I’m really not quite sure how you write a 16 page article on Rudy Giuliani at this point and don’t mention the firefighters, but somehow one has appeared in the New Yorker. I suppose it’s more remarkable, though, for what it does cover. As Sam Boyd notes over at TAPPED today in a post aptly titled “Rudy Giluliani Will Kill Us All,” the foreign policy team Rudy has assembled makes Dick Cheney look like Dennis Kucinich.
From the New Yorker article:
In June, I asked Giuliani what he was reading as he campaigned this summer. He answered, “Right now, I’m on the last chapter of Norman Podhoretz’s book ‘World War IV.’ ” Podhoretz (John Podhoretz’s father) is a totemic neoconservative, one of the early group of liberal American political thinkers who broke with the left during the Cold War. Having awakened to the Soviet danger abroad, and to the excesses of the counterculture at home, Podhoretz could now see, with hyper-clarity, the world’s array of malevolent forces, against which stood America, faced always with a Manichean choice between all-out victory and total catastrophe. After the attacks of September 11th, Podhoretz, the editor-at-large of Commentary, was among those who cast the event as part of a life-or-death global war. The construct was adopted by President Bush and given the name Global War on Terror, with implications that soon became manifest. Podhoretz sees Iraq as but one front in the larger conflict. In an essay published this spring in Commentary, he made the case for a unilateral American air assault on Iran as the only way to prevent its otherwise inexorable drive to nuclear status and regional hegemony.
Earlier this month, Giuliani named Podhoretz a senior adviser on his foreign-policy team. (“Yep. It’s official,” the Atlantic blogger Andrew Sullivan wrote. “The bombing begins in five minutes.”) The addition of Podhoretz to the team was a dramatic political gesture by Giuliani, coming at a moment when the neoconservative agenda has been broadly discredited, and blamed for a misbegotten war. Podhoretz is so untempered a neocon that he makes Paul Wolfowitz, Bush’s former Deputy Defense Secretary, and a key architect of the Iraq invasion, seem almost a moderate realist. Podhoretz knows that he carries a certain political radioactivity. While he believes that Giuliani would follow his advice to bomb Iran before it gets nuclear weapons—Giuliani, like other candidates, has said that Iran must be kept out of the nuclear club—Podhoretz hasn’t asked him directly, because he doesn’t want to damage Giuliani’s candidacy with the inevitable controversy that an affirmative answer might arouse. Podhoretz, who is spending the summer in East Hampton, and communicates with the campaign by e-mail, has made his view clear to the candidate. When, recently, John McCain said that the only thing worse than bombing Iran is allowing Iran to get the bomb, Podhoretz told Giuliani, “I wish you had been the first to say that.”
In any case, Podhoretz said to me, he believes that George W. Bush will settle the matter himself, by bombing Iran before he leaves office. “I’m probably the only person on the face of the earth who thinks that Bush will order air strikes,” Podhoretz says. “But we’ll find out. If Bush doesn’t kick the can down the road, then the issue becomes moot, obviously. But if he fails to do what I think he will do, Rudy seems to me to be the best bet for doing what is necessary.”
Podhoretz joins, among others on the foreign-policy team, the conservative Middle East scholar Martin Kramer and Charles Hill, a Hoover fellow and one of the instructors in the Grand Strategy seminar at Yale. It is Hill’s thesis that the Islamic terrorists (“Islamofascists,” in Podhoretz’s term) are at war with the international system that has ordered the world since the Treaty of Westphalia, in 1648.
It is noteworthy that nobody seems to be asking Rudy about this stuff. Seeing as how the GOP YouTube debate is back on maybe some enterprising videographer might take it upon themselves to pose these questions? I think we’d all like to hear what Rudy had to say.
Related posts:
- ‘Worse Than Doing Nothing at All’
- Second Iranian Nuclear Facility Discovered; Obama, Brown, Sarkozy Pledge Sanctions Unless IAEA is Allowed to Investigate
- John Kyl and Richard Perle: Nuclear Weapons Keep the World Safe, Except When People We Don’t Like Have Them
- Carper’s Trigger: An Idea Goes from Bad to Worse
- Worse Than Nothing: Carper’s “Alternative”





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Jane!
