You know, if you watch Bill Kristol’s sit-down with Jon Stewart from last night’s “Daily Show”, it is genuinely tempting to want to believe that maybe things are getting better in Iraq. He seems so calm and reasonable, so “serious”.
It kind of makes me wish that I was as credulous and easily gulled as the average Pox News viewer. Then I could actually believe in Kristol’s vision of an Iraq where oodles of ponies and rainbows are just around the corner, and I could be cheerfully unmoved by today’s ugly facts.
At least 175 people have been killed in a series of suicide bomb attacks in northern Iraq, Iraq’s military says.
The blasts apparently targeted a Kurdish religious minority, the Yazidi sect, near Mosul. At least four blasts hit areas which house the community.
A Mosul police source told the BBC that there had been “large loss of life”.
In one of the worst single atrocities in the four-year-old war at least another 200 people were wounded in the bombings in separate areas of the town of Kahtaniya, west of Mosul, Iraqi army Captain Mohammad al-Jaad said.
The attacks on the Yazidi community occurred about 8pm local time leaving whole apartment buildings destroyed and several shops nearby ablaze.
(…)
The attack was the deadliest in Iraq since 215 people were killed in November when mortar rounds and five car bombs killed 215 people in the Shiite neighborhood of Sadr City.
(…)
The huge loss of life came on the same day as dozens of uniformed gunmen in 17 official vehicles stormed an Oil Ministry compound in Baghdad and abducted a deputy oil minister and four other officials.
A total of nine US military deaths were also announced after a transport helicopter crashed near an air base west of Baghdad, killing five troopers. The CH-47 Chinook helicopter had been conducting a routine post-maintenance test flight when it went down near Taqaddum air base. Four other soldiers were reported killed in separate attacks.
But here’s Charles Krauthammer from just a few weeks ago:
By the day, the debate at home about Iraq becomes increasingly disconnected from the realities of the actual war on the ground. The Democrats in Congress are so consumed with negotiating among their factions the most clever linguistic device to legislatively ensure the failure of the administration’s current military strategy—while not appearing to do so—that they speak almost not at all about the first visible results of that strategy.
And preliminary results are visible. The landscape is shifting in the two fronts of the current troop surge: Anbar province and Baghdad.
Yeah, except for the massive car-bombs and scores of dead.
Michael Yon, yesterday:
When I wrote the op-ed piece, “I Have Seen the Horror,” published August 3rd in the New York Daily News, I cited three areas that had experienced dramatic change in 2007—change that convinces me the “surge” is working:
1. Iraqis are uniting across sectarian lines to drive al Qaeda in all its disguises out of Iraq, and they are empowered by the success they are having, each one creating a ripple effect of active citizenship.
2. The Iraqi Army is much more capable now than they were in 2005. They are not ready to go it alone, but if we keep working, that day will come soon.
3. General Petraeus is running the show. Petraeus may well prove to be to counterinsurgency warfare what Patton was to tank battles with Rommel, or what Churchill was to the Nazis.
Watching these chucklefucks race around from “Hardline” to “Hannity and Colmes” to “Late Edition With Wolf Blitzer” and back again insisting that the world is flat and that the sun revolves around it, well, it must be kind of like having kids that are about eight or nine years old and are right on the verge of finding out the truth about Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy.
Except when you try to gently break it to these kids that their parents have been leaving the toys under the tree, they insist that you killed Santa Claus and it’s all your fault for not believing. And you’re a bad, bad person who hates America, er, Christmas.
Conservatives, you can clap your hands until your palms bleed and you can scream, “I do believe in fairies, I do, I do, I do!” until you go hoarse, but frankly, the paramedics have been doing chest compressions and mouth-to-mouth for twenty minutes, now, and they’re not getting a pulse. I think it’s pretty clear to everyone but y’all that Tinkerbell is dead. Way dead. All kinds of pushin’ up daisies.
But good luck, I guess. It’s going to suck when you finally figure out the truth. I’ll see if we can arrange to send some grief counselors over to the AEI and the offices of the Weekly Standard. I suspect you’re going to need a whole crowd of them.
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hey TRex!
zed..dos
ah well! evenin’, TRex!
FMF!!
See!
One of these days, Lou, one of these days…
:)
Out of Iraq, Now!!! Hey, TRex!!!
Fuck ‘em. Fuck ‘em all.
Good evening dear friends.
Snack ‘n’ go.
Back to work, 6 hours tomorrow. Only 6 more than I am used to!
I’ll have the laptop with me and hope to be able to check in with you from time to time.
A manly post, TRex.
wangdangdoodle @ 5
hehehe ;-)
Don’t worry… They are just a bunch of dead enders…
Evenin’, everybody…
TexBetsy @ 8
Hey! That’s what I had for dinner!
I’m absolutely agog at those three listed items, particularly Petraeus’ sainthood…it’s just not going to be pretty when it comes down for them is it?
wangdangdoodle @ 13
That’s what they feed us on registration days.
Trex!
Hey, we have almost broken 4,000 dead. Bush is doing well and Karl is pleased with himself. What more could we want? Eggs in our beer?
N=1 @ 9
Damn straight.
*spits into the fireplace*
Now, who took my last Tab Energy Drink, dammit?
Evening all. How’s things here at the “foul mouthed fem-blog”? Think that’s the first time in more than 30 years anyone has implied I was effeminate (earrings not withstanding).
boing – inward two and a half somersault, tuck position, no splash
g’evening everyone
Biiig disconnect from reality going on amongst the likes of Kristol, Krauthammer, etc.
TRex @ 17
Hm, wait. Aren’t you supposed to throw the glass into the fireplace?
Dammit, I can never keep all this straight.
DrDick @ 18
Fucking great!
Suzanne @ 19
Bon Soir, Ma Cheri!!!
Glistening with ectoplasmic protocol soap, al the spook floats gracefully into a hammock between the two old sequoias at the edge of the fishing dock. He unfurls a banner reading “Tai Tai angzang zui funu zuojia” in flawless mandarin caligraphy and contentedly watches it float in the evening breeze…
evening, all!
TexBetsy @ 8
You have my sympathy. I am back to work in 2 weeks. I already am putting in several hours a day getting ready for classes.
LoudounLib @ 20
Shut.
Up.
But they seem so confident and sure of themselves!
i keep thinking that there’s a special place in hell reserved for billy kristol, but then i realize actually, no, there are so many of his type of lying, clubby sociopaths running around washington and its media outlets that the section of hell he’ll occupy won’t be special at all.
I do have to chuckle at the “Mission Accomplished”, “this is the last combat operation” pro-surge crowd.
And on the local news just now they’re talking about two local soldiers who died over the weekend. One never got to meet his daughter, who was born in March.
Suzanne @ 19
Simple, elegant, unpretentious.
Evening Suzanne!
Suz!!
LoudounLib @ 20
Have they been right about a thang…?!!! ;-)
Suzanne @ 19
Evening!
Me, I could only hope to stick it, but maybe I’ll see the tiniest splash from you some day ;-)
LoudounLib @ 20
I really think they are in a delusional psychotic fugue. That is the only thing that would make since of what they have been saying.
Suzanne @ 19
nice one, Suz!
dmg @ 27
But he is special – I have never seen anyone with such a weird look in their eyes. He’s just plain spooky.
althespook @ 24
Something tells me not to bother running that through Babel Fish.
I’ve been at work all this time, so no stress for me that classes are starting. Well, except the beastly traffic, the sorostitutes having “Rush Week”, having to wait in line at the grocery store again, and all the shitty drivers with their SUV’s they got for graduation.
Ah, life in a college town.
Iran propaganda screaming……….
Is it the “recess war”?????? :}
Suzanne @ 19
:))
I came early ;)
Frankly, the rabid right wing still hasn’t figured out the truth about Vietnam. I don’t expect them to even be scratching their heads about Iraq for another forty or fifty years….
PB (peanut butter) @ 33
i splashed big time doing the reverse version of this dive instead of inward.
I’ve said some stupid and offensive things at this fem blog, and now I know why I’ve not been kicked off.
I’m a token male.
I love it.
hey, me3, nice to see ya while the sun is almost still shining :)
montag @ 41
You’d think they could do that shit with our soldiers safe at home, though.
wangdangdoodle @ 37
Actually you can’t. I have to type in the english one word at a time to get simplified chinese ideographs and then run them through the graph to pinyin (romanized mandarin) translator from wikipedia. I have no idea how to do it backwards.
The quote is “Great Great Foul Mouth Woman Writer”. Ancient chinese doesn’t have a word for
“blog”. And Great Great is a superlative like “really REALLY great”.
Suzanne @ 19
Aren’t’ the judges supposed to penalize a boing on back and inward dives? I always thought that the feet had to be still.
Jonathan @ 43
Yeah, gotta keep up our quotas.
The Supreme Court is trying to fix that, though. And then you’re toast, Jonathan.
