Lane Hudson, whose publication of the initial Mark Foley emails played no small part in the 2006 Democratic victories, is at it again. This time he’s filed a complaint with the FEC against reluctant-virgin-cum-lobbyist Fred Thompson:
A liberal activist today lodged a complaint (LINK HERE) with the Federal Election Commission against former Sen. Fred Thompson, R-Tenn., contending that Thompson’s “testing the waters” committee has long since surpassed that designation and that he, for all intents and purposes, is a candidate for president.
This is not without precedent. Previous pre-candidates who tried the “testing the waters” committee — including Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., Rev. Pat Robertson, and Rev. Al Sharpton — invited FEC scrutiny.
The rule is pretty simple. If you spend more than $5,000 on campaign activities, you’re a candidate, whether or not you’ve officially declared. The question is what constitutes “testing the waters” activity, and what constitutes “candidate” activity.
In 2004 the conservative National and Legal Policy Center filed a complaint with the FEC (LINK HERE) alleging Sharpton was using the “testing the waters” committee to run an “off-the-books campaign,” not declaring his candidacy officially while clearly a candidate, thus avoiding disclosure rules. The FEC investigated the matter, and arrived at a settlement with Sharpton.
The FEC ruled that Robertson had violated the “testing the waters” rules in 1988, fining him $25,000.
The campaigns of some of Thompson’s potential GOP rivals have groused — off the record — that Thompson is similarly skirting the law.
As candidates go Thompson seems a bit of a duffer, but in typical GOP fashion he’s got to break a few laws even when he’s half-assing it.
BTW, did you know Rudy Giuliani spent more time in the mines than the miners? S’true.
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zunoed?
Ho ho?
All Right! Hey Jane!
Cracked me up.
It’s kind of like sleep walking?
Dang. Missed it.
OK dakine01, I’ll let you do the chores while I read up.
Bob in HI
Decide, Fred. You know you can do it…
I hope he gets Thompson fined big.
Didn’t someone on an earlier thread say that Thompson was delaying his announcement so he could keep receiving residuals on his TV show? IIRC, the idea was the stations couldn’t air his show anymore after he declared.
So, what kind of mines they got in NYC? Rhinestones,Treakle,Fuzz Bunnies?
Did you hear that Rudy spent more time at Waco than the ATF agents? More time at the New England floods last year than FEMA? More hours at Dover AFB than the photographers?
Why waste time on Fred?
He’s got one foot in the grave.
He aint going to survive any presidential campaign.
He’s the shiny object.
The target against which Dems can fire their shells.
While Rudy coasts to nomination.
MayDaze @ 8
that seems about right … and prolly not just residuals, but also continued exposure.
“Rudy Giuliani spent more time in the mines than the miners?”
Is it because he is a miner’s mendacious tool?….
Ed*ard Teller @ 10
Gee, I thought it was just Yankee Games.
wow!! the posts are coming fast and furious today… jane is on a roll – be easy my dear :o) ahhh ole lazy fred… wants his people to run for his lazy ass…. while he lies back in the cut – sheesh
Has anybody heard whether or not the US House is considering bringing Don Young up on ethics charges when they re-convene?
Fred is waiting until he gets his facial botox injections done.
“As candidates go Thompson seems a bit of a duffer, but in typical GOP fashion he’s got to break a few laws even when he’s half-assing it.”
lmao
dakine01 @ 3
Hi dakine.
Senator McCain and Senator Lieberman to Thompson in a future GOP candidate debate forum, “We’ve spent more time in Iraq than you have so we have the right to say WE are winning the war.”
Put a black bar across his eyes and he looks like some guy in the back of an 70’s swinger magazine.
AZ Matt @ 17
That is so not going to help him…
He look like a human blood hound….
Speaking of presidential contenders (NOT),
I’m beginning to think once again that the
WarOccupation of Iraq is one Big Shiny Object designed to hold Democrats transfixed so that they won’t, say, impeach the pants off of Gonzales, Cheney and Bush. Sort of an unwritten collusion between Bush and the Democrats: “I’ll appear intransigent on the War and give you a big target, if you won’t impeach me.”You ever been to a dog track where they put a rabbit or something fuzzy on the end of a stick and then turn the dogs loose? The stick is on a big pivot which turns fast enough to keep about 5 yards ahead of the lead dog. I’m sure they have a name for that Lead Bunny, but I don’t know what it is. Except that’s the
WarOccupation of Iraq that is dangled in front of the Democrats, who are too simple minded to understand the game.Bob in HI
Ed*ard Teller @ 16
Heather Wilson hasn’t been questioned by them yet, as far as I know. Hope you aren’t holding your breath, ET.
