Comments on: Friendly Fire http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/14/friendly-fire/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 27 Nov 2009 23:26:08 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: readerOfTeaLeaves http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/14/friendly-fire/#comment-896561 readerOfTeaLeaves Wed, 15 Aug 2007 04:45:57 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/14/friendly-fire/#comment-896561 <p><b>‘to DLC’, </b>a verb: <em>‘to debase oneself to corporate interests at the expense of the environment, fiscal responsibility, social justice, and integrity.’</em></p> <p>DLC Dems mistake capitulation for compromise; if it weren’t for Howard Dean calling bullshit on DLC-type collusion with the Rethugs, I wouldn’t pay attention to the Dems at all.</p> <p>As for obscene blogs… let’s hope the delicate Sen. Collins doesn’t read Shakespeare or Aristophanes — she might be offended by the witty obscenities wielded by those dead white guys! </p> <p>Thank God I don’t have to spend my time in Susan Collins’ 2007 obscenity-free version of Cloud Cuckooland!</p> ‘to DLC’, a verb: ‘to debase oneself to corporate interests at the expense of the environment, fiscal responsibility, social justice, and integrity.’

DLC Dems mistake capitulation for compromise; if it weren’t for Howard Dean calling bullshit on DLC-type collusion with the Rethugs, I wouldn’t pay attention to the Dems at all.

As for obscene blogs… let’s hope the delicate Sen. Collins doesn’t read Shakespeare or Aristophanes — she might be offended by the witty obscenities wielded by those dead white guys!

Thank God I don’t have to spend my time in Susan Collins’ 2007 obscenity-free version of Cloud Cuckooland!

]]> By: SouthernDragon http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/14/friendly-fire/#comment-896088 SouthernDragon Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:58:07 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/14/friendly-fire/#comment-896088 <p>If one’s behaviour is constantly focused on proving one’s self a man, or a woman, it shows only that that person has yet to learn who s/he is. Rather than looking inside, these seekers choose to look outside and to emulate those who best fit their fantasy image. Their lives are filled with envy, anger and angst. I chose to be neither something nor someone I am not.</p> If one’s behaviour is constantly focused on proving one’s self a man, or a woman, it shows only that that person has yet to learn who s/he is. Rather than looking inside, these seekers choose to look outside and to emulate those who best fit their fantasy image. Their lives are filled with envy, anger and angst. I chose to be neither something nor someone I am not.

]]> By: Wordsmith@work http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/14/friendly-fire/#comment-895940 Wordsmith@work Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:03:51 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/14/friendly-fire/#comment-895940 <p><a href="#comment-895664"><em>darrelplant @ 216</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-895442"><em>Jeff W @ 209</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Who’s for another Meet the Press debate? Last Sunday it was Harold Ford vs. Kos This week it’s the ladies: Susan Collins vs Jane Hamsher. Man, I pay HUGE money to see that one.</p></blockquote> <p><b>CAT FIGHT!</b></p></blockquote> <p>Oooo - is this for reals!?! ‘cuz if it IS, I need more TiVos!</p> darrelplant @ 216

Jeff W @ 209

Who’s for another Meet the Press debate? Last Sunday it was Harold Ford vs. Kos This week it’s the ladies: Susan Collins vs Jane Hamsher. Man, I pay HUGE money to see that one.

CAT FIGHT!

Oooo – is this for reals!?! ‘cuz if it IS, I need more TiVos!

]]> By: Greenjeans http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/14/friendly-fire/#comment-895861 Greenjeans Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:40:34 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/14/friendly-fire/#comment-895861 <p>Harold Ford: Irrelevant L-O-S-E-R.</p> Harold Ford: Irrelevant L-O-S-E-R.

]]> By: molly http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/14/friendly-fire/#comment-895804 molly Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:23:32 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/14/friendly-fire/#comment-895804 <p>Several years ago..Susan Collins was hanging out with Tom Delay and Joe Lieberman. Came home to Maine to speak to the Bangor theological seminary…about ETHICS. That’s a foul mouthed female. It just didn’t ring true somehow. A tall long haired gentleman in the back asked Susan to talk about Iraq. She refused …he asked a couple more times. Then she went to the Bangor News to complain about the lovely young man interrupting her ethics speech. Bangor News wrote it up with just the hint of she is trying to put the young man in a bad light and We won’t be a party to it. Bangor News stood tall that day and Susan looked less than honest or ethical.</p> Several years ago..Susan Collins was hanging out with Tom Delay and Joe Lieberman. Came home to Maine to speak to the Bangor theological seminary…about ETHICS. That’s a foul mouthed female. It just didn’t ring true somehow. A tall long haired gentleman in the back asked Susan to talk about Iraq. She refused …he asked a couple more times. Then she went to the Bangor News to complain about the lovely young man interrupting her ethics speech. Bangor News wrote it up with just the hint of she is trying to put the young man in a bad light and We won’t be a party to it. Bangor News stood tall that day and Susan looked less than honest or ethical.

]]> By: KayInMaine http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/14/friendly-fire/#comment-895775 KayInMaine Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:14:25 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/14/friendly-fire/#comment-895775 <p><a href="#comment-895185"><em>OldCoastie @ 81</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>I lived in Maine for many years and I don’t recall the women of the state as being particularly delicate in their language usage.</p></blockquote> <p>Nothing has changed. ;-)</p> OldCoastie @ 81

I lived in Maine for many years and I don’t recall the women of the state as being particularly delicate in their language usage.

