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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/13/motivation-2/#comment-893811</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-892807&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Richmond @ 150&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
…&lt;br /&gt;
Yes and Hillary’s promoting universal service. She is in on it with them. More War all around.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Are you kidding me? Really? Wow!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ve gotta hear confirmation before I’ll believe that. I mean, she did call for more soldiers than Bush and she hasn’t apologized for voting for AUMF and she did hold off on saying we should end the war in Iraq, but calling for a draft is wild.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;America ended the draft after Vietnam because the people learned clearly they couldn’t trust their children’s lives with politicians and most generals (madmen, some of them). We went to a volunteer army and the Republicans tried to build confidence back with a long slow string of tiny victories. But, now, after Iraq, the American people have EVERY reason to NEVER trust their government with a draft.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, now would seem to be the least likely of times to call for a draft.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ve definitely got to hear a confirmation of this before commenting further.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BTW, I saw Edwards give a speech in Iowa on C-SPAN this evening. I think it was one of his best ever and it was to a group of about 100 in a pizza shop. He looked great and spoke earnestly and comfortably, even humorously at times, with folks who smiled, applauded and got lots of autographs. It was terrific to see him speak to middle-class issues and they responded.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My only criticism is that he needs to speak more in short declarative sentences where he’s less likely to ramble and lose the audience attention.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Edwards ‘08 — Leadership for America!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-892807"><em>Richmond @ 150</em></a></p>
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Yes and Hillary’s promoting universal service. She is in on it with them. More War all around.</p>
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<p>Are you kidding me? Really? Wow!</p>
<p>I’ve gotta hear confirmation before I’ll believe that. I mean, she did call for more soldiers than Bush and she hasn’t apologized for voting for AUMF and she did hold off on saying we should end the war in Iraq, but calling for a draft is wild.</p>
<p>America ended the draft after Vietnam because the people learned clearly they couldn’t trust their children’s lives with politicians and most generals (madmen, some of them). We went to a volunteer army and the Republicans tried to build confidence back with a long slow string of tiny victories. But, now, after Iraq, the American people have EVERY reason to NEVER trust their government with a draft.</p>
<p>So, now would seem to be the least likely of times to call for a draft.</p>
<p>I’ve definitely got to hear a confirmation of this before commenting further.</p>
<p>BTW, I saw Edwards give a speech in Iowa on C-SPAN this evening. I think it was one of his best ever and it was to a group of about 100 in a pizza shop. He looked great and spoke earnestly and comfortably, even humorously at times, with folks who smiled, applauded and got lots of autographs. It was terrific to see him speak to middle-class issues and they responded.</p>
<p>My only criticism is that he needs to speak more in short declarative sentences where he’s less likely to ramble and lose the audience attention.</p>
<p>Edwards ‘08 — Leadership for America!</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/13/motivation-2/#comment-893788</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 01:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-892733&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;cancer_cures @ 79&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Barbara @69,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why would Rove want to display the notion of weakness by tearing up?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It sort of shows he wasn’t prepared, that it was a shock to him. That sort of indicates the “Bush knife in the back surprise party”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is rather amazing that we can speculate so many different possible reasons he’s leaving, but none is particularly obvious.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is a mystery which will probably only become clear over time. I certainly wouldn’t expect anybody from the Bush family to clarify why they would shock someone so close and helpful.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-892733"><em>cancer_cures @ 79</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Barbara @69,</p>
<p>Why would Rove want to display the notion of weakness by tearing up?</p>
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<p>It sort of shows he wasn’t prepared, that it was a shock to him. That sort of indicates the “Bush knife in the back surprise party”.</p>
<p>It is rather amazing that we can speculate so many different possible reasons he’s leaving, but none is particularly obvious.</p>
<p>This is a mystery which will probably only become clear over time. I certainly wouldn’t expect anybody from the Bush family to clarify why they would shock someone so close and helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: TiredFed</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/13/motivation-2/#comment-893069</link>
		<dc:creator>TiredFed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-892772&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;PB (peanutbutter) @ 118&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-892761&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;bg @ 105&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Deciderer perhaps did not make the call.  Cheney did it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s why they both cry.  Didn’t wanna do it.  But Cheney said he had to go.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unles Poppy said he had to go.  Seems it could have been either.  I’d feel better if Poppy were behind it, since he’s got a much better notion of foreign policy; if Cheney engineered this, I find it much more disturbing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think this is Poppy’s doing. He fired Rove once before. I don’t see this coming from Cheney; after all, Rove is Bush’s minder and keeps George happy and out of Cheney’s way. Now who is going to babysit, Lynne?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-892772"><em>PB (peanutbutter) @ 118</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-892761"><em>bg @ 105</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>The Deciderer perhaps did not make the call.  Cheney did it.</p>
<p>That’s why they both cry.  Didn’t wanna do it.  But Cheney said he had to go.</p>
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<p>Unles Poppy said he had to go.  Seems it could have been either.  I’d feel better if Poppy were behind it, since he’s got a much better notion of foreign policy; if Cheney engineered this, I find it much more disturbing.</p>
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<p>I think this is Poppy’s doing. He fired Rove once before. I don’t see this coming from Cheney; after all, Rove is Bush’s minder and keeps George happy and out of Cheney’s way. Now who is going to babysit, Lynne?</p>
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		<title>By: george in PA</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/13/motivation-2/#comment-893030</link>