AZ Matt @ 17
I still think he requires grout.
Jane, I’m panting here. Girl! You must be Winged Victory. I need a cool drink of water, again, before going on.
I agree with Tweety about Fred Thompson smelling, we disagree on what he smells like, though. Unlike Tweety, I’m not looking for a Daddy smell. I’m looking for someone who doesn’t stink of corruption.
Maybe Fred’s much younger, bodacious 2nd wife is keeping him up with anticipation of candidating himself. The non-makeup’d Fred’s been looking quite laggard lately, very unLaw&Orderishly so.
Also, I miss Lennie Briscoe.
Hey, I did say back during the discussion about the YouTube debate is that the first GOPer to break the rules would win!
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MayDaze @ 8
Yep, that’s an issue. As long as those old shows are in reruns, it’s free publicity.
Bob in HI
Bustednuckles @ 4
I sort of thinking more like the “Night of the Living Dead”….
Marretta @ 27
Would that be Aqua Velva or Old Spice? Hai Karate?
well, i’ve been epu’d all day long…….so, go back and read comments y’all………left many comments…..
decided to jump ahead not reading the last thread’s comments, and come upon ol’ fred………..
how amusing………..lane hudson, thorn in the side of denny hastert, calling out fred to be honest and forthright……..
we’ll see how far this goes, about as far as mark foley did…….
sorry, but fred is famous, and the public is in shock and awe of him, and will let him slide.
even posters here are a little afraid of ol’ fred……and jealous of him…….and in admiration of him……
me? he gives me the creeps, always has, creepy creeps, and i hope that is the overriding factor that plays out.
what! fred thinks he’s the shit and everyone is waiting to anoint him as der leader? the arrogance of repugs
ticktock @ 22
Diggity Bush Dog?
do-si-do @ 28
Does this mean you think the rest of the goopers have been following the rules? ;)
Every time I see a photo of Fred I remember old Saturday night television.. Creature Feature.
and fred is avoiding declaring so he doesn’t have to do any debates……..by the time it’s honed on down, it’s about rhetoric, no off the cuff talk, he’s avoiding that………..
I thinks Mr. Giuliani has been boning up on The Great Historical Bum.http://www.whitetreeaz.com/yfof/histbum.htm
Covers just about everything, Rudy, that you are laying claim to..including managing the construction of the Pyramids.
Eureka Springs @ 37
Like This
MayDaze @ 37
Perish the thought! Just want to see who breaks ‘em with the most impunity…
Millineryman @ 41
On a good night..)
bobschacht @ 31
I think the problem is that all of the other actors, producers, camera people etc. don’t get their money, so he held off announcing. That said, slimeballery is a republican determining trait.
This, sickens me;
http://www.theglobeandmail.com…..oto_op0820
even posters here are a little afraid of ol’ fred……and jealous of him…….and in admiration of him……
Who, dmac?
dmac @ 34
Even Fox can’t help making fun of this guy.
He’s got loser written all over him.
How can you be in awe of a guy who politics at a State Fair out of a golf cart…
Thompson/Lieberman…..finally a pair to draw to..make fun of..cast aside.
Jane:
Rudy G = Tommy Flinaygin (sp?)
“Yea, that the ticket, I was the hero of 911, yea that’s it”
Loo Hoo. @ 43
Given the number of years that Law & Order has been on the air, I’d guess they have plenty of shows to cover the residuals of most staffers without worrying about the “DA Arthur Branch” years.
MayDaze @ 25
Plaster of Paris Hilton…
Here are some Rudy quotes from an article in 2002 (and a pic of his girlfriend at the link)
“It was the worst day of my life – and maybe, it was the greatest day.”
“If you had withdrawn a lot of police officers and firefighters from the building, if communications had worked better, you might have ended up with 3,000-4,000 more civilians dead.”