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If you want to see Norman Podheretz speak in public, you can catch him at the 92nd Street Y in NYC on January 10.
I can also see a President Giuliani tapping Lieberman for something like Secretary of Defense. Or perhaps Secretary of State, or maybe ambassador to the Middle East. Or even AG.
Ghouliani was spooky enough before this fuckery! One can only hope he is promptly disposed of once and for all!!!
there is just so *much* shit out there on Ghouliani that the public doesn’t yet know about, that I can’t help hoping he does get the R nomination, and *then* the info hits the public consciousness. (insert sound of bombs dropping). Until then – ssshhhhhh…..
Tonight guests on pbs to talk about Rove, David Gergen and Mark Halperin. fair and balanced
If Giuliani and Podhoretz weren’t acting like they were in th middle of a really bad acid trip, I’d swear they were on musrooms.
The only way Bush can keep the GOP in the white house for another 4 years is if he starts a war with Iran.
Giuliani is truly a nightmare candidate. He seems to embody everything awful about Bush and Rove, while being an active authoritarian, as opposed to Bush’s lazy “gosh, I wish someone would make me dictator” flavor.
Marcus Aurelius @ 9
Certainly deluded in any case!!!
You know, if your biggest ambition is to just blow stuff up you should get a job setting off fireworks or something. It sure isn’t a sane attitude in a presidential candidate. Rudy is one scary piece of work.
Marcus Aurelius @ 9
If Giuliani and Podhoretz weren’t acting like they were in th middle of a really bad acid trip, I’d swear they were on musrooms.
Maybe they’ll convince each other that they can fly.
cancer_cures @ 10
Republics will also try to make the election about school prayer, gay marriage, or any other social issue they keep handy for elections.
Could America be in for yet another RudE awakening?
An involuntary “Oh God” escaped my lips! And I am an avowed disbeliever…
“It is noteworthy that nobody seems to be asking Rudy about this stuff.”
Not unexpected. In Repugs circles, this is like asking if you’re white.
In MSM circles, this is like asking…ahmmm…asking if Repugs are white.
I do believe Bush will strike Iran in a Hail Mary attempt to change the ‘08 electoral dynamic, probably at Rove’s advice. The Caucasian lizard brain will default to the thuggish white male candidate.
Rudy is dangerous. I will not want to live here if he becomes president.
JPL @ 8
Actually, Gergen was devastating, and Halperin, who tried to be kinder to rove, wound up agreeing with Gergen, who always thought Rove was a villain in the WH. Gergen is old school and thinks rove was way over the line.
Faster Faster Pussycat, Kill, Kill.
Thats all they know, these freaks.
I’m surprised Richard Pearl wasn’t in line.
LS @ 20
I am already taking the appropriate precautions along those lines….
OT – Cal Ripken, Jr. is now U.S. Goodwill Ambassador.
GWB – “If we can’t teach ‘em democracy – we’ll teach ‘em – baseball! Brilliant! Nobody likes soccer anyway.”
The no-Rove era begins.
Bwahahahaha…”Americans are too fat to be drafted!!” 40% would be unfit.
The interesting thing about Rudy’s statements wrt to terrorism and his choice of advisers is that it will free up the Dem candidate, eg Hillary to run to his left and call him a nut. This can only help the Dems in 2008.
cancer_cures @ 10
I don’t think so. Remember, they wanted to invade Iraq for years before they got into office, and they spent months building up a bogus public case for it after 9/11 gave them the chance. They’ve been pimping the bogus “Iran is behind the resistance in Iraq” line for months now, and even though it’s become accepted truth in the corporate media, the followup idea that we have to attack because they’re a threat to our forces in Iraq (as opposed to being a threat to us) doesn’t seem to be catching fire when most people don’t want our forces to be in Iraq any more.
If Bush attacks Iran with a flimsy buildup like that, it’ll be seen as more insane cowboy foreign policy and won’t rally the country behind him. And since the GOP candidates are competing to see who can be the most insane cowboy to win the Republican base, it won’t help them separate themselves from a president who’s tremendously unpopular with everyone except the Republican base. And it won’t help that it’s widely known that attacking Iran has been pushed by Cheney, who’s even more insane and unpopular than Bush.
