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		<title>By: whtt</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/16/reflections-on-padilla/#comment-902085</link>
		<dc:creator>whtt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;morphed at 45&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Where do we live? What is this place? I don’t recognize it anymore. This is not the country I remember. How did we let this happen! What’s wrong with us?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Have a look… &lt;a href=&quot;http://american_almanac.tripod.com/steinb.htm&quot;&gt;at  this&lt;/a&gt;. Here is much of the answer to your question, in my view from over 60 years on the planet.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>Where do we live? What is this place? I don’t recognize it anymore. This is not the country I remember. How did we let this happen! What’s wrong with us?</p>
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<p>Have a look… <a href="http://american_almanac.tripod.com/steinb.htm">at  this</a>. Here is much of the answer to your question, in my view from over 60 years on the planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy Reuter</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/16/reflections-on-padilla/#comment-901789</link>
		<dc:creator>Judy Reuter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 09:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-900899&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Lew Koch @ 139&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;jayt &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On Padilla’s lawyers. I can only tell you I personally do not know either of the two Florida Federal PD. Andy Patel who has been with Padilla from almost the very beginning was forbidden to talk with me thanks to Judge Cooke’s gag order.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What kind of lawyering did Padilla get. If memory serves, federal public defenders are very bright. But they were in a situation where I now firmly believe was stacked against them.&lt;br /&gt;
The Judge’s rulings made it impossible for the jury to see what Padilla had experienced. And for her to joke about seeing Padilla joke with his attorneys — You guys read what Hegarty said about how Padilla felt about his attorneys. He was paranoid with the Stockholm syndrome thrown in. Sorry, Judge Cooke gets failing marks from me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s why the ‘Citizens Rule Book’ is so vitally important to every juror that walks into the courtroom to have read before he goes there.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-900899"><em>Lew Koch @ 139</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>jayt </p>
<p>On Padilla’s lawyers. I can only tell you I personally do not know either of the two Florida Federal PD. Andy Patel who has been with Padilla from almost the very beginning was forbidden to talk with me thanks to Judge Cooke’s gag order.</p>
<p>What kind of lawyering did Padilla get. If memory serves, federal public defenders are very bright. But they were in a situation where I now firmly believe was stacked against them.<br />
The Judge’s rulings made it impossible for the jury to see what Padilla had experienced. And for her to joke about seeing Padilla joke with his attorneys — You guys read what Hegarty said about how Padilla felt about his attorneys. He was paranoid with the Stockholm syndrome thrown in. Sorry, Judge Cooke gets failing marks from me.</p>
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<p>That’s why the ‘Citizens Rule Book’ is so vitally important to every juror that walks into the courtroom to have read before he goes there.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy Reuter</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/16/reflections-on-padilla/#comment-901784</link>
		<dc:creator>Judy Reuter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 09:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-900884&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Lew Koch @ 125&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;selise at 99&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I remember being with a group that had been labeled as “radical feminist psychologist.” I was covering the annual American Psychological annual meeting. The women wanted the APA to gon on record of completely censoring the behavior of a psychologist sleeping with his (yes, his) patient. They refused so the radical feminists upped the ante and called for punishment for such psychologists — castration. At least things were clear for those types.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ve had dealings with all kinds of these folks for about 30-35 years now.  The only thing that this has taught me is to ‘watch’ all those folks with ‘alphabet soup’ behind their names.  (Now, let me make this clear, this is not a blanket statement.)  There are people that have saved my life, good people that really care about the people they are working with.  I’m talking about the ‘other ones.’  That is in ANY profession too, not just the mental health profession.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;About the castration, that only takes care of one part of the problem, sometimes that is a ‘thinking’ problem, so maybe a lobatomy would do the trick too.  ‘It’ wouldn’t come up by itself anymore, he couldn’t think ‘it’ up anymore, and he couldn’t cause anymore harm to anybody else either.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;These people are insulting my intelligence.  I know what torture is.  What is really making me angry is I can’t find a way to change this mess, to wake people up so they will see it also.  To busy shopping, voting on American Idol.  I want to rip off all those ‘pretty colored’ ribbons off those suv’s or wherever they are on.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We need to find a ‘gimmick’ that’s what they do, we just have to find a better one.  Enough.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-900884"><em>Lew Koch @ 125</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>selise at 99</p>