“When you act in a way that kills innocent people, you have just excluded yourself from civilised countries… and your cause is unjust.”
millenaryman at 21 says-”Put a black bar across his eyes and he looks like some guy in the back of an 70’s swinger magazine.”
rofl……really,that’s why…..that’s it, why he gives me the creepy creeps………
do-si-do @ 41
It’s a macho thing for ‘em – who can be the most audacious.
That pix up top of Fred almost makes Dick Cheney look like a marathon runner. The photos I’ve seen of Mr. Thompson do not exactly inspire confidence. I really don’t mean to mean here, but if I were Freddy I’d be browsing rest-home brochures, not briefing books.
dmac @ 39
There’s always the chance somebody’s trying to pull of a “Weekend at Bernie’s” wheeling Fred around pretending he has not left this mortal coil….
That’s why no declarations regarding his presidency…
Elliott @ 24
Not holding my breath, but each day brings something new. The insertion of his Florida road study earmark was distinctly unethical. The only reason it wasn’t against House rules was because nobody thought any member would try that.
Then again, as Jane just reminded us – ” but in typical GOP fashion he’s got to break a few laws even when he’s half-assing it.”
For a party with so much hate for Hollywood, the GOP seems to really like Hollywood presidents.
this has probably been posted all ready
but if we are pickin’ on Fred
Schlozman Out at Justice Department
Now this is interesting. One more bites the dust.
Sometimes here I feel as if I’m back in 1964.
People sitting in a circle singing Kumbaya.
Feels good.
Feels good, but the war goes on.
The war in my estimation is to regain control of the House and Senate.
Lane Hudson rocks
Oklahoma kiddo @ 58
I think the dominant emotion was envy, not hate.
Bob in HI
How clever is it that General Petreas will be delivering his report to congress on September 11th?
Jonathan @ 61
Who needs that?
After Chimpy’s power grab, all we need is a Dem President, then they can run over Congress just like BushCo.
/snark
Can’t you just picture Rudy coming out of a telephone booth wearing a red cape and tights signing “here I come to save the day, Mighty Mouse is on his way”? Yep. Super Rudy. Watch out for the Kriptonite, while you bombing everybody, Mr. Mayor. And Bernie Kerik can play Jimmy Olsen.
I want to know who Bush is going to endorse, and when.
Loo Hoo. @ 64
Bush is such a bast*rd
MayDaze @ 54
Yeah, like a seven year old streaking through mom and dad’s cocktail party…”oh, he’s so cute, the scamp!”
Breaking Fred Thompson news: Fred wore Gucci loafers, to the Iowa State Fair. However, RawStory notes there are doubts about the accuracy of this report. But Fred has been accused of Gucci wearing previously.
__________________
On Sunday, however, Fox News hosts were laughing about Thompson’s appearing at the Iowa Fair in Gucci loafers. Fox’s Ellen Ratner said, “It’s kind of like when Howard Dean’s wife came and looked like crunchy granola. You don’t go to Iowa, or any place else in the country, unless you’re going to Rodeo Drive in Hollywood, and wear Gucci shoes. It’s just not a smart idea.”
The Gucci loafer incident has already given rise to a tempest in the blogs. Ryan Sager, blogging at the New York Sun, has discovered that when Thompson ran for the Senate in 1994, his opponent described him as a “Gucci-wearing, Lincoln-driving, Perrier-drinking, Grey Poupon-spreading millionaire Washington special-interest lobbyist.” Pajamas Media, on the other hand, has raised doubts about the story, pointing out that the loafers do not come in larger than a size 12 and Thompson wears a 13.
Me3 @ 67
I thought Mary Matalin was with Fred. Which would mean the neo-cons probably all are.
Loo Hoo. @ 71
it seemed that way from the start.
Me3 @ 66
If he were a dem, his endorsement would be a kiss of death as he is toxic for all but the 28%ers. But as an R, the 28%ers are the ones who vote.
And I do like whenever Jon Soltz is on Hardball or Countdown. (He’s on Hardball – hosted by Mike Barnicle today up against some R vet org “leader” trying to make light of the GIs who wrote the editorial in yesterday’s NY Times)
Rudy: It was the worst of times and the best of times.
Loo Hoo. @ 64
Majority Mistrustful of Iraq Report… A majority of Americans don’t trust the upcoming report by the Army’s top commander in Iraq on the progress of the war and even if they did, it wouldn’t change their mind, according to a new poll.
