: VJB</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/miscalculations/#comment-908231</link>
		<dc:creator>VJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Somehow I can’t help associating the House and Senate oversight committee’s valiant efforts with Weird Al’s cheery song, ‘Weasel Stomping Day.’ See the Robot Chicken video at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQLk0mBuSPM&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQLk0mBuSPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But without the irony.  Sometimes weasels really do need stomping.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow I can’t help associating the House and Senate oversight committee’s valiant efforts with Weird Al’s cheery song, ‘Weasel Stomping Day.’ See the Robot Chicken video at <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQLk0mBuSPM">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQLk0mBuSPM</a></p>
<p>But without the irony.  Sometimes weasels really do need stomping.</p>
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		<title>By: Brisingamen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/miscalculations/#comment-907746</link>
		<dc:creator>Brisingamen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-907591&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Waccamaw @ 43&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I personally love accents of all varieties but you may well have a valid point about a lot of people tuning out. My best bud is a die-hard Dem but won’t give Arianna a chance and dealing with the accent may be part of it. Wonder if there may be a touch of xenophobia involved in the sense of “she’s not an ammurican so who’s she to tell us anything”.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately, Ariana sounds like Eva Gabor on “Green Acres” — and there’s a segment of the population will tune her out because of it. While I love hearing various accents, this one give me pause when heard in hard news coverage, FWIW.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-907591"><em>Waccamaw @ 43</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I personally love accents of all varieties but you may well have a valid point about a lot of people tuning out. My best bud is a die-hard Dem but won’t give Arianna a chance and dealing with the accent may be part of it. Wonder if there may be a touch of xenophobia involved in the sense of “she’s not an ammurican so who’s she to tell us anything”.</p>
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<p>Unfortunately, Ariana sounds like Eva Gabor on “Green Acres” — and there’s a segment of the population will tune her out because of it. While I love hearing various accents, this one give me pause when heard in hard news coverage, FWIW.</p>
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		<title>By: NMvoiceofreason</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/miscalculations/#comment-907743</link>
		<dc:creator>NMvoiceofreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Before the Republicans come out with their talking point “He didn’t break any laws - he just played hardball”:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rove’s scheme was a criminal conspiracy under 18 USC 601 et.seq. to use AUSA’s for political benefit, to the detriment of democrats, and the benefit of republicans.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;18 USC Section 601: “Deprivation of employment or other benefit for political contribution”, &lt;a href=&quot;http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/ts_search.pl?title=18&amp;sec=601&quot;&gt;http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/.....mp;sec=601&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 18 USC Section 606: “Intimidation to secure political contributions”, &lt;a href=&quot;http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/ts_search.pl?title=18&amp;sec=606&quot;&gt;http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/.....mp;sec=606&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 18 USC Section 1505: “Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees”, &lt;a href=&quot;http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/ts_search.pl?title=18&amp;sec=1505&quot;&gt;http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/.....p;sec=1505&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before the Republicans come out with their talking point “He didn’t break any laws &#8211; he just played hardball”:</p>
<p>Rove’s scheme was a criminal conspiracy under 18 USC 601 et.seq. to use AUSA’s for political benefit, to the detriment of democrats, and the benefit of republicans.</p>
<p>18 USC Section 601: “Deprivation of employment or other benefit for political contribution”, <a href="http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/ts_search.pl?title=18&amp;sec=601">http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/&#8230;..mp;sec=601</a><br />
 18 USC Section 606: “Intimidation to secure political contributions”, <a href="http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/ts_search.pl?title=18&amp;sec=606">http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/&#8230;..mp;sec=606</a><br />
 18 USC Section 1505: “Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees”, <a href="http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/ts_search.pl?title=18&amp;sec=1505">http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/&#8230;..p;sec=1505</a></p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/miscalculations/#comment-907740</link>