<p>I remember being with a group that had been labeled as “radical feminist psychologist.” I was covering the annual American Psychological annual meeting. The women wanted the APA to gon on record of completely censoring the behavior of a psychologist sleeping with his (yes, his) patient. They refused so the radical feminists upped the ante and called for punishment for such psychologists — castration. At least things were clear for those types.</p>
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<p>I’ve had dealings with all kinds of these folks for about 30-35 years now.  The only thing that this has taught me is to ‘watch’ all those folks with ‘alphabet soup’ behind their names.  (Now, let me make this clear, this is not a blanket statement.)  There are people that have saved my life, good people that really care about the people they are working with.  I’m talking about the ‘other ones.’  That is in ANY profession too, not just the mental health profession.</p>
<p>About the castration, that only takes care of one part of the problem, sometimes that is a ‘thinking’ problem, so maybe a lobatomy would do the trick too.  ‘It’ wouldn’t come up by itself anymore, he couldn’t think ‘it’ up anymore, and he couldn’t cause anymore harm to anybody else either.  </p>
<p>These people are insulting my intelligence.  I know what torture is.  What is really making me angry is I can’t find a way to change this mess, to wake people up so they will see it also.  To busy shopping, voting on American Idol.  I want to rip off all those ‘pretty colored’ ribbons off those suv’s or wherever they are on.  </p>
<p>We need to find a ‘gimmick’ that’s what they do, we just have to find a better one.  Enough.</p>
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		<title>By: risa mandell</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/16/reflections-on-padilla/#comment-901493</link>
		<dc:creator>risa mandell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 05:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-900785&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LS @ 28&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Come on everybody.  Let’s get behind this torture thing.  This is so contrary to everything this country stands for.  We need to unite around it.  I can’t stand that Congress is not out there condemning this at every turn.  This must be stopped.  We must do something.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i’m in.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-900785"><em>LS @ 28</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Come on everybody.  Let’s get behind this torture thing.  This is so contrary to everything this country stands for.  We need to unite around it.  I can’t stand that Congress is not out there condemning this at every turn.  This must be stopped.  We must do something.</p>
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<p>i’m in.</p>
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		<title>By: janinsanfran</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/16/reflections-on-padilla/#comment-901480</link>
		<dc:creator>janinsanfran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 05:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Correction to 196&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Rally at American Psychological Association meeting, 4 pm Friday at Moscone Center, downtown San Francisco. &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction to 196</p>
<p><b>Rally at American Psychological Association meeting, 4 pm Friday at Moscone Center, downtown San Francisco. </b></p>
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		<title>By: Shell</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/16/reflections-on-padilla/#comment-901435</link>
		<dc:creator>Shell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 04:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It makes me absolutely sick that this (and other incidents) have happened.  In the US.  But, of course, most Americans are too busy shopping ’til they drop, buying yellow ribbon decals (magnetic, of course!  Can’t harm their SUV paint!), etc. to have time to pay attention.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For years, I kept hearing the BS about “Americans are too busy working 3 jobs to pay attention.”  BS!  This is the most important thing they can do!  FORGET shopping!  Forget goofy teevee shows like American Idol.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;PAY ATTENTION.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes me absolutely sick that this (and other incidents) have happened.  In the US.  But, of course, most Americans are too busy shopping ’til they drop, buying yellow ribbon decals (magnetic, of course!  Can’t harm their SUV paint!), etc. to have time to pay attention.</p>
<p>For years, I kept hearing the BS about “Americans are too busy working 3 jobs to pay attention.”  BS!  This is the most important thing they can do!  FORGET shopping!  Forget goofy teevee shows like American Idol.</p>
<p>PAY ATTENTION.</p>
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		<title>By: janinsanfran</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/16/reflections-on-padilla/#comment-901352</link>