TRex @ 38
Try combining that delight with being a summer time tourist destination. Only times it is sane around here is Winter break and a couple of weeks in May. Then the tourists come with their Winnebagos and 300 squalling brats, with no idea of where they are going, what they are doing, or who they are.
montag @ 41
Isn’t that the truth…stuck on Vietnam, on Nixon, on Reagan, and now on Iraq. I’d almost feel sorry for them. ALMOST. If they didn’t go about freaking ruining my country while they worked through their neuroses…
burnspbesq @ 47
my feet were still – its just the noise the board makes as i leap up and off it (from the knees)
TRex @ 17
You’re such a man, where’s your PBR belly and Falcons replica jersey? And do you have a Glock in the glove compartment of your F-150?
Anybody notice the surge on Wall Street lately?
Just asking.
althespook @ 46
And there’s the FDL byline. Happy to see your ectoplasmic presence, Alfred – but doesn’t the hammock string make a thousand cuts in your presence? Ouch.
burnspbesq @ 52
Don’t forget the gun rack in the back window of said F-150…
burnspbesq @ 52
Glock? That’s a sissy’s gun. Us MANLY men use Smith and Wesson. That’s cause we can clean them with Wesson Oil, made by the same company, y’see…
althespook @ 46
Al. I really appreciate you taking the fucking time.
~wangdangdoodle, foul mouthed woman
TRex @ 45
Then they would have no surrogates through which to idolize war, eh?
Without soldiers fighting in far-off lands, how can they live vicariously through them?
N=1 @ 53
I see someone else knows their chinese history. FYI, I am resting contentedly in the CLOTH portion of the hammock.
And I’ve bribed the executioner to use a squealbaby anyways…
Hi honeys I’m home!
LoudounLib @ 54
I used to had one of those, except it was a Chevy Silverado. Even had a couple of guns to put in it (got rid of them when I moved to Chicago – not much hunting in the city, they won’t let you shoot the squirrels).
Hiya Snarky!!
Suzanne @ 51
You’re working off the board?????
Jeez, all this time I thought you were doing platform.
wangdangdoodle @ 62
Hiya doodley!
I got your Glock right here in my pants, mister.
*BUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRP!!!*
DrDick @ 60
That would be a tad out of place in the city ;-)
Twain @ 36
granted, he’s a scary and unappealing dude. but they all are.
PLovering @ 53
More like the tide going out if you ask me.
evenin’ Cassie :-)
LoudounLib @ 55
And the “Charlton Heston is my President” bumper sticker.
TRex @ 64
Oh, surely you jest – it’s BRAAAAAP – burps are fer sissies.
wangdangdoodle @ 57
I may not be a fem blogger but I can say “you” with the best of them. (yes that is the pinyin for “fuck”).
Hiya LL
Every now and then, I like to hear some Bob…!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaEgDFr-RJE
No. Wait a minute, Suz. You lept up from your knees?
I want video!
burnspbesq @ 70
*slaps forehead* how could I have forgotten that?
Bill Kristol and his ilk only count bloodshed as a tragedy if it is one of them. It is part of NeoCon doctrine that it’s OK for people to get killed and maimed because they are just part of the masses and you know, the masses are expendable.
His pale focus-less watery eyes spook the hell out of me. I looked at him in that clip and he treated every death and maimed person as a joke. The guy is an armchair psychopath.
TRex @ 65
Was that a Vick replica jersey I saw on ya…??? ;-)
CTuttle @ 74
Irie :-)
Hooray for the right-wingers! I’ve been accused of being feminine for the first time in 24 years! Usually I get accused of being, um, manly-ish.
snark
OOH!! OOH!!
A DOUBLE SUPER SECRET FDL SOURCE HAS TOLD ME THE REAL REASON KARL ROVE HAS RESIGNED!!
Do you guys want to know why?
Can you handle the truth?
Hi Suz, hi everyone!
I hope I can stay for a bit tonight. Boy have I missed Late Nights with Trex and you all.
Booby Kristol is lookin’ more and more like George Kostanza’s dad. In a man bra.
SnarKassandra @ 60
Hey, cassie! Bunch of “foul-mouthed fem-bloggers” here. Sure you wanna be in the kind of crowd? (They’re already plotting to ditch us token males as soon as SCOTUS lets them…)
althespook @ 55
Personally, I favor the Ruger .41 magnum.
oh pleeeeeze tell us, TRex!
TRex @ 82
Whhhhhhaaaatttt????????????
TRex @ 48
Explains why i’m here too, with my short, short hair & nice set of socket wrenches, everyone thinks i’m a dyke. Well, i consider it a compliment, so there.
Shadowstalker @ 79
When I start seeing some right-wingers sign up to go get shot in Iraq, I’ll start giving a damn what they want to believe about my gender.
Oh hell, TRex, even the eight-year-old, while still believing in Santa and Easter Bunny, knew that Iraq was an effed up mess borne of a lie.
He told me after attending his first Democratic Party meeting, “Mom, I’m going to run for president; I KNOW I can do better than George Bush NOW.”
Bless his sweet face, he made me cry.
The Real Reason:
According to his Chinese manufacturers he’s covered in lead paint and had to be recalled.
althespook @ 72
Had to stop and look that one up…
pinyin
TRex @ 81
Let me guess. KKKarl has been diagnosed with anal herpes.
Karl’s pregnant…I knew it…he had the glow…
TRex @ 82
Cause the BBQ is better here in TX?
TRex @ 81
God damn, yes.
DrDick @ 85
I have a Ruger and a Glock both, plus a custom-made buffalo gun I picked up out in Montana in the late 1960’s. I think it’s a .50 calibre, you have to make the bullets yourself and I’ve never found the time…
althespook @ 84
I thought Scotus was skewed in favor of us, Al…??? ;-)
most clever linguistic device?
Krauthammer. Who’d a thunk he was such a cunning linguist?
LoudounLib @ 76
When I lived in NoVa, I never ever shopped at Fair Oaks. It was just too creepy, with NRA HQ looming behind it like Dracula’s castle.
TRex @ 90
I always knew he was toxic.
SnarKassandra @ 60
Hey Cassie!
Hiya MP and Alfred
QuakerGirl @ 76
Curious. What do you think drives Bill Kristol?
An honest (from his standpoint) view of the world?
A view that is corrupt in some way?
Some other reason?
SnarKassandra @ 59
Evening, Cassie. How’s life in your part of the world? Completely smoked out here (stage 1 air quality alert today). Mostly imported smoke from Idaho (along with a ton of ash it is leaving all over everything). However, my worst fears were realized today when a major fire broke out just west of town. We are now officially surrounded and may not have another smoke free day until late September.
burnspbesq @ 100
That is sort of a menacing presence there!
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 88
I have a nice set of socket wenches, does that count?
DrDick @ 105
We had smoke for a few years because of fires in Mexico. Now we just have “ozone action days” when you can ride the bus for free.
LoudounLib @ 65
Kind of hard on a country boy. I am right partial to fried squirrel and squirrel soup.
Well, the Preznit said the summer was going to be bad. I don’t know what you all are complaining about. Can’t you just wait until General Betrayus reports in September, the third anniversary of his pre-election Op-Ed in the Washington Post?
This while the General was misplacing 190,000-plus weapons.
THREE YEARS AGO he wrote this, and got himself another star, and command of the theatre, for his efforts.
Here is an original foul-mouthed woman, and I bet she was proud of it. Catherine Leroy link
Jonathan @ 104
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
CTuttle @ 98
No, no they’re shutting down affirmative action and quotas. When that happens, Jane is gonna boot all us manly men off and make us start our own blog, Testosterone In The Morning or something like that….TRex said so, look back and check (innocent look).
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 87
Always liked a gal with her own tools. :)
TRex @ 81
OOO. OOO. Do tell.
SnarKassandra @ 59
Hi SnarK! Be careful, we all found out we’re a bunch a foul-mouthed femiNatzis here, ya might get corrupted :-)
TeddySF: Gen Betrayus. What a perfect name for that tool.
Teddy, if we don’t get a Dem in the WH in ‘08 I bet Betrayus will end up to be a 5 star…
*grins*
Foul mouthed woman? You know, whoever said that is lucky he never met my mom and grandma. Two foul mouthed, proud canadian women. Housewives both, but it doesnt’ mean you could run roughshod on ‘em. If i could get ‘em online i’d bet they’d love this place. Mom doesn’t do a lot of browsing, but she can navigate online otherwise. Neither of us can convince Gramma to get online though. I wish she would.
TRex @ 90
Surprised he made it out of China to begin with; that’s one helluva lot of white paint on that beached whale, and even the Chinese would have to know we’d find it objectionable.
Not to mention the stench.
Jonathan @ 104
Just another junja working out his daddy’s issues?
montag @ 114
Mr. Doodle always knows what I want. He gave me a table saw for xmas and a router for my bday.
Jonathan @ 104
i’m not quite sure why he swings the way he does, other than the money’s better that way.
but one thing i am absolutely sure of is that he does not believe the crap he spews forth for t he world to digest. the man is the very definition of intellectual dishonesty.
althespook @ 113
Wha… They wouldn’t dare!!! Would they…???
bonkers @ 117
not mine; can’t recall where I first saw it. good though.
