While we await a response from Sen. Collins on her campaign staff’s insulting “fem-blog” blunder with their own blogger error, we need to clear the air on a point of particular confusion.
Despite Mr. Dutson’s online presence as campaign foot-in-mouth flack, the public mouthpiece for the campaign to date has been Collins’ own Senate office Chief of Staff, Steve Abbott. As Jane pointed out yesterday evening, we had erroneously credited him as the campaign spokesperson because he has popped up so frequently in that capacity in press reports and releases. But he doesn’t have an “official” role with the campaign.
Sen. Collins is already facing questions about her current Senate run — because she had promised, her first term and her second term, that she would serve “two terms, and then come home.” A promise that she reiterated to constituents repeatedly through the years…until, that is, she decided to run for re-election for a third term this year to keep her comfy Senate seat.
Now, Collins faces additional issues: whether she is really the moderate she poses as in public — or the staunch conservative her voting record and endorsement of Iraq war cheerleader John McCain’s presidential bid show her to be on a whole host of issues.
And now this about Abbott: what job is his primary one? And is the public dime paying for his “campaign volunteer spokesperson” expenses? And how much work is he really doing for the public while contemplating his own run for office? Maybe it’s just my old-fashioned, West Virginia values talking — but if the public is paying your salary, then I think you owe them a full day’s work. And the big question is: are voters in Maine actually getting one?
Are all these trips back home to Maine and phone calls and FAXes to the press paid for by Abbott directly? By the Collins’ campaign? By her Senate office — which would be an ethics violation, if I’m reading Senate regs correctly (PDF — see rule 34)? Are they done on the public’s time — because campaign issues don’t just crop up at convenient after-hours moments, now do they? And doesn’t the public have a right to know all of this?
Seems to me that Sen. Collins has been taking lessons from Karl Rove and the Bush Administration on mixing the public’s business with political operations geared toward marshalling all available resources for her re-election campaign. Sounds a bit too close to the USAttys mess for comfort, to me.
Here Abbott is, for example, in an April, 2007 quote with Hotline, touting her close working relationship with Joe Lieberman as a “model of bi-partisanship.” Yes, because Lieberman is the model of a modern “bi-partisan”, self-serving, Bush-war-policy loving neocon, now isn’t he? And as for her “moderate” protestation, as the General points out ably here, her voting record on judicial appointments is akin to Thad Cochran and Trent Lott, not exactly the “moderate” record there either.
But, back to Mr. Abbott. Here he is again, this time having written an open letter on behalf of the Collins’ campaign to the press all over Maine. He is, again, speaking as a campaign spokesperson while simultaneously working on the public’s behalf (and the public’s dime? one wonders who is footing the bill for his tireless campaign work…), as her Senate chief of staff.
Mr. Abbott is quite the busy little bee, isn’t he? But, on whose behalf is he working: Sen. Collins’ constituents — the citizens of Maine? Sen. Collins re-election hopes, despite her promises to the contrary that she wouldn’t be running for a third term at all? Or his own political aspirations? Inquiring minds and all that…
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Christy!
Christy!
Biodun @ 1
Dude, you’re fast!!
Thanks Christy – A Susan piece – I heart you!
Mr, Abbott isn’t the only busy little bee,looks like our Christy has been VERY busy.
You get a gold star for doing all of your homework.
*g*
Richmond at 4 — We aim to please. *G*
Moderate Republicans wring their hands in public before voting with the hard liners.
barbara @ 3
I have a secret method…*g*
Joey and Suzie sittin’ in a tree
Full of BS and pissin’ on me
First comes lyin’
then comes cheatin’
Then comes ActBlue
to put a beatin’ to ‘em
Kevster @ 9
Now I’ll have that stuck in my head for the rest of the day.
Oh, my. These people are dirty beyond belief, aren’t they? And so arrogant because they’re used to having their dirtiness ignored by the press.
I’ll settle for under twenty.
I love the smell of snark in the afternoon. It smells like…..victory. Or Christy and FDL.
A question about something that troubles me….
Slightly off-topic, but Lieberman seems to be involved in both the Collins love-fest and another one I’ve just read about.
Specifically, has anyone read the article about Hillary’s Faith in the September/October Mother Jones?
I have – reluctantly – been moving toward supporting Clinton (my reason…she’s a woman but that’s the only reason – I dislike all of the candidates!) but this article makes me re-think that position.
