Good morning. Read this and then bring your coffee to the next thread — by about 8:45 EDT.
The photo at left (AP/File/Ramzi Haidar) shows UN minesweepers looking for the thousands of unexploded bomblets the Israelis left in Lebanon during their effort to get rid of a group they and the US regard as “terrorists.” The two nations think it’s okay to do this if the targets are terrorists.
A few weeks back readers here were dismayed when the Senate gave near unanimous approval of a resolution by Senator Lieberman essentially calling Iran an enemy of America. Democrats claimed that softening amendments made the resolution harmless and thus took the cowardly path of a cheap vote against a country that the Administration and its neocon advisors and allies keeping painting as the next desirable battle ground. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.
Now the Washington Post’s Robin Wright reports the Administration wants to designate as a “special designated global terrorist” organization, Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corps, which the US military in Iraq accuses of supplying arms and training to those killing American troops. The designation then triggers statutes and programs designed to punish and financially isolate so-called terrorist groups. And all this will be done under the guise that “Congress is pressuring the Administration” to take a tougher stand with Iran.
There may once have been some useful role for such designations when used by a more responsible and less belligerent US Administration, but it’s hard to argue that this name calling and the provocation it carries is a good weapon to leave in the arsenal of one of the most war-mongering and irresponsible Administrations in our history. The Bush/Cheney/Rice team has an unfortunately history of applying the designation to inconvenient groups that simply don’t fit its simplistic good versus evil view of the world. These are often groups we should be engaging in regional dialogue and diplomacy instead of threatening and isolating, a policy that tends more to cause innocent suffering and radicalization than the moderation it is supposed to accomplish.
Treating people that way tends to make them angry enough to lob rockets at you, if they didn’t already have an excuse. Designating as terrorist organizations Hamas in Palestine and Hezbolla in Lebanon has not been helpful. If anything, it has served as a pretext for allowing hardcore Israelis to avoid negotiations and carry out military operations, with either the urging or tacit support of the US Government. The results are troubling in every case.
George Bush has been lecturing our friends in Iraq and Afghanistan about how unconstructive a role Iran is playing in Afghantistan and Iraq. This from the man who invaded both countries, and invaded Iraq based on lies and imperialist notions.
More rational leaders think it’s a good idea to sit down and talk with their neighbors. Here’s a picture of what talking looks like when done by our friend, Afghanistan’s President Karzai. Here’s a picture of what it looks like for our friend, Prime Minister al Maliki. And here’s a picture of the consequences of the Bush/Israeli policy in Lebanon. Which is better?
You would think by now that the Democratic Congress would have learned how dangerous it is to give the Bush/Cheney Administration any further discretion or excuse for exacerbating their already belligerent policies in the Middle East. But Congress never seems to get it.
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Well! A first.
Caw, caw! Good morning Scarecrow.
screw being first. Hows this to mull over with a cuppa. This chimp is using EXecutive Order to declare a part of the Iranian Army as a terrorist org! Now, please tell me that I am incorrect but if you declare “part” of a countrys’ army as a terrorist org, aren’t you bypassing congress and declaring war on a country?
Read the Executive Order!I believe it is EO 13303.
billjpa
Good morning Scarecrow. And am I scared this morning… you bet I am. Not only is the warmongering bushco about to create more devilment with Iran but now the Likud is going to be led by Netenyahoo who is, without doubt, the most warmongering of the warmongering Israelis (before people get upset. not all Israelis, just the most beligerent…you know the government).
This is all boding ill for peace anytime soon in the ME.
Umm, sow the wind, reap the whirlwind….
Right on Scarecrow! Like so much that they do, naming is central to their policy. They name a foreign governments national army group as “terrorists” then when they go into Iran, they are not invading Iran, they are eradicating terrorists. When they bomb Iran and hit related targets, it is again not Iran that gets hit, but terrorists.
This too is sounding strangly neo-biblical. You create (the problem), you name (the problem) and then you punish (this same problem for some kind of sin). More nuts all around, please.
This is indeed a hugely important initiative, yet another way for Republicans to declare a covert war without actually being subject to the War Powers Act. It is insidious, Orwellian, and pure bad faith — but it is also happening and we need to tell our congresspeople to fight it tooth and nail.
Good morning Scarecrow… and I am scared this morning.