		<dc:creator>janinsanfran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 04:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-900806&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Lew Koch @ 48&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The people at Democracy Now! deserve a huge shout out for a brilliant interview with a woman of honor. By the way, I don’t know where the APAs, and the other psych groups are on this torture business, but I sure as hell am going to find out and report.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I picked this up awhile back &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.neverinournames.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1713&quot;&gt;    here.&lt;/a&gt; “Psychologists organized into “Psychologists for an Ethical APA” plan to meet at the August convention of the American Psychological Association with education, protests, and political pressure. The protest will be at noon, August 18 at the Moscone Convention Center in San Francisco, and will feature a number of prominent speakers from the psychology community. The aim of the protest is to support the proposed moratorium within APA to stop psychologist participation in national security and military interrogations associated with torture and abuse.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I intend to be there.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-900806"><em>Lew Koch @ 48</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>The people at Democracy Now! deserve a huge shout out for a brilliant interview with a woman of honor. By the way, I don’t know where the APAs, and the other psych groups are on this torture business, but I sure as hell am going to find out and report.</p>
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<p>I picked this up awhile back <a href="http://www.neverinournames.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1713">    here.</a> “Psychologists organized into “Psychologists for an Ethical APA” plan to meet at the August convention of the American Psychological Association with education, protests, and political pressure. The protest will be at noon, August 18 at the Moscone Convention Center in San Francisco, and will feature a number of prominent speakers from the psychology community. The aim of the protest is to support the proposed moratorium within APA to stop psychologist participation in national security and military interrogations associated with torture and abuse.”</p>
<p>I intend to be there.</p>
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		<title>By: mls</title>
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		<dc:creator>mls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 04:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Can’t his family or soemone bring a lawsuit on his behalf against the federal government for what they did to him? Maybe via this group &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ccr-ny.org/v2/home.asp&quot;&gt;http://www.ccr-ny.org/v2/home.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can’t his family or soemone bring a lawsuit on his behalf against the federal government for what they did to him? Maybe via this group <a href="http://www.ccr-ny.org/v2/home.asp">http://www.ccr-ny.org/v2/home.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: rich</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/16/reflections-on-padilla/#comment-901306</link>
		<dc:creator>rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 03:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Say, is it uncomfortable in here, or is it just–you?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say, is it uncomfortable in here, or is it just–you?</p>
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		<title>By: space</title>
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		<dc:creator>space</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 03:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-901067&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;albertchampion @ 186&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;dear larue,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;by my analysis, padilla was the “third” man at OKBOMB. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;anyway, look at the drawing of the OKBOMB third man. and then look at a pic of jose upon his arrest. they are virtually identical.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I find the compulsory signing of his name as “John Doe” to be VERY, VERY curious.  As you know, the third man at OKC was “John Doe #2.”  Isn’t it interesting that if Padilla ever claimed to be “John Doe #2″ it could easily be dismissed that he adopted that identity as a result of the interrogation techniques?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Everything that I have read about Padilla’s treatment indicates that there was little effort made to retrieve information and maximum effort to fry his brain.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-901067"><em>albertchampion @ 186</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>dear larue,</p>
<p>by my analysis, padilla was the “third” man at OKBOMB. </p>
<p>…</p>
<p>anyway, look at the drawing of the OKBOMB third man. and then look at a pic of jose upon his arrest. they are virtually identical.
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<p>I find the compulsory signing of his name as “John Doe” to be VERY, VERY curious.  As you know, the third man at OKC was “John Doe #2.”  Isn’t it interesting that if Padilla ever claimed to be “John Doe #2″ it could easily be dismissed that he adopted that identity as a result of the interrogation techniques?</p>
<p>Everything that I have read about Padilla’s treatment indicates that there was little effort made to retrieve information and maximum effort to fry his brain.</p>
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