The indefatigable Howie Klein tells you why you should care about Net Neutrality:
Institutional investors aren’t usually left-wing radicals, especially not the types who invest in traditional, vanilla companies like AT&T. But AT&T’s shareholders are “alarmed” by the Pearl Jam controversy and some of the company’s biggest investors are asking for more information on management practices. Trillium Asset Management is a socially responsible investment firm with about one billion dollars under management. That includes over 200,000 shares of AT&T (over $7.5 million worth). Trillium sent a letter to Randall Stepehnson, AT&T’s Chairman and CEO which states that “the controversy comes at a ‘particularly inopportune moment’ for AT&T as the company lobbies against proposed laws and regulations that would limit its prerogatives as a gatekeeper of information flows across the internet–so-called ‘net neutrality’ policies. Trillium Asset Management’s letter noted that AT&T’s position ‘has always turned on assurances that the Company would never interfere with content passing through its pipes.’”
Take a look at the Pearl Jam YouTube above. It’s a bit hard to swallow that this was a “mistake,” especially since similar edits were made to the Flaming Lips and the John Butler Trio at the Bonnaroo festival earlier this summer.
Corporations under pressure from shareholders to divest from companies doing business in South Africa (especially institutional shareholders) was one of the things that hastened the end of apartheid and it’s a tactic that deserves more attention. But the whole incident underscores why compromising on net neutrality is not an option for a society that values free speech.
AT&T needs to keep their hands off the damn toobz.
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Penny bag hacks…
If we don’t have freedom of speech and freedom of ideas, what on earth do we have?
yes – hands OFF the damn tubes!
Laura Doty @ 2
The right to be good quiet republican idiots.
Yeah, you noobz lay offa my toobz.
“AT&T needs to keep their hands off the damn toobz.” And, stop providing our emissions to King George and Darth Cheney!!! 8-(
Corporations under pressure from shareholders to divest from companies doing business in South Africa (especially institutional shareholders) was one of the things that hastened the end of apartheid and it’s a tactic that deserves more attention.
Hmmmmm…
?Would eet work on BlogAds as well?
boo-yah! And ask Apple why they went exclusively with AT&T!@!!!! I would wait on any iphones until we get an answer to that one!
CTuttle @ 6
Are you getting tubes and tracts confused again CT?
It doesn’t seem like the stockholders are too alarmed that their company is spying on Americans from the janitorial splitter room and siphoning off calls and internet emails and information and sending it over to the janitorial NSA analysis room. I wonder why they are speaking out about that.
!El Gato Negro! @ 7
Si, Si, Senor, it had a profound effect!!! ;-)
Laura Doty @ 2
Fascism for a huge fee.
I’ve been so discouraged by the latest series of setbacks on the Net Neutrality including the recent wireless decision. ARGH!
LS @ 10
I wonder why they are not speaking out about that allegation.
?Would eet work on BlogAds as well?
I recall Jane saying something recently that piqued my interest een thees matter, and eet occurred to me that subjecting BlogAds to social pressure might be a more attainable goal, and one that would probable be better done sooner, rather than later.
so.
LS are you under water? Which county are you?
GordonM @ 9
Wha..? Me confused? Mistaken on occasion, but, certainly not confused…!!! *g*
CT I never get confused either. Just confuzled, but it is always someone else’s fault!
SnarKassandra @ 16
I’m in Hays County. Pretty funny, all of the heavy rains went all around me, but missed the ranch except for a few sprinkles. I’m real worried about Dean though and flooding…are you dry where you are? (don’t post where you are)
SnarKassandra @ 18
I agree entirely… it’s always somebody’s fault!!! Hmmm… ;-)
LS @ 19
We are on the top of a hill and very dry. But my brother is in Harlingen with the guard. They sent them down there for Erin and they are staying on for Dean. With Rita he was gone for a week, so this will probably be the same.
Speaking of censorship, do you suppose the WSJ would suppress dissenting views?
