Photo: Utah American Energy Inc./Handout/Reuters, from August 14, 2007.
We were coming in to work this morning when we heard the news.
Three rescue workers have died, and six have been injured, at the Crandall Canyon mine in Utah. They were caught in the further collapse of a mine whose owner, Robert Murray, has been trying to say and do anything he can — including inventing mythical “earthquakes” (see also here) — to excuse himself from any sort of responsibility for their fates.
The scary thing is, as this NPR article notes, this is by no means the first time Murray’s been in trouble over safety issues. But somehow, he manages to escape any serious consequences for his actions.
Why is this? How can this be?
One possible reason is hinted at by the presence of Mexican immigrant workers at the mine. No information seems to be available on their status, whether documented or not. But it wouldn’t surprise me if Murray, whose union-hating ways are well known, thought — as do many employers — that the best way to keep his workers from fighting for better wages and safety was to make sure that a certain portion of his workforce is made up of workers that have no legal means to force him to treat his people properly.
Another, more apparent reason, would be in the decided pattern of laissez-faire malignant neglect promoted by the twelve-year Republican Congress and the six years of Republican White House occupants Bush and Cheney. Just check out this bit of news from the Huffington Post on Richard Stickler, the guy Bush and Cheney picked to oversee mine and miners’ safety in America:
The man who will oversee the federal government’s investigation into the disaster that has trapped six workers in a Utah coal mine for over a week was twice rejected for his current job by senators concerned about his own safety record when he managed mines in the private sector.
President George W. Bush resorted to a recess appointment in October 2006 to anoint Richard Stickler as the nation’s mine safety czar after it became clear he could not receive enough support even in a GOP-controlled Senate.
In the wake of the January 2006 Sago mine disaster in West Virginia, senators from both sides of the aisle expressed concern that Stickler was not the right person to combat climbing death rates in the nation’s mines.
Democrats, led by West Virginia Sens. Robert Byrd and Jay Rockefeller, and Massachusetts Sen. Ted Kennedy, questioned the safety record of the mines Stickler ran when he was a coal company executive.
Over the course of his career in the private sector, Stickler managed various mining operations for Bethlehem Steel subsidiary BethEnergy Mines, Inc.
The Charleston (W.Va.) Gazette reported in January 2006 that three workers died at BethEnergy mines managed by Stickler during the 1980s and 1990s.
Gazette reporter Ken Ward, Jr. wrote that in the worst of the incidents, one mechanic was killed, and eight other workers were injured when the portal bus that was carrying them to the mine-shaft bottom derailed. A report later said the portal bus had not been properly maintained.
There’s much more at the link, but what strikes me is this: The guy’s so frickin’ vile that Bush couldn’t even get him past Senate Republicans, who usually never see a worker-shafting clown they don’t like.
In the words of Hunter Stockton Thompson: How long, O Lord, how long?
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A national disgrace…not that any of our leaders will admit to this.
RIP
Bad and worse.
Now that you mention it, Bush has been rather quiet on this disaster.
Has any of the candidates spoken out on this? Spoken about the need for better mine safety? Spoken about what can be done to help trapped miners in the future?
Oh my…..
ken melvin @ 4
And will continue to be so.
And people were wondering why Spingsteen was going around last year singing songs like “John Henry” and “Mrs. McGrath”. The working man gets punked every step of the way.
And, someone should seek Bennett’s and Hatch’s opinions.
Another national disgrace. We’re ALL at risk under this administration’s incompetence, cronyism, and corruption.
This crap lands in George Bush’s lap as he appointed Stickler.
By the way Barney has resigned:Luckovich on Barney
Rescue suspended indefinitely:
Before Bushistas took over mining safety, the most dangerous jobs in the USA were:
1 Logging workers
2 Aircraft pilots
3 Fishers and fishing workers
4 Structural iron and steel workers
5 Refuse and recyclable material collectors
6 Farmers and ranchers
7 Roofers
8 Electrical power line installers/repairers
9 Driver/sales workers and truck drivers
10 Taxi drivers and chauffeurs
I’m pretty sure that with the recent mining disasters, these rankings might be changing. I’d sure like to see GOP Congressman become a more dangerous job.
