Comments on: Empty Rhetoric And Painful Substance http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/empty-rhetoric/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:57:47 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/empty-rhetoric/#comment-909423 MarkH Tue, 21 Aug 2007 05:33:42 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/empty-rhetoric/#comment-909423 <p><a href="#comment-908044"><em>yellowdog jim @ 164</em></a></p> <blockquote><p> …</p> <p>how can our Democrats run a campaign, while cheneybu$hco know everything they Might do, first?</p></blockquote> <p>You can run it right out in the open and discuss your strategy right to their face and it doesn’t change a thing. Surprising, but true.</p> yellowdog jim @ 164

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how can our Democrats run a campaign, while cheneybu$hco know everything they Might do, first?

You can run it right out in the open and discuss your strategy right to their face and it doesn’t change a thing. Surprising, but true.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/empty-rhetoric/#comment-909414 MarkH Tue, 21 Aug 2007 05:30:37 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/empty-rhetoric/#comment-909414 <p><a href="#comment-908023"><em>Oklahoma kiddo @ 143</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Who really is to blame for Joe Lieberman being a senator today?</p></blockquote> <p>Any of the 5 justices of SCOTUS who picked Bush to be president.</p> <p>If they had let Gore be elected then Lieberman would’ve been Veep and out of the Senate (except to vote on ties).</p> Oklahoma kiddo @ 143

Who really is to blame for Joe Lieberman being a senator today?

Any of the 5 justices of SCOTUS who picked Bush to be president.

If they had let Gore be elected then Lieberman would’ve been Veep and out of the Senate (except to vote on ties).

]]> By: creeper http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/empty-rhetoric/#comment-908970 creeper Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:44:52 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/empty-rhetoric/#comment-908970 <p>Laura Rozen refers to “Bush’s vision of overturning tyranny and bringing democracy to Iraq.”</p> <p>That’s a hoot. Vision? Geez, even the old man had trouble with “the vision thing” and he was a heluva lot better than Georgie. </p> <p>Rozen still hasn’t figured out that this is all about balls and oil.</p> Laura Rozen refers to “Bush’s vision of overturning tyranny and bringing democracy to Iraq.”

That’s a hoot. Vision? Geez, even the old man had trouble with “the vision thing” and he was a heluva lot better than Georgie.

Rozen still hasn’t figured out that this is all about balls and oil.

]]> By: carolyn urban http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/empty-rhetoric/#comment-908934 carolyn urban Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:18:27 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/empty-rhetoric/#comment-908934 <blockquote><p>Leahy MUST be getting beat up by his constituency at home, so he is doing some damage control.</p></blockquote> <p>Actually, I think he’s been getting a lot of support here - I know I’ve let him know I applaud his efforts.</p>

Leahy MUST be getting beat up by his constituency at home, so he is doing some damage control.

Actually, I think he’s been getting a lot of support here – I know I’ve let him know I applaud his efforts.

]]> By: Kathryn in MA http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/empty-rhetoric/#comment-908731 Kathryn in MA Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:54:50 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/empty-rhetoric/#comment-908731 <p><b>“to highlight our pursuit of incompatible policies to absurd ends without recognizing the incongruities.”</b><br /> just brilliant</p> “to highlight our pursuit of incompatible policies to absurd ends without recognizing the incongruities.”
just brilliant

]]> By: gleev http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/empty-rhetoric/#comment-908425 gleev Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:33:35 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/empty-rhetoric/#comment-908425 <p>In light of the lack of mental health care given to our troops during and after deployment and the resulting increase in the suicide rate, try to read <a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/327644_diplomats15.html">this</a> about our poor beleagured diplomatic corps without getting angry.</p> In light of the lack of mental health care given to our troops during and after deployment and the resulting increase in the suicide rate, try to read this about our poor beleagured diplomatic corps without getting angry.