Dodd Criticizes White House Handling of Credit Problems
Why should Bush disturb his hard earned vacation to deal with such a trifling matter as a global credit shock? Or a hurricane and deluge? Or a mine collapse? Shucks, that’s the responsibility of the “Heckuva job” minion class.
“If the country goes into a recession now, it means the economy will still be flat on its back next year before voters go to the polls,” said Lyle Gramley, senior adviser at Schwab Washington Research Group. “I don’t think the administration wants that.”
Unless it gives them one more reason to cancel the elections…
So does that mean the WSJ isn’t going to post my comment?
“White House press secretary Tony Snow will step down from his position as early as next month, sources inside and outside the Bush administration told CNN on Friday. Snow told conservative talk-show host Hugh Hewitt on Thursday “financial reasons-and death” may prevent him for serving the remainder of his boss’s presidency. developing story
SnarKassandra @ 21
I’m on top of a hill too. My brother-in-law and his girlfriend live in Kemah. When Rita hit, they drove up here..it took them 20 hours to drive a 3 hour drive..then the storm missed them..thank God. I hope your brother is real careful..I am sure he will be. Good luck to everyone in the Gulf Coast states – get supplies soon.
Please–Keep the idiot on vacation- do not allow him to do a thing about he economy- PLEASE- HE’LL fuck it up!!!
Buenos noches amigos.
Beer O’clock is rapidly approaching after a long week.
The gulf coast was not meant to harbor human life–just alligators.
rwcole @ 23
I don’t like his policies, but it breaks my heart.
Can’t ever remember a slicker presidential liar than the snowman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_bvT-DGcWw
Hey Republicans… Leave those kids alone!!!
rwcole @ 29
If someone came up to me and said, “Jonathan, I hate your guts.”, I could easily forgive that person.
If someone came up to me and said, “Jonathan, the United States means nothing to me. I’m a political loyalist. Oh, and I’m dying.”, I’d say, have a good trip.
“It’s a bit hard to swallow that this was a “mistake”…”
Corporatists never make mistakes…unless they’re caught out.
Wonder if Clusterfuck can get Brother Jebidiah to take over some of the open positions in the White House. He could do some lyin in the next few months and get prepared for his future presidential bid.
Turns out that bein full of gooper shit is bad for your health.
I think they are gettin’ ready to play the “ace”. Ace Laden that is…
rwcole @ 23
Earning money is real hard when you’re pushing up daisies. Ask Ronny “Now I’m Poor” Reagan.
Clusterfuck called about the economic crisis said that he can’t do anything right now- the brush crop is ready for harvest.
Turns out that pig shit is the best fertilizer for bruch- Clusterfuck’s entering his in the state fair.
Some background info on Randall Stephenson, AT&T’s Chief Executive Fascist
http://www.commoncause.org/sit…..;b=2727089
rwcole @ 37
I just hope the secret service crews have learned to let him catch the biggest perch. He once said catching a 7 lb. perch in his stocked pond was the best thing that happened to him while being president.
Spiritologists have visited the Clusterfuck Ranch er- that’s Rancho Clusterfuck. They say that Clusterfuck has been been infested with the spirits of the millions of pigs that were once slaughtered there and may never be sane again…
rwcole @ 23
Tony needs to be surrounded by positive people. Healing is difficult under stress. He’s got to look out for Tony.
As a musician myself, I find this absolutely chilling. This part of “Daughter” is basically referencing Pink Floyd’s “The Wall” (teacher leave those kids alone), so it’s a double artistic bash against fascism.
To have it silenced is the worst thing you can do to a performance musician, as well as the alluded musician.
AT&T could not have picked a worse band to censor than Pearl Jam.
rwcole @ 41
Damn, sure sucks to be him.
