(Remember this trip down memory lane, from almost two years ago?)
So, it turns out that the much-hyped “Petraeus report” in September is turning out to be synonymous with Lewis Carroll’s Cheshire cat, as the Washington Post tells us today:
Senior congressional aides said yesterday that the White House has proposed limiting the much-anticipated appearance on Capitol Hill next month of Gen. David H. Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan C. Crocker to a private congressional briefing, suggesting instead that the Bush administration’s progress report on the Iraq war should be delivered to Congress by the secretaries of state and defense.
. . . With the report due by Sept. 15, officials at the White House, in Congress and in Baghdad said that no decisions have been made on where, when or how Petraeus and Crocker will appear before Congress. Lawmakers from both parties are growing worried that the report — far from clarifying the United States’ future in Iraq — will only harden the political battle lines around the war.
. . . Those positions only hardened yesterday with reports that the document would not be written by the Army general but instead would come from the White House, with input from Petraeus, Crocker and other administration officials.
Atrios and at MissLaura at DailyKos both picked up on the three words that need to be hammered into the public’s consciousness about what the Orwell Bush administration is attempting here: Bait and switch. As Senate majority leader Harry Reid just noted in a statement, it’s not like they don’t have a history of this sort of thing:
From the very beginning of this war, the Bush Administration has refused to level with the American people about its flawed policy. It has instead done everything in its power to escape accountability and mislead us about the reality on the ground.
But that’s far too polite, and not nearly as effective as reminding people of the details. One of Reid’s staffers should have invoked the Trebek clause (“more specific, please”) and had him say something like this:
First, the president told us Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. It didn’t. Then, he told us the “mission was accomplished.” It wasn’t. Then, he told us that as the Iraqis stood up, our troops would stand down. They didn’t. Then he toured the country, saying he had a “plan for victory.” He didn’t. Now we learn that the objective report from our top general on whether our latest tactics are failing won’t be objective.
How long does this have to go on before we finally say, “Enough”?
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moving quick today, are we?
No zed for you!
Trebek??? Eek!
Doggone it. :)
The spinmeiesters are going to polish that turd to a fare thee well.
$1000 for ‘What is a wet fart, Alex?’
As long as we’re going down memory lane, here’s Cheney from 1994 (link has probably been posted before but just in case some missed it)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BEsZMvrq-I
Message to Dems: Never negotiate with liars.
When, when, when will they get it?
I loved this, the best one-paragraph summary I’ve seen about Iraq:
“First, the president told us Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. It didn’t. Then, he told us the “mission was accomplished.” It wasn’t. Then, he told us that as the Iraqis stood up, our troops would stand down. They didn’t. Then he toured the country, saying he had a “plan for victory.” He didn’t. Now we learn that the objective report from our top general on whether our latest tactics are failing won’t be objective.”
This was my favorite part of the article.
Left hand….right hand…..
I hate every fucking minute of this 17-year long war! 3,999 coalition deaths, 27,186 wounded.
white house turn around
now we have to get patreas to put patriotism to his country before loyalty to the commander in chief
a very tough choice for him, the fact that the president is allowing it means patreas will say what bush wants him to say
I hope instead he tells us what he knows by his own study, that we are undermanned, under equipped and cannot deliver the political goods with our military personel
… or from our top general.
Questions need to be asked of Gen Petraeus when he reads his lines.
Good questions about how long and how many troops are planned in Iraq.
And about troop levels and rotaions.
And whether we need to institute the draft to meet these objectives.
He may be reading the White House’s lines, but he can be directly questioned as to his concurrence or not.
Ok, we’re on lies here. Can someone explain me this. I’ve been asking Rep. Pete DeFazio to get on board with impeachment of the president and vice president. He has been sending out a form letter, and said the same thing at a town hall yesterday. The president cannot be impeached for lying to justify invading Iraq because Congress including Democrats knew it was a lie, and would thus be impeachable too. This makes no sense, zero, to me. Impeach Bush for lying (among many other charges, also, by the way). What’s he going to say? You knew it was a lie? DeFazio’s aide told me it was a “legal” point, hinting thereby that I shouldn’t worry my pretty head about it. What’s this ‘logic’ all about, coming from a congresista with a good record on a whole bunch of issues, including impeaching Gonzalez?
Pelosi in ‘07
perris @ 12
sonofabich
they’re on to us
The answer for a super-majority of progressive Democrats in both Houses of Congress?
2008.
