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		<title>By: Judy Reuter</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/15/fdl-demands-apology-calls-on-collins-to-fire-dutson/#comment-899995</link>
		<dc:creator>Judy Reuter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;dmac&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have known about FDL for a couple years. I read several of them, it is both addicting and time consuming. One thing that I really like about the blogs is the things I learn. In some areas, I don’t know more than I know. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In another way,these are kind of like an extended family, especially this one. “Bring the coffee…” I think that is one of the things that has hurt this country, is the loss of the extended family, the way it was in the ’50s. Plus a whole lot of other things too.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t know this, but I thought that FDL was a MN blog. Maybe there are a lot of MN people on here. When the bridge went down, there were a lot of posts that sounded like they were from Mpls.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dmac</p>
<p>I have known about FDL for a couple years. I read several of them, it is both addicting and time consuming. One thing that I really like about the blogs is the things I learn. In some areas, I don’t know more than I know. </p>
<p>In another way,these are kind of like an extended family, especially this one. “Bring the coffee…” I think that is one of the things that has hurt this country, is the loss of the extended family, the way it was in the ’50s. Plus a whole lot of other things too.</p>
<p>I don’t know this, but I thought that FDL was a MN blog. Maybe there are a lot of MN people on here. When the bridge went down, there were a lot of posts that sounded like they were from Mpls.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
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		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 09:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-898046&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Siun @ 244&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;cynic - hmmmm…. I’ll have to remember that idea! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Duston is being paid $25K  by Collins … we have the FEC filing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quarterly, or annually? And does this guy work for others?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-898046"><em>Siun @ 244</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>cynic &#8211; hmmmm…. I’ll have to remember that idea! </p>
<p>Duston is being paid $25K  by Collins … we have the FEC filing.</p>
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<p>Quarterly, or annually? And does this guy work for others?</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
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		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Collins’ myrmidon certainly missed the irony in calling FDL a radical “FemBlog” when they actually support a MALE candidate who has progressive and RATIONAL positions on a wide range of issues.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Perhaps Collins thinks that Women should simply vote for her because she has the appropriate genitalia and &lt;em&gt; cleavage &lt;/em&gt;?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe her view is that “Women’s rights” stops at the point when they criticize HER? Don’t DARE THINK! Don’t DARE “petition” one’s REPRESENTATIVES!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I suspect Suzie is in DEEP DOO-DOO (oh, there we go with the potty-mouth, sorry) in her internal polling. She sees her numbers in women voters going down toward those of Cheney and Bush…and has unwisely chosen this route to attempt to bolster them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe if she was a bit more concerned with her own positions regarding Iraq and our Constitutional Rights, than some “unimportant” blog…frequented by some sliver of Mainers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How strange that she and her staff even bothered…unless the reality was far different!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Collins’ myrmidon certainly missed the irony in calling FDL a radical “FemBlog” when they actually support a MALE candidate who has progressive and RATIONAL positions on a wide range of issues.</p>
<p>Perhaps Collins thinks that Women should simply vote for her because she has the appropriate genitalia and <em> cleavage </em>?</p>
<p>Maybe her view is that “Women’s rights” stops at the point when they criticize HER? Don’t DARE THINK! Don’t DARE “petition” one’s REPRESENTATIVES!</p>
<p>I suspect Suzie is in DEEP DOO-DOO (oh, there we go with the potty-mouth, sorry) in her internal polling. She sees her numbers in women voters going down toward those of Cheney and Bush…and has unwisely chosen this route to attempt to bolster them.</p>
<p>Maybe if she was a bit more concerned with her own positions regarding Iraq and our Constitutional Rights, than some “unimportant” blog…frequented by some sliver of Mainers.</p>
<p>How strange that she and her staff even bothered…unless the reality was far different!</p>
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		<title>By: mainefem</title>
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		<dc:creator>mainefem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My post on _BDN’s_ “portal” is awaiting moderator approval.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a&gt;Feel free to vote in their unscientific virtual “poll,” folks.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My post on _BDN’s_ “portal” is awaiting moderator approval.</p>
<p><a>Feel free to vote in their unscientific virtual “poll,” folks.</a></p>
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		<title>By: mainefem</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/15/fdl-demands-apology-calls-on-collins-to-fire-dutson/#comment-899071</link>
		<dc:creator>mainefem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 03:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/story.php?id=127427&amp;ac=PHedi&amp;com_full=1#begin&quot;&gt;Posted on _PPH_’s complicit “portal”, e.g., Carl Natale, &amp; Co.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks again!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/story.php?id=127427&amp;ac=PHedi&amp;com_full=1#begin">Posted on _PPH_’s complicit “portal”, e.g., Carl Natale, &amp; Co.</a></p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: Molly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Molly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 03:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I nearly fell out of my chair when this post was brought to my attention…I guess you all don’t find anything TRex-the-Train-Wreck writes to be at all offensive - despite the fact that he regularly and viciously attacks people on the basis of their looks, their weight and their gender.  Commenters left this place in droves over the summer and in the early fall - why?  Maybe it was the misogynistic and foul-mouthed posting - the kind that got people savaged and banned for objecting to it, and got the notice of other blogs.  I can’t be the only one who remembers Pach and Christy and Jane and Train Wreck piling on to defend it - and then fell all over themselves with blog-therapy sessions on the subject of civility.