zed-ish?

Woo-hoo!

Zed?!

Downstairs is informed, boss!

D’OH!
And I’ve been stalkin’ it since 9:56!

Congrats Shadow-Zed-Stalker!

FunnyD

zed in a black dress? not so much…

Seis!!

that’s because you aren’t wearing your babs pearls al

Suzanne @ 8

that’s because you aren’t wearing your babs pearls al

tis true, they’re in the safety deposit box and I’m too lazy to get up and go get them…

OK, I got yer Joe Cocker rightcher!

I dunno, T, Goldfinger, sing by Shirley Bassey, is a pretty great song.

12?

Actually, Mos Def might make a better Bond than Common.

SteveAudio @ 11

I dunno, T, Goldfinger, sing by Shirley Bassey, is a pretty great song.

Thunderball, by Tom Jones. Never been beat. Also the best bond ever made.

althespook @ 14

SteveAudio @ 11

I dunno, T, Goldfinger, sing by Shirley Bassey, is a pretty great song.

Thunderball, by Tom Jones. Never been beat. Also the best bond ever made.

Thunderball?!! I sorta agree about the song, but the best Bond film? I know it’s got Connery as Bond and some great Bond girls, but the action scenes are pretty slow and bloated…

FunnyD

Hi everyone….. whats up?

Wangdangdoodle.

I’ll see your Joe Cocker and raise you some smokin’ Robert Cray.

I’m apparently just a hair younger than you folks….Nobody Does It Better from The Spy Who Loved Me, for best Bond song and movie.

althespook @ 6

zed in a black dress? not so much…

and nobody caught my buddy’s joke about the gownless evening strap…

katymine @ 16

Hi everyone….. whats up?

Hey, hon! How’s tricks?

Loo Hoo. @ 17

Wangdangdoodle.

That’s the one I tried to get first, but I must not be old enough…

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HA!!

burnspbesq @ 18

I’ll see your Joe Cocker and raise you some smokin’ Robert Cray.

Ooooooo, horns!

Well pups, it’s been an educational evening at the Lake. Thanks to the wonderful nature talk given by DrDick, i now know Facts About the Reproductive Lives of Bunnies that i’m glad i didn’t need to know when i owned one.

G’night, pups! *poof*

Hello Katymine!

And a large side order of Robert Randolph

Just came back from dinner out with friends…

Can’t play too long… Miss Dog has staked out the dead middle of the bed and if she goes to sleep first…. it is like moving a ton of bricks.. hard to imagine that she is only a beagle. She is still clingy since ALL the kids moved out.

Hi back TRex!

Loo Hoo. @ 20

althespook @ 6

zed in a black dress? not so much…

and nobody caught my buddy’s joke about the gownless evening strap…

totally missed it :( dang forking headache – made me read jane’s comment downstairs about Pasty as Patsy – spent a while trying to figure out who Patsy was – until I had a moment of non-fuzzy vision and realized my error

Loo Hoo. @ 20

althespook @ 6

zed in a black dress? not so much…

and nobody caught my buddy’s joke about the gownless evening strap…

Are you sure I just didn’t want to go there?!

FunnyD

yellowdog jim @ 12

12?

YESSSS!!!

g’nite grrrlll!!!

burnspbesq @ 18

I’ll see your Joe Cocker and raise you some smokin’ Robert Cray.

I’ll see ya, and call with Marvelous Marvin…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7eTOnNBwYU

burnspbesq @ 25

And a large side order of Robert Randolph

Saw Robert Randolph and The Family Band when they opened for Clapton 2 summers ago. Smokin!

wangdangdoodle @ 10

OK, I got yer Joe Cocker rightcher!

I love Joe Cocker. “Unchain My Heart” is about my favorite of his.

yellowdog jim @ 30

yellowdog jim @ 12

12?

YESSSS!!!

You’re a baker’s dozen in my book, Jim!

Not exactly a Bond movie, but Dean is now a Cat5, 160 mph winds, and the current track now shows it going straight west across southern Mexico.

CTuttle @ 32

burnspbesq @ 18

I’ll see your Joe Cocker and raise you some smokin’ Robert Cray.

I’ll see ya, and call with Marvelous Marvin…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7eTOnNBwYU

Now we’re talkin’!

montag @ 36

Not exactly a Bond movie, but Dean is now a Cat5, 160 mph winds, and the current track now shows it going straight west across southern Mexico.

Yeah, I’ve been seeing the headline on Yahoo.
Guess that’s potentially good news for NOLA and Texas, but really, really bad news for Mexico.

FunnyD

montag @ 36

Not exactly a Bond movie, but Dean is now a Cat5, 160 mph winds, and the current track now shows it going straight west across southern Mexico.

So it could regroup once in the Pacific and then come up the coast to California?

Ok guys, I have been invited to a private house party with my Congresscritter next week. This is a big deal that I have been asked (don’t have to contribute either). Any suggestions on questions/topics without inflaming the traditional Dems?

Told the hostess that my question – if he was going to help our lower level candidates as he is campaigning around the district? If he is there, why not boost our local candidates?

Margot @ 34

wangdangdoodle @ 10

OK, I got yer Joe Cocker rightcher!

I love Joe Cocker. “Unchain My Heart” is about my favorite of his.

Margot, something’s messed up with your little blue effie. I’m getting my own homepage. I know there’s a fix for that, but I’m too drunkity to remebmer it just now.

CTuttle @ 32

burnspbesq @ 18

I’ll see your Joe Cocker and raise you some smokin’ Robert Cray.

I’ll see ya, and call with Marvelous Marvin…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7eTOnNBwYU

OK, you’ve forced me to deploy the heavy artillery.

Fat Man in the Bathtub

Suzanne @ 39

montag @ 36

Not exactly a Bond movie, but Dean is now a Cat5, 160 mph winds, and the current track now shows it going straight west across southern Mexico.

So it could regroup once in the Pacific and then come up the coast to California?

Nope, it’s going to cross the Yucatan and move out into the Gulf. The question is, will it turn north and gain size and strength?

Probably not.

{{{{egregious!}}}}

Suzanne @ 39

montag @ 36

Not exactly a Bond movie, but Dean is now a Cat5, 160 mph winds, and the current track now shows it going straight west across southern Mexico.

So it could regroup once in the Pacific and then come up the coast to California?

It’s a big storm, so, anything’s possible. But, the current 3-day track is showing less than tropical storm force winds by day three over central southern Mexico, suggesting that the storm will dissipate over land.

But, the Yucatan is going to be one big mudslide….

Suzanne @ 39

montag @ 36

Not exactly a Bond movie, but Dean is now a Cat5, 160 mph winds, and the current track now shows it going straight west across southern Mexico.

So it could regroup once in the Pacific and then come up the coast to California?

I hear GA, TN & AL could use it. Maybe not all at once, though.

katymine @ 40

Ok guys, I have been invited to a private house party with my Congresscritter next week. This is a big deal that I have been asked (don’t have to contribute either). Any suggestions on questions/topics without inflaming the traditional Dems?

Told the hostess that my question – if he was going to help our lower level candidates as he is campaigning around the district? If he is there, why not boost our local candidates?

health care. out of iraq. lending reform. restore those pesky ammendment things to the constitution. LGBT rights.

my secret guilt:
i love this song and have sung it for ev ver.
THEN one day while commenting here, i believe it was … i post a link and “sang” some of the lyrics, here … wrote them … wrote them here …
i wrote the lyrics to this song here WRONG!
i didn’t know what the real lyrics were and i knew
NOTHING about what this song (that i love so much) was ABOUT!
(i thought the guy was in distress and about to disassemble.)
(now 30 years later, i find out (at the lake) that he’s bragging? how do i sing this now?)

wangdangdoodle @ 35

yellowdog jim @ 30

YESSSS!!!

You’re a baker’s dozen in my book, Jim!

thx

born on the 13th, too.

Suzanne-a tentative suggestion about your headache

massage the piece of skin between the index and thumb.

slowly work upwards toward the joint

when you reach the part that hurts

push back slowly toward the joint

by the time you’ve pushed the pain back as far as it can go, the headache should be gone or down many notches

best to be sitting down and doing not much else

takes about ten/fifteen minutes.

works for me

apparently it’s one of the main acupuncture points

all the best

burnspbesq @ 42

CTuttle @ 32

I’ll see ya, and call with Marvelous Marvin…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7eTOnNBwYU

OK, you’ve forced me to deploy the heavy artillery.

Fat Man in the Bathtub

When I click on that, it better be Little…

oh yeah!!

Come back Tuesday!!!

yellowdog jim @ 48

my secret guilt:
i love this song and have sung it for ev ver.
THEN one day while commenting here, i believe it was … i post a link and “sang” some of the lyrics, here … wrote them … wrote them here …
i wrote the lyrics to this song here WRONG!
i didn’t know what the real lyrics were and i knew
NOTHING about what this song (that i love so much) was ABOUT!
(i thought the guy was in distress and about to disassemble.)
(now 30 years later, i find out (at the lake) that he’s bragging? how do i sing this now?)

I’m confoozled. Which song?

FunnyD

yellowdog jim @ 49

wangdangdoodle @ 35

You’re a baker’s dozen in my book, Jim!

thx

born on the 13th, too.

Friday?

Thanks, May, will give it a try

I hear GA, TN & AL could use it. Maybe not all at once, though.

We’ll take it any way we can get it.

May, does it matter which hand I do it on?

may @ 50

Suzanne-a tentative suggestion about your headache

massage the piece of skin between the index and thumb.

slowly work upwards toward the joint

when you reach the part that hurts

push back slowly toward the joint

by the time you’ve pushed the pain back as far as it can go, the headache should be gone or down many notches

best to be sitting down and doing not much else

takes about ten/fifteen minutes.

works for me

apparently it’s one of the main acupuncture points

all the best

There are also good pressure points on your occipital bones at the base of your skull.
It can be effective to lay your head on two tennis balls duct-taped together with a washcloth or towel to keep them from rolling away.

I feel for you! I used to get bad-ass migraines rather frequently.

Feel better soon.