And Madame Speaker and ‘Fittin’ Harry Reid had better look out ’cause this shows that it will be their necks on the chopping block along with Mr. Decider and his ‘Road Block ReThugs’.
And when I say progressive that’s what I mean. No mangy ‘Blue Dogs’ need ask for my help.
They won’t get it.
Does this mean that once his input is taken, Petreus will not see the finished report?
We, the American people?
As long as the news cycles are driven by the likes of Murdoch and Drudge.
we may never know without a real opposition party that won’t sell out any principle for corporate cash.
Hillary Clinton’s policy is to maintain ‘residual forces’ in Iraq, and maybe more slaughter from the air.
Maybe she will appoint someone to bring in a similar report of the great progress being made.
The war is not just a wedge issue the (D)’s can simply use to get votes…more and more people are seeing that they have no plans to really end it.
OT – It looks like my son’s golfing partner has become a spokesman for the White House. Honestly, can’t we get adults?
“The White House on Thursday clarified that Petraeus and Crocker would testify publicly before Congress, but their testimony will come before the report is released.”
Unacceptable.
super-majority?
Impeachment can be passed in the House on simple majority.
lets see who is for and who isn’t, then the voters can decide in 08.
Swopa, re: “The Bait-and-Switch-Administration” have you, Atrios and MissLaura been reading my blog on the sly?
From my Thursday, August 9, 2007 post (which I also included as a poster’s comment here at the Lake too):
Or am I just being prescient? Nah, must simply be “great minds thinking alike”. *g*
The report must be really bad news. Bush may have to join the soldiers and ask his Mom to buy him a vest.
Swopa, the people HAVE said ENOUGH! It’s Congress and the WH who are refusing to do the will of We, the People.
Today there was a CNN story about a husband literally throwing his terminally ill wife over a balcony to her death because he had sold all of their personal belongings and was at the end of their financial rope. That is the Republican consumer-directed healthcare policy in a nutshell – lay the entire burden of health care directly in the laps of private citizens while rewarding the insurance companies and big pharma with record profits. My post about that got linked to the CNN story on its front page, and you’d be surprised at just who all is reading and commenting.
Except for a very few individuals living in gilded and well-armored cages, the vast majority of Americans are suffering at the hands of the Republicans and of the WH.
Maybe it’s time for a national strike. On everything. SUspend paying taxes which fund the military. Don’t sell or provide any non-life-sustaining good or service. Take to the streets en masse, but instead of portesting to the deaf ears of elected representatives who are stubbornly refusing to do the will of the people, bring meals to the hungry, build shelters for the homeless, plant gardens for those who don’t have access to fresh fruits and vegetables, take those without transportation to the health clinic, the grocery and the pharmacy, repair the plumbing, the wiring, the loose boards and squeaky windows and doors. Weatherproof the drafts, seal the leaks. IN other words, help all of your neighbors one at a time, and turn your back on an out-of-control government. Return resources to the people and starve resources from the greed of the government.
Tweety has Shuster reporting on this right now. It should be noted by Tweety the WAPO was not first on this story.. I read it in an LA Times link a day earlier than it showed up in the WAPO.
I suppose Bush is waiting on Betreaus to tell him what he told him to say.
All this fuckery going on today with Betray-us and Padilla, at least one can console themselves with some music!
This one should do the trick…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9KC7uhMY9s
perris @ 12
You must have accidently imbibed some Kool-Aid. General Betrayus, that’s the nickname the troops have for him, will never say anything contrary to Mr. Decider’s wishes.
He’s got his tongue too far up Bush’s asshole to ever do that.
Am still looking for link, but I know I did read an interview with Gen Petraeus, where he emphasized that civilian leadership, including Congress, has to make call, said deliberation over the report would be an important national debate and decision. I wonder what his game is now? Doesn’t sound like he is with the WH program entirely. He had a premonition of his head on the chopping block if the WH new con scheme doesn’t come off? Or is he just given up on the maniacs in charge? Or what?
Doesn’t sound like he wants this to be usual wink and nod dog and pony show, but hard to tell.
In any case, seems like it will be very important to hear from him publicly, and get his story directly, for the important national debate and decision he says is upcoming.
I was talking to a client today and we brought up the subject of this Administration (actually, I forced it on him slyly). Even though I have never voted republican, I told him that I would not vote Republican for 10 years to teach them a lesson. I told him I had never voted Dem but this time, I was. He said he was going to join me on that.
ccmask @ 25
Why, so he can attend the first funeral of a fallen US soldier in his presidency?
