Amusing comment of the morning comes from Chris Matthews: “Is this going to be like a conjoined twin break-up?” Don’t know why, but I found that one rather humorous.
CNN’s current headline on the Rove resignation: “Rove Says He Was Not Forced To Quit.” Gosh, and taking Rove at his word has proved to be so reliable in the past, now hasn’t it?
(Photo via BagNewsNotes.)
Presser begins. 11:26 am ET
PRESIDENT BUSH: I…uh…have been talking to Karl for a while about…uh…his desire to spend more time with Darby and Andrew. This is a family that has made enormous sacrifices not only for our beloved Texas, but for a country we both love. We have been friends for a long time. And we’re still going to be friends. [CHS notes: Bush looking a bit weepy this morning.] I’d call Karl Rove a dear friend.
We’ve known each other as youngsters interested in serving our state. We worked together so that we could be in a position to serve our country. So I thank my friend. I’ll be on the road behind you here in a little bit. I thank Darby and I thank Karl for making a tremendous sacrifice and I wish you all the very best.
KARL ROVE: Today I submitted my resignation as Deputy Chief of Staff (CHS notes: which, according to the CNN report is inaccurate, because they say his resignation was submitted to the President on Friday…just FYI.) and Senior Advisor effective the end of the month. Mr. President, we are grateful for the opportunity that you gave me to serve our nation and you. And I’m grateful for being able to work with the extraordinary men and women that you have drawn into this Administration. And I’m grateful to have been a witness to history. [CHS notes: Rove is wearing a spring green tie with little designs on it, and I'm trying to determine whether they are frogs. Amusing. Rove is also a bit weepy this morning.] It has been the joy and honor of a lifetime.
I’ve seen a man of far-sighted courage put America on a war footing, and protect us against a brutal enemy in dangerous conflict that will shape this new century. I’ve seen a leader respond to an economy weakened by recession, corporate scandal and terrorist attacks by taking decisive action to stengthen the economy and create jobs. I’ve seen a reformer who challenged this Administration, the Congress and the country to make bold changes to important institutions in great need of repair.
Mr. President, the world’s turned many times since our journey began. We’ve been at this a long time. It was over 14 years ago that you began your run for governor. And over 10 years ago that we started thinking and planning about a possible run for the presidency. It’s been an exhilarating and eventful time.
Through it all, you have remained the same man: your integrity, character and decency have remained unchanged and inspiring. Through all those years, I’ve asked a lot of my family and they’ve given all I’ve asked of them. Now it sems the right time to start thinking about the next chapter in our family’s life. It’s not been an easy decision, as you know from our discussions that started last summer. It always seemed there was a better time to leave somewhere out in the future — but now is the time.
I will miss — deeply miss — my work here, my colleagues and the opportunity to serve you and the nation, Mr. President. But I look forward to continuing our friendship of 34 years. To being your fierce and committed advocate on the outside and of the next journey that we might make together.
At months end, I will join those whom you meet in your travels — the ordinary Americans who tell you they are praying for you. Like them, I will ask for God’s continued gifts of strength and wisdom for you and your work, your vital work for our country and the world, and for the Almighty’s continued blessing for our great country. Thank you again for this extraordinary opportunity.
Presidential hug. Both look weepy, and they are headed across the lawn.
David Gregory just called Bush and Rove “political soulmates.” That pretty much sums it up for me…
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Christy!
Rove holding back tears. BLECCH!
Mainlining coffee to counter the photos this morning – hurts my eyes
Karl’s all emotional
Looking at that photo, you can just smell that turd blossom aroma.
Karl is all chocked up, poor guy. Claiming he has served the country.
I’ve seen a man of farsighted courage put America on a war-footing…
I’ve seen a reformer make bold changes… to institutions in need of repair.
Your integrity, character and decency are inspiring.
Karl Rove saying good bye to GWB
He will ask for God’s help!
So, how long before Karl and Jeff are on a plane to Paraguay?
There was something really “off” about the mood of that presser. Something’s afoot.
If I put on my Ray Bans will I see two alien faces on the tube?
Liberal Heart @ 10
I don’t think Rove’s going willingly
One word: Kabuki.
Two crooks get together and talk about how good it was working together. If hypocrisy was fatal, these two would be pushing up daisies, or given their characters, weeds.
who played the presser? I tried C-SPAN 1 and 2 – nada…
GWB to Rove – “I’ll be on the road behind ya here soon.”
I wish he’d been under oath.
I think he was canned also… Think Progess has Leahy’s reaction up – essentially “full speed ahead” with the investigations.
More time with his family. I’ve never seen a picture of Darcy.
I saw a comment several months ago- I wish I could remember where- that predicted that Rove would resign within the next few months, for a simple reason: If Rove was going to make his pile through influence peddling, he needed to do it before Bush was gone and there was no influence to peddle.