FunnyD

may @ 50

Suzanne-a tentative suggestion about your headache

massage the piece of skin between the index and thumb.

slowly work upwards toward the joint

when you reach the part that hurts

push back slowly toward the joint

by the time you’ve pushed the pain back as far as it can go, the headache should be gone or down many notches

best to be sitting down and doing not much else

takes about ten/fifteen minutes.

works for me

apparently it’s one of the main acupuncture points

all the best

The knots I find in the webbing between my thumb and forefinger are often so tight and painful that they refuse to move.

And then I have a headache and my hand hurts, too.

TRex @ 55

I hear GA, TN & AL could use it. Maybe not all at once, though.

We’ll take it any way we can get it.

Yes, dear. But be careful what you wish for…

I met the polling guy that Markos & Jerome used in their book “Crashing the Gate”… funny thing is that he is from AZ. The top 5 polling issues:
1. Iraq
2. Environment
3. Healthcare
4. Economy
5. Infrastructure

Now look at them all, they all are tied to #1, the money, resources, talent and American lives.

Suzanne @ 56

May, does it matter which hand I do it on?

not really

burnspbesq @ 42

CTuttle @ 32

I’ll see ya, and call with Marvelous Marvin…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7eTOnNBwYU

OK, you’ve forced me to deploy the heavy artillery.

Fat Man in the Bathtub

Peace, Bro… Just listen to the Music…!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=128FK4g43b8

katymine @ 40

Ok guys, I have been invited to a private house party with my Congresscritter next week. This is a big deal that I have been asked (don’t have to contribute either). Any suggestions on questions/topics without inflaming the traditional Dems?

Told the hostess that my question – if he was going to help our lower level candidates as he is campaigning around the district? If he is there, why not boost our local candidates?

So you’re asking him to help with the state assembly and senate seats for the dems? Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Is someone asking him about impeachment of Abu?

katymine, who is your congresscritter?

Margot @ 34

wangdangdoodle @ 10

OK, I got yer Joe Cocker rightcher!

I love Joe Cocker. “Unchain My Heart” is about my favorite of his.

in case noone’s obliged yet:
Unchain My Heart

TRex @ 58

may @ 50

Suzanne-a tentative suggestion about your headache

massage the piece of skin between the index and thumb.

slowly work upwards toward the joint

when you reach the part that hurts

push back slowly toward the joint

by the time you’ve pushed the pain back as far as it can go, the headache should be gone or down many notches

best to be sitting down and doing not much else

takes about ten/fifteen minutes.

works for me

apparently it’s one of the main acupuncture points

all the best

The knots I find in the webbing between my thumb and forefinger are often so tight and painful that they refuse to move.

And then I have a headache and my hand hurts, too.

they are connected

softening those muscles relaxes tension elsewhere

i am no expert,this excercise is fron personal experience

yellowdog jim @ 48

my secret guilt:
i love this song and have sung it for ev ver.
THEN one day while commenting here, i believe it was … i post a link and “sang” some of the lyrics, here … wrote them … wrote them here …
i wrote the lyrics to this song here WRONG!
i didn’t know what the real lyrics were and i knew
NOTHING about what this song (that i love so much) was ABOUT!
(i thought the guy was in distress and about to disassemble.)
(now 30 years later, i find out (at the lake) that he’s bragging? how do i sing this now?)

What’s the song, jim?

wangdangdoodle @ 46

Suzanne @ 39

So it could regroup once in the Pacific and then come up the coast to California?

I hear GA, TN & AL could use it. Maybe not all at once, though.

montag @ 36

Not exactly a Bond movie, but Dean is now a Cat5, 160 mph winds, and the current track now shows it going straight west across southern Mexico.

The folks in southern Mexico and northern Guatemala are extremely poor and live at a subsistence level. The outcome is not going to be pretty.

Funnydiva2002 @ 52

I’m confoozled. Which song?

FunnyD

Marvin Gay, “Trouble Man”
in the above video.
that song.

“I come of heart … “

NOT
“i come apart … ” , jim!

Here’s a super-group I wish would get back together and record another album.

Strength in Numbers.

Yes, that is Mark O’Connor on guitar.

wigwam @ 68

wangdangdoodle @ 46

I hear GA, TN & AL could use it. Maybe not all at once, though.

montag @ 36

Not exactly a Bond movie, but Dean is now a Cat5, 160 mph winds, and the current track now shows it going straight west across southern Mexico.

The folks in southern Mexico and northern Guatemala are extremely poor and live at a subsistence level. The outcome is not going to be pretty.

also because they may not have the means to know what’s coming.

Loo Hoo, my DFA group delivered 65,000 signed petitions to Impeach Gonzo last month. This is the only AZ Democrat who voted FOR FISA. But he is a far cry better than old JD Hayworth any day!

In 2006 – the way the state ran the campaigns with the coordinated campaigns, they ONLY called or mentioned the 3-4 top races. My own district almost booted out the “Guns In Bars” state Senator by 1000 votes.

It is just my opinion but I think that upper level candidates need to help the down ticket candidates with the idea of helping grow the farm team. It is pure selfishness to run a single candidate race on the party dime AND not make it a group effort.

My Congressman is Harry Mitchell – AZ CD-05

ps

be gentle

don’t force it

if it pushes back-let it

then persist toward the joint

you don’t have to be ruthless,just relentless

a bit like the tide coming in

wigwam @ 68

wangdangdoodle @ 46

I hear GA, TN & AL could use it. Maybe not all at once, though.

montag @ 36

Not exactly a Bond movie, but Dean is now a Cat5, 160 mph winds, and the current track now shows it going straight west across southern Mexico.

The folks in southern Mexico and northern Guatemala are extremely poor and live at a subsistence level. The outcome is not going to be pretty.

And they don’t have TV or radio, they don’t even know what’s coming.

Thanks for listening… I am heading to bed… Nite all

NHC: DEAN

^^ Three and five day course prediction charts. The underlying discussion is that a weather system in the northern Gulf has “pinched” Dean off and prevented any northward movement.

The Climate Prediction Center (CPC) produces a number of charts and graphics that follow the various known factors in hurricane development and growth. Two big factors are wind shear and water temp… Plus a big storm like Dean cannot grow over land, and large land masses should disrupt, weaken, and kill them.

SST Charts were updated recently. They show why nobody wants this storm to move north into the orange colored warm water on the most recent map.

Katymine – isn’t Harry Mitchell your critter?
OK. Never mind..

katymine @ 75

Thanks for listening… I am heading to bed… Nite all

sleep well Katymine.

Angels and Yankees are in extra innings. Off to watch. Back later.

And they don’t have TV or radio, they don’t even know what’s coming.yellowdog jim @ 71

wigwam @ 68

The folks in southern Mexico and northern Guatemala are extremely poor and live at a subsistence level. The outcome is not going to be pretty.

also because they may not have the means to know what’s coming.

Jim, we must be on the same wavelength.

yellowdog jim @ 65

Margot @ 34

I love Joe Cocker. “Unchain My Heart” is about my favorite of his.

in case noone’s obliged yet:
Unchain My Heart

Hello, all — a late night for me and soon to bed, but dropped by here. Looking at the lyrics to this, isn’t this derived from Ray Charles’ Unchain my Heart? There are some differences, but many of the lines are the same. Is it set to a different music?

newtonusr @ 77

Katymine – isn’t Harry Mitchell your critter?
OK. Never mind..

Yep he is mine… the teacher of HS Government voted FOR FISA bill!

Good for you, Katymine. I agree that the top dogs should help the littler guys/gals.

G’nite, Katymine.

FunnyD

Woohoo my buddy Jeffery Feldman is on a tear Rove is POLITICAL

Me3,

Thanks for the link to the NHC. I meant to look it up earlier today, but forgot in the tumult.

katymine @ 82

newtonusr @ 77

Katymine – isn’t Harry Mitchell your critter?
OK. Never mind..

Yep he is mine… the teacher of HS Government voted FOR FISA bill!

Shit!! It’s criminal to let someone like that teach civics to kids. There must be a special circle in Hell …

OK. I’m off to bed, too.

Goodnight everypup! Here’s to waking up refreshed and feeling better tomorrow.

FunnyD

peanutbutter @ 81

yellowdog jim @ 65

in case noone’s obliged yet:
Unchain My Heart

Hello, all — a late night for me and soon to bed, but dropped by here. Looking at the lyrics to this, isn’t this derived from Ray Charles’ Unchain my Heart? There are some differences, but many of the lines are the same. Is it set to a different music?

Ray did it up real nice, google says Bobby Sharp wrote it.

wangdangdoodle @ 80

And they don’t have TV or radio, they don’t even know what’s coming.yellowdog jim @ 71

also because they may not have the means to know what’s coming.

Jim, we must be on the same wavelength.

Van!

For a brief moment, the citizens forget about their troubles, and joy is rampant throughout the land.

Angels 7, Yankees 6.

Funnydiva2002 @ 88

OK. I’m off to bed, too.

Goodnight everypup! Here’s to waking up refreshed and feeling better tomorrow.

FunnyD

night funnyd

And as long as we’re on the subject of peanutbutter @ 81“>Ray Charles…

YDog jim-

He is alternating between saying, “I come up hard”, meaning, I grew up under difficult circumstances, and saying, “I come apart”.

Most lyric sheets get this song wrong. Don’t be fooled.

Now, why is it that these people are “normal,” while the DFHs are the dangerous radicals?

And the contempt keeps flowing from the White House:

(AP) — A federal judge in Montana has ordered the Bush administration’s top forestry official to explain why he should not be held in contempt of court for the U.S. Forest Service’s failure to analyze the environmental impacts of dropping fish-killing fire retardant on wildfires.

If found in contempt, Agriculture Undersecretary Mark Rey, who oversees the U.S. Forest Service, could go to jail until the Forest Service complies with the court order to do the environmental review. However, former Interior Secretary Gale Norton did not go to jail over her contempt finding in an Indian trust funds case. It was reversed on appeal.

US Forest Service must be run by flunkies too.