I truly am getting to the point of bailing out on the POTUS race in 2008. In fact, I may bail on everything political, I am that turned off.
I thought for sure you were going to call Mr. Dutson the campaign’s foot-in-mouthpiece.
“two terms, and then come home.”
Well 3 is nearly two more or less. And besides if you think that 3 is more than 2, the terrorists win, so there.
I had the pleasure this morning of telling a caller from the DCCC that I would never give another cent of money until my elected officials in DC showed me they had some courage and guts. It was great fun. He even told me he was Kucinich.
OT
Jenna Bush getting married to a Karl Rove intern. There is a good joke in there somewhere.
hayduke @ 17
I don’t know which one to feel sorry for.
“Gimmee two terms and I’ll drain the cesspool.”
Found a sauna and decided to stay.
What’s her record for opposing Bush? 2, maybe 3 percent? At least one of them is redundant and both of them are wrong. Sayanara Sue.
hayduke @ 17
Man was I close. Me a couple of threads back:
JF @ 57
“I have – reluctantly – been moving toward supporting Clinton (my reason…she’s a woman but that’s the only reason – I dislike all of the candidates!) but this article makes me re-think that position.”
Sha @ 13: Please reconsider this position. Please be open minded to the point of view that HRC is really no different than Lieberman. Then look at all the other Dem candidates and vote your self interest. As for bailing on the POTUS race, please don’t. If for no other reason than to prevent more Alitos.
Re Jenna, ironic is it not that her fiance was doing to her what he was helping Rove do to the country?
Who said this famous quote relating to politicians demanding retractions from publishers:
“Never argue with someone who buys ink by the barrel.”
Teehee. We don’t even have to buy ink anymore.
Way to go Christy!
Amazing how much work Abbott gets done as a campaign flack when he’s supposed to be working for the people of Maine (and we all foot the bill!)
Last Thursday I went to a town hall meeting with Senator Spector. He made a comment about bipartisanship. Claming it was needed in the senate. He then followed by saying that there used to be about 20 moderate republicans but now there were only 3 Snow, Collins and himself. We all know that those three only talk a moderate line but don’t vote it. My other thought was that if there were truly only 3 moderates then bipartisanship would be hard to come by if even it would be useful(I don’t think it would be). I thought to myself that he destroyed his own agrument. It was an interesting morning. The crowd was mostly confrontational.
Hugh @ 22
How do you know he was abusing her? That’s a pretty serious accusation.
The week leading up to the Alito vote, when I and many of you were faxing, calling and writing to get Collins to vote against him, and her people informed us they were getting lots of “heat,” this is what Abbott had to say. And Senator Susan was on a jaunt apparently.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..72_pf.html
jim oconnor @ 21
I know. I know. I know. My heart is breaking. I was so upbeat after November, 06 and now I am so depressed. I am still angry at Obama and Clinton and friends who kicked us Ned Lamont supporters in the teeth…and just getting to the point of saying to myself, “Get over it Sha”.
But I am really really low right now. I am weeping inside for this country and the future of my children – and all kids in this world.
Sigh.
Sha @ 28
If you allow them to keep you from voting, they win. That’s exactly what they want. Anger voters make good voters !
jim oconnor @ 21
I had a Social Studies teacher in high school who told us one day that there is NEVER an excuse for not voting, no matter how disgusted you are; that it is “the responsibility of every citizen to make a choice.” Some of the wisest words I ever heard.
Only two short paragraphs are not blacked out in Mueller’s notes. Ashcroft was in physical stress, but this seems amazing. Mueller says Ashcroft
was “barred” from getting legal advice on TSP/OIA. The White House was preventing a proper investigation by an Attorney General, of its legality. It seems Ashcroft told this to Gonzales and Card. How convenient for Gonzo and Rove, but this might be new information. Also Comey seemed to worry about other secret visits from Gonzo-no visitors other than family.
____________________
The AG also told them that he was barred from obtaining the advice he needed on the program by the strict compartmentalization rules of the WH. Comey asked me to briefly meet with the AG to see his condition. He also asked that I inform the detail that no visitors, other than family, were to be allowed to see the AG without my consent. (I so informed the detail.)
From today’s WaPo. An article about house bombs, IEDs designed to be triggered by American soldiers walking into Iraqi houses. You’d think this was a bad thing, but actually, no.
