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		<title>By: sporkovat</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/16/the-bait-and-switch-administration/#comment-900939</link>
		<dc:creator>sporkovat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 00:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Alecia&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am begining to feel that Dems. can no longer be trusted to do the right thing. I am also starting to believe that our ‘08 presidential candidates, in the end, regardless of who wins will us down just like the Dem. leadership in congress is doing now.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;that’s the plain truth.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alecia</p>
<blockquote><p>I am begining to feel that Dems. can no longer be trusted to do the right thing. I am also starting to believe that our ‘08 presidential candidates, in the end, regardless of who wins will us down just like the Dem. leadership in congress is doing now.</p>
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<p>that’s the plain truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Alecia</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/16/the-bait-and-switch-administration/#comment-900839</link>
		<dc:creator>Alecia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 00:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am begining to feel that Dems. can no longer be trusted to do the right thing. I am also starting to believe that our ‘08 presidential candidates, in the end, regardless of who wins will us down just like the Dem. leadership in congress is doing now.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am begining to feel that Dems. can no longer be trusted to do the right thing. I am also starting to believe that our ‘08 presidential candidates, in the end, regardless of who wins will us down just like the Dem. leadership in congress is doing now.</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/16/the-bait-and-switch-administration/#comment-900752</link>
		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-900657&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Elliott @ 94&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-900654&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;ccmask @ 91&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Seriously?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That Ashcroft was out of the loop?  Yes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I assumed he was a loyal Bushie.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, who DOES know what the program is?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gonzo, Cheney, and Addington. And they’re not telling.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;After checking the latest flurry of Marcy’s posts over at TNH, Mueller [and Comey] may be the next most knowledgable persons. Marcy’s weed whacker is busy again.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-900657"><em>Elliott @ 94</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-900654"><em>ccmask @ 91</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Seriously?</p>
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<p>That Ashcroft was out of the loop?  Yes.</p>
<p>I assumed he was a loyal Bushie.  </p>
<p>So, who DOES know what the program is?</p>
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<p>Gonzo, Cheney, and Addington. And they’re not telling.</p>
<p>After checking the latest flurry of Marcy’s posts over at TNH, Mueller [and Comey] may be the next most knowledgable persons. Marcy’s weed whacker is busy again.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: N=1</title>
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		<dc:creator>N=1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-900713&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Boston1775 @ 125&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-900669&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;N=1 @ 106&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Boston1775 @ 96&lt;/em&gt;For a couple more weeks - I feel like a den mother - and one who is interning in a law firm and said his politics run toward conservatism asked about reading the blog! *g* They are getting some political commentary and health policy coaching along with my kitchen cleaning. Gotta start looking for a place for next month, though - nothing came through, which was expected, but disappointing. Maybe a commune?  Are there any of those still in action anywhere?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;N=1, I come from a remarkably religious background and am a philosopher BUT how about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.labri.org/&quot;&gt;this place?  I’ve been getting information from them for years.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the link, Boston1775.  I hadn’t heard of this organization before.  I am a “born again agnostic” having become ever more skeptical, but I enjoy reading the philosophical underpinnings and history of religions.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-900713"><em>Boston1775 @ 125</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-900669"><em>N=1 @ 106</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><em>Boston1775 @ 96</em>For a couple more weeks &#8211; I feel like a den mother &#8211; and one who is interning in a law firm and said his politics run toward conservatism asked about reading the blog! *g* They are getting some political commentary and health policy coaching along with my kitchen cleaning. Gotta start looking for a place for next month, though &#8211; nothing came through, which was expected, but disappointing. Maybe a commune?  Are there any of those still in action anywhere?</p>
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<p>N=1, I come from a remarkably religious background and am a philosopher BUT how about <a href="http://www.labri.org/">this place?  I’ve been getting information from them for years.</a></p>
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<p>Thanks for the link, Boston1775.  I hadn’t heard of this organization before.  I am a “born again agnostic” having become ever more skeptical, but I enjoy reading the philosophical underpinnings and history of religions.</p>