Finally someone on CNN said the ’seismic activity’ (bumps) are a direct result of the mining.
I blame the Nanny Channel. You know, the one whose logo is burned into the lower left hand corner of the TV’s belonging to angry white racists.
They even sound like baby sitters when they talk about the missing white women.
Too bad the miners weren’t young white college girls. Maybe Bush would care. Or not.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 5
Not, including Bush.
ET@13:
“U.S. citizen” is becoming a mighty risky profession these days, as well.
Ed*ard Teller @ 13
From CNN last week most dangerous jobs
twolf1 @ 14
Orwellian language, reminds me of a computer ‘glitch’ that changes the outcome of an election. Just an innocent little glitch! How evil could that be.
Don’t get me started on ’surge.’
Just keep in mind that this was NO ACCIDENT. This was the result of our legislators caving again and again and again to The Corporate Slave State, which has found in it’s leader George W. Bush, America’s Greatest Conservative President someone whom Democrats and Republicans alike seem unable to even slow down his systematic destruction of our nation.
From infrastructure to the safety of working people the ‘conservative’ movement in this country has effectively destroyed our government’s ability to do it’s job.
The only question at this point is how long it will take to remove all of those who were happy, many still are, to enable Bush’s assault on the people in the name of ‘The Free Market’.
Call your Congressperson and demand action.
Or accept that your children and grandchildren will be no more than slaves in Bush’s Brave New World.
Well, well. Look what I found. It’s all here in the first line. From October, 2006:
http://www.kentucky.com/233/story/11062.html
Biodun @ 16
I believe Edwards has spoken more than once about worker’s safety. Does that count?
Biodun @ 16
As Tula pointed out yesterday; Joe Biden recently abdicated his opportunity to address this issue at a public debate.
No one wants to touch this one for fear of actually having to do something about it. The Democratic fear of being, “soft on Terror,” is perhaps only surpassed by the fear of being labeled a, “big government liberal.” But the simple fact is that regulation has a purpose in protecting the public and the work environment; and any Democratic candidate that will not live up to that requirement, at a federal level, does not deserve to be considered for the job.
Sorry for this OT, but it’s not That Off Topic.
I just received this email from Dianne Feinstein:
Dear Mr. and Mrs. Moore:
Thank you for your letter concerning impeachment proceedings against Vice President Richard Cheney. I appreciate the time you took to write and welcome the opportunity to respond.
In our most recent elections, the American people expressed clear disapproval with the path this country was on. They are tired of partisan politics and of an Administration that pays little heed to the wishes of the American people. They want-and deserve-a Congress that holds the Administration accountable and fulfills its Constitutional responsibility to check and balance the Executive branch. I share this sentiment and am determined to work hard and across party lines in the United States Senate to promote issues that are of real concern to most Americans, including the situation in Iraq and Afghanistan, homeland security, global warming, and lobbying and election reform.
At this time, however, I believe that impeachment proceedings against President Bush or Vice President Cheney will only divide the country even further, frustrating our hopes for a meaningful change in direction, while having little chance of success.
I have been deeply disappointed by many of this Administration’s actions and have been outspoken in those instances. Nevertheless, given the challenges our country faces I believe that we need to focus on constructive and cooperative steps that would lead us in the right direction.
Again, thank you for your letter. If you have any further questions or comments, please contact my office in Washington, D.C. at (202) 224-3841. Best regards.
Sincerely yours,
Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator
egregious @ 19
Market crash = correction
Most dangerous jobs in America:
and cnn to its everlasting shame gave the spokespig for the national mining assn endless facetime for this shit:
MARCIANO: So it sounds like the main effort will be, more so, what do you do in the event of an accident, that kind of technology more than how do you get the coal out of the mine.
I want to talk about safe violations. We touched on this in the last our and I want your perspective on it. Sixty-seven times in the last year this particular mine has had violations, 40 percent of which were considered serious. Relative to the rest of the industry, is that a bad record?