Makes sense to me.
That was it?
Elliott @ 12
Agreed, though the pressure may be from forces outside the WH, not within. Whatever it is, I thought the presser sounded (and looked) more like a death announcement. The emotion was so thick you could spread it on bread and call it peanut butter.
CNN, ET.
Ed*ard Teller @ 14
It was over and done with quickly but was on CSPAN 1, at least over the net.
ET – it was on msnbc
OT
whew!!!
Chuck Todd is halfway down on Rove’s c*ck right now. He’s reaching for Rover’s nuts now too.
-GSD
This is brilliant on the CNN headline writer’s part. Folks won’t see the “Not” but instead see the “Forced To Quit”. Simple psychology.
Hugh @ 13
Poison oak.
Elliott @ 12
Could not agree more. Voice quavering? Misty eyed… something is really wrong here. If this were Karl’s decision it should have played out differently in front of the cameras. Very weird. Sociopaths only get emotional when they think they’ve been outmatched.
Rove to GWB – “Through it all you’ve remained the same man.”
Well, Karl told a truthy there. Lacked a few adjectives between ’same’ and ‘man’, but the truth, nonetheless. Dammit.
….its turd mushrooms, not blossoms!
….what isle in Texas, Mr.Rove?
citizensue @ 28
Well, I hope everyone will forgive me for enjoying that little scene.
So one of the most disliked Presidents in our history said goodbye to one of his two most disliked advisers who is leaving for reasons that remain highly dubious. Somehow I think this will not be the way the MSM plays this.
Rove wasn’t behaving like a man leaving while on top.
-GSD
Somewhere in New Orleans a Vodou doll just got hit hit with a pin. I wonder who is the next to fall under the Vodou curse?
Elliott @ 31
Damn. Hope someone is going to put it on youtube?
EPU’d
Leahy’s statement from Thinkprogress:
Earlier this month, Karl Rove failed to comply with the Judiciary Committee’s subpoena to testify about the mass firings of United States Attorneys. Despite evidence that he played a central role in these firings, just as he did in the Libby case involving the outing of an undercover CIA agent and improper political briefings at over 20 government agencies, Mr. Rove acted as if he was above the law. That is wrong. Now that he is leaving the White House while under subpoena, I continue to ask what Mr. Rove and others at the White House are so desperate to hide. Mr. Rove’s apparent attempts to manipulate elections and push out prosecutors citing bogus claims of voter fraud shows corruption of federal law enforcement for partisan political purposes, and the Senate Judiciary Committee will continue its investigation into this serious issue.
The list of senior White House and Justice Department officials who have resigned during the course of these congressional investigations continues to grow, and today, Mr. Rove added his name to that list. There is a cloud over this White House, and a gathering storm. A similar cloud envelopes Mr. Rove, even as he leaves the White House.
Sociopaths only get emotional when they think they’ve been outmatched.
citizensue at 28: That feels about right to me.
http://www.washingtonlife.com/…..Darby-Rove
Link to photos of Karl and “the wife”.
I know someone else spotted this but this is something to think about
bush actually said this;
errrr
Hugh @ 32
There is still Cheney. Could this be part of his takeover plan?
snowbird42 @ 24
And Reid actually believes they’ll stick to the deal? The record on that is discouraging to the rest of us.
—
This calls for snark. I don’t think I can reach the level it deserves … but were they blowing up frogs together? Or what kind of definition of ‘youngster’ is he using? The one that a ninety-year-old might use, where everyone under 70 is a youngster, or the one most of us use, where it’s applied to under-13s?
@33
Rove wasn’t behaving like a man leaving while on top.
turdblossom always struck me as a bottom . . .
bye bye turdy!
Rove looked like he had little green doctors pounding at his back.
That was the departure of the Architect….the man who ushered in Bush’s 2 governorships and two Whitehouse victories?
Rove looked like a dead man walking.
-GSD
Boston1775 @ 37
Take it to the bank, it’s my area of study.
Phoenix Woman @ 26
And it is definitely a “question-begging headline”
It begs the question – Why would someone think that Rove be forced to quit?
And, to its credit, if you read the article it mentions some of Rove’s more serious problems, including the US Attorney scandal and traitorgate.
snowbird42 @ 24
This is why Bush has been holding off recently on appointments of any sort, even for his beloved Fascist Fourth Circuit: He no longer has the free ride he enjoyed the first six years of his time squatting at 1600.
rwcole @ 38
funny how they look like brother and sister.
perris @ 39
Ass opposed to pulling the train in front of you?
rwcole @ 38
Are you sure thats not a man?
citizensue @ 28
The emotions were contrived. Rove is a professional liar. He knows how to morph his gelatinous tissues into any creature. Rove used tears and the invocation of God to pander to the Base.