TRex @ 94

YDog jim-

He is alternating between saying, “I come up hard”, meaning, I grew up under difficult circumstances, and saying, “I come apart”.

Most lyric sheets get this song wrong. Don’t be fooled.

whoa.
whoa.
hold the mustard.

now i must recalibrate everything.
once again while at the lake my world tilts
twists

around my fave marvin gaye song.

weird.

thanks, man.
i needed THAT.
really.

just plain, wow.

wangdangdoodle @ 93

And as long as we’re on the subject of peanutbutter @ 81“>Ray Charles…

Has anyone here ever said to yourself, “Huh. Wonder how Boris Yeltsin would dance to Peanut Butter Jelly?”

Well…

Al,

Is Abe Foxman in deep doodoo at the ADL, or is there just some factional fight going on over there? Even Dershowitz dissed him on the spat in NE over Armenian holocaust denial.

Ed*ard Teller @ 86

Me3,

Thanks for the link to the NHC. I meant to look it up earlier today, but forgot in the tumult.

No prob.

I was one of the few who were tracking Katrina on-line, and I wrote to a friend the night before that New Orleans was going to be drowned.

She took time out at lunch to write me back the next day in order to laugh at me.

montag @ 95

Now, why is it that these people are “normal,” while the DFHs are the dangerous radicals?

That is some strange and disturbing stuff. Example:

The wisest course would have been for President Bush to use his nuclear weapons to slaughter Iraqis until they complied with his demands, or until they were all dead.

burnspbesq @ 91

For a brief moment, the citizens forget about their troubles, and joy is rampant throughout the land.

Angels 7, Yankees 6.

Beantown is a rocking too…!!! 8-) 6-0 TB!!!

TheOtherWA @ 96

And the contempt keeps flowing from the White House:

(AP) — A federal judge in Montana has ordered the Bush administration’s top forestry official to explain why he should not be held in contempt of court for the U.S. Forest Service’s failure to analyze the environmental impacts of dropping fish-killing fire retardant on wildfires.

If found in contempt, Agriculture Undersecretary Mark Rey, who oversees the U.S. Forest Service, could go to jail until the Forest Service complies with the court order to do the environmental review. However, former Interior Secretary Gale Norton did not go to jail over her contempt finding in an Indian trust funds case. It was reversed on appeal.

US Forest Service must be run by flunkies too.

mark rey is a criminal cheneybu$hco of long standing: LINK

burnspbesq @ 101

That is some strange and disturbing stuff. Example:

The wisest course would have been for President Bush to use his nuclear weapons to slaughter Iraqis until they complied with his demands, or until they were all dead.

The last paragraph is a real winner, too:

President Bush can fail in his duty to himself, his country, and his God, by becoming “ex-president” Bush or he can become “President-for-Life” Bush: the conqueror of Iraq, who brings sense to the Congress and sanity to the Supreme Court. Then who would be able to stop Bush from emulating Augustus Caesar and becoming ruler of the world? For only an America united under one ruler has the power to save humanity from the threat of a new Dark Age wrought by terrorists armed with nuclear weapons.

TheOtherWA @ 96

And the contempt keeps flowing from the White House:

(AP) — A federal judge in Montana has ordered the Bush administration’s top forestry official to explain why he should not be held in contempt of court for the U.S. Forest Service’s failure to analyze the environmental impacts of dropping fish-killing fire retardant on wildfires.

If found in contempt, Agriculture Undersecretary Mark Rey, who oversees the U.S. Forest Service, could go to jail until the Forest Service complies with the court order to do the environmental review. However, former Interior Secretary Gale Norton did not go to jail over her contempt finding in an Indian trust funds case. It was reversed on appeal.

US Forest Service must be run by flunkies too.

I say toss em all into jail. Forkers

TRex @ 94

YDog jim-

He is alternating between saying, “I come up hard”, meaning, I grew up under difficult circumstances, and saying, “I come apart”.

Most lyric sheets get this song wrong. Don’t be fooled.

SHORTER ME:
i was fooled.
thanks, man.

Thanks for the info, Yellowdog Jim. He’s about what I expected.

Boy, did I screw that up.

Ray Charles

Mr. Doodle just learned it and plays it for me every weekend.

burnspbesq @ 101

montag @ 95

Now, why is it that these people are “normal,” while the DFHs are the dangerous radicals?

That is some strange and disturbing stuff. Example:

The wisest course would have been for President Bush to use his nuclear weapons to slaughter Iraqis until they complied with his demands, or until they were all dead.

Speaking of which, anyone know where I can grab a Hullabaloo feed? Digby’s site doesn’t seem to provide one, which is inconvenient…

Me3 @ 100

I was one of the few who were tracking Katrina on-line, and I wrote to a friend the night before that New Orleans was going to be drowned.

I did too – started tracking it 2 days before. Nobody was paying much attention to it up here, but I thought it might be a monster from reading stuff at whatreallyhappened, so I went to the NHC website you linked, and said “Holy Shit!”

Ed*ard Teller @ 99

Al,

Is Abe Foxman in deep doodoo at the ADL, or is there just some factional fight going on over there? Even Dershowitz dissed him on the spat in NE over Armenian holocaust denial.

Haven’t heard much. I’ll work my sources and find out.

peanutbutter @ 109

burnspbesq @ 101

That is some strange and disturbing stuff. Example:

Speaking of which, anyone know where I can grab a Hullabaloo feed? Digby’s site doesn’t seem to provide one, which is inconvenient…

Here ya go…

http://www.digbysblog.blogspot.com/

Ed*ard Teller @ 86

Me3,

Thanks for the link to the NHC. I meant to look it up earlier today, but forgot in the tumult.

No prob.

I was one of the few who were tracking Katrina on-line, and I wrote to a friend the night before that New Orleans was going to be drowned.

She took time out at lunch to write me back the next day in order to laugh at me.

Loo Hoo. @ 98

Has anyone here ever said to yourself, “Huh. Wonder how Boris Yeltsin would dance to Peanut Butter Jelly?”

Well…

Um. Thanks. I think. Although, the old man’s surprisingly good. I think it’s just as well I have no speakers, though :-D

CTuttle @ 112

peanutbutter @ 109

Speaking of which, anyone know where I can grab a Hullabaloo feed? Digby’s site doesn’t seem to provide one, which is inconvenient…

Here ya go…

http://www.digbysblog.blogspot.com/

No, there’s no feed (no little orange thingie) that comes up for me when I go there…

Suzanne @ 105

TheOtherWA @ 96

And the contempt keeps flowing from the White House:

US Forest Service must be run by flunkies too.

I say toss em all into jail. Forkers

If Bush appointed them, they have nothing but contempt. People who hate government shouldn’t be running it.

[Another installment of WELL DUH]

I think I have more contempt for them than they have of what they’re trying to destroy.

The wisest course would have been for President Bush to use his nuclear weapons to slaughter Iraqis until they complied with his demands, or until they were all dead.

Wow. I thought that must be satire, but after clicking the link, I don’t know what to say. Those people are bat squeeze (as Mike Malloy would say) crazy.

Good evening dear friends.

Every single one of ‘em would start to blubbler and their nose will start running as soon as the cuffs were on. After being ‘humiliated’ by the booking process, getting their one call (collect), and are sitting in their little cell – hearing and seeing that clanking door shut locking them in – then they will sit there, staring at their ink stained manicure and wondering how to turn this to their advantage so they can get out.

Then the truth will come out. Not before.

TexBetsy @ 118

Good evening dear friends.

Betsy!
You’re …
awake.

Betsy woke up. How ya feeling, Tex?

TexBetsy @ 118

Good evening dear friends.

Evening!

‘nite Betsy, sweet dreams.

Suzanne @ 119

Every single one of ‘em would start to blubbler and their nose will start running as soon as the cuffs were on. After being ‘humiliated’ by the booking process, getting their one call (collect), and are sitting in their little cell – hearing and seeing that clanking door shut locking them in – then they will sit there, staring at their ink stained manicure and wondering how to turn this to their advantage so they can get out.

Then the truth will come out. Not before.

I love it when you talk dirty, Suz

Betsy, are you coming or going?

Suzanne @ 119

Every single one of ‘em would start to blubbler and their nose will start running as soon as the cuffs were on. After being ‘humiliated’ by the booking process, getting their one call (collect), and are sitting in their little cell – hearing and seeing that clanking door shut locking them in – then they will sit there, staring at their ink stained manicure and wondering how to turn this to their advantage so they can get out.

Then the truth will come out. Not before.

I think just the possibility of that happening was enough for libby to tell cheney “get me a pardon” or you’re all gonna join me. Which led to the communtation, but also to angler and maybe the throwing of cheney under the bus.

So if we can just get to the point where they’re scared it might happen, we may be able to get one to crack. And like a big dam, one crack is all you need…

Doing well, thanks. Back hurts, but better than this afternoon.

TexBetsy @ 118

Good evening dear friends.

Morning TexB!

SteveAudio @ 124

Suzanne @ 119

Every single one of ‘em would start to blubbler and their nose will start running as soon as the cuffs were on. After being ‘humiliated’ by the booking process, getting their one call (collect), and are sitting in their little cell – hearing and seeing that clanking door shut locking them in – then they will sit there, staring at their ink stained manicure and wondering how to turn this to their advantage so they can get out.

Then the truth will come out. Not before.

I love it when you talk dirty, Suz

hehehehehehe hey stevea – how’s the southland?

wangdangdoodle @ 125

Betsy, are you coming or going?

just arrived.

One interesting thing about Katrina kept probing my mind today. This time of year, 2005 was Katrina. 2006 was the Hizbolah War. Both created immense oil spills. Unlike the Exxon Valdez in 1989, which took over media cycles nationally for three weeks, neither the environmental catastrophes from Katrina and Rita or the Beirut oil spill of 2006 have gotten any fucking attention in the media at all. Yet, together, the effects of these events in the Gulf of Mexico and the Mediterranean were more than twice as damaging as the Exxon Valdez.

so what did i miss?

Suzanne @ 129

SteveAudio @ 124

I love it when you talk dirty, Suz

hehehehehehe hey stevea – how’s the southland?