QuakerGirl @ 77
I have to agree, trotting them out at this point in time only shines the spotlight on their lies and deceptions. I think the polls are correct that support for Iraq is 35% or less, with Bush approval around 25-30%… It hardly matters what Kristol says, a large majority don’t believe him.
The tide is turning on these guys and they are just now starting to realize it and what it means. The trust they have lost with America is not resulting in a simple switch in political leanings on an issue… It’s a basic mistrust of conservatism, and it’s gonna stick like glue for a long time… The cons lost a whole generation of voters, plus the hispanic vote… Effects that will last many years.
“3. General Petraeus is running the show. Petraeus may well prove to be to counterinsurgency warfare what Patton was to tank battles with Rommel, or what Churchill was to the Nazis.”
Yeah, all those famous tank battles between the Desert Fox and Patton, I mean hell, they went at it tooth and nail, except of course, there were never any major tank battles waged between the forces commanded by the two men, but fuck it, to this twiddledick along with the cheerleaders who fight the current war from their arm chairs, what the hell do facts matter?]
And why the hell do we westerners always turn to Churchillian references when discussing WW2? The goddamned Russians won the war in Europe because Hitler was a drug-addled megolamaniac and decided he could win where no other could.
But the “greatest generation” did it all by themselves.
One other thing, for all of the heat General Petraeus takes from those who opposed this clusterfuck from day one, I’ll argue this: It’s Bush’s fault, not the general, whom I happen to have a great deal of respect for, and believe it or not, who stated long before he took command that to tell the truth to the American people meant asking them if they were ready fr at least 15 years of occupation and tens of thousands of casualties.
Those statements only appeared within the last six months, but as far as counter-insurgency goes, it’s something he’s worked on his whole career.
wangdangdoodle @ 122
I got a router for christmas last year but it was wireless and I don’t think cut into wood very well….(we are going to have to find some new names for things, the overlap is getting dangerous…)
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 115
Yeah, in no time at all, you’ll begin to cringe at the word, “homeland,” and pretty soon, you’ll be telling people that the “global war on terror” is a myth to make people fearful of everything, and then… oh, it’s so unspeakably awful…. You’ll, oh, my goodness, I can’t say it. I can’t. I just can’t. You’ll, oh, dear, you’ll, you’ll start thinking for yourself. *sob*
EPU’d from LooHoo’s comment:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..id=topnews
This is not good folks. One of these days, we are going to wake up to something really ominous…
TeddySanFran @ 125
Hooked on Phonics?
Oh, look, poor Mikey O’Hanlon responded to Glenn Greenwald in a radio interview today:
Wow, what a fatuous bitch he is!
Boy, these think tank types really, really don’t get it.
hey everybody please drop by the facebook fdl group to check out my post – I’m looking for suggestions from firepups.
Actually, TRex, thanks for writing this post. I wrote a post about the first Army nurse killed while on combat duty since Viet Nam, and she was just buried at Arlington on Friday. I was very pleased to see that the WaPo carried a decent story with a photograph of the acting Army Surgeon General (appointed in the aftermath of the Walter Reed scandal) Gale Pollock – herself a nurse – standing over Capt. Ortiz’ parents – she was listed as the person who presented the flags to her parents.
I haven’t been a military nurse, but I’ve spent years in trauma roms and in critical care, and let me tell you about blast injruies, amputated limbs, mangled bodies and death by violence – it isn’t romantic. It stinks – literally. The bowels become incontinent, flesh burns have an oily charred smell that you can’t get rid of, and vomitus, stool, and fear mingle into a nightmare aroma that once inhaled, will never be forgotten.
Death isn’t glamorous or pretty, or heroic. It’s the ultimate failure and humans’ inhumanity to humans.
Until all violence ceases, there is work to be done. Until all willfully inflicted suffering is halted, there is peace and goodwill to stand up to fear, violence and war-mongering.
Going back to lurking now because the wing nuts who have bedeviled me on my blog have followed me here, and today I discovered that a German hate site had translated their hate of me and posted it there, as well. Just too dayam creepy.
My email addy still works and it’s on the about page of my blog, if anyone needs anything that I can help with.
I appreciate being able to learn from the A team here – even if it just a foul-mouthed fem blog *g*. But lurk I must.
althespook @ 107
depends on what ya gotta wench, wenching a truck engine out for repair might be a tad bit too much
LoudounLib @ 118
Or maybe dancing with one. They seem to go for stunt casting.
WaPoO chatz tomorrow; questions accepted anytime!
“Blogger” Chris Cillizza at 11am eastern
Federal Diarist Stephen Barr at Noon Eastern
Dan Froomkin at 1pm eastern
montag @ 129
Who was it in the 60’s who said “Think for yourself and question authority”…Jerry Rubin? I think that applies very well here at FDL.
N=1 @ 134
Wow, I’m glad you are back!! Who are the people that are threatening you???
humboldtblue @ 127
at a desk, with a pen in his hand.
LS @ 130
Actually, this ties in perfectly with that weird “trash the fifth ammendment” thing they did earlier. By designating the RG a “terrorist entity”, that EO comes instantly into play since they have been carefully accused of supporting the insurgency in Iraq. This allows the Bushies go seize all sorts of bank accounts and other stuff connected to the RG operations. Since they do a lot of economic stuff just like the chinese military does, it will allow bush to put pressure on the Iranians without actually shooting at them. What he hopes to accomplish with this isn’t so clear. Seized assests go to the Treasury IIRC and so can’t be farmed out to bush loyalists. And while it will piss off the RG, they can reroute what is lost to europe or asia fairly easily.
althespook @ 128
’sokay, Al. My router is real slooooowwww at surfing the net!
TRex @ 132
Time to call the waaaaaahmbulance?
I’m back from my short sweet trip down the American River. I saw a blue heron, a green heron, two egrets and a beaver. Ok, it wasn’t a beaver. I thought it was a beaver but it turned out to be a stump. It was wonder out there tonight.
montag @ 129
Uh oh. Too late. Just wrote about thinking for myself about science (which is not my fav subj at school) instead of letting Texas tell me to believe in creationism. Sob away.
montag @ 129
And because boys your age are intimidated all to hell by smart young women, you’ll be hanging out with older boys, going to UT frat parties and nightclubs, drinking beer on a fake ID and staying out too late, and puking in the gutter on Sixth Street.
You’re going straight to hell, dontcha know.
montag @ 114
the ex claims he married me because i had a much more extensive tool collection than he did, never did find my 3 different sizes of vise-grip pliers after the divorce, dirty rotten $%^^##
It’s the little things that count in manliness.
Gently clue in the chicks that they are out of their frilly little depth and chuckle if they try to talk abouit ‘man’ things, which is war. If they try to talk abouit foreign policy or other countries and are not talking about war, pat them on the head and say ‘Aww, honey, don’t bother your pretty little head about that.’
If they talk about foreign policy and do talk about war, do the same thing. Unless they go total genocidal maniac, in which case, consult a man-expert and see if she really means it, and an exception should be made.
Mix all your food up on the plate, no matter what it is, and say “Waal, gee, it’s gonna get mixed up down thar anyhoo, har har.”
Always drink milk from the carton. Spill some.
Toilet seat up. (Unless you have a habit of sitting down on the rim in the middle of the night, especially in winter. Get some counseling about yoiur toilet habits in that case and get it fixed. Toilet seat should be up).
Burp.
Fart.
Scratch.
Yawn.
Shirk.
Pick.
Laze.
Order.
Follow the leader of the pack. This is important. Dogs and wolves are man animaals. Watch them carefully and follow their wisdom. This includes ass sniffing. If you don’t know how to sniff ass in polite symbolic way among humans, get my new bestseller at manly news stands everywhere. Lady dogs sniff ass too (I said they were man animals, didn’t I) But don’t let any wimmin kin do it, no matter how manly you are making your family.
Find your inner strawboss.
Raise your leg to pee. At least in spirit. My book on how to do that will be coming out soon.
Be sure people understand the philosophy deep wisdom and foundational logic of neo-retro man life: Do it, or can o’ whoop ass.
wangdangdoodle @ 122
you got a keeper!
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 135
I based that on an old Reader’s Digest joke I read in a doctor’s office far too many years ago about a New England rock farmer who put an ad in his local paper to sell a “truck with a wench”. He posted another ad the next week saying “I meant a truck with WINCH. Stop bothering my hired girl.” The final weekend he took out an ad reading “My hired girl is pregnant and my wife has run off and I have busted the damm WINCH and a moving to Manchester.”
TRex @ 132
As if any of us believe O’Hanlon, reporting only on that his minders allowed him to see in Iraq, deserves ANY readership for his asinine works offered up as journalism.
LoudounLib @ 138
Umm, I ought to remember, but, truly, I don’t for sure. I think it was Rubin who said, “never trust anyone over thirty,” but not sure about the “question authority” quote. That might have been Abbie Hoffman.
Still applies, though. Obviously, a lot of the people in the country still haven’t figured that out, since Benito Giuliani is still saying that freedom is the “willingness to cede to authority.”
Maybe we ought to be saying, “question Rudy!” :)
Wow, wesgpc, that really says it all.
wesgpc @ 148
No dinner and no nookie for you tonight, wes.