I do not believe that Rove believes in God. Unless God is Rove.
Talk about poor quality people.
It looked like they were both hung over?
Agreed. Something weird is happening
johnSwifty @ 48
am I getting that wrong?…is that a fruedian slip?
I’ll be on the road behind you here in a little bit.
are they talking about a resignation and bush let slip?
Interesting timing of the Karl Rove resignation…
Usually “these types of stories” come out on Friday…
What other stories are happening today….?
–> A Miami judge will hear arguments today.. ( THAT PLACE: Florida … The state that makes their own Foreign Policy .. and FEMA pre-event schedules)
http://www.thestar.com/News/article/245714
To understand this “new Bush / Miami / French connection”
we need to read between the lines…
What dark story does the Bush family and French Sarkozy,
have to discuss or prepare for…
–> Where will ex-dictator Manuel Noriega go?
He wants to return to Panama after release from jail;
–> U.S. wants him to face French trial
paint the criminal story
priority #1: how to supress interviews and intelligent journalistic discussion of history….
What does Noriega know?
Quite a bit about…
–> drug and money laundering, and weapons smuggling deals.
Remembering… Luis Posada Carriles
http://www.democracynow.org/ar…../09/148243
C-SPAN just added the presser to their recent programs category at their home page.
maybe husler (LARRY FLNN ) got a phone number with karl and a male involved ……
citizensue @ 44
Is Bush a sociopath in your professional opinion?
snowbird42 @ 24
And we would believe this, why?
citizensue @ 44
I’ve worked with a few young ones in training.
Uncanny.
Alternate headline:
George “Charlie McCarthy” Bush has just lost Karl “Edgar Bergen” Rove.
things come undone @ 57
Classic. If he had grown up without money and influence he could have become Jeffrey Dahmer.
With Rove going, I suppose it will fall to Dick to read George his daytime stories. “Dick and George go to Iran” is the story that scares me most.
He’s gonna work from his Texas house on a laptop and a telephone and it will be exactly the same.
barbara @ 58
Because it is straight forward. And we thought Reid had it covered then he didnt. Id prefer to believe this.
citizensue @ 61
He’s killed a lot more people than Dahmer ever did.
Rove’s departure is intended to take the heat off. Won’t work boys.
If he moves near me, can I have a different kind of pizza delivered to his house every 15 minutes?
rwcole @ 38
Thanks. She looks like a bundle of fun!
snarKassandra @ 63
Magnificent
So I thank my friend. I’ll be on the road behind you here in a little bit.
From your lips to God’s hand, or whatevever the saying is.
meanwhile, ABC local newsbrief interuption:
“Karl Rove, President Bush’s right hand man, is OUT. Now back to hot summer fashions for the non-bikini woman.”
Finally, the results of the 2006 election are bearing fruit: accountability! The lies, deceit, impunity, arrogance and criminality have caught up with Rove, no doubt. We’ll find out soon enough.
I have an idea. Let’s not indict any more members of the Bush Administration until after his term expires.
Then he can’t pardon anybody.
Vintage Rove from Nixon’s campaign, 1972 – scroll down to 3rd video from 60 minutes…check out the computers used to record what other candidates were saying…:
http://www.politicstv.com/blog/?p=3349
citizensue @ 61
How would he react when his world collapses. I know its a lot to speculate on but this insight of yours raises a lot of interesting questions.
egregious @ 65
Touche
Oklahoma kiddo @ 66
I do not beleive this is true kiddo, this is clearly going to attract heat
I am pretty sure there is information about to happen and it’s not gonna be pretty
perris @ 53
Oh, the Dubya could be that stupid, I have no doubt. Either the lime disease eating away at what little cognitive abilities he possessed or simple inability to recollect that information like that was ’secret,’ for fraternity member ears only — both scenarios could certainly occur from what I see in Dubya’s current state.
But I think the more simple fact is that Dubya sees himself as skating through one long vacation until January 2009 and so ’soon’ means as soon as it’s massage in the morning and golf in the afternoon, then it’s time for the evening meds, every day, not just Thurs – Mon, like the current schedule.
Watching the President’s announcement on Rove’s resignation, I’m with Marcy that Susan Ralston or somebody like her has probably started to talk on the voter suppression front. I’ll put my tinfoil hat on and watch it again, to see if that gives me a different take.
snarKassandra @ 63
Good point we still need to get his emails even if he is a civilian now!
It is time to organize a national “Rove Resigns” party. I will organize one and invite press to join in the party in my home town. Any other takers?