The GOP war machine is down the political tubes, it is no longer politically feasable for the GOP to continue it. It is political suicide.
loohoo at 46 says-”Who, dmac?”
well, you can tell in their comments…..over the last few months….envy……..not namin’ names………not my thing………
he’s famous, he’s a famous actor, he was a senator, he was a lobbyist and made millions, he has a ‘titty’ wife………..the comments of ‘he doth protest too much’ have said a lot to me…………many of them……..they may say, i hate fred, but their other side comments say much more to me………..
is interesting that you didn’t notice it, you notice everything.
maybe they disguised it well………but it was there all the same, i saw it……..but maybe that was because i already knew his politics, and have always been aware of him, so when he came on the scene was nuthin’ new to me……well, was at first back last year…….when he first stood up for libby………
fred thompson……..regurgitate……….
Me3 @ 66
The kiss of death.
MayDaze @ 76
Hillary?
ccmask @ 73
I fixed your typo
ccmask @ 73
Rudy: It was a dark and stormy night.
Bush will endorse the nominee.
dakine01 @ 73
I guess bush has to endorse someone … it’s hard to imagine it being anything other than a problem. the dead-enders are going to vote for whatever thug they run, and for everyone else, it’s hard to see a chimpy-endorsement as anything positive …
everyone will be running against bush in ‘08.
rudy/whoever, mccain/lieberman 3rd party, and hillary/obama
cliff at 47 says-”Even Fox can’t help making fun of this guy.
He’s got loser written all over him.
How can you be in awe of a guy who politics at a State Fair out of a golf cart…”
no, no, you don’t understand how it works……..people know they are of a different class, so they see that as a reassuring thing………y’all got it all wrong…………his gucci shoes at the iowa fair just proved to them that he is the ruling class, and they are subservient………he played it just right, and he knew it……….
GordonM @ 80
lol
snowbird42 @ 60
Schlozman Out at Justice Department
Now this is interesting. One more bites the dust.
Realized he needed to spend more time with the chipmunks?
So I take it the logging boots I wear are not quite the fashion statement I thought they were?
Lol.
OT-Over at insidecable.blogsome.com/ (been trying to link w/ no success) there’s an article about Verizon FIOS providing cable in the Long Island area. But they will not have MSNBC available. What kind of fuckery is this? Anyone understand what this is about?
cliff-
i go to the local department store here, and the talk is what’s in your garden…..my obviously city sister comes to town and buys shoes, and the clerk is exclaiming how cute they are!!!!!!!
class shows……..and it dominates…….wherever you go……that’s a fact.
The Fire Department is investigating whether a malfunctioning standpipe sent water cascading into the basement of the flaming Deutsche Bank tower at ground zero on Saturday, denying water to air-starved firefighters battling the seven-alarm blaze above, including the two men who were killed.
Article Here
lee5 @ 82
That’s what I am thinking, whoever he endorses will be marginalized. During one of Bush’s delusions of grandure he said his brother Jeb would “make a fine President”… But nobody talks about that anymore.
Warren and Levin report on Iraq. Milquetoast.
AZ Matt @ 14
Did someone say Yankees game? You know, it’s guys like Giuliani that give Yankee fans a bad name.
On news coverage of the Occupation of Iraq, we now have a retrospective on NYT coverage of the drum beat on Iran
.
One of the interesting issues Hoyt raises is “How much can reporters and editors assume readers know?”
The same applies here, too. To take a somewhat trivial example, most of us know enough to realize that the acronym TNH refers to The Next Hurrah, where we can go to see Marcy’s weed whacker at work, whacking away at obfuscation and bright shiny objects. In fact, the very reference to “bright shiny objects” is familiar code to FDL regulars as a reference to distractions intended to mislead, or, well, distract from stuff of real importance.
Anyway, Hoyt discusses some important issues worth thinking about. Furthermore, Hoyt is billed as “The public editor”, who “serves as the readers’ representative.” So now we know who to complain to about bad coverage in the NYT.
Bob in HI
Yes, no one here wants a grammar nazi.
But we look at Rove’s language on MSM yesterday.
Full of expressions that have no definition.
The key to good thinking is good use of language.
Loo Hoo. @ 64
Gee. That date rings a bell. Did something important happen on that day?