]]> By: Mabel’s Wig Shack http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/empty-rhetoric/#comment-908238 Mabel’s Wig Shack Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:30:03 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/empty-rhetoric/#comment-908238 <p>– Joe Lieberman advises (H/T to Think Progress) that the “road to victory” goes through Iraq Iran Syria. Yeah, that’s it. That’s the ticket. (Is it me, or is he becoming a Jon Lovitz parody (YouTube) more and more every day?)</p> <p>thank god the good senator is not influenced by nor ‘dovetailing’ with any other nation’s foreign policy. *cough*</p> – Joe Lieberman advises (H/T to Think Progress) that the “road to victory” goes through Iraq Iran Syria. Yeah, that’s it. That’s the ticket. (Is it me, or is he becoming a Jon Lovitz parody (YouTube) more and more every day?)

thank god the good senator is not influenced by nor ‘dovetailing’ with any other nation’s foreign policy. *cough*

]]> By: Knut Wicksell http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/empty-rhetoric/#comment-908223 Knut Wicksell Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:13:46 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/empty-rhetoric/#comment-908223 <p><a href="#comment-908024"><em>Franco @ 144</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Leahy MUST be getting beat up by his constituency at home, so he is doing some damage control.<br /> He just said he will not hesitate to vote a contempt charge, but brought up length of court time.</p></blockquote> <p>No way. Not in Vermont. He’s just stuck between a rock and a hard place. The Senate will not vote a contempt of Congress motion, and the White House will refuse anything less, and indeed that. So he’s afraid of setting a precedent. The problem, and he knows it, is that the precedents are being set right now. No future President will feel required to submit to a Congressional subpoena. </p> <p>Set, Game, Match.</p> Franco @ 144

Leahy MUST be getting beat up by his constituency at home, so he is doing some damage control.
He just said he will not hesitate to vote a contempt charge, but brought up length of court time.

No way. Not in Vermont. He’s just stuck between a rock and a hard place. The Senate will not vote a contempt of Congress motion, and the White House will refuse anything less, and indeed that. So he’s afraid of setting a precedent. The problem, and he knows it, is that the precedents are being set right now. No future President will feel required to submit to a Congressional subpoena.

Set, Game, Match.

]]> By: bobschacht http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/empty-rhetoric/#comment-908197 bobschacht Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:55:48 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/empty-rhetoric/#comment-908197 <p><a href="#comment-908050"><em>emptywheel @ 170</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Why can’t the Senators who subpoenaed the White House–and anyone else who wants to jump on–file a friend of the court brief in the ACLU matter?</p> <p>Congress did it in the Pentagon Papers. It seems like an appropriate thing to do???</p></blockquote> <p>I wouldn’t know how to do that. Can we get Christy or looseheadprop to write it, and then all of us who feel so inclined sign on?</p> <p>Bob in HI</p> emptywheel @ 170

Why can’t the Senators who subpoenaed the White House–and anyone else who wants to jump on–file a friend of the court brief in the ACLU matter?

Congress did it in the Pentagon Papers. It seems like an appropriate thing to do???

I wouldn’t know how to do that. Can we get Christy or looseheadprop to write it, and then all of us who feel so inclined sign on?

Bob in HI

]]> By: BHatten http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/empty-rhetoric/#comment-908195 BHatten Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:55:27 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/20/empty-rhetoric/#comment-908195 <p>How odd that the bad “news” of the failing surge has a ring of good news; the power of the truth is always refreshing and can focus one’s mind, assuming one has a mind. </p> <p>And, Yes, the news has been bad with the miners and more. But for a bit of a snort, the pictures/rerun of Rove trying to rap were pretty good. Wallace could hardly stop running the clip and poking at Rove. Just to add to the fun, Rove brought out a “they made me do it” that made the piece just perfect. Do you laugh or gag?</p> How odd that the bad “news” of the failing surge has a ring of good news; the power of the truth is always refreshing and can focus one’s mind, assuming one has a mind.

And, Yes, the news has been bad with the miners and more. But for a bit of a snort, the pictures/rerun of Rove trying to rap were pretty good. Wallace could hardly stop running the clip and poking at Rove. Just to add to the fun, Rove brought out a “they made me do it” that made the piece just perfect. Do you laugh or gag?

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