The warmongering bushco is all set to declare part of the Iran military as terrorists at the same time that Israel is all set to elect Netenyahoo, the most belligerent of the Israeli belligerents. This is not a good thing and the timing is ominous.
Netenyahoo would love any excuse to drop a nuke on Iran and here is bushco opening the door wide for the israelis to continue their warmongering. Yet another shiny object except this time it might well have a mushroom cloud attached.
Sorry, got to be the English police, but wouldn’t the last sentence paragraph 3 be “Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind”
Cause you see you usually sow the seed before you reap it.
Oh yeah the whole right wing war machine are @#$%in idiots if they think that they are just going to bomb Iran, cause we ain’t got no more troops.
Tom
It’s not unreasonable, given recent events, to expect stupidity from both Dems and `pugs for the foreseeable future. That’s not a reason to forego givin’ `em hell, but I have no faith that Congress will do anything, at this point, that is not in accord with what the state of Israel wishes.
Poor, dumb, manipulable idjits don’t get smart overnight.
Per C-Span, they will show the “hearing” on wiretapping on Saturday…….no time indicated. Not sure if they meant the court case that is taking place today or a political hearing from an earlier date.
‘mornin scarecrow, howz coffee?
anyway, it is mind boggling ANYONE is letting the president say ANYTHING about Iran.
this as an INCREDIBLE opportunity for democrats, when the president makes his INSANE claims regarding Iran the democrats need to laugh in the face of the person presenting those points
then we need to barrage the mariontte with the very reason bush can no longer lead and that will begin to set the tone for impeachment
we need to say things like;
“excuse me
we know as a fact this president initiates unprovoked waragainst countries his finest aids inform him posed no threat
we know as a fact this president manufactures data, edits it to suit the pnac agenda, and looks for any justification he can come up with to move forward the plans of a sick and maniacle society he and cheney have been members of for decades
a society so sick AND DEPRAVED they WANT unrest in the middle east
there is no way on the planet a sane person can accept the preisidents claims he now makes provoking yet another war.
a war we are now far less capable of conducting thanks to the irresponsible military decsions of an administration that has demonstrated they are military morons.
this president has lost any credibility and congress cannot accept his interperatations of intelligence.
he has fooled us before, he has brought ruin his own credibility and if this administration really believes Iran is a threat then they need to do what any patriot would do;
if Iran is a threat to America then this adminsitration needs to resign so that an administration that enjoys credibility can examine the data and make decisions we would accept as legitimate”
BING
get the dialogue about impeachment WHERE IT BELONGS, making it clear this nation needs a new administration that enjoys credibility if we are really to face the enemies the president claims exist.
raven @ 3
Yes, though I may be proven right on the error.
montag @ 6
Pre-coffee — refresh.
I also wrote the phrase, “food me once . . . can’t fool me again.”
The fact that this came about on the day Rove leaves gives credence to those who saw this as a showdown between him and Cheney, with Cheney and the neocon pro-Iran invasion thugs winning.
Is there anything that Congress can do at this point? What about rescinding the original go-to-war order. That would be a start.
Scarecrow @ 14
That’s understandable–that’s just a mosh of putting food on one’s family and can’t get fooled again…. :)
Scarecrow @ 15
when you visit new york scarecrow, I will gladly food you.
drinks, dinner, computers and blogging
sounds like a good night
Guns, Money, Bad Guys And “Good” Guys
Does anyone seriously believe General Saint Petraeus’ story about 190,000 guns – weighing in excess of 475 tons and worth over $50 million – being “misplaced” because they were kicked out of helicopters?
Especially when there are tales of crooked arms dealers and back-door deals with the mafia?
I for one don’t. The more is revealed about the corruption surrounding the biggest heist in history – the theft of half the Iraqi defense procuration budget of around $1.3 billion – which occured while Petraeus was in a position of oversight responsibility, the more it seems likely to me that at least some of that activity has seen the same kind of corruption alleged in the case of Maj. James Cockerham, recently arrested for the largest Army contract-rigging and bribery case to emerge from the Iraq reconstruction effort. It’s not like he’s the first US officer to face such allegations.