WATTSMAN: I don’t think that’s uncommon, I don’t think it’s unusual. I think you have to look at it as a whole. I looked at the violations. I didn’t find many that related to roof control violations, although there were a few. You know, the general public equates 67 to 67 traffic violations and if you have that, you’d have your license taken away. It’s quite different in the environment we work in. And 67 is not an unusual number.
MARCIANO: Bruce Wattsman, vice president of Safety and Health of the National Mining Association giving us his insight this morning. Thanks once again this morning, Bruce.
AZ Matt @ 11
We should encourage the MSM to focus on this.
Katrina/Brown
Mine disasters/Stickler
Familiar pattern?
Bob in HI
OT – hurricane Dean now Cat 3
egregious @ 19
In honor of the Jose Padilla verdict, I popped in the DVD of Terry Gilliam’s “Brazil” last night and watched it with my two teenage sons. I didn’t tell them what my motives were, but you talk about a little glitch causing a chain of events. My motives, however, were to impart the idea a single character in the movie asks another, “Have you ever even seen a terrorist?”
As if any of us would recognize one if we saw one.
I do, however, recognize a mine owner who is lying through his teeth.
it’s been clear from the start that Murray is ducking responsibility by either declaring the accident as a “act of God” or at least have the ability to plead insanity when he gets hauled up on charges
demi @ 24
Wait… you’re Demi Moore?
More recent than my 26:
Most dangerous jobs in America
and it jibes with Ed*ard Teller’s list @ 13
JF @ 32
How does Ashton like being called, “Mr. Moore?”
Mark Fiore does MC Rove as the Family Man!
You would think with that many violations, these deaths could be prosecuted under , at the very least, criminally negligent homicide.
Dealing with the safety committee here at work, we were inspected, had a few minor infractions and one they told us, if you don’t fix this and we see it again, will be labeled ‘willful intent’Ten thousand dollar fine minimum.
So I cannot see how it is going to be possible for this assclown to skate..
Let’s see now, who do we charge with criminal negligence first:
“Rep. Major Owens, D-NY, was on target when he noted last year, “the federal government is itself guilty of gross negligence in efforts to deter corporate manslaughter.” ….
“Rather than solving that problem, Bush and Congress continue to exacerbate it. Since Bush took office, 17 proposed MSHA standards to protect miners’ safety and health were discarded, and the number of mines referred by MSHA to the Justice Department for criminal prosecution has dropped from 38 in 2000 to 12 last year.”…”Compromising the agency’s mission already driven away dedicated staff. Celeste Monforton, former special assistant at the MSHA for 6 years under the Clinton administration, told me she left a year after Bush took office because she “didn’t want to be a disgruntled employee.” Monforton believed Bush appointees were focused on “trying to be a friend and partner to industry instead of protecting workers.”
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0114-20.htm
During the hearings on the Sago mine disaster, the knowledgeable safety experts were overruled by the owner$. Anything that interfered with profits was nixed. Our anti-Labor Secretary Chao should be sent into the mine as part of a search party. Along with her groom McConnell.
I think Rep. Owens might want to re-introduce this. He might find that his reception this time will be more welcoming.
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/gpoxmlc109/h2005_ih.xml
AKA: Wrongful Death Accountability Act.
Waiting for responsibility to fall on the mine owner? Would a $50K-$100K fine satisfy you?
Looking for answers from the annointed Bush cronie in charge of mine safety? He’ll be transferred shortly and is not taking questions.
Wondering when the Bush-Cheney promise of “smaller government” will be complete? Not until all that remains of it is a pile of ash.
There is an eerie parallel between Murray and Bush, namely in their inherent lack of real (as opposed to lip-service) concern for miners and soldiers. Some die. Get over it.
If Murray were truly concerned, he’d have an exemplary safety record. If Bush were truly concerned, …, (Where to start? Words fail me).
BleuBlazes @ 21
Damning. Wow. This needs to be publicized now.