Vintage Rove from Nixon’s campaign, 1972 – scroll down to 3rd video from 60 minutes…check out the computers used to record what other candidates were saying…:
http://www.politicstv.com/blog/?p=3349perris @ 53
I thought the exact same thing…that would make Cheney incumbent president for 2008 election. I’m convinced they are setting Cheney up to get the nomination.
snarKassandra @ 63
and I didn’t see him hand in his Blackberry
This is a bizarre opening comment. You couldn’t write this stuff.
snarKassandra @ 63
Dubya uses a special device called an I-Putz.
I saw him wearing one on the internet tubes.
Karl will still be there. You are correct. Dubya can’t think what Karl wants him to think without Karl. Without Karl, Dubya will only be able to think what Dick wants him to think….
Uh Oh!
My worst fear of course is that he’s going to work for Hillary.
things come undone @ 79
Ask not for whom wireless wiretaps lurk; they lurk for thee.
LiberalHeart:
Push is coming to shove.
Mr. Fan blade, meet Mr. Feces.
Rove is only stupid with OTHER people’s asses; most notably, our military and the people of Iraq.
When his own ass is on the line, he’s a regular Nostradamus.
He knows:
That: no matter how rosy Petreaus’ “assessment” next month is, it’s over in Iraq.
That: Bush and his inner circle are rapidly approaching the point where they are more valuable to the republican party as sacrificial goats, than as a “presidential administration”.
That: over the next 15 months, throwing republicans under the bus is going to become an Olympic sport.
I think Rice will be the next to bail.
Ed*ard Teller @ 55
Thanks, ET! Lordy. That emotion didn’t sound faked to me. Is something about to break that involves him? Where is Cheney?
With W and Turd wimpering one has to wonder what crying corner finds liberman this morning.
carolyn urban @ 83
He is married?????????? She needs make-up and smiling lessons if her photo is gonna be in the news and magazines and on the net.
LS @ 81
Hrm. I don’t believe they’d try to put Cheney up as a prez nominee: his numbers are even lower than Bush’s. But…if he’s prez even for the remainder of the term, then watch out, Iran.
Although, it looks like watch out, Iran in any case…
Preznit Toad-Exploder and his closet cupcake kid Kkkarl getting all emotional and misty-eyed.
Enough to make one barf. But in a sweet sentimental sorta way.
egregious @ 65
Remember the Jim Henson’s Dinosaurs?
I just got a flash of Bush in the high chair:
PB (peanutbutter) @ 91
Who would ever vote for Cheney? Ever?
snarKassandra @ 94
Diebold.
LS @ 81
BIG mistake, cheney is not as imuned from impeachment as bush
BIG mistake
So, Rove gets to click his heels three times and our soldiers can’t?
Serving? That’s rich.
These are also bizarre comments. That last remark gives me pause. chimp sounds frightened to me.
things come undone @ 74
Blaze of glory. I don’t know if he could survive the colapse of his mythos. Lots of lashing out and binge drinking. Perhaps has already started?
I’m tellin’ ya, something here stinks like an overfull outhouse on a hot day in Texas.
Turdblossom has contigency plans for something.
LS @ 95
Okay… that was awesome.
LS @ 95
No. Diebold can change 48% to 52% but noone will ever believe it can change 2% to 51%.
InfoNut @ 101
Indeed. *tips hat*
He is married?????????? She needs make-up and smiling lessons if her photo is gonna be in the news and magazines and on the net.
If looking on the net, I’d start searching with “Mistress Darby”. She has that look.
Or maybe it’s just me.
Pelosi-2007
OK, while Marcy did an outstanding job of the internal drivers effecting Rove and the White House, let me try a couple external drivers:
1. The global financial system is facing a potential meltdown as the US mortgage markets turn out to have contaminated a number of “derivative” markets. Rove was Deputy Chief of Staff for Domestic Affairs. Presumably, he would have some affect on the policies affecting mortgages, through both the Federal Reserve, and the Treasury Department.
2. The “special relationship” between the US and Great Britain is being reassessed by Gordon Brown in lieu of the current President and administration. Part of that was KKKarl’s use of foreign policy as a tool for domestic politics
3. “The Math” has turned out very badly indeed for the Republicans in general and Bushco. in particular.
4. Babs finally had enough. Her George fired KKKarl once, and she was sick of him screwing around with Little George’s presidency.
That’s my wild *ssed speculation, and I’m sticking with it. Now, off to BBQ.
This is not a simple resignation. If Rove wasn’t a liability there’s no way in the world he’d be leaving.
We are pleased to announce that the winner of the John N. Mitchell Annual Award is . . .
LS @ 81
If something happens putting Cheney in the Oval Office before the next election you can be sure that nominations and elections will be a completely moot point.
We will certainly be at war in Iran and there will be no more elections.