Swopa @ 4
Sorry. But not very ;-). I was away, came back & refreshed and there it was. I know some of you hang like vultures, vultures I tell ya ;-)
PS. The cllent voted for Bush twice.
“General Betrayus, that’s the nickname the troops have for him, will never say anything contrary to Mr. Decider’s wishes.”
If he did he might lose his post-Army gig with the Defense industry.
I think it depends on how you say “Enough”. 10,000 people saying “Enough” via candlelight vigils can have an enormous impact.
Almost as much as three of us doing what I do.
Rep. Chip Pickering (R-Miss.) has decided not to run for re-election in 2008, a knowledgeable source confirmed Thursday afternoon. – via TPM
Ha. Petraeus probably told them…we’re stuck…we can’t get out…we are surrounded…even the Brits are stuck at the Palace and at the airport…
The WH..then got together and asked W what God is telling him to do, and that is the report 2 people in Congress will get, but they will be forbidden to discuss it. Voila.
Ed*ard Teller @ 37
Another one down. Yeah !!!!
That “loyalty oath” Bushies take must have some really dire consequence if you violate it…
Ed*ard Teller @ 37
Wow! They are going down fast.
From above
Petraeus is a sock puppet
The ones who will have the toughest time selling this plan are those Republicans who said ‘wait until we get the report in september before making any more decisions concerning the war’
Or ‘give the surge 6 months’ when they said it in January.
Those Republicans, the ones who were duped, and tried spreading the dupe message, will have the hardest time selling this.
I think their constituency has been eagerly waiting a full honest assessment from Patraeus, and to have some sort of smoke-and-mirror message passed through various PRs will smell funny.
The important thing is to remind our friends on the right how the democratic congress predicted that no discernable improvements were being made, and that negligable improvements would be made by the surge. It is important for our neighbors to realize that someone is looking out for their best interest, and it is not the White House.
LS @ 38
Unless Petraeus no longer wishes to publish anything under his name at this point, since he realizes it’s such a fiasco he can’t put anything together to please the WH. Yes? No?
Another one bites the dustYoutube
ccmask @ 41
Yes, this makes three or four such announcements all of a sudden. Is something in the air (water, etc) or is this basically the time to get in (the campaign) or get out?
So, the question becomes, Will Petreus take the cash or go for door #1?
Basra’s beginning to sound a lot like Saigon…:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/t…..274585.ece
They are leaving before facing the embarrasment of no votes.
N=1 @ 26
Enough
Enough
Enough
Not allowed to raise my voice here.
Any suggestions?
perris @ 12
Just like Gonzo does it, Junya and crew will get to issue…ahhhem…“clarifications” on anything General Davy
CrockettPetraeus tells the truth about.Such as:
“When Davy Crockett…ahhhmmm….Petraeus talked about his lack of success, he was meaning he jest couldn’t get a good shoe shine in the Green Zone.
Froomkin led with this today, under the title “Whose Report is It, Anyway?” Among other things, he points to a Krugman column behind the NYT firewall on the General’s willingness to cover for Bush in the past:
Froomkin (to borrow from G&S) is the very model of a modern media master.
This war is not one we need to win — it’s one we need to get out of. Robert McNamara as Sec. of Def. during the Vietnam war knew after 24,000 U.S. soldiers’ deaths that the war was not winnable. Yet the advisers to President Johnson pleaded that we couldn’t leave Vietnam because Americans would not accept defeat. What bullshit advice that was and we’re being dealt the same cards in this mess. Let’s learn from history and teach it to our children.
PB (peanut butter) @ 46
Both. I’m guessing that more of the Abramoff stuff is about to hit the fan for some of these folks (or Veco or some other nonsense), but it’s also the time for current reps and senators to either buckle in for a big fundraising push or turn their donors loose to support someone new.
1. I understand that this idea violates some sort of “Washington manners” stuff, but I think it’s time for Harry, Nancy, and all the D teamers to just start calling the WH what it is: a bunch of LIARS. That’s right….use the “L” word. Over and over. Let the MSM and R team squeal and moan. Who cares. Just call them LIARS. No more mincing of language.
2. As somber food for thought: counting this month of August, and going forward and including January, 2009 (inaugeration), if we ONLY average KIA of 56 men per month….that’s over a thousand brave men who will die between today and Jan. ‘09.