OT New Froomkin
More on background: But the Dems now have to step up to the plate.
http://spewingforth.blogspot.c…..se-of.html
JF @ 32
Yeah, but not That One. It’s Deb Moore, but that’s how I got my handle. I think it was TRex who dubbed me.
we really have to start wondering just what it is that the administration is holding over pelosi’s head
we know his illegal domestic spying is to steal our secrets
what is the president holding over her head, how can she continue to keep impeachment off the table?
Bustednuckles @ 36
Sure he will! With KY Sen. Mitch McConnell in his pocket, who just happens to be married to our supposed Labor Secretary, Elaine Chao, whose department overseas the MSHA, how can he lose? [See link @ 21]
Workers are no more than commodities, our deaths viewed as collateral damage. I have never felt that I have been viewed with such contempt for just trying to make a living, as I have by this current administration.
demi @ 45
I smell cover up, I say you ARE demi moore…the jig is up ms moore
perris @ 48
Smell away, but you’re sniffing up the wrong hydrant. Wish I had her money, though.
Sorry for the confusion.
Bustednuckles @ 36
He is a huge reThug donor. And Justice is run by and for whom?
demi @ 24
Talk about perverted logic. Through the looking glass and Catch-22, all rolled into one.
We’re completely fed up, disgusted, and outraged. So, let’s not rock the boat. We’re on the fast path to hell, so let’s stay together.
“Little chance of success”? What claptrap. Maybe with real leaders, which Sen. Feinstein assuredly is not, bold stands could possibly lead to success.
But, no. Let’s hold hands and not be “devisive.”
Bllleccchhh ooorrrppp, the sound of nausea.
New mantra for this administration, when caught in lies/obstruction/half-truths/misleading statements: “We have nothing more to say about it.”
Most recently used in today’s press gaggle in response to question on varying testimony of Mueller and Gonzales regarding Ashcroft hospital visit.
Just like Bartelby — “At present, I prefer not to.”
So what is so sad is that while coal production has been increasing for the last twenty years, mining fatalties have been steadily decreasing until last year. See this NMHS report. It just seems too much of a coincidence that the bump in fatalities coincides with Stickler’s appointment.
perris @ 46
It’s called “1998″.
The Republicans went after Clinton hammer and tongs over Monica, and the public rallied around him.
Of course, the difference between then and now is that the Republicans were trying to impeach him for, well, winning the 1992 election (the official reason was for allegedly lying under oath in a statement that had nothing to do with the case for which the statement was elicited), whereas we want Bush impeached for things like the murder of over a million Iraqis. And the public, unlike then, actually backs impeachment now.
well now, lets see if the pig goes back on his promise not to make any appointments during the recess. Who is a betting person?
billjpa
realworld @ 53
Interesting catch. It’s as if mine owners like Murray saw Stickler’s appointment as a green light to be as obnoxious as they wanted to be.
World to Nancy: IMPEACHMENT is not a four letter word. You can say it.
billjpa @ 55
If he does, Reid calls Congress back into session and keeps it in session for the next sixteen months.
realworld @ 57
See my #54 above.
demi @ 49
And besides, the letter was addressed to “Mr. and Mrs. Moore.” Ashton wouldn’t dig that. It’d be too close to the snarky folks that used to refer to James Taylor as “Mr. Carly Simon” back when they were hitched.
Toby Wollin @ 37
More parallels with FEMA/Katrina neglect!
Bob in HI
Our Leadership is teaching us that there is no Leadership.
Bob Schacht @ 61
remember the reporters Murray let into the mine, against all the rules? How do you think they are feeling about that now?
BleuBlazes @ 47
I’m glad to see that McConnell is in serious trouble for next year.
By the way: As noted in the post, Byrd and Rockefeller, both from West-by-God-Virginia where mining is king, led the fight against Stickler.
Phoenix Woman @ 64
Ditch Mitch
twolf1 @ 14
Does this mean they are still operating (and therefore blasting) during the rescue efforts? In a mine that has proven to be unstable? And with rescue workers on the job in areas where there have already been collapses? Because that is what it sounds like.