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		<title>By: jc inOR</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/16/the-bait-and-switch-administration/#comment-900715</link>
		<dc:creator>jc inOR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-900656&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;fdl reader @ 94&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;jc inOR @ 81&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My opinion is that a lie is a lie.  And this story is another self-serving lie from people who have decided it’s not “politically expedient” to pursue impeachment.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The intelligence was cooked, they lied, and they didn’t tell congress what they were required to tell congress.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That doesn’t excuse congress from not doing their jobs better but neither does that excuse the lies that started the whole mess.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Impeachment was designed just for this: lying to congress.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There’s no “getting away with it” just because your marks got fooled.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;fdlr, I think you must have misread me.  DeFazio’s point is impeachment is going nowhere because D’s were in on the con.  He is flatly stating this.  It is not a moral question of whether Bush should be impeached, it is a tactical question on the part of Ds about how to keep from being slimed themselves.  DeFazio’s analysis of the lying question leads me to think that the Rovebots have the Dems on tape as being in on the con.  Otherwise why would he say (and he has stated it in his emails, also) that the Dems, by being conscious of the lie and voting war anyway (DeFazio voted against) the Dems are impeachable as well.  I told his aide I did not understand his logic.  I still don’t.  There is still the scandal at Justice and the betrayal of Valerie Plame, so I think there are adequate grounds.  But this stance on the wmd-lies issue indicates we are close to the real reason for ‘off the table.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-900656"><em>fdl reader @ 94</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>jc inOR @ 81</p>
<p>My opinion is that a lie is a lie.  And this story is another self-serving lie from people who have decided it’s not “politically expedient” to pursue impeachment.</p>
<p>The intelligence was cooked, they lied, and they didn’t tell congress what they were required to tell congress.</p>
<p>That doesn’t excuse congress from not doing their jobs better but neither does that excuse the lies that started the whole mess.</p>
<p>Impeachment was designed just for this: lying to congress.</p>
<p>There’s no “getting away with it” just because your marks got fooled.</p>
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<p>fdlr, I think you must have misread me.  DeFazio’s point is impeachment is going nowhere because D’s were in on the con.  He is flatly stating this.  It is not a moral question of whether Bush should be impeached, it is a tactical question on the part of Ds about how to keep from being slimed themselves.  DeFazio’s analysis of the lying question leads me to think that the Rovebots have the Dems on tape as being in on the con.  Otherwise why would he say (and he has stated it in his emails, also) that the Dems, by being conscious of the lie and voting war anyway (DeFazio voted against) the Dems are impeachable as well.  I told his aide I did not understand his logic.  I still don’t.  There is still the scandal at Justice and the betrayal of Valerie Plame, so I think there are adequate grounds.  But this stance on the wmd-lies issue indicates we are close to the real reason for ‘off the table.”</p>
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		<title>By: Alecia</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/16/the-bait-and-switch-administration/#comment-900714</link>
		<dc:creator>Alecia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sen. Reid knows too well that the administration does not have to do any leveling with the American people, when it has the Democrat enabling congress who is in control under the disguise of “Blue Dog Democrats”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sen. Reid knows too well that the administration does not have to do any leveling with the American people, when it has the Democrat enabling congress who is in control under the disguise of “Blue Dog Democrats”.</p>
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		<title>By: Boston1775</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/16/the-bait-and-switch-administration/#comment-900713</link>
		<dc:creator>Boston1775</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-900669&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;N=1 @ 106&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Boston1775 @ 96&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;
N=1, If you say this is something worth sharing, I believe you.  Give me a little time… I’m psychologically exhausted… and I’ll find you.  &lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I like you so much.  Are you still with the college boys?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For a couple more weeks - I feel like a den mother - and one who is interning in a law firm and said his politics run toward conservatism asked about reading the blog! *g* They are getting some political commentary and health policy coaching along with my kitchen cleaning. Gotta start looking for a place for next month, though - nothing came through, which was expected, but disappointing. Maybe a commune?  Are there any of those still in action anywhere?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;N=1, I come from a remarkably religious background and am a philosopher BUT how about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.labri.org/&quot;&gt;this place?  I’ve been getting information from them for years.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-900669"><em>N=1 @ 106</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><em>Boston1775 @ 96</em>
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N=1, If you say this is something worth sharing, I believe you.  Give me a little time… I’m psychologically exhausted… and I’ll find you.  </p></blockquote>