Scarecrow @ 21
If Gergen was devastating, think how much better an actual Democrat would have been!
petedownunder @ 23
Aren’t you already…down under?
Another pod.
Jane, are you coming out for Happy Hour Friday at Old Ebbitt?
It seems we have some something to celebrate now.
Everyone in the DC area, Beer Thirty at Old Ebbitt Grill near the White House this Friday.
Your papers please?
jayt @ 24
Bids for supplying broken bats and defective catcher’s gear are now being solicited.
*xyz @ 28
True, but then that would have been just “partisan” attacks, whereas Gergen basically said Rove implemented a mean, extremist form of partisanship, trying not just to win but to destroy — this violates Gergen’s sense of what governance is all about.
They might have had another panel of elected officials, one Dem (Durbin, Leahy) and one Republican (who might also be pissed at Rove wrt immigration and the 2008 losses.
Why is Jane in DC? Is there a hearing going on that I don’t know about?
jayt @ 33
Bids? What are those? *g*
Milan River @ 35
Jane’s living in the DC area now.
Redshift @ 27
Even if it were true that Iran is helping out the Iraqi Shites, can you really blame them? Suppose China invaded Mexico or Canada. We’d help out, wouldn’t we?
How bad could he be….Podhoretz was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by George W. Bush [June 2004].
Read the light version of the Imperial fantasy in today’s NYT editorial. The Conventional Wisdom it represents still does not accept the military defeat that has actually happened.
If, god forbid, Guiliani were to become President with Podhoretz as his inspiration, the whole world really would be against us. This time there would be no doubt as to where we really stand. I think even Israel would hedge its bets.
Redshift @ 27
Besides all that, the economic backlash of Iran’s follow on attack on Saudi, Kuwaiti, Dubai’s, etal, oil fields and refineries would cripple the world’s oil supplies and force drastic action within the world and the US to atone for such megalomaniac behavior!!!
Probably already posted but, if not, here you go
Video Surfaces of Cheney, in 1994, Warning That An Invasion of Iraq Would Lead to ‘Quagmire’
youtube below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BEsZMvrq-I
I could definitely not accept Empress Judy either.
She’s an idjit and he’s a serial cheater.
OT- but what is Reid planning to give away now? Instead of actually keeping the Senate from recessing by having people show up every few days, pro-forma, Reid lets Bush call the shots. This is absurd!
From TPMmuckraker
Last recess, the White House made a number of controversial recess appointments, including Swift Boat backer Sam Fox as ambassador to Belgium. In order to prevent that sort of thing from happening again, Reid had plotted to keep the Senate in “pro forma” session during the recess — whereby the Senate floor personnel show up every three days to make it an official session. But now Reid and Bush have made a deal, according to Roll Call. Bush won’t make any recess appointments and Reid has promised to move some of his nominees when Senate gets back in session.
*xyz @ 28
Actually, its better coming from Gergen, because it will be perceived by the public as more credible than if a Democrat had said it.
Bob in HI
john in sacramento @ 42
It made it onto CNN today!
LS @ 29
Ding. But I’m not a permanent resident, yet.
BTW, the Quagmire video is flying all over the net. A friend of ours, who is not usually political, sent it to us. That is a good sign.
Rudolf is, to me, the epitome of sleaze, lacking only the “I’m For Sale” ‘T’ Shirt. No place is too low for him to go to pick up the dollar.
If Liberal was “in” he would be sucking up to Chomsky big time and licking Ben & Jerry ice cream. He is very much the male variant of Hillary.
john in sacramento @ 42
Where was this video in 2003, 2004, 2005, AND 2006?
petedownunder @ 47
Oh, I see. I was going to say, how much further away could you go!?
OT: I was trapped in a waiting room this morning, and having run out of my own stuff to work on and read, I picked up the copy of last week’s Time magazine that was lying around. Man, I knew Time had gone downhill from the old days (what with Joke Line and all), but even so, I had no idea! What a crapfest from cover to cover!