Hot! Oh, and as was previously reported, Angels beat the NYY. So that’s a good thing.

Ed*ard Teller @ 110

Me3 @ 100

I was one of the few who were tracking Katrina on-line, and I wrote to a friend the night before that New Orleans was going to be drowned.

I did too – started tracking it 2 days before. Nobody was paying much attention to it up here, but I thought it might be a monster from reading stuff at whatreallyhappened, so I went to the NHC website you linked, and said “Holy Shit!”

I will never forget this… It was a week before Katrina and I had just figured out how to search for and read SST data. SST is the “Sea Surface Temperature” and they can present the data in any number of format, but the computer generated graduated color charts give the best “feel” for what is going on.

And in the latest chart I saw, there was this enormous hot spot welling up in the Gulf just off the western coast of Florida. I did not even pick up on Katrina until after it had crossed Florida, and then I checked an NHC prediction chart. I saw where it was headed and remembered the very last hard data I had seen in my SST research and what they call an “anomaly” or a hot spot off-shore. Katrina passed right over it with virtually no wind shear to dampen it.

cassie brought us excellent snacks in your absence, tex

Suzanne @ 119

Every single one of ‘em would start to blubbler and their nose will start running as soon as the cuffs were on. After being ‘humiliated’ by the booking process, getting their one call (collect), and are sitting in their little cell – hearing and seeing that clanking door shut locking them in – then they will sit there, staring at their ink stained manicure and wondering how to turn this to their advantage so they can get out.

Then the truth will come out. Not before.

I’m sure they’d be trying real hard to figure out how not to drop the soap.

TheOtherWA @ 117

Wow. I thought that must be satire, but after clicking the link, I don’t know what to say. Those people are bat squeeze (as Mike Malloy would say) crazy.

Umm, no satire there (I don’t think that capacity is in conservative genes–see “The Half-Hour News Hour,” for example).

This is just more of what those on right-wing welfare spend their days dreaming up…. What amazed me, equally, was not just how over-the-top it was, but, what a Classic Comics version of Roman history is employed to make the point. That, in itself, is puerile.

Example:Speaking of which, anyone know where I can grab a Hullabaloo feed? Digby’s site doesn’t seem to provide one, which is inconvenient…

It’s on the Huffington Post blogroll.

Loo Hoo. @ 138

Example:Speaking of which, anyone know where I can grab a Hullabaloo feed? Digby’s site doesn’t seem to provide one, which is inconvenient…

It’s on the Huffington Post blogroll.

Digby does not provide an RSS that I have been able to find.

montag @ 137

TheOtherWA @ 117

Wow. I thought that must be satire, but after clicking the link, I don’t know what to say. Those people are bat squeeze (as Mike Malloy would say) crazy.

Umm, no satire there (I don’t think that capacity is in conservative genes–see “The Half-Hour News Hour,” for example).

This is just more of what those on right-wing welfare spend their days dreaming up…. What amazed me, equally, was not just how over-the-top it was, but, what a Classics Comics version of Roman history is employed to make the point. That, in itself, is puerile.

That too. I’m no Roman scholar, but didn’t the empire fall shortly after Caesar wents nuts and declared himself ruler-for-life?

I survived the riots at The Gorge.

SteveAudio @ 133

Suzanne @ 129

hehehehehehe hey stevea – how’s the southland?

Hot! Oh, and as was previously reported, Angels beat the NYY. So that’s a good thing.

Hot, indeed. A/C is running 14 hours a day. September’s electricity bill is going to be gruesome.

althespook @ 126

Suzanne @ 119

Every single one of ‘em would start to blubbler and their nose will start running as soon as the cuffs were on. After being ‘humiliated’ by the booking process, getting their one call (collect), and are sitting in their little cell – hearing and seeing that clanking door shut locking them in – then they will sit there, staring at their ink stained manicure and wondering how to turn this to their advantage so they can get out.

Then the truth will come out. Not before.

I think just the possibility of that happening was enough for libby to tell cheney “get me a pardon” or you’re all gonna join me. Which led to the communtation, but also to angler and maybe the throwing of cheney under the bus.

So if we can just get to the point where they’re scared it might happen, we may be able to get one to crack. And like a big dam, one crack is all you need…

I absolutely agree, Al. Libby would be blubbering like the little man he is the entire processing time and then be screaming for a phone to call Fitz and start spilling just to get out. They certainly can dish it out for others but don’t do well when it is ‘them’ that is in the greybar hotel.

burnspbesq @ 142

SteveAudio @ 133

Hot! Oh, and as was previously reported, Angels beat the NYY. So that’s a good thing.

Hot, indeed. A/C is running 14 hours a day. September’s electricity bill is going to be gruesome.

Where?

I’m not going to survive tomorrow if I don’t do it now.

Betsy, you’re in charge of the CTFP.

:)

burnspbesq @ 142

SteveAudio @ 133

Hot! Oh, and as was previously reported, Angels beat the NYY. So that’s a good thing.

Hot, indeed. A/C is running 14 hours a day. September’s electricity bill is going to be gruesome.

In=freakin’-deed.

wangdangdoodle @ 145

I’m not going to survive tomorrow if I don’t do it now.

Betsy, you’re in charge of the CTFP.

:)

What am I in charge of? Centr Tex FirePups?

TexBetsy @ 144

burnspbesq @ 142

Hot, indeed. A/C is running 14 hours a day. September’s electricity bill is going to be gruesome.

Where?

Orange County.

TexBetsy @ 144

burnspbesq @ 142

Hot, indeed. A/C is running 14 hours a day. September’s electricity bill is going to be gruesome.

Where?

Southern CA, L.A. area, for me.

cancer_cures @ 141

I survived the riots at The Gorge.

these riots?

care to offer your report?

cancer_cures @ 141

I survived the riots at The Gorge.

Did someone really set the port-o-johns on fire? WTF?

TheOtherWA @ 140

That too. I’m no Roman scholar, but didn’t the empire fall shortly after Caesar wents nuts and declared himself ruler-for-life?

Not really, but it was the end of the Roman Senate as a true representative body. The empire persisted for several hundred years afterward, but, it was in steady decline as successive dictatorships brought about increasing militarism of the society (partly evidenced by the transition of the tribunes to the elite guard of the Caesar) and corruption.

TheOtherWA @ 140

montag @ 137

Umm, no satire there (I don’t think that capacity is in conservative genes–see “The Half-Hour News Hour,” for example).

This is just more of what those on right-wing welfare spend their days dreaming up…. What amazed me, equally, was not just how over-the-top it was, but, what a Classics Comics version of Roman history is employed to make the point. That, in itself, is puerile.

That too. I’m no Roman scholar, but didn’t the empire fall shortly after Caesar wents nuts and declared himself ruler-for-life?

The republic didn’t survive that ;-) but the Empire lasted quite a while after that even after the western half in Rome fell: the Byzantine empire which was basically or simplisticly the Greek speaking half of the Roman Empire, continued until around 1453-1461 centered instead in Constantinople.

burnspbesq @ 142

SteveAudio @ 133

Hot! Oh, and as was previously reported, Angels beat the NYY. So that’s a good thing.

Hot, indeed. A/C is running 14 hours a day. September’s electricity bill is going to be gruesome.

This is when I’m happy my house doesn’t have A/C or I’d be tempted…

Suzanne @ 143

althespook @ 126

I think just the possibility of that happening was enough for libby to tell cheney “get me a pardon” or you’re all gonna join me. Which led to the communtation, but also to angler and maybe the throwing of cheney under the bus.

So if we can just get to the point where they’re scared it might happen, we may be able to get one to crack. And like a big dam, one crack is all you need…

I absolutely agree, Al. Libby would be blubbering like the little man he is the entire processing time and then be screaming for a phone to call Fitz and start spilling just to get out. They certainly can dish it out for others but don’t do well when it is ‘them’ that is in the greybar hotel.

And somehow I think he senses this, because from what I have heard (back channels and all) Libby told Cheney that the MINUTE he was called to report for processing, he was calling his attorney who had the proffer for Fitz all ready to go. Given what was supposedly in the proffer, Libby felt Fitz would be in the courtroom in an hour to amend his sentencing recommendations.

peanutbutter @ 154

burnspbesq @ 142

Hot, indeed. A/C is running 14 hours a day. September’s electricity bill is going to be gruesome.

This is when I’m happy my house doesn’t have A/C or I’d be tempted…

Unless your house is incredibly well-designed and insulated, it would be a problem here. It’s 11:38 PDT, and it’s over 80 deg. outside.

montag @ 152

TheOtherWA @ 140

That too. I’m no Roman scholar, but didn’t the empire fall shortly after Caesar wents nuts and declared himself ruler-for-life?

Not really, but it was the end of the Roman Senate as a true representative body. The empire persisted for several hundred years afterward, but, it was in steady decline as successive dictatorships brought about increasing militarism of the society (partly evidenced by the transition of the tribunes to the elite guard of the Caesar) and corruption.

Ok, thanks. Sounds like it was the beginning of the end anyway. Declaring yourself ruler-for-life sounds like an all around bad thing, mmmkay?

TexBetsy @ 139

Loo Hoo. @ 138

Example:Speaking of which, anyone know where I can grab a Hullabaloo feed? Digby’s site doesn’t seem to provide one, which is inconvenient…

It’s on the Huffington Post blogroll.

Digby does not provide an RSS that I have been able to find.

Hullaballoo and Riverbend are the two blogs that stump me in this regard. I’ve even tried to set up a feed scraper for them, but they seem to fizzle after a few weeks…grrrr…

peanutbutter @ 154

burnspbesq @ 142

Hot, indeed. A/C is running 14 hours a day. September’s electricity bill is going to be gruesome.

This is when I’m happy my house doesn’t have A/C or I’d be tempted…

Our house has a goofy, late-60s layout that makes it really difficult to suck cool air in at night and distribute it to the bedrooms using fans.

66 here – still too hot to sleep tho – no a/c either

We’re in a north-facing apt with other apts on 3 sides and above us to keep the sun and heat out. Excellent insulation, but this is Texas and I still need to run the AC.