:D
CTuttle @ 17
Ah phooey. I out-clevered myself. The reference was to The American Dream, but either Albee or I
got confusedwas wrong. That should’ve been “tubes and ducts”, which actually would’ve been the better joke, because I doubt Senator Young knows the difference, with or without “fallopian” and “deferens”.OK – one more beer. Then even I’ll know I’m not making any sense! *g*
FCC Commissioner: Pearl Jam censorship linked to net neutrality fight
Just had a margarita as a party warm up- may need another–sometimes it’s hard ta get warm.
By the way, some of the guys from Trillium donated to our candidates through Blue America last year. I met them through the REM camp and they are very progressive.
Clusterfuck tells Tony Snowjob that he’s makin great progress against the cancer “Death is just nature’s little way of tellin you to slow down” said the always philosophical president. “And did I tell ya that we’re makin GREAT progress in Iraq?”
GordonM @ 46
Cheers…!!! *g*
8:15 p.m. EST
Anyone here ever study the JFK assassination?
Jonathan @ 52
Yes.
Told about the market collapse and the drying up of credit and liquidity in all markets- the President exclaimed–”Watch this drive”!
LS @ 53
What’s your take?
Jonathan @ 55
Hunt’s story is pretty interesting.
rwcole @ 54
And added, “fortunately, no actual rich people were harmed in creating this recession“.
Unfortunately, Trillium is small potatoes. To international capital, $1 billion is a pittance, especially compared to AT&T’s market capitalization, which is $238 billion. Trillium owns less than 1/30000 of AT&T, so they can be completely ignored by management. They can produce some bad press for one day, but that’s about it. Much of the business press sneers at “socially responsible investment firms” anyway.
We need to rein AT&T in, but we can’t count on big investors to do it, much less small players.
What we really need to do is get the politicians terrified. If they can prevent Pearl Jam from criticizing a Republican president, they can also prevent Democrats from criticizing a Republican president, unless Congress stops them.
howieklein @ 49
(((Howie))) Any comments to this post yesterday:
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…../#comments
Howie – I’ve worked with Trillium and the Socially Responsible Investment world … they are very much our allies and great models for how to make change.
Now if everyone with investments – even a small IRA – would insist on socially responsible placement … imagine what could happen.
Look at sites like Social Funds and get a copy of their nice little guide to SRI mutual funds, etc …they are old friends who educate the public on these options.
Coop America also has info.
LS @ 56
As I understand, E. Howard Hunt said very close to his death that he sat in on conversations (he was a CIA agent at the time) in which the assassination of John F. Kennedy was discussed — apparently by individuals who had the motive and the means to carry out the deed.
FWIW, I believe in a conspiracy involving, in various ways, LBJ, CIA rogues, the Mob, and J.
It’s easy to dismiss such “conspiracy theory.”
But the accumulation of evidence is hard to dismiss.
Edgar Hoover.
Joe Buck – that was true but is rapidly changing.
And with ISS initiating a rating system based on SRI factors, it’s about to zoom.
Companies and investors are learning that taking social and environmental issues into consideration actually helps to build profitability over the long run. A big catalyst was Katrina which helped companies to see up close the risk of ignoring factors outside the financial balance sheet in their evaluations.
Even two years ago, you’d be right – but no longer.
Yes!!!! Court orders Bush to respond to ACLU!!
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/….._0817.html
J Edgar did it- that fat blonde standing near the parade route is NOT a woman.
CTuttle @ 59
I’ve been speaking with McNerney’s office and I’m working to get him here so people can speak to him directly. If you don’t mind, I’d prefer to get a definitive answer from him before I start mouthing off. I will say, however, that the exchanges have been very useful– hopefully to him as well. If you really want to know how I feel about what Babaloo wrote, there is a similar case– although by no means identical– that I covered today at DWT, the story of arch-traitor Brian Baird (D-WA).
When I just went to fetch you that link, I noticed that Valley Girl had already visited and left a comment showing she certainly made the connection.
rwcole @ 64
lol
LS @ 63
Let’s see if he really does it by August 31. Bet he just ignores it. Why have a change of heart towards the Constitution and Legal System at this point?
rwcole @ 64
I don’t know who did it. I have an idea of why it was done.