Hugh @ 22
if I am correct you are channeling Woody Allen rather than accusing anyone of abuse.
hayduke @ 17
That boy has won the lottery. He’ll never have to work a day in his life, so long as he remains a loyal Bushie.
oddmommy @ 33
Pretty much. You have a good memory for movies *g*
hayduke @ 17
Since you bring it up…
In the seventies I went to Va Beach with my future husband and his bachelor friends. One was John Hager the fiancee’s father. He was a nice boy , very large and we called him Baby Huey. We partied a lot and John Hager was a friend of mine.
I got divorced and moved away from Richmond but I know that John had a son and when he was vaccinated for polio , in a freak accident, John got polio. He is still in a wheelchair.
Thanks for listening…Ive had a huge blast from the past with this news.
hayduke @ 17
This time the mythical arrow through heart was real.
So, Tony Snow’s following Karl Rove’s footsteps.
At the risk of sounding preachy, my motion is for job-referenced comments, rather than wishing one ill.
Seems the less ammunition provided in the form of being labeled heartless or cruel, the better. Ugliness only comes back to bite its source. The high — principled — road is only positive.
Hugh @ 35
I have a good memory for seemingly endless quantities of relatively useless information. It’s funny cuz I didn’t think I had that many brain cells left. : )
Badwater @ 34
“Give him a living. But never discuss the family business with him.” paraphrasing Don Corleone for the Bush crime family.
http://www.ed.gov/news/photos/…..206_1.html
My old friend John Hager father of the Groom. They arent hurting for money. John married into an old wealthy Richmond family.
This is OT, and I apologize, but wanted to get it in here while I have a chance between clients. http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?S=6937987 This is a story about how the clergy may be mobilized to “calm the populace” in the event of a declaration of martial law, and was how the clergy was used in the aftermath of Katrina. My mind has just stopped, literally. I cannot allow myself to take in the fact that this is a news story.
know. I know. I know. My heart is breaking. I was so upbeat after November, 06 and now I am so depressed. I am still angry at Obama and Clinton and friends who kicked us Ned Lamont supporters in the teeth…and just getting to the point of saying to myself, “Get over it Sha”.
But I am really really low right now. I am weeping inside for this country and the future of my children – and all kids in this world.
—————–
Sha, I understand your feelings. Weep now and then get back up, back out there and fight. Your children, and the children of the world, are depending on you and the millions of other fine Americans – good, decent people who believe in justice and democracy – to fight to give them a world worth living in.
“If you allow them to keep you from voting, they win. That’s exactly what they want. Anger voters make good voters!”
I WAS FURIOUS IN 2006 – AND PUT MY HEART AND SOUL INTO NED LAMONT’S CAMPAIGN. I WILL NOT PUT ANY OF MY EMOTION (OR HEART OR MONEY) INTO THE NEXT ELECTION.
“I had a Social Studies teacher in high school who told us one day that there is NEVER an excuse for not voting, no matter how disgusted you are; that it is “the responsibility of every citizen to make a choice.” Some of the wisest words I ever heard.”
CAN I WRITE-IN WES CLARK ON THE DAY OF THE ELECTION? IF YES, I WILL DEFINTELY SHOW UP!
Linda @ 41
Did I miss something? From the article:
I don’t remember that it was done away with. Am I misremembering?
Sha at 43 — I know you are upset, but please don’t shout in the comments. My eyes are tired today, and I’d appreciate it if everyone doesn’t overwork them any more than they already are. Thanks…
JF — You are not misremembering.
Sha @ 28: Don’t get mad. Get even.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 46
A case of bad journalism, then?
jim oconnor @ 47
perhaps that it is the best way of putting it.
Not voting, or throwing your vote away on a “write-in,” helps them, and hurts us. It’s that simple.
This presents a wonderful opportunity for the people of Maine to enforce her pledge. Conrad Burns made the same statement to Montana, but it took the voters there an extra six years to enforce it. Here’s hoping the citizens of Maine are a bit more timely.
Linda @ 41
Religion and Bushco have had a symbiotic relationship. It harkens back to Constantinople. Catholics, Baptists, Fundys, Evangelicals are have benefited by Faith based initiatives. They show their appreciation by recommending the Republican party to their congregations.
Now democrats like Hillary and Barack are playing the me too game, instead of standing on principles.
Lieberman.