Bob in HI
Wow—same story I linked above:
Gov. Eliot Spitzer and the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation, the state agency that owns the building, promised investigations, and an official with the federal Occupational Safety and Health Administration said the agency had cited the John Galt Corporation, the subcontractor doing the demolition, for 20 serious violations at the building.
busted at 86 says-”So I take it the logging boots I wear are not quite the fashion statement I thought they were?
Lol.”
they would rule in my house honey……..and be accepted anywhere in these parts….any restaurant, even the ones who serve fish with sauce….but if you were wearing gucci, you would be treated differently, as not from here………
solai @ 87
Every year during our annual vacation to Myrtle Beach, SC, I was stunned that I could not get MSNBC. All I thought was ‘no wonder BOR beats KO’. I was pleasantly surprised this year to see that it was finally available. But, to not be available in NY?? Am I reading this right?
jayt @ 85
Realized he needed to spend more time with the chipmunks?
Beat me to it. No longer will be heard in the halls of justice that stirring cry: ALVINNNNNNN!
dmac @ 83
I don’t see it. Don’t see any FDLers liking the guy. Don’t see the story of the old red pickup working with gucci loafers. Don’t see a guy who can only read cue cards being credible in a debate or interview. Don’t see a guy who looks like an balding elderly bassett hound getting the Raygun what-a-head-of-hair-and-no-gray crown.
Then again, I hated L&O, so I’ve actually never watched him.
jonathan at 94 says-”
Yes, no one here wants a grammar nazi.
But we look at Rove’s language on MSM yesterday.
Full of expressions that have no definition.
The key to good thinking is good use of language.”
that’s why you love firedoglake………….
It doen’t matter what folks here think of Rudy or Fred.
There are a bunch of Fred Thompson Campaign video’s here.
Loo Hoo. @ 64
Have they no shame? OK, I realize that’s a rhetorical question. So I expect this will be before the “Petraeus” report written by the White House comes out.
He did spend more time in the NY emergency command center than his first responders…
As, apparently, did Judith.
gordon at 100 says-”I don’t see it. Don’t see any FDLers liking the guy. Don’t see the story of the old red pickup working with gucci loafers. Don’t see a guy who can only read cue cards being credible in a debate or interview. Don’t see a guy who looks like an balding elderly bassett hound getting the Raygun what-a-head-of-hair-and-no-gray crown.
Then again, I hated L&O, so I’ve actually never watched him.”
good on ya
Loo Hoo. @ 64
Osama is really a good hider.
the report gen petraus will give will be written for him – hmmmm imagine that – cant even be trusted to deliver a speech on the surge….. ohhh no KO tonight
Oklahoma kiddo @ 66
Well, maybe, but I got a different image.
“What’s that voice that’s so profound?”
“Turd Blossom! Turd Blossom!”
“Who’s that caped crusader leaping buildings at a single bound?”
“Turd Blossom! Turd Blossom”
“What’s that flying through the air,
landing with a smacking sound?”
“Eeeeewwwww. . . . . .Turd. . .Got some…” (gagging sound)
BRAIN BLEACH! STAT!
Bob in HI
On the one hand I support Gore. On the other hand it would be sweet to shove HRC down the throat of the Republicans.
In my opinion, Osama is smarter than GWB, any of the repub candidates, and any of the dem candidates.
What does that say, if true, about the American system of selecting presidential candidates?
solai @ 87
Read this and the comments. I’ve run across a couple others in the last week on AT&T and Verizon. Making hay while they can.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 110
I nominate OKK for the Hemingway of FDL commenters.
OKK –
I’ll bet you a barbeque sandwich (if that’s something you eat).
If HRC is the Dem candidate, the next president will be a repub.
juslin @ 108
the report gen petraus will give will be written for him – hmmmm imagine that – cant even be trusted to deliver a speech on the surge….. ohhh no KO tonight
who does he give that report to? Maybe the chairman, which would be a Dem, might just say something to the effect that “General, we have decided to enter the White House’s Statement into the record. Now, do *you* have an opening statement? – ’cause we have a few questions….”
bobschacht @ 95
Still trying to equate 9/11 with Iraq. Stupid. Really stupid if the dems point this out.
dmac –
I wasn’t talking about his shoes. I was talking about his tired old ass riding around in a golf cart instead of walking around pressing the flesh.
The only fire in that man’s belly is from the corndogs.