In my opinion, the evidence is clear that Lee Harvey Oswald (the Oswald everyone thinks he or she knows about) didn’t — couldn’t — have done it.
LS @ 63
Yes, the Judiciary is finally flexing it’s third branch authority! If the Ninth Circuit allows standing within their current docket, it should be an interesting confluence of Judicial Justice delivered upon Shrubco!!!
Christy’s going to kill me if I don’t finish the piece for tomorrow’s Blue America session now. It’s going to be our first endorsement ever of a non-Democrat.
Jeremy has spoken, but we couldn’t hear him because Ma Belle censored him.
As for Tony Snow, I feel for him. But if the worst happens, I bet his boss will milk it for all it’s worth to keep his administration’s shenanigans out of the headlines.
howieklein @ 70
Green Party? S*cial*st Party?
Edited ** and released by MOD
howieklein @ 65
As always, I respect your discretion and views… 8-)
howieklein @ 70
Wow. Best people is what it is about.
Hi- Question for Mods on blog protocol:
What is the process for commenting from another computer? Business as usual, different computer needs different name, just let you know what is going on in the first comment from new/temp location, or just read and don’t submit? If temp change is made how will you know it is really me? I can e-mail someone if you would like. Thank you.
LS @ 28
Breaks my heart we won’t see it during a press gaggle..I’ve got the monster and, while I feel for his kids, his entire family has benefited from GOP hatred since his days as a fill-in host on Rush’s EIB network.
Fuck him.
from what i know of them, i would think pearl jam would be pissed! anything from them yet?
I thought Tony was getting $1.00 for every lie?
ccmask @ 78
At that rate of pay, he shoulda reaped millions…!!! ;-)
james at 75
my sentiments too
why any sympathy here?
this guy would kill any one of us if he could get away with it
we know his boss would
Another Progressive Congressman falls in line…
Rep. Brian Baird, WA took the trip to Iraq for the horse and pony show and now supports the surge continuing. He’s my rep, so it makes me sad. I need help getting through to him.
http://www.theolympian.com/news/story/192500.html
dmac @ 78
They’re all over this, although mostly behind the scenes (so far).
ccmask @ 78
Yeah, but he had this wager running with Bill Bennet…
Jonathan @ 79
But being the ball-less wonder he is he’d hire someone else to do it.
is pearl jam aware of this? i find it hard to believe they would let this go……….knowing what they stand for………..how do we let them know of this? ed vetter is a proponent of free speech……..he stands on that………just sayin’………
Smgumby @ 80
Once we get people elected, we need to tell them: DON’T DRINK THE WATER!!!
Smgumby @ 81
What the heck is going on?
Smgumby @ 81
Whoa! As I wrote in my own story (linked at #65 above) Baird is no progressive and, as far as I can tell, has never been one. He’s a Blue Dog Democrat and a Tauscher New Democratic Coalition member. His voting record is moderate to reactionary. Example: he was one of only 4 Democrats to vote with the Republicans against mandating rest for troops being redeployed into Iraq and Afghanistan. He’s what I call a reactionary Democrat or a “Cheney Dem” and has never been called a progressive by anyone.
While I’m thinking of Snow and his ilk….
When people wonder about who got fragged in Vietnam think of this: There would be more Vietnam veterans mixed in with the chickenhawks in the GOP had fewer of them been complete assholes.
I’m not espousing violence, just identifying the type of people who got whacked by their own. This administration is full of that type from top to bottom.
james at 83
if you get to be president
I’d suggest raven for secretary of defense
I’d recommend myself for presidential adviser
seriously, ed vetter outta be informed what was done, not kidding……he would be pissed…….
Jonathan @ 61
None of the magic bullet stories ever rang true to me. He had a lot of enemies.
Eureka Springs @ 87
I think people are afraid that if we leave all hell’s gonna break loose, and they don’t want to be held responsible for a bloodbath. Expect more of that until after ‘08 elections.