When I hear people call him moderate, it reminds me of Jon Swift’s ‘Modest Proposal’
Every time Lieberman comes up with a fresh new idea, I like to call it Lieberman’s ‘Moderate Proposal’
The public’s right to know????? When did that happen? The public has NO RIGHTS WHATSOEVER. The president decides who has rights and who doesn’t. The public and Congress don’t. The president runs this country and NO ONE ELSE. He decides which laws will be enforced and which laws won’t(Hatch Act,FISA,etc). So when Sen. Collins tells you to STFU, she has the entire government of the United States of America(aka George W. Bush) behind her. Now go back to eating your crayons.
We need a primal scream room here.
Linda @ 41
It must be the Rapture!
Sally @ 54
I use my closet and you would not believe the words that my clothes have heard !
And Sha, you’ve got to know that there are many of us who share your disappointment, more, outrage at the CT result in 2006. Many of us hit the streets going door to door, or manned the phones, or pulled out our checkbooks, or supported Ned in whatever way we could. He would’ve made a great Senator, and my hope is that he will be, in the near future.
Hard to say whether it was worse that Ned didn’t win, or that shmuck did win. And personally? All that missing money? The prevalence of rigged voting? I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Lieberman for Lieberman didn’t “win” the election same way chimp did.
So, rest, recharge, find out who Ned’s endorsing, roll up your sleeves, and DO IT AGAIN!
Linda @ 42
“Dr. Durell Tuberville serves as chaplain for the Shreveport Fire Department and the Caddo Sheriff’s Office. Tuberville said of the clergy team’s mission, “the primary thing that we say to anybody is, ‘let’s cooperate and get this thing over with and then we’ll settle the differences once the crisis is over.’”
Such clergy response teams would walk a tight-rope during martial law between the demands of the government on the one side, versus the wishes of the public on the other. “In a lot of cases, these clergy would already be known in the neighborhoods in which they’re helping to diffuse that situation,” assured Sandy Davis. He serves as the director of the Caddo-Bossier Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness.
For the clergy team, one of the biggest tools that they will have in helping calm the public down or to obey the law is the bible itself, specifically Romans 13. Dr. Tuberville elaborated, “because the government’s established by the Lord, you know. And, that’s what we believe in the Christian faith. That’s what’s stated in the scripture.”
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! That is a blatant violation of the separation of church and state by
chokeHomeland Security, isn’t it?!Oddmommy @ 50: You’re right. I meant get even by getting active. Work/contribute in local campaigns for progressives if the national scene turns you off. Or become a candidate yourself.
hackworth @ 52
Reminds me of the “Gott Mit Uns” beltbuckles of WWII
Christy Hardin Smith @ 46
Whoops – I was trying to differentiate my comments from the ones I was quoting (without using the entire block) and didn’t realize HOW BIG they would be.
Sorry to you all!
oddmommy @ 30
We used to be told that if you don’t vote, you can’t bitch. So I vote every time and then bitch my ass off.
oddmommy @ 30
if you live in a democracy and do not vote
are you supporting democracy?
you really can’t have it both ways
some of the things i look at-
where the candidate comes from
the candidates’ record of fiscal responsibility
the candidates record of public action
my own gut instinct
the gender of the candidate is irrelevant(see m thatcher and the swinging handbag)
Christy, you’re like a tough police interrogator with 25 years experience at flipping hardened criminals. And this is supposed to be a fem-blog? Ha.
Ted Stevens also has a senate clerk doing his personal business – what a scam for these duly elected officials.
Senator collins and Iraq war issue: A short interesting video on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..&eurl=
LS @ 59
re: Romans 13
Isn’t this the exact source of the thinking behind the “divine right” of kings, as in Louis XVI?
Unbelievable. I’d like to see the communications with the clergy regarding this program: unless it’s *cough* super-duper-secret. Ga.
Srsly.
Sha @ 13
Also, don’t get taken in by the media’s perpetual focus on the “horse race” aspect of the presidential race. National polls are meaningless at this point; state polls are nearly as meaningless this far out. The political media will crown someone a sure winner right up to the point where they tank; nothing is decided at this point.
My point is, if the state of the presidential race bugs you, either work for a candidate you respect (if there is one) or ignore the news, which despite the sound and fury signifies nearly nothing at this point, and work for other candidates or causes that you do respect.
To paraphrase NRA, they ain’t gonna get my right to bitch till they pry it outta my cold dead hands.