Nor is this about mere graft, as The Fifth Estate points out. It’s about either graft or weapons being used to kill US troops or both. Fifth Estate has also been counting reports and figures the number of missing weapons is far higher than admitted so far. Perhaps as much as 300,000 missing guns, plus ammunition, worth around $100 million all told. Although it pales by comparison with the 363 tons ($9 billion) in cash that the US occupation managed to lose in Iraq, it’s still not chump change.
http://www.reuters.com/article…..OR77fHrDXw
You think only Israel and the US regard Hizbollah as a terrorist organization? How about Canada, the Netherlands, and the European parliament? And Hamas- it’s been designated a terrorist organization by the EU, Canada, and Jordan.
What is surprising or irrational about a political movement deciding to use terror as a tactic to advance its goals? Why do you sneer at the idea that there can be such a thing as a terrorist organization?
Maybe you’re right that talking to terrorists is a good idea. But don’t pretend that they’re something other than what they are.
Scarecrow @ 14
Roger that.
from hence forward my new term for nourishing will be to turn “food” into a verb
I will food myself for lunch and I will food my dates for dinner
it’s another expression created at the lake
well done scarecrow
nomolos @ 5
I’m looking at the same picture. Combine with Cheney’s statements last week that we should initiate operations against Iran . . .
Bushisms spewing from Scarecrow this morning, let’s all have another cuppa.
Bloix @ 19
Uh, huh. That’s really helpful. And there’s so much wisdom in it.
Read Martin van Creveld.
Evidently, screwing up two wars is not enough for the imperialist Bush/Cheney Regime. They are striving for that 3rd times a charm mantra.
Could any of our Democratic leaders stand up and speak for the majority of the American people? A nice long filibuster, outlining all of the mis-representations, the mistakes, the failed policy decisions shoved down the throats of the American people in the name of fighting terrorist, would be a nice start.
I would respect and possibly vote for a Democratic Senator who would stand up to this LAME DUCK president. No money for anything Georgie until you come back with an immediate re-deployment plan. Period end of Subject.
And duh, maybe if we did not have 140,000 troops right next door to Iran, they might relax a little bit and be willing to pursue more diplomatic avenues. Just a thought.
Diane @ 24
and we need to food with our cuppa dontcha know
If you were trying to think of one thing at which bushco *has* excelled, it would be provocation. ;-(
Diane @ 24
There are so many openings in the Administration, what with Karl leaving and all. I thought I’d apply. Assistant speech writer. Whaddaya think?
Anyone that does not think a confirmed Holocaust denier like Ahmadinejad and his radical brand of Shi’ite Muslims are not a terrorist threat to this country should look at the serial numbers of the munitions used to kill our servicemen; then look at the nuclear armaments they are attempting to develop against all agreements they have signed. If ANY Israeli government–or the US–were to pre-emptively destroy those nuclear munitions in making they would be doing the World a Service as Israel did in 1982.
Apparently George W. Bush never played RISK as a kid. Everyone knows you don’t try to attack in two directions at once; you build up and then sweep across the map.
One would think a history major would know this, but it is Shrub we are talking about here.
By the way, as with the early morning Rove announcement a couple of days ago. It is great to have an early morning post up. And this one is terrific. (No future expectations, but many thanks).
On “lost” arms,Jon Stewart had a great take recently.
Bloix @ 20
I don’t deny that there are groups who use terrorist methods and I don’t condone any of it — what I object to is the hypocisy of nation states that employ exactly the same tactics agains their foes, and then claim we won’t talk to anyone else we designate. I don’t see how dropping cluster bombs in civilian areas is any less reprehensible as a terrorist tactic than what we saw yesterday in Northern Iraq. And when the US bombs a school to get “al qaeda,” but ignores the likelihood of civilian casualties, I don’t think it gives us much a moral edge.
As long as the word terrorism is used in the dialog people and the congress will go all paranoid all the time irrationally and there is hardly a thing that can be done.
Terror goes right to the fear thing… it’s not about armies facing off, but they might take me out on the freeway or in the Mall and that means I need the gov to go after the nasties who would do that.
To make sure that the terror taunt always works… all you need is some fake ops, false flag whatever to get everyone’s knickers in a knot.
And don’t forget that it was the Iranian students a generation ago that did that kidnapping routine and are now grown up and in charge in Iran. They are now a state which is inexorably linked to terrorism in the mind of the public. Americans simply see Iran as “the enemy”.
But the right needs to manufacture an excuse to attack and get at their oil. So they start with all the fear mongering about them on the road to getting a nuke to launch at Minnesota lickity split.