Who are these thousand men, good soldiers all, who must die in these upcoming months? Who are these thousand men who must die while my Democratic members snivel in fright before a run-away ego in the WH? Who….who are these men.
Ghostman
In other eventually whitehousewashed news, the soon-to-be-married-to-a-rove-hack Jenna is looking somewhat pregnanty. So much for faith-based, holier-than-thou, morally-superiour abstinence before a 50/50% at failure marriage.
N=1 @ 26
And please compare the above with Bob Cesca’s take on our elite.
Speaking of “Bait and Switch” Latest FaBlog: Fait Divers — Jenna Marries Rove’s Brain
David Ehrenstein @ 58
uh, is that “The Omen” soundtrack I hear?
David Ehrenstein @ 58
I’m sorry, wasn’t jenna the girl running around out of the country with a driver or something like that?
if she’s preggers, I’m thinking the man she’s going to marry is not the father of her child
then again, why is rove resigning so all of a sudden like?
that cannot be a coincidence, they would have delayed the resignation for sure if they knew this was going to happen
this is getting really bizzare
Picture of the bride, June, 2007. She looks like she is gaining weight a little. Must be all those beers.
who’s that, a troll?
no, it’s Dr. Steven Porter, who will be coming to fdl for a liveblog at 2pm, EDT, Saturday!
maybe there’s still time in your area to help give voters a real choice on the ballot, and to give your local paladin some real motivation to heed their constituents, for once.
from Downwithtyranny.blogspot.com
ccmask @ 61
well that is definately a preggers blouse
Ghostman @ 55
Ref. me at 14. At the town hall meeting, I think I understood DeFazio correctly to say Dems would not denounce Bush on the war because they had really wanted the war too, and that the public was behind them at the time. I don’t know about the general public, because I was embedded in leftcoastistan where the public was somewhere between opposed and indifferent. Now, somehow, Congress’ cynical winking and nodding at the lies immunizes Bush from impeachment, according to DeFazio. Even if they knew, they should now cynically impeach anyway, because none of it is in writing.
Boston1775 @ 57
That’s important because even Tony Snow made the comment that he needed to retire due to financial issues. When you have a major health expense – especially a life-altering one, it eats up personal assets -whether one is close to the true elite, or one is just a regular unknown and ordinary citizen. No one except the very few top income “generators” – who are fueled on the blood, sweat and suffering of the rest of us – are immune from health costs impinging on or ruining an individual and his or her family’s quality of life.
I guess then we can call them Generals Loot and Betrayus.
On a somewhat encouraging note, Arlen Specter held a town meeting locally here on Monday. (I didn’t attend as it was conveniently in the middle of the workday.) He was quoted in the paper
So, the Great Disappointer seems to be getting an earful during the August break. Let’s hope the rest of his cohorts are as well.
jc inOR @ 14
That’s ridiculous: how *stoopid* do they really think we are?
Would love to hear Bruce Fein’s p.o.v. on that little tale of woe.
Boston1775 says: August 16th, 2007 at 2:26 pm.
That true? A guy threw his sick wife over the balcony? The big con of “consumer driven health care”, at least the flavor that extends it to major ticket catastropnic illness disasters, is that as an individual consumer, you have not bargaining power for any big discounts. So you got your health account savings, you’re a successful memeber of the opportunity socieity, and you got a stop-loss for catastrophies. But you gotta pay 30% 40% or more over what any person in a group plan does, and on top of that they bury you in bogus junk that you don’t have the resources to fight, and you are broke when the stop-loss kicks in.
Re: Wonder if Patraeus has got himself in a bind. Went and politicized himself, now can’t figure out how to spin it to satisfaction of WH. They have high standards for spinning, and are ruthless towards those who will not sign on to their one-way loyalty pledge. Maybe Patraeus just can’t do what the WH is demanding for his bone, whatever it is -getting medal, kicked upstairs, retired to defense contractor.
N=1 @ 26: it’s a terrible, terrible story but congrats on getting linked!
Nice post too, btw.
N=1 @ 65
Day after day of my “vacation” has been spent trying to help my father handle the many illnesses of my much loved stepmother. I’m living the nightmare.
Boston1775 @ 71
I’m so sorry, Boston1775. Let me know how I can help – even if it’s just to be an ear or a waterproof shoulder.
Ghostman @ 55
Yes, they are LIARS and it’s beyond obscene that any more will die while these people sit and wait. These LYING Friedman Unit politics are just obscene. It has to end.
perris @ 63
Hmm.