Shouting at a table full of MSHA officials at their district office in Morgantown, W.Va., Murray said: “Mitch McConnell calls me one of the five finest men in America, and the last I checked, he was sleeping with your boss,” according to notes of the meeting. “They,” Murray added, pointing at two MSHA men, “are gone.”
Murray is beyond crazy. He’s quite criminal, making Veco’s Bill Allen, founder of the “Corrupt Bastards’ Club,” seem like a piker.
“Nevertheless, given the challenges our country faces I believe that we need to focus on constructive and cooperative steps that would lead us in the right direction.”
That is one incredibly empty phrase even for the likes of Diane Feinstein. I remember (it’s been probably nearly 2 years now) how we used to call her the Lieberman of the West. She is just so much of what the problem is and not the solution to it.
So what happens when the near complete structural collapse that this mine seems headed for occurs, just who will be held responsible, or will this story get buried under the on going economic collapse, and the next hurricane?
Fern @ 66
All mining activity AND rescue efforts have been halted. I dont think mining was going on while the rescue effort was underway. The ‘bumps’ are the mountain trying to reclaim the mine shaft.
Fern @ 66
Over the last week there have been several “bumps”, with small cave ins, but the cameras have been pointed else where.
Someone pointed it out to me and I added it to my scandals list some time ago but under Bush even when fines are levied against mining companies there has been little attempt to actually collect them.
The mine owner is delinquint on $116,000 of fines he owes to the federal government because of safety violations.
The mine owner has donated $115,500 to Republicans, according to OpenSecrets.
I wonder what he did with that other $500?
Also weren’t there about a dozen miners who asked to be reassigned because they thought the conditions in the Utah mine were too unsafe to continue rescue operations. It seems that happened only a day or so before the most recent collapse.
randiego @ 63
Seriously – let’s track them down and ask!
Fern @ 66
Interesting question though I suspect not.
I think that the mine owner has done his best to implant the earthquake meme and so when scientists started to talk about this as a geological activity it caused lots of confusion. The scientist meant. “When a mountain collapses it is a geological event.” They have gone on to say: The event is caused by the fact that there is a big hole with many millions of tons pressing in on it and when it gives it gives hard. So it is caused by mining activity, for example, digging through rubble to get to the trapped miners, along with the normal forces of a mountain on an empty hole.
And I do have to wonder just what kind of thinking went in to using geophones rather more sophisticated portable seismograph stations, and why are so many geologists/seismologists not be heard from?
9/11, Katrina, poison food, dangerous imports, falling bridges, collapsing mines…oh, I feel safe!
argosfalcon @ 77
If they are Gov’t staff, they’ve probably had a gag order placed on them and told they’ll be fired if they give any statements through other than authorized (read screened and monitored) channels.
argosfalcon @ 77
And how could they not know where the men were working? Surely they would have been assigned specific worksites?
Chinese Coal Mines Order more Mine Communications Systems
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Activemine Wireless Technology May Become Coal Mine Safety Standard
BleuBlazes @ 78
Hey be thankful the government is looking at your every move to make sure that you are safe. And listening to every word just to make sure that no one threatens you.
I was reading somewhere that 1800 feet of rock (what the trapped miners were working at) is at the limit of the load bearing tolerance of coal. This means that the pillars of coal left for support were at the limits of what they could bear. Worse these pillars are sequentially removed as miners “retreat” back along a mined out seam making the mine structure even more unstable.
In other words, the original trapped miners should never have been placed in this kind of a situation, and hard as it sounds the rescue miners should never have been sent in after them.
Yes guess your right all that “on going investigation” stuff making independent analysis impossible until, well I guess hell freezes over.
twolf1 @ 81
Heaven forbid. That might cut into the bottom line!
In the words of Hunter Stockton Thompson: How long, O Lord, how long?-PW
Thanks PW, this is horrible, and another reason that workers need bargaining power i.e. Unions, the day of greedy business owners with no thought to those they hire in any sector has to end. We are a powerful force when united and if there was ever a time to come together it is now. If there was ever a time when those on the right who vote against the own interests should be courted it is now. We can and must end the divisive propaganda that divides us.