SteveAudio @ 156

peanutbutter @ 154

This is when I’m happy my house doesn’t have A/C or I’d be tempted…

Unless your house is incredibly well-designed and insulated, it would be a problem here. It’s 11:38 PDT, and it’s over 80 deg. outside.

I’m in O.C. . I do have ceiling fans, and enough of a wind through the canyons that help and I have a system of when to open and close doors to minimize heat, maximize cooling breezes, but admittedly it’s been tough the last week. However, no A/C in the house, so no temptation. (A heater was installed (go figure) and I do succumb to that in the winter (alright, all you east coast types, feel free to snicker now).)

Suzanne @ 160

66 here – still too hot to sleep tho – no a/c either

How cool does it need to be?

TexBetsy @ 161

We’re in a north-facing apt with other apts on 3 sides and above us to keep the sun and heat out. Excellent insulation, but this is Texas and I still need to run the AC.

Yeah, humidity kills it. It’s dry heat where I am.

66 sounds good, Suz. I keep the AC at 79. That’s about as warm as I can manage here in SOCal.

I’m reading a lot about whether or not to “save” or “bailout” the subprime lenders. Where is the concern about the fate of the subprime borrowers?

My AC is often set for 80. 77 tonight though. Pampering myself till my body heals a bit.

Loo Hoo. @ 165

66 sounds good, Suz. I keep the AC at 79. That’s about as warm as I can manage here in SOCal.

So peanutbutter is on OC, and you are in SoCal too? Where, guys?

As many know, I’m at the north end of the SF Valley, Granada Hills.

peanutbutter @ 162

SteveAudio @ 156

Unless your house is incredibly well-designed and insulated, it would be a problem here. It’s 11:38 PDT, and it’s over 80 deg. outside.

I’m in O.C. . I do have ceiling fans, and enough of a wind through the canyons that help and I have a system of when to open and close doors to minimize heat, maximize cooling breezes, but admittedly it’s been tough the last week. However, no A/C in the house, so no temptation. (A heater was installed (go figure) and I do succumb to that in the winter (alright, all you east coast types, feel free to snicker now).)

Are you back in the canyons off Santiago Canyon Road?

TexBetsy @ 163

Suzanne @ 160

66 here – still too hot to sleep tho – no a/c either

How cool does it need to be?

50’s but the 40’s at night are even better. with all the windows open so it stays nice and cool.

for what its worth, i rarely run my heater – use the wood stove instead for heat and lots of layers.

wigwam @ 166

I’m reading a lot about whether or not to “save” or “bailout” the subprime lenders. Where is the concern about the fate of the subprime borrowers?

Thus far, I have heard that concern only on Thom Hartmann’s show. Course I haven’t listened to anything on my own network Monday. Took the day off.

wigwam @ 166

I’m reading a lot about whether or not to “save” or “bailout” the subprime lenders. Where is the concern about the fate of the subprime borrowers?

You have to throw them out in the street in order to make room for new marks to steal from.

SteveAudio @ 156

peanutbutter @ 154

This is when I’m happy my house doesn’t have A/C or I’d be tempted…

Unless your house is incredibly well-designed and insulated, it would be a problem here. It’s 11:38 PDT, and it’s over 80 deg. outside.

we be about 1:45 am and it’s 78.
(austin, tx)

burnspbesq @ 169

peanutbutter @ 162

I’m in O.C. . I do have ceiling fans, and enough of a wind through the canyons that help and I have a system of when to open and close doors to minimize heat, maximize cooling breezes, but admittedly it’s been tough the last week. However, no A/C in the house, so no temptation. (A heater was installed (go figure) and I do succumb to that in the winter (alright, all you east coast types, feel free to snicker now).)

Are you back in the canyons off Santiago Canyon Road?

Not that far back, more like in the “foothills”.

Lessee, it was 106 deg. locally this afternoon, and the living room is still 94 deg. at quarter to one a.m.

My little window fan next to the computer is devoted to about two-thirds airflow to it, and about one-third to me… otherwise, I think I’d have melted chips and toasted hard drives….

yellowdog jim @ 173

SteveAudio @ 156

Unless your house is incredibly well-designed and insulated, it would be a problem here. It’s 11:38 PDT, and it’s over 80 deg. outside.

we be about 1:45 am and it’s 78.
(austin, tx)

I spent a few weeks on 2 different trips in Houston last year, putting together a recording studio for a friend.

Y’all have you some weather back there.

I agree wigwam. I think the homeowners should be able to negotiate a decent rate (6.375%)???, and the banks should have to eat any losses. I do own stock in Washington Mutual, but I still think fair is fair, and right is right.

I remember driving across the arizona desert (I10 from Palm Springs to Phoenix) one summer at 3am it was 93 outside.

Steve Audio, I’m in Fallbrook. (North SD County)

peanutbutter @ 174

burnspbesq @ 169

Are you back in the canyons off Santiago Canyon Road?

Not that far back, more like in the “foothills”.

Sounds like we’re practically neighbors. I’m in the flat part of Orange, not too far from the intersection of the 55 and the 22.

Austin is much better than Houston in terms of humidity. And mostt other things.

Key senator urges ouster of Iraq premier and aides

Government is `non-functional,’ Sen. Levin says

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That makes two countries destroyed by Bush.

TexBetsy @ 171

wigwam @ 166

I’m reading a lot about whether or not to “save” or “bailout” the subprime lenders. Where is the concern about the fate of the subprime borrowers?

Thus far, I have heard that concern only on Thom Hartmann’s show. Course I haven’t listened to anything on my own network Monday. Took the day off.

Clinton’s been on it — if she plays this right, it could be the new “It’s the economy, stupid” variation that could work for her as the earlier one did for her husband… Righties are of course bleating and blathering that it’s the borrowers own damn fault for getting stuck in such a predicament (god does that POV ever make my teeth grind…)

TexBetsy @ 181

Austin is much better than Houston in terms of humidity. And mostt other things.

amen to that. 77 in san antonio right now. TexB, are you doing ok?

burnspbesq @ 180

peanutbutter @ 174

Not that far back, more like in the “foothills”.

Sounds like we’re practically neighbors. I’m in the flat part of Orange, not too far from the intersection of the 55 and the 22.

I was down there last Sat. nite, taking Mom out to dinner for her BDay. She lives behind the Orange Mall.

SteveAudio @ 176

yellowdog jim @ 173

we be about 1:45 am and it’s 78.
(austin, tx)

I spent a few weeks on 2 different trips in Houston last year, putting together a recording studio for a friend.

Y’all have you some weather back there.

houston is a LOT more humid than austin.
new orleans is a LOT more humid than houston.
it’s all relative.
that’s why they call it relative humidity.

althespook @ 184

TexBetsy @ 181

Austin is much better than Houston in terms of humidity. And mostt other things.

amen to that. 77 in san antonio right now. TexB, are you doing ok?

I am indeed. There’s a teenager on a futon on the floor of my bedroom which complicates the issue of how to get from bed to bathroom, but I am doing pretty well.

TexBetsy @ 187

althespook @ 184

amen to that. 77 in san antonio right now. TexB, are you doing ok?

I am indeed. There’s a teenager on a futon on the floor of my bedroom which complicates the issue of how to get from bed to bathroom, but I am doing pretty well.

Good to hear! A better snack than last night?

Where do you live, Montag?

wigwam @ 166

I’m reading a lot about whether or not to “save” or “bailout” the subprime lenders. Where is the concern about the fate of the subprime borrowers?

Umm, in the grand scheme of things, residential borrowers are little people, and don’t count….

Some Dems have suggested putting up a $1 billion fund for that purpose, but, by the time they get around to thinking hard enough about it to get it passed, a lot of the damage will be done. And, it’s a drop in the bucket compared to what’s been done for the top end of the market just in the last ten days, and compared to the actual need.

Suzanne @ 178

I remember driving across the arizona desert (I10 from Palm Springs to Phoenix) one summer at 3am it was 93 outside.

i drove that route one august.
on a motorcycle.
very hot at night.
did not want to be there in daylight.

peanutbutter @ 188

TexBetsy @ 187

I am indeed. There’s a teenager on a futon on the floor of my bedroom which complicates the issue of how to get from bed to bathroom, but I am doing pretty well.

Good to hear! A better snack than last night?

Actually I have barely eaten today. Nauseous from the anesthesia and then just not hungry.

montag @ 190

wigwam @ 166

I’m reading a lot about whether or not to “save” or “bailout” the subprime lenders. Where is the concern about the fate of the subprime borrowers?

Umm, in the grand scheme of things, residential borrowers are little people, and don’t count….

Some Dems have suggested putting up a $1 billion fund for that purpose, but, by the time they get around to thinking hard enough about it to get it passed, a lot of the damage will be done. And, it’s a drop in the bucket compared to what’s been done for the top end of the market just in the last ten days, and compared to the actual need.

That’s what drives me nuts: they’ll drop 100bn to the lenders, but can’t spare a few extra million for the borrowers…

Loo Hoo. @ 189

Where do you live, Montag?

Southern NM.

yellowdog jim @ 186

SteveAudio @ 176

I spent a few weeks on 2 different trips in Houston last year, putting together a recording studio for a friend.

Y’all have you some weather back there.

houston is a LOT more humid than austin.
new orleans is a LOT more humid than houston.
it’s all relative.
that’s why they call it relative humidity.

I thought that was from all the sweat caused by the work you have to do when relatives come over to visit/stay?

peanutbutter @ 193

montag @ 190

Umm, in the grand scheme of things, residential borrowers are little people, and don’t count….

Some Dems have suggested putting up a $1 billion fund for that purpose, but, by the time they get around to thinking hard enough about it to get it passed, a lot of the damage will be done. And, it’s a drop in the bucket compared to what’s been done for the top end of the market just in the last ten days, and compared to the actual need.

That’s what drives me nuts: they’ll drop 100bn to the lenders, but can’t spare a few extra million for the borrowers…

Campaign contributors vs. voters. Guess who wins? We need a better educated electorate. And fair elections.