Cliff Varnell @ 117
Didn’t someone say he has a medical problem?
short gen petraeus
ahem…. the surge is working – nevermind that an iraqi governor was killed… but we need more cannon fodder uhhhh troops – chimpy your plan has succeeded…
Oklahoma kiddo @ 110
Maybe by November of 2008 they’ll want to be spoon fed.
but they weren’t his “good” Gucci shoes…
Jonathan @ 114
I love anything bbq’d. Especially Republicans. As to Hillary, it may not be a secret that I am not Senator Clinton’s biggest booster. And I won’t take that bet. I will say I would prefer HRC over any Republican. And I do think it will be a tough race should Clinton be the nominee.
Jonathan @ 114
No possibility.
gordonm at 113 says-”I nominate OKK for the Hemingway of FDL commenters.”
no, he disqualified himself…..hemingway never talked about his lovelife………..
Good evening dear friends.
Twain @ 118
leukemia, supposedly indolent leukemia
GordonM @ 113
Well…. I have been to Key West. ;0)
YellowJim’s post earlier needs to get out there:
i just got this and it’s almost on topic:
Reagan Diaries: May 17, 1986
‘A moment I’ve been dreading. George brought his ne’re-do-well son around this morning and asked me to find the kid a job. Not the political one who lives in Florida. The one who hangs around here all the time looking shiftless. This so-called kid is already almost 40 and has never had a real job. Maybe I’ll call Kinsley over at The New Republic and see if they’ll hire him as a contributing editor or something. That looks like easy work.’
dmac @ 124
Alright, he’s more romantic. But he has that pithiness. The minimal word thing. Punch.
jonathan at 114 says-”
OKK –
I’ll bet you a barbeque sandwich (if that’s something you eat).
If HRC is the Dem candidate, the next president will be a repub.”
gettin down to brass nuts………
new thread
Rudy spent more time on the cross than…
Twain @ 118
Non Hodgkins Lymphoma
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Dalton_Thompson
Loo Hoo at 123
Your “no possibility”, I assume, refers to a republican’s becoming president.
As I see things, Americans hate Bush but are completely open as to the next president.
Americans might hate Bush and republicans generally but don’t take to democrats as a result.
dmac @ 130
Hey, the band I was in in High School (modelled after Chicago and The Blues Project) was called the Brass Nuts.
Watching the Rove coverage comparing Hillary saturation to “successful” Gore and Kerry saturation by insinuating that Gore and Kerry got beat because Rove built them up before the elections…needs to be refuted strongly, since Gore WON the popular vote and Kerry also WON the popular vote. The only way they “won”, was because both elections were dishonest and fraudulent.
We need a big comprehensive spotlight shining on previous and potentially future voter fraud, as well as, de-mythifying Rove.
YellowJim and LS, got a link? I can’t follow the dates on the Vanity Fair article. That’s hot stuff.
Cliff Varnell @ 132
LOL
bobschacht @ 93
Thanks for the link. I read it. Hoyt does a poor job here. He references a March Michael Gordon article as the basis for recent claims concerning Iran’s invovlement in Iraq. But the March article was a rehash and attempted defense of NYT articles written back in February which promoted a pro-war case against Iran. The February articles were rightly slammed for their lack of evidence against Iran.
This is rather typical of the poor reporting and oversight at the Times. (Hoyt coming from McClatchy, I expected better.) Basically, the discredited February stories served as the basis of the March story (also debunked) which now that it is repeated in August by Odierno and Gordon we are all supposed to fall down on our knees and accept as gospel truth.
Hoyt in his defense of Gordon also omits Gordon’s role in co-writing with Judy Miller some of the most egregious of the Times WMD stories in the trumpeting the case for the Iraq war.
Badly done, Hoyt.
Whew. This makes me feel much better about Levin’s report from Iraq.
cliff at 117 says-”
dmac –
I wasn’t talking about his shoes. I was talking about his tired old ass riding around in a golf cart instead of walking around pressing the flesh.