Bustednuckles @ 99
turd is no genous, you’re giving him some kind of credit that he certainly does not deserve
snarKassandra @ 102
They can do whatever the software tells the computers to do.
jayt @ 104
Well, I looked at those pictures, and the expression on her face is the same one *I’d* have if I were married to him…a quiet, desperate sort of look of horror…
Interesting O/T -
Recall “The surge is working, troop deaths are down…” blabity-blab of late?
Possible reason (other than surge “success”)?
Playing politics with the lives of our soldiers, maybe?
‘eh?
Things gotta be looking like yet again “turning the corner” for the September Petraeus report?
‘eh?
snarKassandra @ 67
Extra Habanero Peppers!
perris @ 76
What you are saying sounds plausable. ;0)
LS @ 110
ya
the big problem the last elections is they didn’t ever imagine the hatred the repukelicans have aquired among Americans
if they had known they would have flipped even mroe votes
snarKassandra @ 67
Go Cassie! LOL!
snowbird42 @ 24
And Reid trusts the Decider after that FISA fiasco?
ccmask @ 96
Rove doesn’t cry for them, either. Rove’s crying was good acting. Crocodile tears. Maybe Rove took some of Chimpy’s meds to get his jag on. Maybe Rove skipped breakfast. If you’ve seen Rove just one time, spinning lies to the AEI or Texas Republicans, you would know that Rove can be anyone he wants to be on the podium.
This is so abrupt, and the press conference was so transparently false, I’m begining to think something truly embarrassing is coming–like someone discovered Karl with a young boy.
Rove-sputin takes the dive! Why are my feet tapping and dancing this way? Oh, frabjous day!
Y’know, I’d forgotten completely about this news tidbit, but, wasn’t Rove mentioned a while back as a candidate to run Bush’s library and “think tank,” (generously speaking, on the latter)?
Maybe I was wrong–maybe Rove isn’t going to run a campaign. Maybe, he’s going to be setting up the think tank as the fuck-you, stab-you-fucking-citizens-in-the-back operation of Republicans of the future….
ccmask @ 104
YOU must be joking!
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 118
My point exactly!
This frees up Rove to play with the upcoming R campaigns … as if Hatch had ever stopped him.
My take is that Rove is ditching W so he can go make some big money consulting for whoever they think is the big R choice.
Let’s hope the Ds actually follow through on those subpoenas.
green heron @ 119
can you imagine if the gannon scandal first became public today?
there is something afoot…or aleg…or a private part
perris @ 109
Sorry, but the man has no DNA.
jayt @ 103
Naw she is one of the UnDead!
Karl gots himself a Zombie bride from New Orleans…you really don’t think anything with a pulse would touch him did ya?
g’day pups – anything new going on – hehehe – so a squirrel got his nut huh lol – now rove is off to REALLY rake in the dough – next stop big think tank money…ok dems – ATTACK!!!!!!!!!!1
What kind of political Effery is this?
If Darby Rove married Terrence Trent Darby, she’d be Darby Darby.
Think about THAT for a minute!
moeman @ 88
Speaking of HoJo … does he have a public schedule in CT this month? Any Firepups up there know anything about that?
I could have sworn I heard Junyah say at one point, something to the effect,(paraphrasing from memory “We have been (dear) friends and I hoped we (can) remain good friends” at one point. I found that comment when I heard it kind of interesting..maybe I misheard it…but at the time when Junyah spoke it I thought it odd? Anyone else hear it like that?
1) Rove wanted to leave after losin the last election- but Clusterfuck wouldn’t let him- now it’s time to go.
2) Rove is about to be indicted
3) Rove was photographed having wild sex with a male goat
4) Rove is about to join Thompson’s campaign and insure that no dem ever gets access to the paper trail in the oval office.
5) Rove has 18 more months to sell his influence with clusterfuck to the highest bidder and become a wealthy man.
pick em!
Just watched the clip. I think Bush’s following-you-down-the-road or whatever comment it was he made was simply a reference to the end of his term and return to Texas. May that happen!! Good to know Karl Christian Rove (real name) is prayin’ for junior.
fdl reader @ 116
No Cassie, you should have the SAME knid of pizza delivered every 15 minutes! And GOOD morning, by the way! How y’all today?
barbara @ 123
He and the DLC are more afraid of MSM, alas, than of Bush. That is why they caved on FISA.
Naw she is one of the UnDead!
Karl gots himself a Zombie bride from New Orleans…you really don’t think anything with a pulse would touch him did ya?
“It’s good to be the
KingCzar”!!We still have Bush and Cheney firmly in place.
Gunga Djinn @ 131
If Oprah Winfrey married Deepak Chopra, She’d be Oprah Chopra.
emal – that was the one odd moment
the rest was standard boilerplate resignation junk
perris @ 126
That’s what I’m thinking. Emotional…family…Larry Flynt
EPU’d from last thread:
Biodun @ 163
Soooo…what changes over the short-run?