Loo Hoo. @ 179

Steve Audio, I’m in Fallbrook. (North SD County)

How close to Julian is that? Just wondering…

i never complain about the heat.
i have family in phoenix.
my grandma was born august 14th.
spent several an august in phoenix.

austin’s record for consecutive days over 100
is almost phoenix’s average.

tex, cassie told me she was going to sleep on the floor of your room in case you needed anything during the nite.

The first thing they should do for borrowers is make prepayment penalties illegal. Some of the home owners could qualify to refinance into a standard mortgage, but can’t come up with $20k for the ppp. It’s ridiculous.

montag @ 194

Loo Hoo. @ 189

Where do you live, Montag?

Southern NM.

i was born near alamogordo.

Suzanne @ 199

tex, cassie told me she was going to sleep on the floor of your room in case you needed anything during the nite.

Aha! I need to walk on a futon while drugged and needing both canes. Hmmm.

SteveAudio @ 197

Loo Hoo. @ 179

Steve Audio, I’m in Fallbrook. (North SD County)

How close to Julian is that? Just wondering…

Bout 70 minutes. I love Julian. Now there is a spot where I will eat a store bought pie!

As regards the real estate market panic…it is looking like the beginnings of the next great depression, friends. The Fed can throw money at it all it wants (and will), right up until the inflation monster really rears up, and at that point, the markets will expect more money and not get it, and then a real tsunami will break loose. The stock market is about 11% overvalued anyway, and a badly due correction is going to wipe us off the economic map.

The fault for this goes back to Greenspan’s policies, how he dealt with each earlier bubble.

yellowdog jim @ 201

montag @ 194

Southern NM.

i was born near alamogordo.

Father stationed at Holloman?

No matter how hot it is where you are, just be thankful you’re not in El Centro.

burnspbesq @ 206

No matter how hot it is where you are, just be thankful you’re not in El Centro.

Ha, ha, true, true…

burnspbesq @ 206

No matter how hot it is where you are, just be thankful you’re not in El Centro.

Or Barstow.

althespook @ 195

yellowdog jim @ 186

houston is a LOT more humid than austin.
new orleans is a LOT more humid than houston.
it’s all relative.
that’s why they call it relative humidity.

I thought that was from all the sweat caused by the work you have to do when relatives come over to visit/stay?

they don’t come over and i would don’t any work if they did.

You think we’re going into a depression, shadowstalker?

Shadowstalker @ 204

As regards the real estate market panic…it is looking like the beginnings of the next great depression, friends. The Fed can throw money at it all it wants (and will), right up until the inflation monster really rears up, and at that point, the markets will expect more money and not get it, and then a real tsunami will break loose. The stock market is about 11% overvalued anyway, and a badly due correction is going to wipe us off the economic map.

The fault for this goes back to Greenspan’s policies, how he dealt with each earlier bubble.

Unfortunately, its folks like me who are going to be impacted – don’t have anything left to cut in the budget except for online and I refuse to cut that.

montag @ 205

yellowdog jim @ 201

i was born near alamogordo.

Father stationed at Holloman?

exactly.

Loo Hoo. @ 210

You think we’re going into a depression, shadowstalker?

I think we are. There’s way too many of the same indicators now as there was in the 1920’s and the kicker — many of the FDR-enacted protections against a repeat of the 1929 crash are now gone…

There’s going to be a big event in the housing market in late October and early November. That’s when the lenders who are holding historically large inventories of foreclosed properties, and have so far refused to reduce their asking prices to align with new market realities, are going to have to sit down with their auditors. The auditors will force the writedowns, and the floodgates will burst.

Loo Hoo. @ 203

SteveAudio @ 197

How close to Julian is that? Just wondering…

Bout 70 minutes. I love Julian. Now there is a spot where I will eat a store bought pie!

My SD geography isn’t great, thanks.

I had a client, a born-again-Right Wing evangelical church (with a recording studio), who had some facility in Julian.

They were all outraged when the observatory wanted them to turn out their freakin lights at night, so the observatory could actually, you know, observe the sky.

Their evangelical outreach was more important than science.

peanutbutter @ 213

Loo Hoo. @ 210

You think we’re going into a depression, shadowstalker?

I think we are. There’s way too many of the same indicators now as there was in the 1920’s and the kicker — many of the FDR-enacted protections against a repeat of the 1929 crash are now gone…

Thanks to boosh

What about home mortgages and a depression. They can’t kick everyone out of their homes. What would banks do with a country full of empty homes?

Loo Hoo. @ 211

You think we’re going into a depression, shadowstalker?

Yes. Look at just how volatile the market is. Every little bit of news is causing triple-digit swings. Depressions used to be called “panics” because that’s exactly what happens. Lenders are causing ordinary people to doubt how safe their money/property are, and people are reacting accordingly by reducing spending (you and me, Suz, are in the same boat). Spending drops, jobs start dropping, vicious circle.

Loo Hoo. @ 218

What about home mortgages and a depression. They can’t kick everyone out of their homes. What would banks do with a country full of empty homes?

Why can’t they kick everyone out of their homes? Banks can hold onto the real estate as long as their own assets are covered. Then our righty-tighty government holds the real estate. Think they’ll let the little people keep it?

Suzanne @ 216

peanutbutter @ 213

I think we are. There’s way too many of the same indicators now as there was in the 1920’s and the kicker — many of the FDR-enacted protections against a repeat of the 1929 crash are now gone…

Thanks to boosh

Unfortunately, the biggie (to me) that restricted stock brokering and financial services under one corporate roof, was undone during the Clinton years, around 1997-8, as I recall.

Loo Hoo. @ 217

What about home mortgages and a depression. They can’t kick everyone out of their homes. What would banks do with a country full of empty homes?

Yeah, I mean at some point the banks will have to accept various creative refinancing options since they really aren’t in the real estate business and won’t want all this property. However, there’s going to be a lot of misery until we reach that point unless there’s some sort of intervention such as Clinton’s bill or something similar earlier on.

burnspbesq @ 214

There’s going to be a big event in the housing market in late October and early November. That’s when the lenders who are holding historically large inventories of foreclosed properties, and have so far refused to reduce their asking prices to align with new market realities, are going to have to sit down with their auditors. The auditors will force the writedowns, and the floodgates will burst.

Didn’t Capitol One and Countrywide just stopped issuing new mortgages???

Shadow – my place has been on the market since February. Still haven’t sold it and it is really priced just to cover the costs of the sale and get my down payment back.

I fear I am hosed – along with many, many others.

I guess people start living together. My friend is one of 5 sisters and they are all either divorced or widowed. They all have their own 3 to 4 bedroom homes. My friend thinks it is ridiculous, and that they should all live in one really nice resort style house.

Loo Hoo. @ 224

I guess people start living together. My friend is one of 5 sisters and they are all either divorced or widowed. They all have their own 3 to 4 bedroom homes. My friend thinks it is ridiculous, and that they should all live in one really nice resort style house.

I think family works better in close quarters. Kids really learn coping skills.

montag @ 220

Suzanne @ 216

Thanks to boosh

Unfortunately, the biggie (to me) that restricted stock brokering and financial services under one corporate roof, was undone during the Clinton years, around 1997-8, as I recall.

Yes, critical bits and pieces have been getting repealed from about the mid eighties onward, but I’d say the majority of them in the Bush years. That restriction, though, is a big one.

You know, the ones with the money push these things through eventually regardless of Rep or Dem admins. It just seems to take longer when it’s Dems.

Although, I read an article somewhere (and am kicking myself fo not saving a link to it) that postulated that the rollbacks were able to happen once people who actually remembered what happened and what it was like in the 20’s and 30’s were no longer alive. The same repeals that have occurred in the last 15 years ago were also proposed for repeal in the 70s but massive protest by people who still remembered stopped that. It was an interesting theory, don’t know how much legs it has.

In any case, here we are now…

I am one of those folks who do best living alone. This is the first time I have ever lived alone and I thrive on it.

Suzanne @ 227

I am one of those folks who do best living alone. This is the first time I have ever lived alone and I thrive on it.

But you don’t need a large house.

Shadowstalker @ 219

Loo Hoo. @ 218

What about home mortgages and a depression. They can’t kick everyone out of their homes. What would banks do with a country full of empty homes?

Why can’t they kick everyone out of their homes? Banks can hold onto the real estate as long as their own assets are covered. Then our righty-tighty government holds the real estate. Think they’ll let the little people keep it?

If it came down to that you’d see some real democracy in action.

I don’t have a large house, Tex. 1086 sq feet, 2 bed 1 bath. About the same size as the 2bed/1bath apt I lived in for 11 years before being able to finally buy a house.

Suzanne @ 230

I don’t have a large house, Tex. 1086 sq feet, 2 bed 1 bath. About the same size as the 2bed/1bath apt I lived in for 11 years before being able to finally buy a house.

Right.

Different situation than Loo Hoo was talking about.

peanutbutter @ 226

You know, the ones with the money push these things through eventually regardless of Rep or Dem admins. It just seems to take longer when it’s Dems.

Although, I read an article somewhere (and am kicking myself fo not saving a link to it) that postulated that the rollbacks were able to happen once people who actually remembered what happened and what it was like in the 20’s and 30’s were no longer alive. The same repeals that have occurred in the last 15 years ago were also proposed for repeal in the 70s but massive protest by people who still remembered stopped that. It was an interesting theory, don’t know how much legs it has.

In any case, here we are now…

Some, certainly. I remember someone from Texas telling me that home equity loans were illegal in Texas until about nine or ten years ago, because they were based on a value that was speculative, rather than actual.

The financial types weren’t about to let a big housing market like Texas remain unplucked, so, it was changed during the Bush-Perry years.

This boom has gone on because people weren’t able–or inclined–to live within their means, and that goes in spades for the ones at the top of the financial markets who created this insane Ponzi scheme. The money borrowed at that level for leverage purposes may turn out to be much, much more than was dumped into mortgages with fly-by-night terms.