The only fire in that man’s belly is from the corndogs.”
yeah, but his persona fools many……i’ve seen it……..people see someone they’ve seen on the tv, or in the newspapers, and they go ga-ga………..especially if they are of the ‘other class’……my family lives in boehner country, people meet him and they are ga-ga…..because he is more famous than them………
my dad has a democrat friend who has a sculpture park, he’s been on the discovery channel and in architecheral(sp? i’m embarrassed) digest…….people flock around him as if he were a rock star…no kidding…………
anyone famous, denotes a certain amount of foolishness, and a pass.
even happens in communities…….i was raised there, it is a reality…my parents were ‘known’ in their community, therefore i had a pass…..anyone known in the community for anything gets a pass, that’s a fact……luckily, my parents were good people, and i never took advantage of it, except when the opportunity came to run a pottery studio at an arts center, and my only reference was ‘where i came from’ that my parents and their friends were contributors..i did the best job that anyone had ever done….built it up to a higher level that they added on a multi-million dollar wing, due to neighbors of my parents who give their money to the community, and they are republicans….fred gets a pass because he’s famous for being famous. that’s a fact.
rant over/s
i keep gettin’ epu’d all day long
Does the “complaint” affect Gore, should he decide to run?? Maybe I’m missing something, since I came in late to the thread.
dmac @ 142
I keep checking back :-).
“fred gets a pass because he’s famous for being famous.” That’s true now. When he formally announces, it’s a different ball game. Especially when there’s trouble with the economy. Nothing wakes up the american voter like a crappy economy.
gordon at 135 says-”Hey, the band I was in in High School (modelled after Chicago and The Blues Project) was called the Brass Nuts.”
greeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaat name for a band!!!!!!!!
Loo Hoo. @ 137
It is a direct quote from the “Reagan Diaries”!
gordon at 144 says-”I keep checking back :-).
“fred gets a pass because he’s famous for being famous.” That’s true now. When he formally announces, it’s a different ball game. Especially when there’s trouble with the economy. Nothing wakes up the american voter like a crappy economy.”
yeah, but he’s skipping all of the debates………and by the time he enters in, will only be a few and he can stand on soundbites……
No prob for Freddie, sez Freddie:
Even more reason to stride the Fairgrounds.
A strider, he ain’t.
The Republicans with the collaboration of the traditional media is going to package Thompson as the second coming of Lincoln. A public more concerned with reality television than the reality of policy will no doubt applaud like seals and bleat like they sheep we know they are. How in the hell did the country ever elect Ronald Rayguns twice and even more unbelievable, George Bush twice. What explains that? A willfully ignorant nation of sheep.
I don’t know and can’t imagine, bluetoe.
Loo Hoo. @ 140
Yet the traditional media spins any and all critiques to support the criminal administration. At what point is it appropriate to declare the traditional media a greater threat to America than Al Quaida?
Bluetoe @ 149
It is all BS. The popular vote will be a Democratic without a DOUBT, no matter who it is, perhaps a landslide, in fact. The only problem is their criminal election fraud activites. We have to be on top of that. I read that it only takes a percentage or two of difference to override the voter rigging, however, software now could exceed that.
We will win. The ridiculous idea that Fred Thompson is another Reagan, could play easily into the Dems hands if the quote about George by Reagan, is exposed and repeated often. Repeat, repeat, repeat. Attack, attack, Attack!!!
Fred Thompson is no Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan is nobody.
I shouldn’t say RR is nobody, but he’s not next door to what he’s been billed as.
End with a preposition whenever possible?
Loo Hoo. @ 154
Never end with a preposition..:}
My favorite Repub talker phrase, “the fact of the matter is”….
The fact of the matter is…RR..is…redefined history.
Obama Goil.
Didn’t W say that whenever we would hear about “Roving” wiretaps, there would be a warrant involved…
Seems he was just teasing us. D’oh.
Loo Hoo. @ 154
“Whenever possible, a preposition end with.”
- either Churchill or Yoda, I forget which.
Jeez, Ron Jeremy has more credibility than the Repub shill on Abrams…hillarious!!!!
The jerks:
The Bush administration, continuing its fight to stop states from expanding the popular Children’s Health Insurance Program, has adopted new standards that would make it much more difficult for New York, California and others to extend coverage to children in middle-income families.
Administration officials outlined the new standards in a letter sent to state health officials on Friday evening, in the middle of a month-long Congressional recess. In interviews, they said the changes were aimed at returning the Children’s Health Insurance Program to its original focus on low-income children and to make sure the program did not become a substitute for private health coverage.
After learning of the new policy, some state officials said today that it could cripple their efforts to cover more children by imposing standards that could not be met.