Goopers talk the talk…
And then they shit the bed…
Talk about hypothetical…
And now for a word from the sponsor…
Eureka … they’re zipping over to Iraq for these quickie trips – one day, two at most … lunch with Petraeus and his powerpoint presentation …interviews (after a quick helo ride since the roads are so unsafe) with a few friendly sheiks, and then get the hell out … a real tour of the real Iraq.
LS @ 91
Big story.
The medical evidence (from Parkland Hospital, Bethesda, x-rays, photographs, living witnesses), when considered objectively, does not support the single bullet theory (SBT).
If the SBT (thanks Arlen Spector, ambitious federal prosecutor) fails, the Warren Report is just so much toilet paper.
On JFK
I once heard that JFK wanted to make the Federal Reserve completely under the control of the US govt- and some did not like the idea. Sounds small but could have been big.
Joe Buck @ 58
It’s not necessarily the amount of invested capital, but the media that goes along with it. The South Africa divestiture movement started small, gained momentum, but was at least as instrumental in creating a narrative of ending apartheid when our Reagan government was interested in doing anything but.
Protest actions don’t have to be all about massive power, especially when they hold the moral high ground, help seed stories, create momentum and incrementally grow in impact.
I can remember being in college and sitting in at College Hall with my faux South African domestic passport as part of the apartheid regime. Campus protests weren’t big in scale back then, but they did help create momentum for the divestiture movement. We were trying to get the University of Pennsylvania to divest.
Jonathan @ 89
While I truly would be honored to be around guys like you, this country deserves so much better than I could ever give it.
I am, however, still pretty good at improvising from kitchen stuff and propane tanks in case these people try to take over completely.
I won’t submit.
Milan River @ 75
IANAM (I Am Not A Mod), but I’ve commented many times from different computers (tis ’cause I’m a computer geek and that’s the work I do).
To avoid any problems, I always use my FDL blog name regardless of which computer I sit at.
FWIW
OK, who here DOESN’T know that Congress in 1979 said there was more than one gunman in Dealy Plaza?
james @ 98
James, I shouldn’t say this on the internet, but I will. When I was 12-16, I built rockets and learned (with friends) how to make explosives. It was a lot of fun.
They just can’t take our internet away! We just got wiki Scanner!
Milan River @ 97
I read that too. I also read that it was shortly before he was shot. If true, that would have been a big deal. Hard to say. Maybe there is a speech on it somewhere. I met Ted Sorensen once, he played golf with my older brother.
Jonathan @ 101
It still is.
I go to NERRF (New England Regional Rocketry Foundation) events every year where you build your own rocket using solid fuel engines.
Mad Dogs @ 100
The mods here at the Lake are superlative to begin with…!!! *g*
Jonathan @ 101
You know I shouldn’t say this either but when I was 13-19 I was a teenager.
Thanks Mad Dogs-
Was thinking that ip address and name had to be the same.
howieklein @ 88
Not a doggie at all. He’s a Blue Weasel…totally different species.
OT question.. Jose Padillas fingerprints were on a so called Al Q job aplication… which he did not sign.. is that correct?
Mad Dogs @ 109
No, no a Blue Dino!!!
LS @ 103
He also had the temerity to fire Allen Dulles as head of the CIA and threatened to dismantle the agency and throw its pieces into the wind.
Seeing how Dulles was good friends with the Bush family, and it has just been revealed back in April that Bush Sr. became involved with the CIA as early as 1953 (just in time for the overthrow of Arbenz in Guatemala), and the chief of police in Dallas on that day was the brother of a high ranking CIA official, it’s pretty much a given that the Bush crime family has its prints on this one too. The CIA would never allow itself to be controlled.
Think of the hatred that the Bush family harbors towards the Kennedys. It goes wayyyy back to when Prescott Bush and his buddies in govt were fighting with the Ambassador to London over prosecuting war criminals. The Bushies wanted them to be pardoned (it’s a family tradition), the AMbassador wanted them tried.
The Ambassador to the Court of St. James then was Joe Kennedy.