Devil’s advocate.
Everyone should vote?
What difference does it make?
There’s only one party when you get right down to it.
Besides, the presidential vote outcome in my state is a given.
Under the electoral college winner-takes-all scheme, my vote wouldn’t count one way or the other.
fdl reader @ 68
The thinking as I’ve heard it from the Christian fundamentalists is that everything that is, is because God has a plan. That W is president whether good or bad, because that is God’s will, and “we” have to accept that. In other words, W is a tool of God, and the hand of God moves W’s hand. Translated, that also means that W is like the Pope, infallible, which he clearly believes himself. He cannot “sin”, because he is saved. They don’t really believe in the “free will” of the people concept that the Catholics believe. Only the Pope is infallible…
Christy AFA is starting a drive to stop hate crime bill just thought I would let everone know to start writing critters!
Redshift — will you be able to make it tomorrow?
While Romans 13 does speak about respecting the government, Revelation 13 speaks about challenging the government.
I don’t expect to hear Fire Department chaplains quoting from Revelation 13.
Jonathan at 71: You sound just like my spouse.
LS @ 72
I forgot all that … too.
So is this “program” for all clergy or only fundamental christian leaders? Some Christians lean left, don’t they?
And not to cast any aspersions but how does this fit into the mega-church self-funding model. They don’t *work* for free. For anyone.
Jonathan @ 71
Jonathon, you sound like you come directly from the DLC with those questions. You know, the folks who trashed the idea of Dean’s 50 state stratgey.
Yes, we have to fight to get through the noise but don’t ever give up on the voting just because you think it won’t make any difference. And this is from years and years of life in deeply red states and congressional districts.
if people would just follow the words of christ and not the apostle paul we’d all be better off – that is if you say you’re a christian… jesus was the original progressive as i read the scriptures imho
Jonathan @ 71
50% 1
little things add up
Peterr @ 75
Like in manyh other areas, these folks are real good at selectively quoting those aspects of the bible that fit their mind set and ignoring the rest.
My folks always said you could cover just about any argument from any angle through a bible quote if you looked hard enough.
Again, I do not understand how there are rules and once installed these congress people think the rules don’t matter. And in the end they don’t because no one notices.
So, thanks Christy for following up on this … I was wondering about it. I saw a comment that the CoS was the *only* role that is allowed to be involved in campaigning. I assume that was bogus, of course!
Sha @ 28
I feel exactly the same way, BUT!!!!
I am voting anti-Republican the time out.
that was
50% plus 1
(now who said that and what happened next?)
Oilfieldguy @ 23
That would be Mark Twain. I can only imagine what Twain’s blog would be like. *g*
OT — Having just loaded up a 27 ft moving truck, driven halfway across the country, and unloaded it in KC, my hat is off to you and your fellow truck drivers.
dakine01 @ 80
OMG I was watching Paula Jones last night and some guy was on pushing his book “Jesus Wants You to Be a Millionaire” or something. He said, “Jesus was not POOR!! Jesus was RICH. Nobody would have dropped their fishing nets to follow a guy who was dressed in rags and pushing a shopping cart full of aluminum cans. Jesus was wearing an ARMANI SUIT.”
fdl reader @ 77
Anyone who follows Christ, is Christian – period. Within that are all sorts of interpretations of the New Testament. The particular thinking of the evangelicals is that they are working for God, as God’s warriors. Any tithe money, is God’s money, and therefore, if a pastor is “moved” to ask for money, it is because God moved him to ask for “His” money. There is an easy explanation for everything they do. There is a point where they dare not think for themselves, because then they are afraid they will be led astray by Satan, so they are easily kept in line by following “the Leader”.
dakine01 @ 81
Hell, you don’t always have to look very hard. I told my ex-ex-father in law that when I saw him and all the people in his church sell all that they owned and give it to the poor, I accept that he truly believed in the literal inerrancy of the Bible. Last I heard about inerrancy.
Peterr @ 84
We are so glad to have you back, Are you settled in yet? How is KC?
Sparkles the Iguana @ 86
Yup. And that’s the source of at least some of the neglect of the poor … they’re poor because they are supposed to be and if they were good christians they would be rewarded with financial success.
Eek.
Peterr @ 85
And in such ‘moderate’ weather too.
Try the Wyandot Bar-B-Q in Overland Park.