		<dc:creator>george in PA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;All the resignation signifies is that the bidding war amongst the R. candidates has either just begun, or is in fact all over. My guess is that Mitt mormon has offered to make Rove his (whatever Fat Karl wants). Plus trust fund money for the next 5 generations of Rovies.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the resignation signifies is that the bidding war amongst the R. candidates has either just begun, or is in fact all over. My guess is that Mitt mormon has offered to make Rove his (whatever Fat Karl wants). Plus trust fund money for the next 5 generations of Rovies.</p>
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		<title>By: the golux</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/13/motivation-2/#comment-893005</link>
		<dc:creator>the golux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And one more thing.  Who is going to oversee the Katrina reconstruction now?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And one more thing.  Who is going to oversee the Katrina reconstruction now?</p>
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		<title>By: val in canada</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/13/motivation-2/#comment-892949</link>
		<dc:creator>val in canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;rove will be off to california to fix california for the&lt;br /&gt;
2009 election.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rove will be off to california to fix california for the<br />
2009 election.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila Condit</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/13/motivation-2/#comment-892921</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheila Condit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There’s that Goebbels association.  Clearly, I’m not the only one to whom the relationship is obvious…&lt;br /&gt;
thanks for that post, Jim Clausen.  Steven D. said it well.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s that Goebbels association.  Clearly, I’m not the only one to whom the relationship is obvious…<br />
thanks for that post, Jim Clausen.  Steven D. said it well.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Clausen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/13/motivation-2/#comment-892886</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Clausen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Steven D over at BooMan says it all for me about Rove.(sorry about the entire quote)&lt;br /&gt;
 “Karl Rove is quitting Bush. As good a time as any to give my opinion of him. And it’s not complicated.&lt;br /&gt;
Karl Rove is a thug. The man boy who cheats. A bully, a liar, a do anything no matter how unethical or immoral to win kind of guy. Sure, he’s had help along the way in his thuggery from a compliant press willing to spread his lies about his political opponents, to a whole host of lesser villains in hate talk radio and on FOX News, MsNBC and CNN. And yes, he’s a clever man, if by clever you mean someone who has managed to fool enough people to protect his sorry ass even though he has admitted to being involved in outing Valerie Plame, and has been linked to every major Bush scandal from Jack Abramoff to the US Attorney firings.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But a genius he is not. He is a modern day version of Dr. Goebbels, Americanized and home grown to be sure, but above all a practitioner of the Big Lie. And he has succeeded as well as he has in life because too many Americans were willing to buy into those lies. Not everyone, just enough. Enough people afraid of people who have a different skin color. Enough people who are afraid of people who speak a different language or practice a different religion or love a different gender than they do. Enough people whose own lives are so miserable that all they have is their hatred to keep them going from one day to the next.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All Karl Rove did was ride that wave of fear, anger and hate in this country. He sold the fear, and told the gullible who to hate. He’s no genius, just a crook who saw an easy way to get what he wants from people by playing to their basest instincts. Unfortunately, America has a long history of hucksters and con men, thugs and bullies, and political knaves. Rove was not the first, nor will he be the last.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d like to say good riddance to him, but I’m sure he’ll pop up again to bedevil our country. There are still a lot of bigots, racists, fraidy-cats and just plain morons out there willing to believe his lies. More than enough to keep the likes of Turdblossom spreading his brand of toxic manure for years to come.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven D over at BooMan says it all for me about Rove.(sorry about the entire quote)<br />
 “Karl Rove is quitting Bush. As good a time as any to give my opinion of him. And it’s not complicated.<br />
Karl Rove is a thug. The man boy who cheats. A bully, a liar, a do anything no matter how unethical or immoral to win kind of guy. Sure, he’s had help along the way in his thuggery from a compliant press willing to spread his lies about his political opponents, to a whole host of lesser villains in hate talk radio and on FOX News, MsNBC and CNN. And yes, he’s a clever man, if by clever you mean someone who has managed to fool enough people to protect his sorry ass even though he has admitted to being involved in outing Valerie Plame, and has been linked to every major Bush scandal from Jack Abramoff to the US Attorney firings.</p>
<p>But a genius he is not. He is a modern day version of Dr. Goebbels, Americanized and home grown to be sure, but above all a practitioner of the Big Lie. And he has succeeded as well as he has in life because too many Americans were willing to buy into those lies. Not everyone, just enough. Enough people afraid of people who have a different skin color. Enough people who are afraid of people who speak a different language or practice a different religion or love a different gender than they do. Enough people whose own lives are so miserable that all they have is their hatred to keep them going from one day to the next.</p>
<p>All Karl Rove did was ride that wave of fear, anger and hate in this country. He sold the fear, and told the gullible who to hate. He’s no genius, just a crook who saw an easy way to get what he wants from people by playing to their basest instincts. Unfortunately, America has a long history of hucksters and con men, thugs and bullies, and political knaves. Rove was not the first, nor will he be the last.</p>
<p>I’d like to say good riddance to him, but I’m sure he’ll pop up again to bedevil our country. There are still a lot of bigots, racists, fraidy-cats and just plain morons out there willing to believe his lies. More than enough to keep the likes of Turdblossom spreading his brand of toxic manure for years to come.”</p>
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		<title>By: andhowe</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/13/motivation-2/#comment-892883</link>
		<dc:creator>andhowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wherever that slime squats, the good public better keep an eye on him, 24/7.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wherever that slime squats, the good public better keep an eye on him, 24/7.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila Condit</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/13/motivation-2/#comment-892882</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheila Condit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;P.S. to my warm and fuzzy post:&lt;br /&gt;
I don’t want to shoot Karl, I just want the cameras rolling when he goes to jail.  That’s my dream scenario.  I’m not counting on dreams to come true, though.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. to my warm and fuzzy post:<br />
I don’t want to shoot Karl, I just want the cameras rolling when he goes to jail.  That’s my dream scenario.  I’m not counting on dreams to come true, though.</p>
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