Here is some recent data on mortgage defaults in California.

http://www.dqnews.com/RRFor0707.shtm

What’s missing from this report is any measure of the percentage of total loans that are in default.

The stat that I find interesting is the age of the loans that went into default in Q2. Unfortunately, a lot of these are loans that should never have been made, to people who really had no business trying to buy a house.

The percentage of variable-rate loans is, at least for me, mind-blowingly high. And that’s where the danger is. The Fed will come under intense pressure to keep interest rates down, in order to keep the rates on those loans from resetting upwards, which would turbo-charge the default rate. Which means inflation will once again rear its ugly head. Yummy.

A good site to read is Generational Dynamics..it talks about those cycles and makes predictions based upon them. I disagree with some of the author’s conclusions, but his reasoning is solid. Also refer to the bood “The Fourth Turning”, by Bill Strauss and Neil Howe, provided you remember that Strauss is a wingnut while you read his work.

“bood”, hmmm…..must be almost time to go home. :-)

you at work, shadow?

Definitely time for me to go to bed…! See ya’ll…erm…later today, I guess…

Shadowstalker @ 235

“bood”, hmmm…..must be almost time to go home. :-)

Where are you now?

Night PB?

burnspbesq @ 233

Here is some recent data on mortgage defaults in California.

http://www.dqnews.com/RRFor0707.shtm

What’s missing from this report is any measure of the percentage of total loans that are in default.

Here’s a hint of that, though. 8.3% of housing sales in CA currently are foreclosures….

Suzanne @ 236

you at work, shadow?

Yup. I worry about my job, too. How long will they need overnight people at a bank when banks start to fail?

Yea, I better hit it too. Manana!

Time to call it a night. First day of school awaits, and the chaos will start at sunrise.

Pleasant dreams, everyone.

night loo hoo

and good night burns

montag @ 232

peanutbutter @ 226

You know, the ones with the money push these things through eventually regardless of Rep or Dem admins. It just seems to take longer when it’s Dems.

Although, I read an article somewhere (and am kicking myself fo not saving a link to it) that postulated that the rollbacks were able to happen once people who actually remembered what happened and what it was like in the 20’s and 30’s were no longer alive. The same repeals that have occurred in the last 15 years ago were also proposed for repeal in the 70s but massive protest by people who still remembered stopped that. It was an interesting theory, don’t know how much legs it has.

In any case, here we are now…

Some, certainly. I remember someone from Texas telling me that home equity loans were illegal in Texas until about nine or ten years ago, because they were based on a value that was speculative, rather than actual.

The financial types weren’t about to let a big housing market like Texas remain unplucked, so, it was changed during the Bush-Perry years.

This boom has gone on because people weren’t able–or inclined–to live within their means, and that goes in spades for the ones at the top of the financial markets who created this insane Ponzi scheme. The money borrowed at that level for leverage purposes may turn out to be much, much more than was dumped into mortgages with fly-by-night terms.

that is true about texas.
used to be in the texas constitution.
liens on your homestead were not able to remove the owner (or something like that), so no one would make a home equity loan in texas.

or something close to that anyway.
then bu$hite$ finagled the voters to amend the constitution.

peanutbutter @ 221

Loo Hoo. @ 217

What about home mortgages and a depression. They can’t kick everyone out of their homes. What would banks do with a country full of empty homes?

Yeah, I mean at some point the banks will have to accept various creative refinancing options since they really aren’t in the real estate business and won’t want all this property. However, there’s going to be a lot of misery until we reach that point unless there’s some sort of intervention such as Clinton’s bill or something similar earlier on.

no the banks won’t have to accept being land owners

when a depression comes money doesn’t just disappear

it changes hands

the ones whose hands it goes to
(i call them the vampire empire)
buy that property at very low cost
becoming owners of vast amounts of land

unless they are stymied by state action

of course if they have managed to usurp the functions of independent government,they are in that case,the state itself.

the memory of the last great depression are still with us

though the protections have been abrogated,that abrogation is a very recent occurrence and where,when they were first put in place they were untried and experimental,now the replacement of those protections will be a formal recognition of tried and true regulations

we are not floundering in the dark as they did in those dark days

there is nothing to fear but fear itself

brace yourself kids
we’re in for a bumpy ride

And then the bill from the IRS comes.

Shadowstalker @ 241

Suzanne @ 236

you at work, shadow?

Yup. I worry about my job, too. How long will they need overnight people at a bank when banks start to fail?

man, i am so out of it:
can the (in this day and age) banks fail?
doesn’t the government Have to back them up?
even if with funny money?
don’t we have your FDIC-types, anyway?

The FDIC is a government-owned insurance company. I look at that combo and cringe anyway, personally, with our current government. If they print up more money to cover payouts in the amounts they’d be paying out (most banks have assets in the billions), inflation would be a mother. Remember pictures from the ’30s of Germans pushing grocery carts of currency to buy a loaf of bread?

I don’t mean to be such a downer on the subject, really. It is possible to pull out of these things, but what it would take will alter America for a long time to come. We do have FDR’s road map, true. He had to fight Republicans every step of the way also, as you might recall.

looks pretty close to landfall for Dean.

burnspbesq @ 248

And then the bill from the IRS comes.

Noooooooooooo

yellowdog jim @ 249

man, i am so out of it:
can the (in this day and age) banks fail?
doesn’t the government Have to back them up?
even if with funny money?
don’t we have your FDIC-types, anyway?

Umm, banks do fail these days. Not a lot of noise about it, though. Right now, I think the daily rate of cash held by financial institutions is something like $65 billion. If there’s 150 million households in the country, that’s something less than $500 per household per day. The actual accounts in those institutions are worth, probably, a couple of trillion or so. Could the government cover that in the event of a massive run on banks across the country?

Probably not. So, the banks would close. And, a lot of people have been seduced into non-FDIC accounts with higher interest rates for that reason….

I am once again glad to be a renter. Though if people keep losing their homes, they may all end up here in the apts.

Shadowstalker @ 250

The FDIC is a government-owned insurance company. I look at that combo and cringe anyway, personally, with our current government. If they print up more money to cover payouts in the amounts they’d be paying out (most banks have assets in the billions), inflation would be a mother. Remember pictures from the ’30s of Germans pushing grocery carts of currency to buy a loaf of bread?

I don’t mean to be such a downer on the subject, really. It is possible to pull out of these things, but what it would take will alter America for a long time to come. We do have FDR’s road map, true. He had to fight Republicans every step of the way also, as you might recall.

well, given that it is that bleak, then wouldn’t this be a windfall for the Democrats; the repudiation of Republickan economics; a motive force to put the government back in charge of oversight and regulation?

like, wouldn’t this big a fuck up, really screw the rethugs?

Do you think people with savings will put their money in FDIC banks?

Yellowdog…

For the long term, yes. It should put the ‘thugs back into the wilderness for about a generation, just like it did with Hoover’s party. Americans will be forced by events to reassess what they expect from their own government, and it will take hold with a lot of hard work.

IMHO, anyway.

montag @ 253

yellowdog jim @ 249

man, i am so out of it:
can the (in this day and age) banks fail?
doesn’t the government Have to back them up?
even if with funny money?
don’t we have your FDIC-types, anyway?

Umm, banks do fail these days. Not a lot of noise about it, though. Right now, I think the daily rate of cash held by financial institutions is something like $65 billion. If there’s 150 million households in the country, that’s something less than $500 per household per day. The actual accounts in those institutions are worth, probably, a couple of trillion or so. Could the government cover that in the event of a massive run on banks across the country?

Probably not. So, the banks would close. And, a lot of people have been seduced into non-FDIC accounts with higher interest rates for that reason….

like i say, i know next to zero:
but i am imagining that the feds
(especially if democrats are in charge)
would step in stop a catastrophic collapse of the banking system.

not because they love us, but because it would be bad for business?

TexBetsy @ 256

Do you think people with savings will put their money in FDIC banks?

Or under the mattress. I must admit to having a large chunk of money hidden away in cash. Enough to live on for a little while.

TexBetsy @ 256

Do you think people with savings will put their money in FDIC banks?

i think the fdic protects you up to like $50K.
per bank, if not per account?

peanutbutter @ 193

montag @ 190

Umm, in the grand scheme of things, residential borrowers are little people, and don’t count….

Some Dems have suggested putting up a $1 billion fund for that purpose, but, by the time they get around to thinking hard enough about it to get it passed, a lot of the damage will be done. And, it’s a drop in the bucket compared to what’s been done for the top end of the market just in the last ten days, and compared to the actual need.

That’s what drives me nuts: they’ll drop 100bn to the lenders, but can’t spare a few extra million for the borrowers…

Crybaby capitalism. Give them good times, and they all take about how risk takers are self-made men and deserve high ROI and about the evils of entitlements. But the minute they see bad times on the horizon, they’re talking about the government’s responsibiity to “we the people.”

it’s been fun, my Pupmates, But
i am conking out.

bye.

“crybaby capitalism”
good one.

I have to go home now, too. Again, sorry to be a bummer. I hold all y’all in absolutely the highest regard.

Until tomorrow!

For over a week now, Glenn Greenwald has been beating the Foreign Policy Community like a rented mule. Each time one of them protests, he kicks it up a notch. It’s truly delightful.

Night Jim & Shadow

fun pic

yellowdog jim @ 258

like i say, i know next to zero:
but i am imagining that the feds
(especially if democrats are in charge)
would step in stop a catastrophic collapse of the banking system.

not because they love us, but because it would be bad for business?

Sure, but what happened in the period from 1929-1933 with bank closures was the banks simply didn’t have the cash to cover those runs, so they closed. That was the impetus to create the FDIC and to demand that banks have a certain percentage of funds on hand on a daily basis.

Now, the cash-on-hand percentage is something like 0.8-1.0% of outstanding accounts (on the theory that having too much cash on hand is a drag on the economy if it’s not out on loan and earning interest). The treasury doesn’t have the cash on hand, either, to cover a few trillion in FDIC claims if there were a massive, country-wide run, so they would just print more money, and inflation goes through the roof. It’s a no-win situation if there’s a massive run.