Hugh @ 83
I may have read the same article, in it there are mines near or exceeding that depth, but it’s unreported if they are using retreat mining.
nomolos @ 82
You could add in holders of subprime mortgages. OTOH if you are a mortgage lending company or a hedge fund, the Fed will lend you nearly $70 billion to date and lower its discount rate for you. This is a good news, bad news story. Good news for investors, bad news for the rest of us.
BleuBlazes @ 78
This is Republican government at its finest. This is a direct result of their mantra of “lower taxes” and “less regulation.”
dakine01 @ 79
Absolutely NO doubt. We’ve had enough testimony of that happening in other areas.
These precarious mine tunnels collapsing ARE seismic events, NOT caused by seismic events. That they’re big enough to register as seismic events should be THE STORY.
nomolos @ 82
They probably can’t do that right either. Just like they saw WMD being moved right before the Iraq invasion. That’s an even SCARIER thought, them making up lies about US!
Hugh @ 83
I read (can’t remember where) that 1500 ft is the absolute maximum depth that this kind of mining should go. Anything more is beyond dangerous. It’s stupid. The geophysics ensure the tunnel will fail ~ the “overburden” is too heavy.
argosfalcon @ 87
If the coal itself is being used as a structural element then that pretty much qualifies as retreat mining.
When you figure the thousands of foot pounds of force on the columns when they give the force release is enormous, go back to the nuclear underground test data and look at the seismic signatures and magnitudes, to get some sense of scale.
40 U.S. soldiers dead in Iraq since Congress went on vacation (not including today).
There be a maximum limit to the depth you can mine , but there is no limit to the depth people will go for greed.
It’s ironic how everything BusChen touches turns to poo. They’ve leveraged their risk six ways till Sunday in the hope that the public will buy into the Big Lie. Well the risk is hitting the fan and Humpty is taking a Dump.
Let’s see how Hannity spins the utter collapse of the Bush Economy.
Housing Starts: It’s Going to Get Worse
The Fascists are mounting their steeds. And the King’s men ain’t singing Louie Louie!
argosfalcon @ 96
Well said.
snip
http://www.jmbell.org/blog/?p=578……….anonymous phone calls were made to the USDC voter fraud hotline in 2006 alleging that a letter, from Bob Murray, read aloud to employees on Election Day, stated that if it were found that they hadn’t voted Republican, they’d be fired.
Right now on CSPAN– replay of Wednesday’s Ninth Circuit court of Appeals hearing on NSA Warrantless Wiretapping program.
Bob in HI
Bob Schacht @ 100
Saw that last night. Great stuff.
jayt @ 95
689 since Bush announced the surge on Jan. 10, 2007.
Fresh thread, everyone!
ccmask @ 99
Why does this not surprise me?
argosfalcon @ 94
Thousands of pounds of force, not foot-pounds of force.
Thank you from the Nitpick Patrol
New Thread Upstairs
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FunnyDiva
“You’re doin’ a heck of a job, Stickie!”
OT – cnn just showed an interview with Fredrick of Hollywood… gawd, he looks awful!
rather shar pei looking and not in a healthy way…
Bob Schacht @ 100
Thank You! I couldn’t find it on the schedule earlier. It’s coming up again at 1:38 AM EDT in the morning … and 7 PM EDT on Saturday.
argosfalcon @ 77
The scientists from UCBerkeley have said, publicly, that the collapse was the ‘earthquake’ that Murray keeps blaming for the collapse. The problem is that their paper isn’t good as a soundbite, so the news media are missing it except as a reference (if they get it at all).