OT question.. Jose Padillas fingerprints were on a so called Al Q job aplication… which he did not sign.. is that correct?
Not on all the pages either…
btw, Bill Moyers’ Karl Rove Honorarium coming up on PBS
I have thought, too, that had RFK not been the AG, JFK might not have been killed.
howieklein @ 88
He voted against the war in the first place. I called his office about Habeus and liked what I heard (he was a co-sponsor of H.R. 1416 to restore habeas corpus). But I’m not in the mood to defend him today. I read your piece and I what I am in the mood for is finding a way to get him to see the light or get him out!
Eureka Springs @ 110
They said his fingerprints were on it. I don’t know if it was signed or not. Could be they got on the paper during interrogation, here hold this, or we’ll drown you….
Eureka Springs @ 110
I believe he did, in arabic, and the ‘operative’ who discovered it spoke none, nor, could read any arabic…!!! Hmmm…
LS @ 115
Or, if he was as cooperative as has been written lately, he might just have been asked to take the paper and sign it because it would help the commander-in -chief.
There’s an easier way. The content owner (Lollapalooza in this case) attaches a contract rider covering delivery of content & prohibition of editting/censoring.
AT&T, as just another conduit, has very little leverage. Agree or we’ll find another conduit.
Why get into a spitting match when you can just pull the whole rug out from under them?
it’s pretty much a given that the Bush crime family has its prints on this one too.
Saw a film on this a couple of weeks ago and now and I can’t remember where it was. Alex Jones?
It was about an hour long, and made the case that everything essentially came back to George H.W. Bush. Damn, where was that?
neokneme @ 95
And we’re, what, 12th in the industrial world for broadband? S Korea gets 30Mb access everywhere for a fraction of the price.
New thread upstairs.
The basic stance of AT&T and other telcos in the network neutrality debates is this: trust us to carry your network traffic— your video, your emails, you web surfing, and all the other stuff that you watch, read, hear, and say to friends, family, and the world via the Internet; trust us to handle the connections that you make online, be they personal, political, religious, frivolous, or whatever; trust us not to use our power over the network to insert unknown third parties and agendas into those connections that you make with the world.
The tenability of this “trust us” premise was already damaged by revelations that AT&T has set up secret rooms at some of its major backbone facilities that let the NSA snoop the nation’s network traffic as it goes over the wire, but (unfortunately) not everyone cares so much about faceless NSA snoops picking through their e-mail. However, this new incident, in which either the company or a party acting on the company’s behalf has censored political criticism of one of the most unpopular presidents in American history, is bound to resonate with a whole new swath of the public.
Funny how the B*sh name comes up with so many infamous events- JFK, loss of SO much American money with the savings and loan scandal, what james said at #112, and the loss of so many lives and the 700B to 1T dollars for the 16 little words mess and occupation.
jayt @ 120
Check Daniel Hopsicker’s site madcowmorningnews.com
Webster Tarpley has a great book entitled The Unauthorized Biography og George Bush that is very informative, but most of this is stuff I’ve been developing over the years. I never bought into the Warren Commission BS, even as I read the report in 64 as a freshman in HS. And over the years I just followed the detective’s fiat cui bono – who benefits?
Which one family in this country has benefited the most from the murder of JFK, from the coup that occurred that day?
The Bush Crime Family.
Don’t forget Preston’s treasonous escapades!
The MidWest is pissed at BP, and so is Pearl Jam. British Petroleum is often looked at as one of the “better” oil companies…one that actually has the environment on their mind.
The BP Whiting Refinery in Indiana has secured a new water permit that “allows BP to dump an average of 1,584 pounds of ammonia and 4,925 pounds of suspended solids into the lake every day,” says the Chicago Tribune.
BP has written their own statement to say that the ammonia levels are still at 50% of the federal standards, and that the change in their output is due to having to process a totally different, and heavier, crude oil.