As a reminder Steve Porter ran unsuccessfully against Congressman Phil English (PA-3) in 06 and 04. For 08, though three Democrats have announced their intention to run against English. English is a marked man and the Democrat this time around will appear to get some support from the Party — something Porter did not.
Woo-hoo, no F*cker today! Schuster’s subbing again!!!
Porter was one of my favorite Blue America candidates.. Thanks for the heads up re his Saturday visit. He will win this time around.
HAHA! Shuster just showed a clip of some kid giving the WH press briefing today… with Snow quitting, they are only left with 12 year olds to do the job??
Mueller Notes: Ashcroft out of White House Surveillance Loop
TPM
uncle toby at 75
sounds like an interesting race. I wish more people in this country could have those sorts of choices and excitement.
fdl reader @ 68
I really don’t care about Bruce Fein’s take. Yes, I heard him on Moyers, and I heard he had an oped in Pelosi’s hometown newspaper. But hearing he is a Ron Paul activist makes him a featherweight in my opinion. (Yes, he sounded smart and right-on, but I maintain that makes no difference if you are backing a libertarian on the side) DeFazio is a very, very smart guy, and he is sure they are cracking the administration little by little. I think this ‘can’t impeach because Dems. knew about the lie’ line is revealing…but of what, I can’t quite put my finger on. I’m looking for your analysis, not Bruce Fein’s.
OT, but a little levity. Well, well, well. Chris Colvin, the DailyNightly blogger, is a woman. And she’s not bad at all. She does a blog round-up on Tuesdays and Thursdays under the header of “Nuthin’ but ‘Net”. It seems that NBC News has another
foul-mouthedfem blogger who may or may not be wearing pajamas and blogging from her efficiency apartment *g* – (sorry, Chris, if you’re reading, but I couldn’t resist.)wesgpc @ 69
Considering Petraeus’ past glowing reviews of his own operation published at a politically convenient time for the boss, I’m concerned that the whole “Petraeus won’t testify directly” is just a head-fake by the administration, to shore up his reputation for honesty and independence.
The White House is now saying that Patraeus will give testimony in both closed and OPEN sessions before Congress…I think they got so much anger and fallout when they floated the idea that Patraeus would not do his dog and pony show in front of open CSPANed Congress that they’ve backed off a bit…we shall see.
No one is going to believe a bit of what the official WH release will be…public scepticism is high and White House credibility are at opposite ends of the polls….
There was a spectacular blogger at Marcy’s place who described her nightmare of missing a couple of mortgage payments due to the fact that her ex-husband stopped paying child support for her teen-agers.
She documented the bewildering financial rabbit holes that led to more rabbit holes.
She is astute, educated and will get through it.
I am in a similar circumstance. I will fight this successfully, and my parents will not lose everything unless something unbelievable happens. I make many phone calls following up on doctors’ orders. I visit and check if the nurses understand what is going on. I have encouraged my father to get help from counselors who will help him handle the debilitating stress. In short, I am educated, have friends who are smart and advise well, and my father has family members to lean on.
What if my father didn’t have this?
Peterr @ 54
Jack rolled over on Susan, mayhaps.
Susan Ralston is singing, goes my bet.
Boston1775 @ 85
Exactly. Please visit and write about this on my blog, if ever you are so inclined. It’s so critical that your story and your parents’ story is told – and heard. My email is on the About page there. And again – let me know of any way I can be of support and assistance.
Schuster for Tucker today, difference between night and day. When are they going to let shuster take over the old Scarborough Country slot? Shu needs to loosen up a bit, be more personable and less all business like. Shuster probably has some wierd, twisted sense of humor and is afraid to let it out.
Reddit.com seems to have lots of interesting stories. Here are two, and which is more outrageous?
First, a company sent $68,000 worth of military parts, with a shipping cost of twenty million dollars. This is beyond war profiteering, it is war fraud.
Second, $30 billion dollars of weapons will be given to Is**l, free of charge. They get the weapons and we get the wars. It is only fair since we are also supplying weapons to Egypt and Saudi Arabia.
snoboysdrift @ 15
This irritates me every time I see it. Pelosi is the primary obstacle to what you seem to want, unless you think that both Bush and Cheney are going to walk hand in hand to the podium on the White House Lawn and announce their simultaneous resignations.