Face it… Americans are dumb and skeered and will buy the rubbish as they did when 9.11 went down… that they wanted to take our freedom away blah blah blah. And that applies to congress critters… Most are horribly uninformed and the rest are just ideologues there to make money.
Looks like it will end with a bang and not a whimper. Dr. Strangelove… you’re on.
Scarecrow @ 29
Not worth it. You’d have to make nice to a bunch of right-wing assholes every day. It’ll give you an ulcer.
montag @ 34
They’re already giving me stomach aches. Think what I could do by tweaking a few words here and there.
hey, get this…ann coulter is actually claiming rove is “responsible for the stupid stuff bush does”
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/….._0814.html
now, we all know rove is an idiot responsible for the fall of the republican party but ann is the first neo con pundit to make the claim as well
I think rove is about to understand what being “hrown under the bus” really means
I think one of the most damaging things to happen to our country was the rhetoric of Reagan et al, that made “peaceniks” and “negotiation” bad words. Nothing has been done by dems to counter the absolute b.s that Reagan brought down the soviet union because he scared them into submission with his tough talk.
It makes me sick. We can’t talk about what really happened because it had more to do with the infilration of the soviet gov’t by our cia, and by the likes of Armand Hammer who was relentless in bringing america goods to the soviet union throughout the cold war. But Armand Hammer was treated was suspicion by Reagan because no one trusted that he could negotiate consistent deals with “bad” people that actually benefitted himself, the nation represented by the “bad guy” and the united states. He was consistent in meeting this criteria and the Reagan administration in it’s evil vs good world view could NOT accept that such negotiations were possible.
It makes me sick. The truth about violence is still untold and the dems have accepted the lie as truth. And that means we are sunk.
Great idea Scarecrow, let’s slip you into the West Wing with a writing gig & see if you can infiltrate & manipulate the Bush talking points.
perris @ 36
We can only hope that Coulter gets herself tangled up in Rove’s suspenders as she does so….
perris @ 22
The good fairies behind the scene have been scrambling to fix my typos all morning, but I am too quick for the lot of them. Need to go food some breakfast.
The next thread is ready; bring your coffee.
SanderO…I totally agree.. Einstein’s quote fits here about preparing for war and peace at the same time.
I work in a women’s clinic whose mission is to empower women and end racism. We used to call the mens groups “batterers groups”. (these were pyscho educational groups for violent men.) No empirical data supported that the groups did anything but provide a punishment. These groups used to be highly confrontational.
Today we call our groups “men’s nonviolence group”. It seems like these are simple changes and I know that there is much to be said about the silliness of being politically correct but there is a self fulfilling prophecy in the words we choose. Can the restraints of language be broken…Sure?? It’s not black and white. But language is an important window into what we really believe and where we are really going.
Thankfully, my organization now treats men who are violent as men with the capacity for nonviolence. We are keeping outcomes and we will see if teaching them skills to have healthy intimate relationships makes a difference in the behavior. But we were sure that using power and control (calling them names…like batterer) to fight power and control was not be successful in changing attitudes and behaviors.
Love is not a bad word…but republicans can almost convince us that it is.
Bloix @ 20
imo, that’s not the issue. the issues are 1) is it helpful? and 2) is it true?
scarecrow has already answered #1 – with “no”.
as for #2, the only definations of “terrorist organization” i’ve seen would, if applied with intellectual honesty, have to include my own government and the government of israel. that’s why it seems to me that the term is being used not to illuminate, but to demagogue.
selise @ 44
Thank you, selise; well said.
great post scarecrow. between you and glenn (who has recently taken on the “foreign policy establishment”), i occasionally have a glimmer of hope.
just a couple of comments.
1) instead of “hardcore” Israelis, how about “hard right” Israelis? it is probably more accurate and less likely to push the buttons of the hardcore israelis who are not hard right war mongers.
2) while the Senate rightly got some grief over their Lieberman’s resolution (S.Amdt.2073), the House’s actions also deserve comment on their equally irresponsible H.Con.R.21.
It’s time that every decent self-respecting American stand up and declare themselves unalloyed terrorists. We must take a stand with the terrorists and make plain to George and Dick we’re not going to take it anymore.
So, I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window, open it, and stick your head out and yell, I’m a terrorist George and Dick, and I’m not going to take it anymore!
alank @ 47
i’d rather comdemn all terrorism (theirs and ours).