^_^
Is getting under the Senator’s thin skin a page from the recent Clinton campaign tactics?
OMG I was watching Paula Jones last night and some guy was on pushing his book “Jesus Wants You to Be a Millionaire” or something. He said, “Jesus was not POOR!! Jesus was RICH. Nobody would have dropped their fishing nets to follow a guy who was dressed in rags and pushing a shopping cart full of aluminum cans. Jesus was wearing an ARMANI SUIT.”
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Prosperity theology is such a crock. If you ever come across one of these people, as I have, don’t ask how they reconcile their belief and the verse of the Bible where Jesus said that it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to attain heaven, or words to that effect. It just makes them confused and defensive.
LS @ 87
Yes, I’ve seen this kind of thinking prevent these people thinking very benign thoughts just because it was not in the approved lexicon they were being taught. Yes, I have been warned of the dangers of even listening to conversation outside the group; I was risking exposure to evil.
They are cults.
OT, but this at the carpetbagger report is worth a read, and perhaps an action. They have the spotlight feature.
jesus was wearing an armani suit?
armani suit?
really??
jeez,armani is looking really good for his age, isn’t he.
Twain @ 29
Apathy by Democrats is the Republicans great equalizer. Last night I watched a PBS special about our history during the 60s. In ‘68, with the Democrats disgusted over Humphrey being nominated over McCarthy, not to mention all the violence at the Chicago Democratic Convention, apathy set in big time. All the activists interviewed on the show admitted they didn’t bother to vote. Nixon won with less than a 1 percent margin. Funny thing, too, seeing how history, with regards to war, repeats itself.
may @ 96
Botox.
Swopa is in da house.
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..n/#respond
Jane and Christie, your work is appreciated by all progressives and we thank you. Susan Collins has had her last election and will join the few neocons for whom she voted in a circle of retirement. Lieberman is next.
Let’s see . . . chief of staff gives assistance to the Senator’s campaign? That rings a bell . . .
From the Senate Ethics Committee’s quick reference guide on campaign-related questions [pdf], the very first sentence is this: “Use of official resources to assist campaign organizations. Senate space, equipment, staff time, and resources generally should not be used to assist campaign organizations.”
Oops.
The committee chair is Barbara Boxer, who might be interested in hearing more about this upseting use of Senate resources for partisan politics. Maine and California Firepups are especially encouraged to contact Sen Boxer.
LS at 72
The thinking as I’ve heard it from the Christian fundamentalists is that everything that is, is because God has a plan.
Footnote, FWIW.
In Newtonian physics, all is pre-determined.
Whe quantum mechanics (especially Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle) came along in the early 20th century, the universe changed from having a clocklike quality to being a matter of probabilities.
Einstein never fully bought into quantum mechanics. Said he couldn’t believe God played dice with the universe (NB how certain ideas die hard, real hard).
juslin @ 78
Fair enough. I understand your good intentions.
As progressives, we should recognize both the current and historical calamities (and lesser problems) that religion has caused our society and others around the world.
The separation of Church and State is of critical and utmost importance to maintaining a Democratic Republic.
When Hillary and Barack talk about their personal religious beliefs when campaigning, they do a disservice to Democracy (just as Dubya and Raygun has done).
Jonathan @ 102
Interesting also, because quantum physics experiments seem to show that the pattern of the particles changes when “attention” is paid to them. Maybe if we pay a lot of “attention”, W’s quantum particles will change their pattern too. ;>
LS @ 104
shining the light of attention on dark places definitely changes the pattern
secrets and lies need darkness to exist
Marshen at 65 — That’s the nicest thing anyone has said to me all day. *g*
snowbird42 @ 36
Actually, getting polio from a polio vaccination, while relatively rare, accounts for almost all of the polio cases in the US.
There’s a “live” polio vaccine, which can cause this, and there’s a vaccine made from killed polio virus, which doesn’t.
However, the “live” vaccine is the one taken orally; the “killed” on requires an injection. You can imagine which one health professionals encourage, to increase inoculation rates.
Medical professionals need to warn parents of kids getting the “live” vaccine of this possibility, and urge them to be very careful about contact with their child’s feces (which can contain live cells) right after a shot’s been administered.
Oilfieldguy @ 19
Late to this thread (so EPU). We was wonderin’ where you was, oilfieldguy???
FYI:
Steven W. Abbott’s (quarterly) salary–rich, vs. what Mainers earn.