The public, the environmental groups, and even some politicians aren’t convinced. Pearl Jam even wrote a song about it and performed it at this year’s Lollapalooza. Watch a bit of their “Don’t Go to BP Amoco” protest song below, or listen to the entire bit here.
Check Daniel Hopsicker’s site madcowmorningnews.com
It wasn’t Hopsicker – though I do really like that site. His reporting seems thorough and credible, even if his videos are a bit on the sensationalist side. There’s a lot of information at that site – perhaps most importantly the Jack Abramoff and Mohammed Atta stuff.
Boy- what the landscape of America would look like if Poppy had been sterile.
“To say that they’re censoring is ridiculous? It’s propaganda and it seems to be working,” Derek Hunter, the executive director of the Media Freedom Project, said.
“Fifteen seconds of a concert sounds like a mistake to me.”
Derek Hunter’s the Media Freedom Project, we now know is typically named in the manner that the G.O.P. names groups and legislation – the name is the opposite of its true intent. A G.O.P. grassroots organization is actually an organization sponsored by an individual or group that is opposed to the grassroots. Mr. Hunter’s project would be more appropriately named the Media Censorship Project.
If fifteen seconds of censorship occurred randomly in the concert it could be a mistake. One must put too much faith in coincidence, (which I do not believe in at all,) to believe that the fifteen seconds just happened to be those critical of George Bush.
Any observer of the Bush administration and the republicans knows that they rely heavily on coincidence to cover their tracks.
Whose side is AT&T on in the current case regarding NSA spying on domestic calls? Hint: It is not on the side of the American people. It is aiding and abetting the invasion of American’s privacy with its silence.
Good Goopers know no neutrality…
Is it wrong to expose gooperism in America?
I remember, way back when, seeing a piece on network news (CBS I think) where they took the Zapruder film frame by frame, and noticed that, as each shot was fired, there was a little involuntary twitch by Mr. Zapruder, which caused the reflections on the hood of the limo to blur instantaneously. They then calculated the time between those blurs, and had several of the best marksmen they could find anywhere try to use a rifle like Oswald’s, and duplicate the quickness and accuracy. Nobody came close to being able to do it.
Bush controls AT&T
Cheney controls Tim Russert
It is so obvious that AT&T believes anything that is said or sung that is anti-Bush, is pure profanity and deserves to be scrapped on the edit room floor.
GordonM @ 121
First rule of contracting — Address the client’s weaknesses…
This cracks me up though (from above)…
What happened to the 11th commandment, eh Mr. Gooper?
25 points, 1000 words:
compare & contrast institutional investors in the US using their financial clout to bring about the end of apartheid in SA with student protests in the UC school system objecting to TIAA-CREF and UC endowment investment in Israeli companies to bring about the end of oppression against Palestinians.
Milan River @ 129
it’s not too late.
rwcole @ 54
while standing on the back of a boat with a fishin’ pole in his hands…no doubt
Smgumby @ 81
Skip it and let’s move on to other Republicans to beat. It’s a better bet we’ll get all-around better average government that way.
Yeah yeah, I know. We gotta end the war. But, we’ve still got a lot of other issues such as the ones discussed on this blog, and your guy would probably vote better on those than a Republican.
ccmask @ 127
Why a different crude? Where’s it coming from?
…and this is why on every bill I send in to them gets a, “Stop spying on us!”, or a “AT&T doesn’t care about American’s privacy!” on it.
The fact that AT&T has become a tool for the Bush Regime is disgusting.
Gunga Djinn @ 119
Why would they need to do that? I can’t imagine a contract with AT&T that says ‘We will carry whatever data we want.’. Yes, AT&T probably has exceptions in there for loss of data by accident, but deliberately censoring parts of something are not accidental losses.
Lollapalooza is not stupid, and did not write a contract that allowed AT&T to carry as little of the the concert as they felt like. AT&T is already in breech of the contract, or Lollapalooza was in on the censorship from the start.
When the people fear the government, there is tryanny; When the government fears the people, there is liberty…….Thomas Jefferson