<p>I like you so much.  Are you still with the college boys?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>For a couple more weeks &#8211; I feel like a den mother &#8211; and one who is interning in a law firm and said his politics run toward conservatism asked about reading the blog! *g* They are getting some political commentary and health policy coaching along with my kitchen cleaning. Gotta start looking for a place for next month, though &#8211; nothing came through, which was expected, but disappointing. Maybe a commune?  Are there any of those still in action anywhere?</p>
<p>N=1, I come from a remarkably religious background and am a philosopher BUT how about <a href="http://www.labri.org/">this place?  I’ve been getting information from them for years.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Frank33</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/16/the-bait-and-switch-administration/#comment-900712</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-900686&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Elliott @ 118&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-900670&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Eureka Springs @ 107&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Frank 33, Wonderful site find, thanks. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Did you see &lt;a href=&quot;http://image.bayimg.com/cafcfaabl.jpg&quot;&gt;this photo&lt;/a&gt;? (Elliott don’t miss it!)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would soo like to be there!  Where is it?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reddit.com&quot;&gt;http://www.reddit.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-900686"><em>Elliott @ 118</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-900670"><em>Eureka Springs @ 107</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Frank 33, Wonderful site find, thanks. </p>
<p>Did you see <a href="http://image.bayimg.com/cafcfaabl.jpg">this photo</a>? (Elliott don’t miss it!)</p>
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<p>I would soo like to be there!  Where is it?</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.reddit.com">http://www.reddit.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Furious</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/16/the-bait-and-switch-administration/#comment-900702</link>
		<dc:creator>Furious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As for the content of the looming report, anyone who has ever used the Microsoft Excel spreadsheet program knows what’s coming next. Americans should expect to see the old “Fill Right” trick. That is, when producing a long-term financial model or forecast, the Excel user in the absence of research, data, or just common sense, simply copies the value or formula from one cell (for, say, monthly or quarterly sales) to all the succeeding cells (months or quarters in ensuing years). The result is an impressive looking spreadsheet, but one whose projections are baseless and without foundation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As the interim surge report made clear in July, President Bush like any failed CEO has been relying on the old fill-right gimmick since the Iraq war commenced. Starting in 2003, Bush simply selected the cell containing the phrase &lt;i&gt;“We’re Making Progress”&lt;/i&gt; and filled right…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For a &lt;b&gt;screen shot&lt;/b&gt; and more details, see:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000720.htm&quot;&gt;“White House to Author ‘Fill Right’ Iraq Report for Petraeus.”&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for the content of the looming report, anyone who has ever used the Microsoft Excel spreadsheet program knows what’s coming next. Americans should expect to see the old “Fill Right” trick. That is, when producing a long-term financial model or forecast, the Excel user in the absence of research, data, or just common sense, simply copies the value or formula from one cell (for, say, monthly or quarterly sales) to all the succeeding cells (months or quarters in ensuing years). The result is an impressive looking spreadsheet, but one whose projections are baseless and without foundation.</p>
<p>As the interim surge report made clear in July, President Bush like any failed CEO has been relying on the old fill-right gimmick since the Iraq war commenced. Starting in 2003, Bush simply selected the cell containing the phrase <i>“We’re Making Progress”</i> and filled right…</p>
<p>For a <b>screen shot</b> and more details, see:<br />
<b><a href="http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000720.htm">“White House to Author ‘Fill Right’ Iraq Report for Petraeus.”</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: Eureka Springs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eureka Springs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-900686&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Elliott @ 118&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-900670&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Eureka Springs @ 107&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Frank 33, Wonderful site find, thanks. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Did you see &lt;a href=&quot;http://image.bayimg.com/cafcfaabl.jpg&quot;&gt;this photo&lt;/a&gt;? (Elliott don’t miss it!)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would soo like to be there!  Where is it?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I just figured out it’s a composite photo. *sigh*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-900686"><em>Elliott @ 118</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-900670"><em>Eureka Springs @ 107</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Frank 33, Wonderful site find, thanks. </p>
<p>Did you see <a href="http://image.bayimg.com/cafcfaabl.jpg">this photo</a>? (Elliott don’t miss it!)</p>
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<p>I would soo like to be there!  Where is it?</p>
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<p>I just figured out it’s a composite photo. *sigh*</p>
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