:)
burnspbesq @ 145
Cassie, don’t pay any attention to this or the bad language here. You’re among adults. Focus on your studies. Plan for the future. Be disciplined. Don’t follow the crowd. Don’t seek approval. Do what’s right.
montag @ 152
Benito Giuliani — hahahaha! Hadn’t heard that one before — I like!
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 149
An electrician who insists on the best.
Kleins.
;)
Jonathan @ 104
I’ve wondered about this as well. In thinking about how people like Shrub and his Crime Family are so tight with the Jewish neocons, I started thinking this might be the case:
People like “The Bloody” Kristol and his fellow bloodlusters are only concerned about protecting Isreal at all costs, no matter how many troops and collateral damage there is. In fact, if you can use American taxpayer dollars to do it, even better.
People like Shrub and “the Fam” are willing to work with the “defend Isreal” crowd in order to rob from the US Treasury and enrich the Military-Industrial Complex, in which they are all heavily invested (Carlyle Group, Halliburton, etc.) Perpetual war is what they’re looking for, and defending Isreal is a great reason to keep the war machine humming, thereby guaranteeing profits indefinately. The oil companies also profit greatly from wars, just by the increase in gas usage, and in taking over the oil reserves and infrastructure of the destroyed countries.
I feel like it’s a great big game of, “you scratch my back, I’ll sctrach yours.” Strange bedfellows.
SnarKassandra @ 145
It just never ends, does it? And of course, they’re trying for Texas; it so happens that Texas exerts a disproportionate influence over textbook publishers’ content decisions.
Rayne @ 151
I suppose the O’Hanlon/Pollack piece is the NYT Op-Ed’s apology to The Regime for publishing Wilson’s “What I Didn’t Find in Africa” and all the trouble attendant thereto.
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 147
Replacing the vise grips is a lot cheaper than life-long grief. :)
wangdangdoodle @ 153
I think you may have a problem meeting girls or at least catching one.
althespook @ 141
So, are you saying we are still in the “saber rattling” mode, plus seizsure of assets, but not military action? That would be the big squeeze.
burnspbesq @ 146
Nope. I am going to president of the United States in 2032 and I am going to work hard in school and not do drugs or booze.
As for the boys part …….. hee hee
I gotta go to sleep. I am baby-sitting tomorrow morning early. TOO early.
Good night.
Rayne @ 151
what i love about his response is that it’s no better than any other right-winger’s. he couldn’t point to anything glenn wrote or said that was incorrect — couldn’t argue any of the points on the MERITS — so he just tossed a bunch of pseudoacademic invective his way.
no better than any other paste-eater.
I suppose the O’Hanlon/Pollack piece is the NYT Op-Ed’s apology to The Regime for publishing Wilson’s “What I Didn’t Find in Africa” and all the trouble attendant thereto.
TSF – I think Murdoch setting his sites on the NYT is going to be the answer to the Wilson op-ed.
Good night Miss Cassy.
g’night Cassie, hope they pay you well at the babysitting gig.
SnarKassandra @ 165
Night Cassie. Sleep well.
marymccurnin @ 144
Stum/beaver, what the hell. Sounds so lovely, and reminds me of the summer after high school. Camped on the American River outside of Auburn. Absolutely beautiful.
SnarKassandra @ 145
that’s a shame, Cassie. Sci was always my favorite subject after art. Still a major science fan, lot of good sci-blogs out there.
SnarKassandra @ 165
‘gnite, Cassie for Prez!
TeddySanFran @ 160
Could be, but why bother? They f*cked us well and truly for all time with Judy Blew-Lies Miller’s work on the run up to Iraq, along with the too-frequent injections of Friedman units and Brooksian babble on the opinion side of the fence. Seems like the Wilson piece was merely a momentary lapse.
LS @ 163
Right. as far as i can tell, bushco doesn’t want an iran war right now. I’ve recently read comments made by dick cheney that he WAS going to force an iran war when he got cut out of the loop after demanding libby’s pardon/commutation (it was in a major paper over the weekend, mcclatchy I think) he called it “tie the president’s hands on iran” and so my original thought that the angler piece was a warning to him no to try it or he’d be thrown to the wolves may have been right after all. Protocol soap is still the only game in town, tho.
Does anyone remember Ayn Rand’s symbol? I bought one from her organization, the Objectivists, years ago. Kristol admires her greatly as do NeoCons in general. The CATO Institute was founded by her followers.
She belittled morals, humanity, democracy (the people were beneath her) and had a god – money. The dangling pendant I received was a shiny gold over-sized $. She urged her followers to wear it as a symbol to replace the Star of David, the Cross or any other religious symbol. Atheism was part of her teachings.
She was totally contemptuous of the Jewish religion. Never mind what she thought of any other religion. I’d say her contempt was pretty equal for all.
Her motto was “be selfish”. Selfishness was praised. Greed was good. Money was lord. She is recommended reading by several other think tanks besides the CATO Institute.
Helping another person was called altruism and considered weak. I actually don’t know of any organization she helped that was not for self-promotional purposes. She is a major influence on the NeoCons. I find it such a reflection on their intelligence that they choose a third rate writer, self-proclaimed “philosopher” and some very shallow ideas that fuel ideologues.
I’m out, too…back on shift tomorrow. Good night all! Take care.
SnarKassandra @ 165
Night cassie. Watch that “hee hee” on boys. we’re a disreputable lot who are full of testosterone and lies.
LoudounLib @ 177
night loudonlib
‘Night, Cassie.
QuakerGirl @ 175
Who is John Galt?
(waving to all the leaving sleepy pups)
Good night LoudounLib. Don’t work too hard tomorrow now.
The LA Times has just scooped that Betrayus’ report in Sept IS GOING TO BE WRITTEN BY THE WHITE HOUSE.
http://www.latimes.com/news/na…..ome-center
Twain @ 162
Oh, for heaven’s sake, easily overcome…..massage feet and tickle or stroke their backs…end of story!!
LS @ 163
We are seeking to aggravate a response. How would we react if our Special Forces or Special Operations branches or CIA were hit with a similar order? More likely to sit down again across a negotiating table from Secretary Rice’s handsome envoy?
I think not.
Night LL. Pleasant dreams.
Hmm I go away for a few hours, to hide in the 19th century and now I find that I’m part of the feminist blogging scene, science is still outlawed in Texas, the lose nuts behind the wheel now want to call the Iranian military a terrorist organization. Man I need a beer.
Alright, gang. I’m off to try the vlogging thing again. Hopefully tonight’s results will be better.
Good night all of you sweethearts. I look forward to hearing from you tomorrow.
Suzanne @ 167
What’s still unclear to me is whether the executive meeting at NewsCorp about the “vulnerabilities” of the NYT was about competing with it or acquiring it. Perhaps the first, then the second?
LS @ 185
Foot massage. I’m yours!
althespook @ 175
Haven’t checked your blog this evening, must confess I don’t know if you haven’t already done a thorough reading of the situation I’d mentioned yesterday.
I’m wondering based on your comments tonight, then, whether somebody was trying to tip the WH that OVP slipped his leash and is continuing the black op, preparing for a false flag?
Jonathan @ 181
A figment of Ayn Rand’s constricted and badly overheated imagination.
TeddySanFran @ 186
That is my take as well. BUT, the Iranians DON’T want a war either. So they may swallow it and just move the money around. given all the santions, i doubt there is much vulnerable stuff in the us anyway.
And this may have some darker purpose we aren’t seeing yet…would not surprise me. I have the feeling the old Bush 41 team is back in charge of furren policee and they are slick and deadly…
I mentioned this earlier today but after watching Kristol on The Daily Show last night I was left with a distinct impression Kristol was describing all the good in Irak in the same manner as O’H and P.. Among other descriptions used I think they were all on the same 8 day Iraki junket..
Agree with dmg above who said Kristol knows he spews bullsh*t.. Wonder what his price was when he sold his soul to the PNAC devil?
althespook @ 184
Fuckers.
QuakerGirl @ 190
Night.
argosfalcon @ 188
You need more than one.
Rayne @ 193
Whew!
argosfalcon @ 188
that’s what you get for missing staff meetings. And see wesgpc@148 for the correct manly man method of imbibing said beer.
QuakerGirl @ 176
let’s not forget alan greenspan was in her inner circle of acolytes.
althespook @ 183
from ak’s link:
argosfalcon @ 188
I know what you mean. I’m pouring if you’re drinking. Lager okay? also got honey porter, could do a black-and-tan.
montag @ 193
Hey, I thought this was a great opening line when I was 14.
TeddySanFran @ 191
Holy shit! I have been out of touch.
Watch out, the net is next…
“at a desk, with a pen in his hand.”
It took just a bit more than that Ted, the man is a combat vet, and as I said, your venom is righty directed at the criminal regime that has brought on this disastrous situation, chickenhawks all.
EvilDrPuma @ 197
Umm, is that really a surprise?
Not these days, I would think.
althespook @ 184
“Despite Bush’s repeated statements that the report will reflect evaluations by Petraeus and Ryan Crocker, the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, administration officials said it actually will be written by the White House, with inputs from officials throughout the government.”