Does the corporate media finally get their balls back?
Or have they been neutered forever, never to possess a pair ever again?
rwcole @ 134
I’ll take sex with a male goat for 100, Wink.
How can Karl afford two houses (one in Georgetown) on a government salary?
Yeah, yeah, I know the wife works, but still . . .
Oklahoma kiddo @ 107
I think it’s a smoke screen. Losing his paycheck and changing his location won’t diminish his influence if Bush still wants him to be influential.
No Cassie, you should have the SAME kind of pizza delivered every 15 minutes!
Double anchovies and onions.
Biodun @ 143
Yup, given Tweety’s IQ, Tweety would think so….
perris @ 126
That’s what I’m thinking. Emotional…family…Larry Flyntemal @ 133
I did. “hope we can”…WTF
LS @ 81
I don’t worry about Cheney winning, just what he’d do between now and then.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 108
I agree. Something is coming.
Maybe what Karl says is true- he wants to leave to have more time for wild sex with his wife.
rwcole @ 134
I am working on my own list of possibilities on my blog. Can I add these and credit you?
Yikes – new NIE..Tet…
http://dyn.politico.com/prints…..D4341AFEE9
rwcole @ 152
Maybe what Karl says is true- he wants to leave to have more time for wild sex with his wife.
what – he’d take his socks off?
Siun @ 124
Rove is damaged goods. I don’t think even many Republicans would want that stench associated with their campaign. Rove (and the culture of failure and corruption he represents) would become an issue in any such campaign, something no Republicans politician wants or needs.
snar
sure!
Rayne @ 144
They’re probably on permanent display, soaking in a jar of formaldehyde, on Rupert Murdoch’s desk. I’d just as soon they didn’t make any attempts at reporting real fact; I like the way it is when I know the MSM is consistently full of crap. It’s a selfish view, but I find it easier this way.
Rove:
Some history. A history of disastrous proportions.
Anyone ever heard of a guy leaving his job to spend more time with his kid who is in college? What’s he gonna do? Share a dorm room with him?
THAT’S bullshit.
Missed the presser but unfortunately caught Chris Matthews smirking that Rove didn’t go out frogmarched as Joe Wilson wished but “like a gentleman and with the praise of the president.”
Is there a hell hot enough for this man?
Has anybody checked the BBC to see what disaster they’re trying to cover behind this little bit of shiny?
snarKassandra @ 94
What makes you think that anyone has to vote for him to “win”*?
Badwater @ 147
What Commander Infant wants, he gets.
green heron @ 120
Bingo! And got pictures.
soooo mitt bought the iowa straw poll – quel surprise….yeah i’m late with the news – i was out of commision for the whole weekend – :(
Good riddance to a lying sack of shit.
Biodun @ 142
No Tweety your a dumb @%$!
Could see Clusterfuck pardoning every person in his administration- and then leaving a day early so that Cheney could pardon HIM.
N=1 @ 164
I think even the MSM would figger it out. Bush is about as popular as gonorrhea right now, and Cheney would lose to syphilis.
Uh. Oh. Iran financier arrested in Iraq.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0813/iraq.html
We are likely to hear more stories from Republicans who Rove screwed over. Rove is supposedly even more vindictive than Bush, and I’ll bet a lot of people have things to say.
There may also be a pile-on if Rove is facing legal troubles. People will want to innoculate themselves.
Larry Flynt. Didn’t Flynt say, just last month, that he had the goods on someone big, and that even he was surprised by it?
Rove didn’t say he was leaving to spend more time with his family, he said he was leaving “for the sake of his family.” The last thing that Bush needs right now is for his closest adviser to be exposed publicly as, say, frequenting male prostitutes.
Is Rove a classic sociopath? Then there is junior, cheney, etc. I always had the idea that sociopaths operate alone, not join up with other birds of a feather. Maybe those with training & expertise in this area could shine some light on sociopaths, psychopaths, or whateverpaths & how they interact together.
JML @ 161
I think there’s an entire Bush Wing of Hell.
If Rove’s Waterloo is not the work of Patrick Fitzgerald but instead Larry Flynt…my faith in America is restored.
Biodun @ 160
infamy!
Could Hustler Magazine be the “Savior of Democracy”?
In a bizzare way, it’s kind of fitting..
Anyone who would plant a listening device in his own office and then call the press to come see what the opposition had done to him doesn’t have DEEP feelings of right and wrong.
I’m sure someone has pointed this out before, but even though it’s August, isn’t it really weird to get this sort of news on a Monday?
That’s the primary reason I smell a smokescreen. These guys have been habitual with the Friday dump; almost making an art form out of it.