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jane’s always been defiantly in-your-face, and happily sent people packing because she wasn’t going to allow the “word police” to tell her how people could “talk” - which is her right as the blog owner - but if this isn’t the biggest case of the pot calling the kettle black, I don’t know what would be.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You reap what you sow - get over yourselves.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And thanks for the chuckle.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I nearly fell out of my chair when this post was brought to my attention…I guess you all don’t find anything TRex-the-Train-Wreck writes to be at all offensive &#8211; despite the fact that he regularly and viciously attacks people on the basis of their looks, their weight and their gender.  Commenters left this place in droves over the summer and in the early fall &#8211; why?  Maybe it was the misogynistic and foul-mouthed posting &#8211; the kind that got people savaged and banned for objecting to it, and got the notice of other blogs.  I can’t be the only one who remembers Pach and Christy and Jane and Train Wreck piling on to defend it &#8211; and then fell all over themselves with blog-therapy sessions on the subject of civility.</p>
<p>Jane’s always been defiantly in-your-face, and happily sent people packing because she wasn’t going to allow the “word police” to tell her how people could “talk” &#8211; which is her right as the blog owner &#8211; but if this isn’t the biggest case of the pot calling the kettle black, I don’t know what would be.</p>
<p>You reap what you sow &#8211; get over yourselves.</p>
<p>And thanks for the chuckle.</p>
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		<title>By: BAC</title>
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		<dc:creator>BAC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 03:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;“I’m deeply offended that Senator Collins would speak about professional women in such a degrading and offensive manner,” said Hamsher.”&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah … kind of like telling another woman blogger, “I change my oil, but …”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BAC&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“I’m deeply offended that Senator Collins would speak about professional women in such a degrading and offensive manner,” said Hamsher.”</i></p>
<p>Yeah … kind of like telling another woman blogger, “I change my oil, but …”</p>
<p>BAC</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-898043&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;IrishJim @ 241&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-897997&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;OldCoastie @ 197&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
…&lt;br /&gt;
just what are those 71 billion bucks going to? doesn’t that seem like an awful lot of money?&lt;br /&gt;
…
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have the same concerns. Why is all this liquidity suddenly needed? …
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Something like 60 mortgage companies have gone bankrupt in the last few years and recently Countrywide (country’s largest mortgage firm), American Home Mortgages (IIRC) and Washington Mutual (I think) announced big problems. They’re all stuck with underperforming mortgages.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A LOT of people have lost their homes, but the MSM has somehow failed to make that point to the public.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I guess it was the Iraq Occupation which got all the attention.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-898043"><em>IrishJim @ 241</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-897997"><em>OldCoastie @ 197</em></a></p>
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…<br />
just what are those 71 billion bucks going to? doesn’t that seem like an awful lot of money?<br />
…
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<p>I have the same concerns. Why is all this liquidity suddenly needed? …
</p>
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<p>Something like 60 mortgage companies have gone bankrupt in the last few years and recently Countrywide (country’s largest mortgage firm), American Home Mortgages (IIRC) and Washington Mutual (I think) announced big problems. They’re all stuck with underperforming mortgages.</p>
<p>A LOT of people have lost their homes, but the MSM has somehow failed to make that point to the public.</p>
<p>I guess it was the Iraq Occupation which got all the attention.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 01:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-897997&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;OldCoastie @ 197&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;completely OT - by my calculation, the Fed has pumped 71 billion dollars into &lt;a href=&quot;http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Federal_Reserve_pumps_seven_billion_08152007.html&quot;&gt;the market&lt;/a&gt; in the last 7 days….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;just what are those 71 billion bucks going to? doesn’t that seem like an awful lot of money?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;no financial whiz here…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is a lot because the problem is big. They’re loaning it short-term I guess to let businesses handle a liquidity problem.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The big question is whether they can get their natural cash flow back or somehow spread out their debt payments so they don’t go belly-up. If they can’t get their house in order, then they’ve got big problems.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Liquidity problems can be either temporary or permanent — we’ll know soon which they’re facing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-897997"><em>OldCoastie @ 197</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>completely OT &#8211; by my calculation, the Fed has pumped 71 billion dollars into <a href="http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Federal_Reserve_pumps_seven_billion_08152007.html">the market</a> in the last 7 days….</p>
<p>just what are those 71 billion bucks going to? doesn’t that seem like an awful lot of money?</p>
<p>no financial whiz here…</p>
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<p>It is a lot because the problem is big. They’re loaning it short-term I guess to let businesses handle a liquidity problem.</p>
<p>The big question is whether they can get their natural cash flow back or somehow spread out their debt payments so they don’t go belly-up. If they can’t get their house in order, then they’ve got big problems.</p>
<p>Liquidity problems can be either temporary or permanent — we’ll know soon which they’re facing.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 01:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-897970&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;rwcole @ 172&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;She’s a dirty fuckin fem sen!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now now, let’s be civil.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Besides, we save that kind of foul-mouthed rhetoric for our friends. Heh.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-897970"><em>rwcole @ 172</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>She’s a dirty fuckin fem sen!!</p>
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<p>Now now, let’s be civil.</p>
<p>Besides, we save that kind of foul-mouthed rhetoric for our friends. Heh.</p>
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