Nothing has changed. ;-)

]]> By: DrKarlMarx http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/14/friendly-fire/#comment-895720 DrKarlMarx Tue, 14 Aug 2007 23:54:11 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/14/friendly-fire/#comment-895720 <p>Harold Ford, Jr the man with no personality is a huge supporter of the Iraq war.. He is not a very smart man either, he never passed his Bar Exam in 1996 and has never tried again. He is fake, and no he is not a true democrat.</p> Harold Ford, Jr the man with no personality is a huge supporter of the Iraq war.. He is not a very smart man either, he never passed his Bar Exam in 1996 and has never tried again. He is fake, and no he is not a true democrat.

]]> By: darrelplant http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/14/friendly-fire/#comment-895695 darrelplant Tue, 14 Aug 2007 23:45:13 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/14/friendly-fire/#comment-895695 <p><a href="#comment-895380"><em>Sacanagem @ 201</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>This entire catfight between Kos and the DLC does seem to have quite a bit to do with control, doesn’t it? Who gets to control the message and claim to be the “voice of Democrats”? </p></blockquote> <p>It’s always about that. THat’s what it was about in 1972, when people like Muskie, Humphrey, and Jackson who had supported the Vietnam War (and the party machinery that supported them) were the front-runners in the elections and McGovern won instead. They didn’t want to lose control of the party to McGovern’s people, and they did their best — even to the point of withholding support from McGovern — to keep that from happening.</p> <p>As for Kucinich not answering the question about a dirty bomb going off, he said that “you have to know where it’s coming from…we must have a national security doctrine that involves using good old-fashioned police work to track down people who appear to be ready to strike at this country…”</p> Sacanagem @ 201

This entire catfight between Kos and the DLC does seem to have quite a bit to do with control, doesn’t it? Who gets to control the message and claim to be the “voice of Democrats”?

It’s always about that. THat’s what it was about in 1972, when people like Muskie, Humphrey, and Jackson who had supported the Vietnam War (and the party machinery that supported them) were the front-runners in the elections and McGovern won instead. They didn’t want to lose control of the party to McGovern’s people, and they did their best — even to the point of withholding support from McGovern — to keep that from happening.

As for Kucinich not answering the question about a dirty bomb going off, he said that “you have to know where it’s coming from…we must have a national security doctrine that involves using good old-fashioned police work to track down people who appear to be ready to strike at this country…”

]]> By: darrelplant http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/14/friendly-fire/#comment-895664 darrelplant Tue, 14 Aug 2007 23:29:47 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/14/friendly-fire/#comment-895664 <p><a href="#comment-895442"><em>Jeff W @ 209</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Who’s for another Meet the Press debate? Last Sunday it was Harold Ford vs. Kos This week it’s the ladies: Susan Collins vs Jane Hamsher. Man, I pay HUGE money to see that one.</p></blockquote> <p><b>CAT FIGHT!</b></p> Jeff W @ 209

Who’s for another Meet the Press debate? Last Sunday it was Harold Ford vs. Kos This week it’s the ladies: Susan Collins vs Jane Hamsher. Man, I pay HUGE money to see that one.

CAT FIGHT!

]]> By: Enoch Root http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/14/friendly-fire/#comment-895622 Enoch Root Tue, 14 Aug 2007 23:04:10 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/14/friendly-fire/#comment-895622 <p>Whoa whoa whoa a second here….</p> <blockquote><p>Harold Ford has a financial relationship with Fox News, and he’s happily carrying the water for the Republicans at this point to destroy the only messaging arm the Democrats have</p></blockquote> <p>The Democratic party has many messaging arms. The distinction is that Kos (and FDL and c.) are the only ones saying what you want to hear. Don’t get too big for your britches here.</p> <p>The real reason the right wants to demonize the Great Orange Satan is so that they can show videotape of Hillary Clinton endorsing the ‘hate’ of YearlyKos. And, of course, so that Rick Perlstein’s grandma hates him. They don’t have to spend much (capital or political), and the returns, while not huge, are certainly worthwhile.</p> <p>Those of us in the Reality-Based Community were saying the same nasty things about the religious right in the mid-80s as Bill O’Reilly is saying today about Kos. Get it? That’s politics. It’s a victory for the netroots to be hated by the right wing.</p> Whoa whoa whoa a second here….

Harold Ford has a financial relationship with Fox News, and he’s happily carrying the water for the Republicans at this point to destroy the only messaging arm the Democrats have

The Democratic party has many messaging arms. The distinction is that Kos (and FDL and c.) are the only ones saying what you want to hear. Don’t get too big for your britches here.

The real reason the right wants to demonize the Great Orange Satan is so that they can show videotape of Hillary Clinton endorsing the ‘hate’ of YearlyKos. And, of course, so that Rick Perlstein’s grandma hates him. They don’t have to spend much (capital or political), and the returns, while not huge, are certainly worthwhile.

Those of us in the Reality-Based Community were saying the same nasty things about the religious right in the mid-80s as Bill O’Reilly is saying today about Kos. Get it? That’s politics. It’s a victory for the netroots to be hated by the right wing.

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