Sounds like the famed “Plan for Victory” from the political science educated White House propagandist.
QuakerGirl @ 176
Rand was a major influence on her acolyte Mr. Andrea Mitchell as well (Alan Greenspan).
montag @ 208
Nothing BushCo does surprises me any more. Everything offends me.
althespook @ 46
Actually you can’t. I have to type in the english one word at a time to get simplified chinese ideographs and then run them through the graph to pinyin (romanized mandarin) translator from wikipedia. I have no idea how to do it backwards.
The quote is “Great Great Foul Mouth Woman Writer”. Ancient chinese doesn’t have a word for “blog”. And Great Great is a superlative like “really REALLY great”.
I thought the word for “blog” was the word for “writing on the Great Wall.” I hear that the guys in charge didn’t like it then, either.
Bob in HI
been a long one.
waving my wings, dudes and dudettes.
keep it headed straight on til morning.
althespook @ 184
***
Jeez…talk about burying the lede…this in paragraph 21(!) of a 26-paragraph story.
Night dmg.
EvilDrPuma @ 197
If that is true then it will have no credibility in Congress. Incredibly stupid thing to do.
althespook @ 201
Community members hereabouts should not be missing distaff meetings (said the foul-mouthed fem-blogger).
Christ. He’s going to recommend whack-a-mole! Pull back from quiet areas, turn them over to the Iraqi army, set up quick-reaction forces at special bases. Chase al-Qaeda phantoms til interest lags. Repeat.
wesgpc @ 148
(had to go rummage around for this one)
Three men were sitting together bragging about how they had given their new wives duties.
The first man had married a woman from Iowa, and bragged that he had told his wife she was going to do all the dishes and house cleaning that needed to be done at their house. He said that it took a couple days but on the third day he came home to a clean house and the dishes were all washed and put away.
The second man had married a woman from Wisconsin. He bragged that he had given his wife orders that she was to do all the cleaning, dishes, and the cooking. He told them that the first day he didn’t see any results, but the next day it was better. By the third day, his house was clean, the dishes were done, and he had a huge dinner on the table.
The third man had married a Minnesota girl. He boasted that he told her that her duties were to keep the house cleaned, dishes washed, lawn mowed, laundry washed and hot meals on the table for every meal. He said the first day he didn’t see anything, the second day he didn’t see anything, but by the third day most of the swelling had gone down and he could see a little out of his left eye. Enough to fix himself a bite to eat, load the dishwasher, and telephone a landscaper.
Us Minnesota women know how to treat a man!
wangdangdoodle @ 192
See, it is the ultimate route to peace.
Bush is now planning on ruining General Petraeus.
Bush is the Great Destroyer of all things and now another peon will get tossed under the bus in order to bolster Bush’s sacked credibility.
-GSD
P.S. Fred Barnes is huffing some serious Rove jock:
“Rove is the greatest political mind of his generation and probably of any generation.”
Anyone have a linkie to a reasonably up-to-date table/chart of US troop levels in Irak since 2001? I did look, but anything I could find had nothing past 2006.
Rayne @ 193
I have feelers out on the matter, Rayne. The published info doesn’t have enough meat for me to work on. I need especially to know if the purchase was being openly done by the Maliki govt or by a specific agency of same, or by an individual in that govt. makes all the difference.
And the OVP is walking very softly right now according to reports. wurmser got canned, apparently for trying to set up said false flag op IN THE US. The one in Iraq isn’t can happen any time (as my blog noted) but it may not matter. If chimpy’s leash is back in the hands of the Bush41 crew he won’t be controlled by cheney or his stunts anymore.
What I am looking for is the purchase of MBT’s, helos, ARTY and munitions for same. If the Maliki govt has been doing that and has delivery sched, then we are in a world of hurt. And they have the multiple billion dollars in us currency that went bye bye to draw on to buy the stuff with.
Also from AK’s la times link:
CD @ 214
My first reaction also. Almost like it’s two completely different articles in one, with the important one second.
althespook @ 184
Un-fucking-believable. Rove’s gone one day — ONE DAY! — and the message machine has failed.
AZ Matt,
Having no credibility in Congress hasn’t kept Aleberto Gonzales from getting job promotions and a closer grip on the machinery of power.
Most notably the power of death over American citizens.
Is the frog cooked yet?
-GSD
GSD @ 221
Snort….Rove’s 15 minutes of glory…then he is going to get nailed.
the magic beverage it gave us bread some say the other way round, but you would think we treat the lands of beer and bread better. But they did give us the first cities and despots, writing and lawyers, and taxes so I guess the modern world is not so modern (I forgot large scale organized state warfare).
Jonathan @ 181
John Galt was so ridiculous that the character she sets out to develop in the beginning of the novel she can’t make believable so half way through the novel she cops out by making him some myth. She did the same thing Jack London did in The Sea Wolf. He could get his Naturalism philosophy to work in Call of the Wild but when he applied it to humans, he changes the purpose of his novel half way through. Any Rand has no antagonist just herself as a protagonist. I can easily win arguments with myself too. I posit the question and it all falls into place. But if you take the opposite view I have a much harder time proving my argument.
GSD @ 220
I will now throw up on my shoes.
BusChen sucks more than the air out of the global well-being…
Asian Stocks Fall to 3-Month Low on Consumer, Credit Concerns
Rove’s gone after only $3Trillion? Hmm, who’ll be gone in the next ten?
Rayne @ 204
nectar of the gods and goddess’s.
dmg @ 202
Every time he mumbled senseless phrases at the camera I was reminded.
GSD @ 221
And the ‘06 elections were the greatest Dem gains of our generation, and possibly any generation. Thanks KKKarl!
GSD @ 221
Whee, that clinches it. They’re skimming the really good stuff off the top.
Because damn, whatever they’re smoking it’s good shit.
Rove is right…he is a cog in the wheel…Henry is still the Godfather.
GSD @ 227
I think many Repubs( & one Inpendent Dem) are looking to that report to give them cover. This won’t cut it for them.
althespook @ 195
But in the “with-us-or-against-us” world, aren’t the financial restrictions much more than simply US-bound? I think the Guards will have a tough time even doing business in Switzerland or the Caymans, based on the new tools Treasury has at its disposal.
I really am going to get ready for bed now. Good night, really
althespook @ 223
Wow, interesting; I figured the walkabout billions in USD left the country for psyops and election rigging. In a sick, sad way it’s almost reassuring that it stayed there, assuming it did.
And I have been wondering whether Baker & Co had inserted themselves in the mix, too many oddities happening that weren’t in sync with the OVP and Rovian playbooks. The meetings in Maine were rather in your face. I also wonder how Sarkozy might have ended up with such a special role, as yet undefined.
Amusing thought: was Rove booted by Baker & Co not only because the hounds were getting too close to the EOP, but as a warning to VP that nobody is untouchable, and he’s next?
Good night QG
GSD @ 227
What Gonzo can do is short circuit the federal death penalty review process. the MINUTE he does so, look for the affected lawyer to file a complaint based on Gonzo’s situation and every state bar in the country submit an amicus brief in support.
My lawyer friends tell me that there is an unbelievable amount of hatred built up against AGAG. Something is going to let it out, and that might be enough.
Night QG.
PB (peanut butter) @ 68
All that ABC paper in money market funds sure surprised me.
Here come de bus!
humboldtblue @ 207
According to wiki (fwiw) Petraeus did not see combat prior to deployment in 2003 to Irak. Is this incorrect?
Rayne @ 241
And the chimp has been visiting Connecticut more than usual lately.
Rayne @ 241
Rove was Cheney’s hostage via Libby. By shooting Rove themselves, TeamBush41 have turned cheney into a hostage taker with no hostages. this does not improve his life expectancy.
TeddySanFran @ 121
his daddy’s issues?
Oh my, we do think alike Teddy. I think Kristol, the Pod and Georgie all suffer from ODDS – OutDoing Daddy Syndrome.
Al, Sarkozy comes into the mix because of Manuel Noreiga. He’s due to get out of the hoosegow in September.
Poppy wants him to stay in jail, not run around poor nations spreading “conspiracy theories” about the elite and their ways and what they do to interlopers who they decide to toss to the ground like a wrapper.
France is looking to extradite Manuel El Pineapple Noreiga and ten bucks says Sarkozy will oblige.
Sarkozy’s wife won’t like it and will probably start screwing around on him again…but Sarkozy wants to sit at the big boys table.
-GSD
Now what do we call this brave new experiment in governance if you can have a constitutional monarchy would we have unconstitutional undemocratic neo- theocracy?
TeddySanFran @ 239
Depends on how well they launder it. And St. Kitts is still around for example and they don’t give info to anybody.
TeddySanFran @ 226
You know, I don’t think it did. I think this article was an example of a shift in hands at the helm. There’s a different reason why the article will be written by the WH — and it’s got nothing to do with Rove.
Dollars to donuts that Baker and Gates will be authors, and it’ll look like something that makes the implementation of the rest of the ISG necessary.