If parts of the Iranian Army is declared to be a Terrorist organisation…. It will basically end debate of the difference between Terrorism and State Terrorism. From here on out it dont mattersince private persons and states will be declared Terrorists.
oh what a great mystery! It’s almost as if there was a powerful Lobby which could coerce and maintain such consensus, despite the harm to this country’s national interests.
maybe what the congresscritters have learned is that it is actually more ‘dangerous’ to go against the wishes of this hypothetical Lobby, agent of a foreign power, maybe on trial for espionage, than to heed the wishes of their constituents.
Sorry, American people! maybe if you had a new political party that wasn’t pwned so badly the ruling duopoly would pay a little more attention, but oh well, you don’t.
Via Asian Times Online:
selise @ 46
I agree with the hard right rather than hard core Israeli part. Selise, did you see this article Israeli soldiers express pain of war. ? Yet another sad indictment of how war demoralizes and criminalizes young men and women.
Bombs away!!!
Impeachment is the only way to slow these criminals down. Bush and Cheney are clinically insane!!! Congress is clinically cowardly. The military is clinically dead. The American people are clinically horrified.
If impeachment proceedings do not start THIS YEAR, Bush and Cheney will start the entire planet on fire just to watch it burn.
Paging Dr. Strangelove.
mui @ 52
thank you for the link. i hadn’t seen it… as bad as the situtation is, i am inspired by the work of Breaking the Silence (and other israelis who work for the universality of human rights).
selise @ 54
I know so little of the situation. Hence, fencesitter, but this is the first time I heard of Breaking the Silence.
Breaking the Silence (English Language version)
Um, Scarecrow:
You’re 98% right about everything, as usual, but why weaken your otherwise strong arguments by starting out with the insinuation that Hezbullah is not a terrorist organization? At best that makes you ignorant. At worst, it opens you up to charges of being knee-jerk anti-Israel. I don’t follow your writing enough to know which it is, but given that Hizbullah/Israel/Lebanon are at best tangentially related to your point, why lead with that?
“You would think by now that the Democratic Congress would have learned how dangerous it is to give the Bush/Cheney Administration any further discretion or excuse for exacerbating their already belligerent policies in the Middle East. But Congress never seems to get it.”
So you would think…
This is scary.
http://www.attytood.com/2007/0…..eally.html
–Rick Taylor
Declaring a significant portion of the armed forces of a state as a “terrorist organization” is tantamount to a declaration that that state is a terrorist organization. It is a half-step away from a declaration of war.
The Iranian Revolutionary Guard is paid for by the state, it is controlled by the state, all its assets are the state’s and all its missions are the state’s. Any change in its leadership, procedures, funding or mission is controlled by the state.
Imagine with even one degree of separation – ie, those directly or indirectly supporting a “terrorist organization” or directly or indirectly undermining our “war effort” in Iraq – what would be dragged into Mr. Bush’s new net: the spies, the banks, the transport companies, the caterers, weapons manufacturers, and, of course, the state itself.
Among Iran’s assets outside the country are enormous financial investments and oil stocks. This declaration, if enforceable outside the US, could lead to the US laying claim to all of them.
No state would allow that, of course, or so Mr. Cheney hopes. The needlessly and overtly incendiary move is designed to provoke a violent reaction from the Iranians. So violent or ill-thought out that it would allow Dick Cheney to go to war with other people’s children and money.
Cheney hopes that result is a predictable as his own were Russia, the EU and China to condemn as “terrorist organizations” his Army or Special Forces, or his hundred eighty thousand odd mercenaries and contractors in Iraq. Imagine the property that could be seized, the exposure of secrets, and the public war crimes trials.
Cheney knows he would do anything to avoid that. He hopes his Iranian counterparts are as blind to all recourse but war as he is. This is a provocative, unmistakable prelude to war. Who says August is recess time in Washington?
Richmond @ 16
The terms of that were really resolved long ago. We have no legal authority to be in Iraq.
Aside from the basis based on Bush lies there never really was any legal authority for going there.
Senate Hearing –
Byrd: What is our authority for being in Iraq?
Gates: I don’t know.
What’s all the more amazing perhaps is that Bush, Cheney and crew do all this awful stuff and don’t seem to realize WE see them doing it and we know what they’re up to.
Don’t they realize they can’t just break into a jewelry store in broad daylight with people watching and steal the goods without everybody knowing they’re the thieves? They wear masks, but then pull them off every now and then to look into the security cameras. How exactly do they expect to provoke a war with Iran this obviously without it backfiring on them.