I am disgusted with Pelosi. Not only has she taken impeachment off the table, but whenever a difficult decision comes along, she has a nice little chat with Georgie Boy, and then caves in and blames it all on the Blue Dogs. She’s a useless tool.
Harumph.
Bob in HI
ccmask @ 79
I’m stunned.
Elliott @ 91
Seriously?
every time Shuster subs for *ucker I send a nice note to msnbc, complimenting them on the wonderful job Shus is doing and then I say some insulting about Tucker… it’s fun!
jc inOR @ 81
My opinion is that a lie is a lie. And this story is another self-serving lie from people who have decided it’s not “politically expedient” to pursue impeachment.
The intelligence was cooked, they lied, and they didn’t tell congress what they were required to tell congress.
That doesn’t excuse congress from not doing their jobs better but neither does that excuse the lies that started the whole mess.
Impeachment was designed just for this: lying to congress.
There’s no “getting away with it” just because your marks got fooled.
ccmask @ 91
That Ashcroft was out of the loop? Yes.
I assumed he was a loyal Bushie.
So, who DOES know what the program is?
N=1 @ 86
N=1, If you say this is something worth sharing, I believe you. Give me a little time… I’m psychologically exhausted… and I’ll find you.
I like you so much. Are you still with the college boys?
A.Citizen @ 17
Where is the Progressive Caucus when we need’em? The co-chairs are
* Barbara Lee (California), Co-Chair, and
* Lynn Woolsey (California), Co-Chair.
Why aren’t they showing some leadership? The Executive Director is supposed to be Bill Goold. Who is he, and why have I never heard anything from him? Maybe we need to light a fire under these folks.
Bob in HI
moeman @ 56
That would be a hoot. Will the republics call it “an immaculate conception”?
Excellent post Swopa.
Too bad the admin only believes in accountability for us little people.
ccmask @ 79
Now recall Senator Whitehouses questions to AbuG at latest hearing – whether AG Ashcroft was “read-in to and authorized” the program at issue…” Very, very clever Senator.
Got him.
ccmask @ 79
Those Mueller notes are “heavily redacted” as they say … but just look at the series of meetings, when and with whom … that alone tells a shocking tale and must hide a number of juicy nuggets!
perris at 63 says-”well that is definately a preggers blouse”
the other day i went shopping with my sister, who was just in town, and the fitting rooms were in the junior section, teens……and the new style is the ‘baby doll’ returned…..they look like maternity blouses…..and that’s what i said when i saw them…….paula said that’s the new style…..high waistband right under the ‘chest’, and flowing down from there, longer length…..and loose.
ccmask @ 25
Well, you see, Napoleon was not really defeated at Waterloo. He simply changed tactics and suggested that the French were adjusting their expectations.
Bob in HI
newtonusr @ 100
Sounds like the WH was “compartmentalizing” things so much Ashcroft couldn’t adequately assess what he was supposed to certify. What a shell game!
Waccamaw @ 98
son of the head of the rethug party in Macacaland/Vergil Goode territory… talk about keeping it all in the family. Their kids are going to inherit that “heritage not hatred”, hang’em up high, separate-but-equal sense of entitlement as matter of genetics. Get the gun rack pickup with the CSA sticker ready.
Boston1775 @ 96
I like you so much. Are you still with the college boys?
For a couple more weeks – I feel like a den mother – and one who is interning in a law firm and said his politics run toward conservatism asked about reading the blog! *g* They are getting some political commentary and health policy coaching along with my kitchen cleaning. Gotta start looking for a place for next month, though – nothing came through, which was expected, but disappointing. Maybe a commune? Are there any of those still in action anywhere?
Frank 33, Wonderful site find, thanks.
Did you see this photo? (Elliott don’t miss it!)
bobschacht @ 90
Well said.
newtonusr @ 99
From Mueller’s notes, most everything is blacked out.
____________________
The AG also told them that he was barred from obtaining the advice he needed on the program by the strict compartmentalization rules of the WH. Comey asked me to briefly meet with the AG to see his condition. He also asked that I inform the detail that no visitors, other than family, were to be allowed to see the AG without my consent. (I so informed the detail.)
fdl reader @ 104
How bad is it that they have to be that compartmentalized? Who actually knows what the program actually is? Only Poindexter & Cheney?!
Elliott @ 110
who’re really the same person :) I’m half convinced that an actor plays Poindexter when they need him to scare small children.