Perhaps not so off topic, but I wonder if it ever bothers conservatives that they are so comprehensively wrong on every issue? Wrong on Iraq? No problem. Wrong on trickle down economics? No problem. Wrong to put unqualified hacks in critical positions of power (witness Katrina)? No problem. Wrong on global warming? No problem. I’m beginning to believe that the hallmark of conservatism is extreme irresponsibility. They have loony ideas, none of which work, and they to a man refuse responsibilty for the tragic outcomes of their actions. Can I get a witness?
EvilDrPuma @ 211
Inherently Contemptable
GSD @ 249
THANK you, GSD. I had missed that. Sigh. Like a hispanic Napoleon, would you not think? wonder it they’ll put him on the same island and poison him with arsenic…
althespook @ 247
It is strange feeling some relief that Bush One and Baker might be back in charge. Or is this six of one, half a dozen . . . . .
A little polonium goes along way.
marymccurnin @ 256
Fielding, Baker, Scowcroft. The Unholy Trinity of the Bush Crime Family, although Scowcroft once was a decent guy. he mentored a few of us newly minted spooks when he was AF intel, back in the day…
marymccurnin @ 257
Better than Cheney, Codpiece, and Rove
Al, I had said sometime back that the Bushco/Rove operation had thumbed so many eyes that they were going to die the death of a thousand cuts as they get undermined from within.
Bring on the briefs.
-GSD
Technicolouryawn @ 254
They don’t seem to ignore being wrong so much as they utter fail to recognize that they’re wrong.
Technicolouryawn @ 253
On last nights TDS, Jon was pointing out to Kristol all the times he was wrong.
marymccurnin @ 257
Any chance they will try to neutralize Cheney while they are at it – if this is indeed what is happening?
althespook @ 107
I was hoping to find some besotted wenches, myself.
Bob in HI
Twain @ 259
I guess its either the little dicks or the big dicks.
On a serious note. I thought the Project for a New American Century (PNAC) doctrine was retrograted wingnut nonsense, that the Iraq disaster would have flushed it down the toilet of historically awful ideas. The Pollack and O’Hanlon flap has gotten me to reading about the current centrist foreign policy establishment.
Seems like the wingnut PNAC mass homicide approach has gone mainstream. Is that right? The very idea that the PNAC approach, or anything even a little big like it could be considered sane, is horrifying.
The whole PNAC approach, as I understand it, to US hegemony or leadership, or whatever, comes down to finding excuses to order countries around and then killing people and blowing up stuff if they don’t do as we say. Some of the junk coming from what seem to centrist groups seem to be just PNAC with a light lipstick and powder. OK, we won’t just issue orders and then start a war if everyone don’t snap to smart quick like a bunny. No, we will get some ad hoc group of countries, and we will have discussion and think about it some, be very serious and thoughtful about it, and then kill and bomb after we have decided, reluctantly, in a manly way, that whoever has received orders has not snapped to and obeyed. It is even worse than PNAC, since it seems cowardly and sneaky to cover the national descent into mindless violence with some goofy little concert of ad hoc flunky countries who will pretend to decide to do what we want them to do anyway.
Two Thucydides quotes seem to me to sum up the appraoch: “The strong do what they want to do, and weak suffer what they must suffer” and “To Greeks (the US) freedom means you can make others do what you want.”
The UN, or any kind of serious multilateral organized system seems to be only for losers now. Why, I don’t know. The US can still make the UN do pretty much whatever it wants. Didn’t we get the UN give Bush the intial OK to start the Iraq disaster. But I guess that approach is for losers. You have to have these meetings, and come up with ‘rationale arguments’ and get permission to do stupid murderous things. I guess that is not good enoug for us now. Even that fig leaf is too degrading to our manhood, we want to be arbitrary and transparently phoney and patetntly hypocritical, and do stupid murderous things on our own, on our own time table from now on.
Some intrepid blog like FDL, needs to smoke out what delusional nightmares these mainstream foreign policy ’scholars’ are cooking up for us.
If FDL does that it, it will still be a ‘women’s iussues blog’, since it will not just advocate killing all the time.
Seriously, WTF are these people who have the ear of the media and the candidates saying? I want a guidebook. Is there a website that gives an overview of the current schools of madness?
What has happened to the serious people of this country when people like Truman, Eisenhower, Dean Acheson, FJK, would be considered hippy pacifists now?
Their not wrong the world just failed to conform to their expectations.
marymccurnin @ 257
I would much rather have 41’s team handling this. 43 is as mad as a March hare, and OVP is pure-D psychotic. At least the old man and his folks had the wherewithal to feign shame as appropriate.
And the old boys are losing money hand over fist as the market tanks on tightening of credit and the economic saber-rattling with China. They need to nip this in the bud since they are at a point in their lives where liquidity is better than not.
Veddy insteresteeenk.
Can’t wait till the keeds come in from recess.
Anon, fellow travellers…
Fern @ 264
Hard to say. I mean, Cheney’s the only insurance Bush has got that impeachment proceedings won’t start up against him when the chance is Cheney could become prez…
Jonathan @ 205
Trust me, I’m an English major. Rand greatly appeals to the fourteen-year-old ego. Otherwise, not so much.
So poor Poppy is running around trying to prop up his mentally deficient son and his ruined presidency and the entire federal government is looking to bring him down.
All except for the bright-eyed Pat Robertsonians sewn hither and thither at all levels who just want that doggone apocalypse to get here.
-GSD
argosfalcon @ 257
heh
Coming in late on this thread but if it hasn’t been mentioned already, has anyone seen the Der Spiegel article on progress in Iraq? http://www.spiegel.de/internat…..54,00.html
On the surface, it appears to offer a factual balance, but when you separate out the more opinion based arguments being made, it could be coming out of the mouth of wild bill kristol. The fact that its a euro source probably will be trumpeted by wingnuts as a sign of credibility. However, it’s not the first time the propaganda game of alley-oop has been played with euro individuals.
Fern @ 263
Only if the congress gets too close to impeaching GWB before he can pardon everyone as he goes out the door. their whole long term strategy is utterly dependent on that. Biden knows this by the way.
Who is FJK? Guess I meant JFK.
Technicolouryawn @ 254
Me3 – Been saying as such for a long time, I think the ideological base is missing a leg and is inherently unstable.
wesgpc @ 277
Fuckin’ Jerk Karl?
Bush, –Bush Jr.
Kagan, –Kagan Jr.
Kristol –Kristol Jr.
wangdangdoodle @ 269
Night WDD. And counting on bush to keep promises is like counting on the wolf to honor a non-agression pact with the sheep. everything is fine until the wolf gets hungry..and wolves get hungry quite often…
althespook @ 276
Vedy, vedy interestteeeenk. Do tell more… ?
From WaPo:
argosfalcon @ 268
Conservatism never fails, you simply fail conservatism. Seems that the world has been doing a lot of failing lately.
Rayne @ 268
Lotsa red on tomorrow’s board.
althespook @ 281
smoochies, al
;)
LS @ 280
The list doesn’t end there, by any means. It includes the Podhoretzes (including in-laws), the Goldbergs, mother and son, and probably a few others I’ve happily forgotten.
Wingnut welfare… it’s a family values thing….
Rove was wrong, Shock and Awe does not work on the American people.
Well, I am off to bed. God I long for late September and an end to smoke.
TeddySanFran @ 285
Yeesh. I really want to say thanks for that link, but, yeesh…so much blood.
Damn, I am going to have to kick my spouse’s butt for not busting hump and moving some investments. This is going to hurt.
wangdangdoodle @ 281
Biden on a major face show (my term for the talking heat shows cause it’s just really faces they don’t show the whole head) said that the real way to punish bush and cheney is not to impeach them, but to wait until they leave office and then pursue normal criminal indictments against them. In the US, ex-presidents don’t get immunity from prosecution the way they do in CA and SA. He was later asked abut the ability by GWB to prevent this by pardoning everyone as he goes out the door. Biden replied that if it can be proved that mr bush was committing crimes at the time he issued the pardon which would have been impeachable, the pardon will not hold because the constitution says so. It was pointed out that for this to happen, bush would have to be IMPEACHED (not convicted) when his term of office ends. Biden’s reply was supposedly a big, cruel smile.
Now i’m getting this from the son of a friend who worked the green room of the show where he appeared and so it’s not verifiable. but it does make sense and may be the endgame that reid, conyers, pelosi and biden and maybe even Leahy are working towards…
Rove drank the Republican Kool-Aid.
He grew up in the late 60’s.
To him a revolution was the ‘Reagan revolution’ and the ‘Republican revolution of 1994′.
They were both significant political events, but hardly “revolutions”.
These folks were always a little ego-centric.
Karl is going to see what happens when reality starts to push him around.
-GSD
Was there not an old medical saying “when you hear hoof beats think horse not zebras” applied to the present tall foreheads in the whitehouse why do the jump right pass the horse and zebra’s and all ways think of unicorns.
DrDick @ 288
Goodnight, Dr.
Dick! :)
AZ Matt @ 283
…lowering of the old safety nets. Hell, shredding is more like it…!!!
LS @ 288
Oh?
argosfalcon @ 293
And, completely ignored donkeys in the process. :)
althespook @ 291
I’m pretty certain that a blogger we all know has mentioned that a judiciary committee is awfully close to drawing blood, and I trust their judgment implicitly.