Veritas78 @ 173
if they are smart, if they want to get re elected, they WILL pile on
but they will pile on against bush…he’s their ticket to re election, they have to distance this president from the republican party
they have to start calling him a “neo con”, and “not a republican”
they have to start saying these fascists highjacked their party
so let the pile on begin
ironranger @ 175
Forgive the Wiki, but here’s two classic sociopaths that worked together: Hillside Strangler
ironranger @ 175
Broken record, here. Don’t forget to factor in Bush’s alcoholism/dry drunk/damp drunk/drowning drunk factor.
Siun @ 141.
So did you hear it the way I heard it…We have been (dear) friends and hope we (can)remain friends
What’s up with that? Why couldn’t you remain friends Junyah..what reason(s) would cause or prevent you from remaining friends?
Arca @ 179
Sounds to me like your insinuating that Rove was out hustled..
Rove would want this to happen on a monday, to give teevee a whole week to do shows on his greatness. He thinks that he’s an historic figure- as great as FDR–his ego blinds him to reality.
ironranger @ 174
I have seen two mothers effectively train their sons and then work together, each pair as a team, to move ahead in whacking whomever got in their way, all the time making sure to play the victims.
JML @ 161
Forget drinking the kool aid Tweety makes me wonder if the LSD 13 ? Mentioned in the film Jacobs Ladder exists.
OT: general Kensinger is ready to talk about the Tillman debacle, but not to Congress. Did anything ever happen to him for hiding out to avoid that subpoena? Anything funny about him finally speaking up during August Recess?
FunnyDiva
“There’s always something that can keep you here, and as much as I’d like to be here, I’ve got to do this for the sake of my family,”
Fairfax @ 146
Remember, we’re talking about a guy who pays lawyers in gold bars.
emal @ 185
Only watched once, but it was my impression that Bush was speaking more or less off the cuff. And when that happens . . . well, ya know.
OK. It’s up.
Arca @ 179
I googled a bit on this last week there was nothing new. Not a damn thing. Even Flynt’s homepage was old news. I’ve been hopeful that Flynt was gonna take down a bunch of these sanctimonious god fearing hypocrites.
Where is Flynt? Larry, we need you.
As I have said many times, only watch CNN and MSNBC to make fun of the dopes. If you are looking for news, you won’t find it there.
Funny, before this i never knew that Piggy Karl worked for Bill Clinton.
One thing for sure. Karl is in a position to spill the beans. I doubt that fact is lost on Bush and Cheney.
If Darby Darby and Terrence Trent Darby had a baby, would they call it Kentucky Darby?
Guess we’ll just have to wait & see.
Does seem odd to say- “hope we can remain friends”- normally one would only say such a thing if one were firing a friend- but these are not normal friends.
hackworth @ 195
Be careful what you ask for. There may be Dems in the mix, Flynt’s Dem leanings notwithstanding.
johnSwifty @ 181
I thought the same thing.
Rove and the long view of history:
LS @ 171
If Iraq is a “independent” country and Abu goes there to “help” with justice, can’t the Iran minister of finance go to help with finance. From everything I hear their finances are in a mess.
Funnydiva2002 @ 190
Interesting timing.
Funnydiva2002 @ 190
I’m not so sure your off topic
beth meacham at 174,
Larry Flynt. Didn’t Flynt say, just last month, that he had the goods on someone big, and that even he was surprised by it?
But to me, I wouldn’t be surprised if kkKarl was involved in the sex scandal, unless it was with a woman, then I might be surprised.
hug the moon @ 201
He’s willing to level with O’Reilly about it on T.B.
Biodun @ 203
There you go. Rove is leaving due to early Alzheimer’s.
Fresh thread, up and running for everyone…
Did they both give the double handed peace sign before getting on Marine One?
-GSD
Have Reid, Pelosi, Conyers, Leahy et al actually gone “home”? Where are they?
I forgot about the Hillside Strangler story.
The people in my small town I have unfortunately known that seemed like sociopaths to me didn’t hang out together. Each had their own separate groups of people they liked to victimize & dominate.
JML @ 162
here.
LS @ 111
Yea… and that will bring out MILLIONS of armed citizens to take our country back…
No one would ever even think that they could get elected with single digit approvals..
Not even Cheney is that delusional..
Tanbark @ 87
Any idea what Rove meant when he said something about the next trip he and George might take together? Was it simply today’s trip to Crawford or something else we need to watch out for?
CHS: David Gregory just called Bush and Rove “political soulmates.”
They have souls? I would say it’s more like a symbiotic, or mutually parasitic relationship.
I will again stress that Rove and Bush are not omnipotent and events can indeed push them.
They are not puppet masters even though that’s what they would have you think.
Events are pushing Bush and Rove.
-GSD
I thought David Gregory said they were “political cell-mates”.
-GSD
If no one else has asked I’d like to know:
Is Karl free now from White House legal protection?