The Petraeus report was bogus from the get go. Bush chose Petraeus because Petraeus was a cheerleader of Bush’s policies and was selected to be his point person in carrying them out. The idea that Petraeus was ever going to be objective or impartial was a con.
Then in late July the White House began its media blitz to sell the surge. The O’Hanlon/Pollack flackery was only one of many episodes where Washington’s foreign policy establishment got on board to warn against the dangers of that wondrous strawman “precipitate withdrawal”.
What is interesting is that after beginning so well the White House massively overplayed its propaganda hand first by admitting that it was going to write Petraeus’ report and second when they tried to avoid Petraeus giving public testimony before Congress.
I think we need to continue to deconstruct the Petraeus mythos and the “surge is making progress” meme. Last time I post this today I promise but here again are reasons why the surge isn’t working.
Elliott @ 91
Elliott, at Marcy’s place, others and myself have wondered if Attorney General Ashcroft had no idea what his signature appeared on. Stunning and terrifying. I’ve been dealing with is for a while as you are now. It is simply and overwhelmingly CRIMINAL.
Excellent list Hugh.
Phoenix Woman upstairs
FYI, new post
Elliot @ 110
No kidding! Super-duper-secret!
Eureka Springs @ 107
I would soo like to be there! Where is it?
Blub @ 111
both scare small children!
Hugh @ 112
It’s a terrific list, Hugh!
Boston1775 @ 113
Blatantly criminal
Elliott @ 118
I just figured out it’s a composite photo. *sigh*
As for the content of the looming report, anyone who has ever used the Microsoft Excel spreadsheet program knows what’s coming next. Americans should expect to see the old “Fill Right” trick. That is, when producing a long-term financial model or forecast, the Excel user in the absence of research, data, or just common sense, simply copies the value or formula from one cell (for, say, monthly or quarterly sales) to all the succeeding cells (months or quarters in ensuing years). The result is an impressive looking spreadsheet, but one whose projections are baseless and without foundation.
As the interim surge report made clear in July, President Bush like any failed CEO has been relying on the old fill-right gimmick since the Iraq war commenced. Starting in 2003, Bush simply selected the cell containing the phrase “We’re Making Progress” and filled right…
For a screen shot and more details, see:
“White House to Author ‘Fill Right’ Iraq Report for Petraeus.”
Elliott @ 118
http://www.reddit.com
N=1 @ 106
For a couple more weeks – I feel like a den mother – and one who is interning in a law firm and said his politics run toward conservatism asked about reading the blog! *g* They are getting some political commentary and health policy coaching along with my kitchen cleaning. Gotta start looking for a place for next month, though – nothing came through, which was expected, but disappointing. Maybe a commune? Are there any of those still in action anywhere?
N=1, I come from a remarkably religious background and am a philosopher BUT how about this place? I’ve been getting information from them for years.
Sen. Reid knows too well that the administration does not have to do any leveling with the American people, when it has the Democrat enabling congress who is in control under the disguise of “Blue Dog Democrats”.
fdl reader @ 94
fdlr, I think you must have misread me. DeFazio’s point is impeachment is going nowhere because D’s were in on the con. He is flatly stating this. It is not a moral question of whether Bush should be impeached, it is a tactical question on the part of Ds about how to keep from being slimed themselves. DeFazio’s analysis of the lying question leads me to think that the Rovebots have the Dems on tape as being in on the con. Otherwise why would he say (and he has stated it in his emails, also) that the Dems, by being conscious of the lie and voting war anyway (DeFazio voted against) the Dems are impeachable as well. I told his aide I did not understand his logic. I still don’t. There is still the scandal at Justice and the betrayal of Valerie Plame, so I think there are adequate grounds. But this stance on the wmd-lies issue indicates we are close to the real reason for ‘off the table.”
Boston1775 @ 125
Thanks for the link, Boston1775. I hadn’t heard of this organization before. I am a “born again agnostic” having become ever more skeptical, but I enjoy reading the philosophical underpinnings and history of religions.
Elliott @ 94
Gonzo, Cheney, and Addington. And they’re not telling.
After checking the latest flurry of Marcy’s posts over at TNH, Mueller [and Comey] may be the next most knowledgable persons. Marcy’s weed whacker is busy again.
Bob in HI
I am begining to feel that Dems. can no longer be trusted to do the right thing. I am also starting to believe that our ‘08 presidential candidates, in the end, regardless of who wins will us down just like the Dem. leadership in congress is doing now.
Alecia
that’s the plain truth.