Its time for me to pass on to dreamland myself, peace and freedom to you all.
argosfalcon @ 299
Peace, falcon
argosfalcon @ 298
Night AF. I hear Morpheus is running the LOTR trilogy tonight…in HD no less!
Same here, argosfalcon. Lager caught up with me, now time to saw logs.
g’nite to all the leaving sleepy pups
montag @ 114
I’m much more impressed by a gal with her own tools, who knows how to used them, than I am with a foul-mouthed fem. The former radiates competence and ability to do something positive. The latter makes me suspect an angry nag. Guess who I’d rather spend time with?
Bob in HI
TeddySanFran @ 246According to wiki (fwiw) Petraeus did not see combat prior to deployment in 2003 to Irak. Is this incorrect?
That means that he still probably hasn’t seen combat. Unless you count hanging in the bunker while the insurgents mortar the green zone. I get the impression that in this conflict, field grade officers don’t get stuck out at the sharp end very much.
Teddy@285 …
I think what rattles my gourd most about the markets right now is that WalMart revised their expectations downward. That means real people have really noticed what’s going on and are reacting accordingly.
It looks like the subprime apocalypse is here. Larry Kudlow better start clapping louder.
Here in little old NH, in the heat of real estate and building season…the local paper had a front page story about a second developer/construction company folding and declaring bankruptcy.
This company had been around for 50 years.
Summer is the building and sales season.
It’s gonna get very ugly.
-GSD
Muzzy @ 274
Wingnuts are already citing this article from a liberal rag as proof we are winning.
argosfalcon @ 251
I guess you could call it an elective tyranny. If the elections are fixed, then it’s just tyranny.
OT a bit for this thread, but some of you might want to look up the Yezidi/Yazidi sect on Wikipedia. No surprise they’re in trouble, given their beliefs.
Also – strange views about cabbage.
Bob Schacht @ 303
bob, you DO know the “foul mouthed fem-blog” stuff is from the press release susan collins press guy put out today because a vlogger is following her around with a video camera….we’re mocking it to annoy the trolls who may be watching or dropping by…
sorry if i’m teaching grandpa to suck eggs here…(I have NO idea what that aphorism is based on and I don’t think I WANT to…)
What a shtick.
Point to liberal rag and say see!
At least the Republicans are now admitting that the liberal media does good reporting.
-GSD
Helpless Dancer @ 305
Best as I can find, Petraeus didn’t have a CIB before going to Iraq. Probably has one now.
darkblack @ 296
I’m not going to go there. My impressions of it are not mainstream. “Fear” worked obviously, based on what worked historically, however, shock and awe is a published neocon tactic.
bill in turkey @ 309
After they stoned that poor girl to death for dating a boy from a different religion and the mob included women and girls, none of whom tried to stop it, my sympathy for that particular genetic backwater of “humanity” has gone to flatline.
They like killing people for their religion/culture, let them enjoy being killed in return. As they measured out, they are measured out to.
Since when is Der Speigal so ‘liberal’? who says? Maybe they can advertise it as liberal since it is from ‘old yurp’. It’s the NYT of Germany. There is a word for its style ‘Spiegalsprache’: trugid, pretentious, old-fashioned, convoluted, long winded, officious, tired.
GSD @ 311
just like cheney quoting the leaked july miller info in the nytimes on the talking head show as confirmation of cheney’s point. if it is in the nytimes…
forkers manipulating the media and expect us to fall for their old tricks…
Uh, Speigel. Spiegelsprache. I can’t spell in any language!
wesgpc @ 315
Most of us americans are clueless on this stuff, wesgpc. I THINK I know that Le Monde is liberal in france, but I have no idea which major italian papers are liberal. And I’m hopeless on magazines. And i used to read those at work, getting paid to do so. But it’s been twenty five years….
wesgpc @ 316
It’s probably more a matter of age. Der Spiegel has been around a long time. Remember the line in “Chinatown?” “Ugly buildings, whores and politicians all get respectable if they last long enough.” Might apply to news outlets, too. :)
Rayne @ 298
Hoping so, fingers crossed and waiting to see.
Crash and burn time.
‘gnite perritos!
OK folks.
It is getting close to WWIII or IV or whatever the fuck.
We all know who the media turn to for their scoops and talking points and agendas.
Upping the Iranian ante at Drudge.
-GSD
Rayne @ 193
You know, reading this it suddenly occurred to me that maybe all the NSA spying stuff is not a secret intimidation factor directed at Congress, or at the press, but at staffers who might be tempted to leak stuff online…
Nah, it’s probably all three.
wangdangdoodle @ 320
night again, WDD!
wesgpc @ 318
Der Speigel, das ist it!!! Ja…!!! ;-)
montag @ 313
Also noted that humboldtblue, after claiming Betrayus was a combat veteran, seems to have left us.
althespook @ 319
Le Monde is, by French standards, slightly right of center, but not much. By U.S. standards, they’re flamin’ communists. :)
Nite, Sleepers…!!!
JT @ 322
add bloggers in there. the powers that be are beginning to fear the netroots, and their usual response to things they fear is to try and destroy them…
If the rumor that Rove was pushed out by 41 and co, then cheney is going to be pushing back like that wounded coyote jane wrote about so long ago.
Perhaps these Iran articles are part of Cheney’s pushback to retain his power over 43?
JT @ 323
Probably also being used commercially.
montag @ 327
Mai Oui…!!!
LS @ 314
The guy who re-invented the theory was tripped up by the DC Madam, remember?
CTuttle @ 325
Spiegel, actually.
Suzanne @ 330
I don’t think either Bush the Younger or Rove give a flying flatulence what “41″ thinks. If either his father or mother is lecturing him, his first impulse would be to push back–to do exactly the opposite of what they thought was best.
It’s his nature.
Suzanne @ 329
I don’t think it’s power anymore, it’s attempted influence. The Idiot Boy Emperor has suddenly realized he DOES have power and may be trying to shake off the influence of Faithful Eunuch Cheney. Cheney’s hope is that he can pull enough strings in the media and the military to allow him to ride that tide back into W’s favor. but the game is changed forever, it will never go back to the “big time” period when Cheney could say to W, “this is how i think it should go” and W would say, “okay, big time, you know what you’re doing!”.
montag @ 334
but isn’t there documentation that boosh makes his decisions based on who he speaks with last – and that has been arranged by cheney to be cheney. wasn’t that in that wapoo 4parter about the dick.
How many trillion dollars does a gooper have to lose before he puts two plus two together and gets …nothing.
Nasdaq is perched at the 200 day moving average now (2500-ish). There may be an attempt to rally to the 50 day average (2610-ish) but it won’t work.
Once it breaks the 200 then there is no coming back. Again, this was not supposed to happen till October. The Quants were not expecting it either. Thus the bloodbath now.
It just goes lower as the Administration disintegrates.
Gotta love those cdo pimps. Ruin and chaos is the payoff. Plus a little White house-cleaning.
LS @ 314
I understand, and will accept that.
But ‘Shock and Awe’ is merely an truncated aphorism…Like ‘blitzkreig’, which it was meant to replace as an ‘acceptable’ rebranding.
All humanity responds equally to displays of staggering force, and has done so over the centuries…The American people are no exception, whether it is visited upon them, or visited upon others by them through proxy.
montag @ 313
You bet he does. I noticed it during a congressional hearing. I’m sorta jealous. All I ever got was an EIB. Then again I was fortunate enough to pick the one eight year period to serve in which we weren’t sending people off (much)to be shot at.
SnarKassandra @ 164
Just don’t let’em get you pregnant. That’ll mess up your plans!
Aloha,
Bob in HI
Fern @ 334
I typed it out initially, then retyped it thusly…!!! (Oops)
Boy oh boy.
The enemy laden rhetoric is ramping up…
Gingrich is pumping up the fear of foreigners….Giuliani will “stop the invasion”.
Jim Woolsey was spotted on CNN today talking up attacks on Iran.
Victor Davis Hansen is talking about Iran as a “paper tiger” on talk radio.
Bi Bi Netanyahu is back in pow
er at L*kud Central.
It’s all gone from slow to rolling boil.
-GSD
~~~ModNote: Edited for content to clear filters.~~~
montag @ 334
But they don’t do it that way! Remember these are old-style roman types, family is everything but it can also become an enemy if things fall right. Cheney screwed up in forcing the libby commutation, and Bush 43 used that to insert his poeple (Fielding, Baker, Scowcroft plus lower level ones) into the chain of command as “faithful family retainers” supporting W against the “disloyal cheney”. Cheney is NOT family and not a “made” retainer either.
So while chimpy would react badly to orders, he can just as easily be manipulated by the BushCo crime family consiglieri as by Cheney. And they’ve known him all his life and so must know where All the buttons are. Cheney sometimes has to guess, thus his screw up with Libby.
Wow, a lavender colored sunset here on the Big Isle, never saw it lavender like that!!! *g*
thank flossie for the eye candy bet tomorrow morning’s sunrise is purty too
The progress of man.
Rape and pillage.
Loot and plunder.