Can Fitz pursue the Valerie Plame suit to its conclusion?
Bush:
at a very low level.
Liberal Heart @ 216
Uruguay.
First, Cheney was left out at the Putin Kennebunkport meeting, and now Rove gets his ticket punched.
Welcome James Baker.
snarKassandra @ 194
Go Cassie!!!
conniptionfit @ 163
The Guardian had a frontpage yesterday on the “exhaustion” of the US troops, but that doesn’t seem of enough consequence to generate this distraction.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 198
Read that KKKarl and lovely wife and child were flying with the Toad Exploder to Texas. Otherwise known as the Wellstone statergy.
We’ve known each other as youngsters interested in serving our state. We worked together so that we could be in a position to serve our country. So I thank my friend. I’ll be on the road behind you here in a little bit. I thank Darby and I thank Karl for making a tremendous sacrifice and I wish you all the very best.
well, colour me ‘puzzled:’
when did the spelling of M.I.L.K. become S.E.R.V.E. ?
that photo of Rove behind Bush is, er, rather Aryan, you know….
“Thank you again for this extraordinary opportunity.”- Karl Rove
Exactly what opportunity would be extraordinary in Karl Rove’s eyes that he would feel the need to publicly thank Bush?
JML @ 225
Britian’s BAE scandal may be the straw that breaks the back of the Cheney presidency.
Colin, where are you?
That short lawyer from Texas serving Bush with the bad memory needs to spend more time with his family too.
lambchops @ 228
To resign instead of get marched out to the Hague.
SnaKassandra @ 232
We can pray and hope that will happen unfortunately for us I get an icky sicky feeling that Rove is up to more no good and even bigger than his other stuff.
By the way, I read your comments and really like this site. Mostly, I usually read. I learn so much from everyone here. Thanks. :)
Hey, check out this short, satirical “You Tube” video blasting O’Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and other right-wing pundits. You’ll love it! And, it’s done by an evangelical pastor!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Hh3xwuH-rE
“For the sake of my family”
Why can’t you skeptics just believe those sincere words. His wife and college-age son suddenly need him.
Problem is, he is not really parting from Bush; they will continue to communicate through unofficial private channels. Rove quit before he became worse than a nobody, a persona non grata.
Power for the sick mind is a greater motivator than money. With power you can get money upside down, backwards, inside out and twirling around.
lambchops @ 233
Does a tiger change his stripes? People don’t change, they just get older.
QuakerGirl @ 237
People can change if they go to counseling and stop using drugs and go to AA and NA and they work hard at making a change.
PLovering @ 223
You know, I hadn’t thought of that…Haven’t heard much from him (NOT a good sign).
Reading through this this Presser is as effective as taking epigak.
“And over 10 years ago that we started thinking and planning about a possible run for the presidency.”
Thus verifying the lie that Bush was not planning to run for president while running for governor of Texas.
Thought everyone might want a laugh right now…
HOW POLITICS AGES YOU
things come undone @ 49
The only bit of human empathy I can work up for the Rover relates to 1) his adopted mother’s suicide and 2) his being a closeted gay man in the world he’s chosen. My experience is that the most closeted of gay men choose the most mannish of women to marry. Exhibit A above.
RE the emotion at the presser, it’s shocking that so many people who know not to trust a single thing Rove does or says, suddenly believe the emotions of today’s performance.
I hope we discover whatever scandalous reason is behind the resignation, but I’m with those who say as far as Bush goes, it makes no difference. As a civilian, Rove can hold exactly the same job as now (job description: dastardly deed doer) only without the accountability. (not that there’s been any yet)
Rove at presser:
“I will miss — deeply miss — my work here, my colleagues and the opportunity to serve you and the nation, Mr. President. But I look forward to continuing our friendship of 34 years. To being your fierce and committed advocate on the outside and of the next journey that we might make together.”
TO PRISON?!!!
barbara @ 201
Flynt has specifically said “hypocrites beware, but plain old perverts have nothing to fear”. I’m comfortable with that, no matter who it hits – and it’s pretty obvious that criterion is going to hit the GOP harder than it ever could hit the Dems…
I see Cheney! Yesterday YouTube had a popular video where Cheney said in 1994 that it would be very unwise to invade Iraq.
Today another Cheney video needs to go viral – neighbors in Jackson Hole toppled him in effigy, shouting “Impeach Cheney First” while the Sheriff drove by and appeared not to mind.
See it at http://www.silencedmajority.blogs.com
“I’ll be on the road behind you here in a little bit.” — George W. Bush
A curious statement for sure!
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“And over 10 years ago that we started thinking and planning about a possible run for the presidency.” — Bush
“Thus verifying the lie that Bush was not planning to run for president while running for governor of Texas.”
— chip August 13th, 2007
Good catch!