		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-907577&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jonathan @ 29&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Christy, it appears Rove et al have been involved in a big conspiracy (or conspiracies).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It also appears that although we know the braod outlines and some of the details of the conspiracy, there is much we don’t know.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A whole lot we don’t know, because no one much is talking.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Some argue that there couldn’t have been a conspriracy to assassinate John Kennedy, because if there were, somebody would have talked.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m inclined to believe a large conspiracy involving government takeover is possible and can be kept secret or largely secret.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Reason:  The participants in such a conspiracy believe in its objectives and have much to gain.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;RICO and Breach of Fiduciary Duty.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-907577"><em>Jonathan @ 29</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Christy, it appears Rove et al have been involved in a big conspiracy (or conspiracies).</p>
<p>It also appears that although we know the braod outlines and some of the details of the conspiracy, there is much we don’t know.</p>
<p>A whole lot we don’t know, because no one much is talking.</p>
<p>Some argue that there couldn’t have been a conspriracy to assassinate John Kennedy, because if there were, somebody would have talked.</p>
<p>I’m inclined to believe a large conspiracy involving government takeover is possible and can be kept secret or largely secret.</p>
<p>Reason:  The participants in such a conspiracy believe in its objectives and have much to gain.</p>
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<p>RICO and Breach of Fiduciary Duty.</p>
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		<title>By: Brisingamen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/miscalculations/#comment-907700</link>
		<dc:creator>Brisingamen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-907564&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;ifthethunderdontgetya @ 16&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;It’s hard to hope for much from the courts while AGAG is still in charge.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;AGAG is not in charge of the Judiciary, i.e. the Federal Court System&lt;/b&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He is in charge of the Justice Department (arrest and prosecution, FBI and US Attorneys, respectively).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;AGAG may be able to throw a spoke in the prosecution of crimes, but he can’t stop Federal Judges from holding hearings, or for that matter, stop the Congress from doing the same.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>It’s hard to hope for much from the courts while AGAG is still in charge.</p>
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<p><b>AGAG is not in charge of the Judiciary, i.e. the Federal Court System</b>. </p>
<p>He is in charge of the Justice Department (arrest and prosecution, FBI and US Attorneys, respectively).</p>
<p>AGAG may be able to throw a spoke in the prosecution of crimes, but he can’t stop Federal Judges from holding hearings, or for that matter, stop the Congress from doing the same.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/miscalculations/#comment-907673</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;rudy is already laying ground for the possibility of bloomberg running……on charlie rose…..said he was glad to see bloomberg continue ‘his’ programs in the city……and that his regret was to not take over the schools……like bloomberg did…….but he made it sound like he/rudy had paved the road for everything that bloomberg did/is doing…….was pathetic…….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rudy is already laying ground for the possibility of bloomberg running……on charlie rose…..said he was glad to see bloomberg continue ‘his’ programs in the city……and that his regret was to not take over the schools……like bloomberg did…….but he made it sound like he/rudy had paved the road for everything that bloomberg did/is doing…….was pathetic…….</p>
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		<title>By: Moon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/miscalculations/#comment-907665</link>
		<dc:creator>Moon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is this the story Turdbrain was trying to get out in front of by running his mouth all week long…..or is their more to come?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this the story Turdbrain was trying to get out in front of by running his mouth all week long…..or is their more to come?</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/miscalculations/#comment-907656</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-907623&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;PB (peanut butter) @ 72&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;This sounds wonderful.  How about plans for captioning and/or transcripts of this material?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;transcripts were addressed in &lt;a href=&quot;http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:s1:&quot;&gt;S.1&lt;/a&gt; - starting, i think, in october, hearing transcripts will be made available online within 3 weeks of the hearing. i would have liked it to be 3 days… but this is much better than the current state of affairs where hearing transcripts might not show up for a couple of years.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;our congress is doing some very good things - and this is one of them&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-907623"><em>PB (peanut butter) @ 72</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>This sounds wonderful.  How about plans for captioning and/or transcripts of this material?</p>
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<p>transcripts were addressed in <a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:s1:">S.1</a> &#8211; starting, i think, in october, hearing transcripts will be made available online within 3 weeks of the hearing. i would have liked it to be 3 days… but this is much better than the current state of affairs where hearing transcripts might not show up for a couple of years.</p>
<p>our congress is doing some very good things &#8211; and this is one of them</p>
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