The FDIC rules are meant not to cover the losses in the event of a huge run–they’re meant to convince people not to worry and, therefore, prevent a run.

yellowdog jim @ 258

like i say, i know next to zero:
but i am imagining that the feds
(especially if democrats are in charge)
would step in stop a catastrophic collapse of the banking system.

Yeah, it’s bad for business and the GOP spends 40 years in the desert afterwards. It last happened in Hoover’s era.

Now Bernake is “helicoptering” cash into the banking system to maintain liquidity and organizing pools of loans at reduced rates to help banks in trouble.

Countrywide got a credit line of $11.5 billion in cash, but they have spent more than 3/4 of it since it was arranged just a few business days back… But Bernake won’t let them run out of cash.

Some of my news ninja stuff:

# Editorial: Not Paying for Medical Errors
from NYT > Opinion
# More Students Finish School, Given the Time
from NYT > Home Page
# Arianna connects the dots.
from Think Progress
# Former party school now tops job placement list -…
from Google News
# New political cartoons
from Political Teen Tidbits
# Saddam aides go on trial in Iraq
from BBC News | News Front Page | World Edition
# Average Incomes Fell for Most in 2000-5
from NYT > Home Page
# Still confused about Social Security
from Crooks and Liars
# Historical Quote of the Day “A moment I’ve been …
from Cliff Schecter
# Omid Memarian: Is US Preparing to Attack Iran?

Countrywide got that cash but their ceo (iirc) has taken out more than half a billion over his tenure with stock options, sales, etc.

Uh, Dean is approaching the Yucatan coastline, and its central pressure is now down to 909mb.

And far too many Mexicans live in sub-standard housing that won’t hold up to those winds.

that is not good news on its pressure montag.

time for me to head off to bed so i can be a civil person when spurious comes to visit tomorrow

Suzanne have a great visit with Spurious.

Time for me to crash. G’nite everybody.

Sleep well wigwam

montag @ 271

Uh, Dean is approaching the Yucatan coastline, and its central pressure is now down to 909mb.

Yeah it crossed over a lot of open warm water, there is no shear to disrupt it… The last reports I saw headlined “catastrophic”.

1100 PM EDT MON AUG 20 2007
DEAN HAS TAPPED INTO ENERGY PROVIDED BY THE DEEP WARM WATERS OF THE NORTHWESTERN CARIBBEAN SEA THIS EVENING…AND HAS REACHED CATEGORY FIVE STATUS WITH AN INTENSITY OF 140 KT. DURING THE LAST PENETRATION BY THE AIR FORCE RESERVE UNIT RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT AT 00Z…A CENTRAL PRESSURE OF 914 MB WAS MEASURED.

200 AM EDT TUE AUG 21 2007
…POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC HURRICANE DEAN BEARING DOWN ON THE EAST COAST OF THE YUCATAN PENINSULA…
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 160 MPH…260 KM/HR…WITH HIGHER GUSTS. DEAN IS A POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON HURRICANE SCALE..

HURRICANE DEAN TROPICAL CYCLONE UPDATE…CORRECTED
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL042007
225 AM EDT TUE AUG 21 2007

…CORRECTED DAY OF WEEK AND DATE IN HEADER…

DROPSONDE DATA FROM THE AIR FORCE RESERVE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT
INDICATE THAT THE MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IN THE EYE OF HURRICANE
DEAN IS NOW 909 MB…26.84 INCHES.

$$
FORECASTER PASCH/BROWN

Me3 @ 277

montag @ 271

Uh, Dean is approaching the Yucatan coastline, and its central pressure is now down to 909mb.

Yeah it crossed over a lot of open warm water, there is no shear to disrupt it… The last reports I saw headlined “catastrophic”.

Any sense of whether it will head towards TX?

TexBetsy @ 278

Any sense of whether it will head towards TX?

The current three-day forecast is for it to turn due west in the Bay of Campeche on the north side of the Yucatan peninsula and go directly west into central southern Mexico.

time to try the sleep thing again.

night all

TexBetsy @ 278

Any sense of whether it will head towards TX?

Nope, this will die in the high desert over central Mexico.

Three Day Track

Let’s see if this link works and you can see the latest forecasted storm track.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/index.shtml?

^^ It comes from this page.

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WO…..cane.dean/

Squalls of heavy rain and wind were rolling on shore in the Yucatan, where conditions were rapidly deteriorating ahead of landfall.

Dean is already blamed for at least seven deaths across the Caribbean, including two in Haiti, two in both Martinique and Dominica, and one in St. Lucia.

The area where the eye is expected to come ashore is rural and sparsely populated. However, hurricane force winds extended 60 miles (100 km) from the center, and tropical storm conditions extended 175 miles (280 km).

http://seattletimes.nwsource.c…..ide21.html

Countrywide eliminates 500 mortgage jobs

Captial One Cuts 1900 Mortgage Positions … Slashes Profit Forecast

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/….._0820.html

At the bottom of the page is a video of Andy Rooney from CBS’s 60 Minutes, broadcast on August 19.

He forgot about Jeff Gannon tho…

OK ok already… Last post then I am gonna “rest my eyes”

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/…..-subpoena/

^^ Interesting article at Think Progress on the Leahy press briefing.

Good morning, pups. The NYT has TOMC taking note of Leona Helmsley’s demise and Bob Herbert writing about a new HBO documentary on the Iraq war.

http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/

Coffee and tea are ready, and the Thomas’ English muffins are hot out of the toaster. Have a great day.

good morning Marion, 68 and partly cloudy in Trendy Blue Ridge GA. And I just had an english muffin with marmalade.
Looking at a dry 97, and I’ll be restaining the vacation cabin of a Captain who delivers yachts to wealthy customers. He says business is still great..

Good morning!

MR. Bill, it’s 77 here already, and we’re scheduled to hit 100. Again. The 3 new camellias I put in this spring are now brown twigs. I live in hope that they’re just hibernating, but doubt it.

Good Morning!

Rachel Maddow to be on Washington Journal for an hour starting at 8:30, iirc

thanks for the English muffins!

Well we’ve not had significant rain in 2 weeks. One job had just planted $3000 in landscaping (ilex, hibiscus, butterfly bush, creeping raspberry, azalea…) and I’m having to water daily…The forest looks stressed, sourwoods starting to turn early, and poplars going brown..
My well went dry Saturday, and just came back enough to use sparingly.
My landlord says that a number of well have gone out in this neighborhood, which is also the home of Georgia Mountain Water (division of Suntory Inc.) that is pulling 200K gallons a day from a well 1/2 a mile down the road. The State Hydrologist says it couldn’t possibly impact wells in the area.
Common sense would argue otherwise.

via c-span: senator dodd is quoted as saying that he is strongly against impeachment hearings as it could cause democrats to lose the presidental race (and others?) in 2008 elections. did anyone hear this? did i hear correctly? anyone hear the source?

morning all.

MR. Bill -

Any way of checking to find out whether that state hydrologist is living high on the hog? Common sense tells *me* he’s pulling $$$ from GA. Mtn H20. I shared a well with just one neighbor for a number of years with no water problems. As soon as several other wells were drilled close by, our water level went to pot.

selise -

All I’m hearing is hurricane, hurricane……..like there’s nothing else happening in the world.

Waccamaw @ 296

selise -

All I’m hearing is hurricane, hurricane……..like there’s nothing else happening in the world.

Duh, just a bunch on Mexicans anyway.

Waccamaw, I can’t answer, just saw a piece in the local paper. Georgia has no state severance taxes, so the Japanese company is getting a public resource for free.
And two days of carrying water, taking showers at friends is too much. I’m willing to conserve, but dang, if it’s gonna be sucked out to put in $1.29 bottles at 12 oz each, I’m screwed.

Let me add that a professional geologist of my acquaintance says ‘the hydrology of the Southern Appalachians is poorly understood..’

raven -

Yeh, can’t walk and chew gum at the same time, can they? Seems like they’re getting increasingly stupid about actually encouraging “citizen journalists” to risk life and limb to send in pics. Duh, indeed.

MR. Bill -

Another example of the *little* people getting scr*wed by big business.

I feel your pain, darlin’; I spent two weeks several summers ago not being able to use water to bath, wash clothes or dishes, or flush the toilet because of septic tank problems while continuing to live in the house. It was NOT a pleasant experience……

Yeh, can’t walk and chew gum at the same time, can they? Seems like they’re getting increasingly stupid about actually encouraging “citizen journalists” to risk life and limb to send in pics. Duh, indeed.

I fully expect some TV station to tether a small weatherperson (and Jim Cantore is short, btw) and fly them like a kite during some hurricane coverage…Great pics there.

MR. Bill @ 301

Yeh, can’t walk and chew gum at the same time, can they? Seems like they’re getting increasingly stupid about actually encouraging “citizen journalists” to risk life and limb to send in pics. Duh, indeed.

I fully expect some TV station to tether a small weatherperson (and Jim Cantore is short, btw) and fly them like a kite during some hurricane coverage…Great pics there.

I can think of some people who would be great for the job!

And a good good morning to all. It’s 59 degrees F with light rain in the Southern Tier of Upstate New York and frankly, it feels like October this morning. Dark, damp, chilly and rainy. Dang. Just when the tomatoes are coming in…hope everyone is having a good breakfast – at my house, it’s raisin bran (ahem).

Toby Wollin @ 303

And a good good morning to all. It’s 59 degrees F with light rain in the Southern Tier of Upstate New York and frankly, it feels like October this morning. Dark, damp, chilly and rainy. Dang. Just when the tomatoes are coming in…hope everyone is having a good breakfast – at my house, it’s raisin bran (ahem).

Damn you Toby, send us some cool air and rain down here..My tomatoes have played out, not matter how much I water.
And it’s off to Captain Bob’s, Ya’ll take it easy and keep the faith.
“the tyrant fears laughter more than the assassins’ bullet..”

Why does the Bush Administration hate children?

Come on upstairs for the latest horror story in Scarecrow’s early morning thread:

Bush To Kids: Forget About More Public Health Care