Me, I wish that they’d have taken Murray and Chao into the mine to see the rescue work up close and personal – I doubt that either one has ever gotten close to anything like it, or to the working face. If it’s safe enough for reporters, it should be safe enough for managers, yes?
argosfalcon @ 96
that much is certainly true.
as a former miner, let me point out one
theme that needs repeating — IF the drifts
are narrow enough, 1,800 feet of overburden
is not inherently unsafe. the drift is where
the miners stand.
but think of it this way: if the drifts are
narrow, far less air moves down-shaft, smaller
equipment must be employed, and the “in and
out” times for miners greatly increase. all
of that means less coal produced.
i haven’t done the math, but at 1,800 feet,
it seems the pillar-widths murray’s company
had approved were not enough to support the
crushing overburden. said another way, the
drifts were too wide. but there is a minimum
drift width required to accomadate a standard
size continuous-coal-mining machine.
my very sad supposition here is that murray’s
mining engineers certified the plans, more in
reliance on the size of drift needed to fit
the continuous miner, than the load bearing
capacities of the coal. . .
sad.
Bush is a Stickler for Brownies.
-GSD
Hugh @ 93
From what I have read and heard, this mine was pretty well “mined out” and was scheduled to be closed in ‘08 or ‘09. Despite Murry’s lies at the beginning, they were trying to get the last extractable coal out before closing. They were doing this by “pulling pillars” ie cutting away the coal columns that resist the compression forces between the floor and ceiling. The so called bumps are the sudden, explosive failure of the remaining pillars and walls in the tunnels.
IIRC, this type of mining procedure requires approval of the Federal mine safety officials before it can be done. Follow the money and political influence…take names and file indictments after 01/29/09.
Isn’t it about time for Bush to fly out to Utah and tell “Sticky” he’s doing a hell of a job?
Michael Ryle @ 114
Orrin Hatch basically said just that on CNN. Then he gave the “Let’s face it, coal mining is dangerous.” Now he’s talking about the unexpected seismic events and how nobody ever expected it because it hasn’t happened before…
anybody still here? Shout-out to this post on the main page at Huff Post! Above the fold!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
Susan Collins tracker story on CNN now…
…also just on CNN. Tom Delay on Hastert being a power player behind the scenes: “You just feel like you could crawl up in his big bulky lap and ask him something.”
twolf1 @ 118
ew.
twolf1 @ 117
Let me guess, they are playing bash the bloggers again.
randiego @ 116
Thanks, I just did. This is the first time I’ve ever commented on the blogs. But this a subject near and dear, both of my grandfathers were Kentucky coal miners. Though many years and miles removed, hearts are heavy when we hear of trapped miners.
twolf1 @ 115
Unbelievable.
We really are learning that these people don’t even think these things through, let alone try to educate themselves, before opening their mouths. Completely irresponsible and not acceptable in leadership.
No wonder congress is such a mess.
BleuBlazes @ 121
Welcome, BleuBlazes!
Do come join us upstairs. Always happy to add another former lurker to the merry band.
FunnyDiva
We have witnessed the rise of the conservative Robber Barons again (or at least the same greedy, corrupt, uncaring mentality).
Over one hundred years ago, conservative Robber Barons owned a whole of our country’s industry and resources, including coal mines.
These conservative Robber Barons of the late 1800s vigorously and often viciously tried to crush any of their workers organizing for safer working conditions and better pay.
The conservative Republicans of today, and especially in the Bush administration, are the new Robber Barons, greedy, corrupt and uncaring…and extremely anti-union, anti-worker rights and anti-worker safety…with workers dying as a result, leaving behind grieving spouses and children.
And someone actually tried to attach the word “compassionate” to “conservative,” although recent events have proven that conservatives are completely devoid of any compassion…except for how much money they can stockpile in their bank accounts. Pathetic.
Ed*ard Teller @ 13
Mr. Teller, would you consider a personal exchange Email to Email? I am seeking your help with an important subject. You’re a clear headed thinker. I dont know how else to do this. Thanks.
BleuBlazes @ 47
Maybe this makes McConnell vulnerable in some way. Is he running for re-election in ‘08? Remember, Kentucky IS a coal-mining state and worker safety would rank very high as a campaign issue.
ccmask @ 101
Schroedinger’s Cat stuff –
“What happens in a locked room stays in a locked room” are not words often heard by a judge in a courtroom.