Blitzkreig.
Shock and awe.
-GSD
Suzanne @ 336
yes, but now the last person is often fielding who coordinates the defense against congress and the courts, or Hadley who is a clone from Scowcroft I *think* (have to check that) or his work-wife Condi (pure BushCo). Cheney is no longer A list and I’m sure he’s aware of it.
Suzanne @ 345
Most likely… *g*
CTuttle @ 344
Hold on to your macadamias.
-GSD
When I left, it was foul-mouthed fems and Glocks and now it’s sunsets..
Steve-AR @ 349
yeah but they are hurricane sunsets and sunrises
neokneme @ 338
Shorter and in English.
-GSD
Suzanne @ 337
Yes, quite possibly. But, that doesn’t have much to do with Mom & Dad, does it? I don’t think they’re advising Cheney to advise Junior. The only person Cheney’s listening to right now is his next-door neighbor, Rummy. !
Ultimately, I think Bush pere is irrelevant right now. And if Mama Babs is telling Bush to be nice and listen to his elders, he’s saying, “yes, ma,” and thinking, “fuck you, bitch.”
This fellow hasn’t been normal for a long, long time. There’s no reason to think he’ll be normal now because he has to subsist, politically, on his own….
If Cheney organized a palace coup, I don’t think it had much to do with Ma & Pa Bushwa.
wangdangdoodle @ 192
Shoot. I wasted my time on the wrong lady. I gave an ex-girl friend a foot massage in a hot tub before breakfast a month ago, and what did I get? Zilch. The next day, she’s traipsing around the fairgrounds with one of HER ex-boyfriends. Sheesh.
Bob in HI
PB (peanut butter) @ 68
I wonder how many hundreds of millions the Bush laissez faire policy has cost his adoring Rich fans on Wall Street?
After a while they might begin to understand that Dubya’s idea of liquidity is just to piss on everybody.
The Street did much better with a Democratic president and some guidance from a Street pro (Rubin). Do ya figure they made enough from the Bush tax cuts to hedge their current losses?
wesgpc @ 316
They have been better than NYT about BushCo for last years. They have been just as bad as MSM about economics in last days, not doing their damn research.
GSD @ 349
Heck, it’s a blessing the World’s Largest Field left much of their crop to rot in the fields because of the glut from foreign suppliers!!!
Fern @ 331
Oh I think we have to assume it’s being used for commercial espionage. But I think our trade partners have assumed this for a long time. Major corporations, too. Basically, if you aren’t using end-to-end encryption, you’re being spied on. I will point out, because I care, the Clinton administration’s disgraceful record on encryption (using it, spreading it is crminal; encryption is not privacy, but military weaponry).
And I think the press has long accepted that if they talk to “terrorists” that they are in full-on espionage mode. I wouldn’t necessarily evne have a problem with that except they seem to willingly accept their puppet masters.(Aspens in fall, etc).
The part that’s newly occurred to me is that the spying has reached a level where it’s designed to keep potential whistle-blowers in check – if you talk to these people, we have already captured – for politically neutral data-mining purposes of course – everything you say.
From the Der Spiegel article, see if you can spot the wingnut rationale for why we cannot withdraw:
“America is paying a high price for the future of the new Iraq. In addition to the 3,659 deaths, more than 26,000 US soldiers have been wounded, scores very seriously. According to official government reports, an estimated one-in-three soldiers who have been stationed in Iraq suffer from emotional disorders, most of them exhibiting symptoms of post-traumatic stress syndrome. This would mean that tens of thousands of men and women are returning home with serious psychological problems, because they have suffered too much, seen too much, smelled too much, heard too much and killed too many people.
These figures and consequences alone are enough to illustrate why the United States cannot afford a defeat in Iraq. Much is at stake for America — far more than its reputation on the global political stage. The American people will demand a solid explanation for all the sacrifices of the war, including the financial. They will want to know why their government spends roughly $370 million a day on the Iraq war, especially if, as some predict, it will only turn into another Vietnam.”
I bolded one familiar wingnut mantra- “we have to stay and have more troops killed because it woul mean that those killed would have died in vain.”
Another at the end: “will only turn into another Vietnam”. Will turn? Jesus.
GSD @ 353
Shorter and in English.
-GSD
The hedge funds use a “quantitative” model to forecast the future of the market in order to trade with an advantage. They were expecting the rally that started in early July to continue through August and hold up in September. There is a precedent for that exact behavior in the bubble unwinding experience of the Nikkei 225 10 years ago. (Japan’s tech-heavy index) So it is kind of an open secret what “should” happen in the market if you follow this stuff. (I happen to.)
What went wrong is that the folks at the bottom of the food chain (”distressed paper” traders) got wind of the scheme and pulled the plug before the profits were in the bag. I knew this and have been posting about it for awhile although cryptically.
Now that the cat is out of the bag along with all the money, the resulting recession will actually hit as the market is now out of control.
The take away is that the ongoing recession will mark the beginning of a new republican administration as it has every time before.
Though this is all a bit tricky to swallow, it is in English.
Suzanne @ 337
I missed that, but it sounds true enough :)
althespook @ 336
Big time is seeing record low approvals and more rebellion from what is left of “moderate” republicans… Libby CONvicted, he has a vote over the Senate? That’s gotta chafe some people… He was the one recorded saying “Go fuck yourself” on the Senate floor when questioned about a war appropriation accountablity.
On the NSA information:
Fern @ 331
Barron’s Wall Street wrote one of the very first pro-impeachment op-eds when a story about insider trading on Wall Street implicated the “watchers” and the evidence died in the Justice Dept… There was insider trading operations run in the Capitol building from GOP offices based on foreknowledge of legislation passage.
neokneme @ 338
It is really interesting and enjoyable to come here and watch my train of thought debated around the table and all I feel the need to do is comment. Post after post I am nodding my head in agreement.
That is a rare experience, thank you for it.
Neo,
You said:
The take away is that the ongoing recession will mark the beginning of a new republican administration as it has every time before.
Is that forecasting 2008?
-GSD
Good to see you Me3. It’s been awhile!
OT – DailyKos has a poll showing Al Gore’s strength as a hypothetical candidate –
Wore my big red, white & blue ReElect President Al Gore 2008 button as I joined the mostly republican throng at the first Carmel-by-the=Sea Concours ‘d Elegance today on Ocean Avenue. Could have sold dozens and remain in shock, dandy happy shock.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..182646/012
The who, the when — open questions…soon though — can you feel it?!
The recession is really underway now but it will take several consecutive negative growth quarters before the economists declare it even exists.
By then we’ll have a new administration, I predict. But that is just me…
Or is it?!!
neokneme @ 364
Thank you :) And yes I had to be away moving, building, and working… Off-grid. I delayed a research project to stay activist and volunteer time until the elections, then a couple of weeks later I had to pack up and go.
I have some small windows of time and have been reading along a few late nights, and recently posted again for the first time in ages.
Thanks for saying hi!!!
neokneme @ 366
Are you saying “new Republican” in an election sense or in a Jerry Ford stepping in sense?
-GSD
Me3,
Cheers to you too.
-GSD
GSD @ 369
Tip ‘o the h@ to one of the best minds on the net. I always enjoy your posts.
GSD and Me3 — You are bringers of the light!
Thank you both very much — this is what we have been working towards all along.
Even though Rove is a short-timer, He’s still there. People forget that. We shouldn’t.
No electable republicans left — it’ll be a bait and switch somehow (Like Ford). There is a great danger that the new configuration will not allow elections however.
oh dear – it looks like no one mentioned that trex has a vlog upstairs….
Yeah. Dark Times indeed.
Who knew all the talk of Star Wars and the Empire back in 1977 were presaging the dawning of a reconfigured America.
It will take more than all the kings horses though.
-GSD
Cheers and stay loose.
Things will start to get back to normal in 2013.
Hope we’re around to enjoy it!
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 219
There’s Better Times a’comin’ (Jimmy Martin)
Verse 2:
There’s various male chauvinist versions of this verse, such as riffing off the line “but looks a little better”, e.g. “and doesn’t smell much better”, as well as whole sale re-writing of the last two lines by various errant wits. Its a popular song at Bluegrass festivals, where hen-pecked male chauvinist pigs are in abundant supply.
Bob in HI
althespook @ 311
Al,
Yes, but some seemed to be wearing the “foul-mouthed fem-bloggers” label as a badge of pride. I appreciate your note because at times I am snark-impaired.
However, I really can understand the temptation to wear the “foul-mouthed fem-bloggers” label as a badge of pride! Back in the day of the John Birch society, when they were writing down names of “Commie sympathizers” in their doomsday books, some of us wanted our names thus inscribed as a badge of honor. I mean, if the John Birch society called you a dirty stinking Commie, then, well, you were really someone special!
So, for example, if Jane is on Susan Collins’ list of “foul-mouthed fem-bloggers,” then I tip my hat to her (Jane), and if she self-identifies with Collins’ list whether or not she’s on it, then I’d love to spend some time with her, too (although I would hope that I would not have to forego some face time with NewDealFarmGrll and her box of tools :-)
Bob in HI
montag @ 335