It’s the absurdity of it all, the surrealistic quality, which just smacks ya up side the head and makes you wanna scream.
They’re either the lousiest criminals in history or they’ve got some kinda ‘get out of jail’ card trick that we don’t know about.
earlofhuntingdon @ 60
The ChimpCo cabal acts like its the only player in the region or so they would like the public to believe. And apparently Iran feels itself pretty cooperative, and points fingers at Saudi Arabia. Iran is worried that Russia has become a US partner. Strange in light of SCO.Russia and China, Iran and Central Asia. If anything, I would think China & Russia would want to stick to a program of sending strong signals to the US. But alliances are always pretty tricky. (Russia has a reputation among the Chinese as a regional backstabber.)
A well presented point of view with the choice of words used and the thoughts expressed very much on point.
Thank you Scarecrow for this short yet effective overview of what lies at the core of current American/Israeli credibility,integrity and legitimacy shortfalls in the ME.
Hezbollah in Lebanon is viewed by many in Lebanon not to be a force of terror but rather as the most viable group doing the day to day stuff of helping many Lebanese who were directly affected by the 2006 summer attack from Israel.
Hamas is the direct outgrowth from the ongoing and plain to see hopelessly corrupted Fatah organization in Arab Palestinian affairs. After having won through a vetted democratic election the support of enough Arab Palestinians to attain political decision make power Hamas was branded by the Israelis and the Americans as a pariah and fully attacked and discredited by all means and tactics.
So the Arab Palestinians now have been once more threatened and then debased via Israeli state terrorism and American state terrorism.
Dick Cheney has been known to base his being in power with the claim that winning is fifty percent plus one percent more(51%)which would seem to empower him to do what he does plainly enough.
The word hypocrisy is exhausted by the Americans and the Israelis in the ME anymore.
As for those who would parse which Americans or Israelis are in fact embracing,empowering or doing the dirty deeds of America or Israel in the ME?
Just this.
For the victims of state terror whether it comes from the sky,tanks,artillery or close in troop deployment death is a one time event. For the families and loved ones of those killed the consideration of parsing whether it was certain Americans or Israelis is not how those deaths and inflicted suffering are very likely rationalized or remembered.
Death was brought on or near by Americans or Israelis. Those who fly and come under an American or Israeli flag.
And that is how all Americans and Israelis need to see the killing which takes place under the flags of America or Israel.
In Arab Palestine.Lebanon.Iraq.
The Israelis and Americans are caught up in a crime spree in the ME that plainly is killing,maiming and causing millions of innocents to suffer.
This is the record of fact.
The consequence of being seen as the agents of death and suffering then is rightfully placed on America and Israel for that crime spree.
Truth of the matter is the Americans and the Israelis have not a valid claim to being the good guys in the ME these days.
The act of going around the ME and branding who is involved in terrorism or a terrorist group is some kind of twisted,upside down craziness.
Akin to Al Capone stating he stood for law and order and wanted to point out who he thought were the crooks and where to find them.
The Americans and Israelis are doing just this in the ME. Over and over. It is crazy.
The Israelis are as much into terror as any in the ME.
Israeli hypocrisy astounds.
As for the Americans? The hypocrisy they practice daily in the ME is only exceeded by the levels of self deceit and denial they blind themselves with and hide behind shamelessly.
The Arabs are surely not either blameless,without fault or innocent in ME affairs and one could easily expand on that thought.
The greater point made here is however is that Israel and America are doing themselves no favors or long good trying to get where they want by doing or being what they are today in the ME.
What they do is not what good guys do.
Doing what the Americans and Israelis do and then turning around and claiming to be the good guys is without credibility.
It surely qualifies as rank hypocrisy.
How can such conduct lead to any winning of anything anywhere in the ME?
It can not. Will not. It opens and leads to a debacle. And now has.
Lebanon,Arab Palestine and Iraq given as examples.
It appears Iran may become an example.
What is happening in the ME will likely become much worse still should Iran be attacked, invaded and thrown into chaos/mayhem.
Someone must speak out against it. Speak against it more. Speak against it more still.
Again…Scarecrow. Thank You.
It seems to me that the Democrat leadership in congress is working overtime to make sure that we don’t win back the White House in ‘08. Their level of incompetence is mind boggling.