(Klein was still the worst, of course, with a fact-free column about the wonders of the DLC, and how awful it is that we’re trying to run them out of the party.)
As the great General Petraeus leads the surge into a bloodbath, he has only himself to blame. While commanding Iraqi training 190,000 AK47’s were lost by General Petraeus. But there is a flood of illegal weapons being purchased by Iraq with US taxpayer money. Another 100,000 were secretly bought in Italy, Operation Parabellum. A new weapons deal through Britain has just been revealed. This secret deal involes only 40,000 assault rifles. The Terrorist Surveillance Program is supposed to prevent secret weapons deals. But it seems TSP has been permitting these deals that transfer weapons to “insurgents”.
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The government was facing awkward questions last night over an arms deal involving a British company licensed by the Department of Trade and Industry to import weapons but which was also selling machine guns to an Iraqi official later implicated in an alleged $1.1bn (£545m) corruption scandal.
PMS was licensed by the DTI, now known as the Department for Business Enterprise and Regulatory Reform (BERR), to import at least 40,000 assault rifles and AK-47s to Britain from the former Yugoslavia.
Last night the department declined to shed light on whether it knew that, in 2005, PMS also had at least one contract to supply some 300 7.62mm light-machineguns from the former Yugoslavia to Cattan at the Iraq Defence Ministry. Until mid-2005, Cattan, who used to run a pizza parlour in Poland, was responsible for overseeing the importation of weapons into Iraq. A warrant has been issued for his arrest amid allegations he illegally made millions of dollars in corrupt deals.
There is no Foreign Office record of any British company being granted a licence to transport guns between Bosnia and Baghdad.
SeamusD @ 44
Typical Harry Reid giving something away for nothing. It’s a real shame that Durbin isn’t the Majority Leader. Harry Reid is a walking talking definition of lame.
Hugh @ 54
They have one thing they both know about each other that can work as leverage…Abramoff.
OT – but I know Pam is a favorite of Trex’s!!
Link
Elliott @ 50
It would have been especially helpful in 2002, before the vote on the AUMF. A responsible press, and a vertebrate Democratic party, would have found it then.
Bob in HI
I too am horrified at the thought of that fascist becoming President. But…I don’t see Guliani making it through the southern primaries. Hell, he’s not going to win Iowa. He’s not going to beat the governor of Massachusetts in New Hampshire. By the time the race moves south, he’ll already be 0 for 2 and have the stink of loserdom about him. I mean, c’mon. GOP primary voters who didn’t vote for McCain because of the mixed race child rumor are not going to be thrilled with the freakin’ MAYOR of NEW YORK and his untrustworthy pro-fetus credentials and many wives. He might as well be an alderman from Gomorrah as far as the South Carolina GOP primary voters are concerned.
cleter @ 58
Hardcore goopers in Texas like him.
Hugh @ 54
It’s like he can’t get enough abuse, keeps coming back for more, expecting something different for the same behavior.
SeamusD @ 44
Heh, I think the first commenter summed it up beautifully, in that, nobody is willing to step forward for the potential recess appointments!!!
All the talk about baseball- we need an infusion of integrity into the great American pastime rather than anything Chimpy could bring to it. We don’t want baseball turning into total sh*t too. If he does darken the door step of baseball, we need to buy tickets for injured Iraq vets so they can enjoy all the games and maybe wave to Bush while he sits in his buffered air conditioned box.
LS @ 46
And it made it onto FDL yesterday morning…
AZ Matt @ 56
Trex did a post on this for LateNiteFDL last week sometime.
LS @ 59
Well, they make like his commitment to fascism, but in the privacy of the voting booth, are they going to vote for him? GOP Southerners I know look upon him with a mistrust second only to that of Romney.
Followed this site for three years now. Lately on a daily basis. Very rarely comment as others say it better than I. My thanks especially to Jane, Christy and all who post. Also to those who comment, such a wonderful range in age and ideas.
As to this particular post. It amazes me that
the choice of candidates is such that it is. Most have that ‘juvenile sandbox mentality’, the one that thinks they can conduct another ‘Great Game’. It seems they think they can pull it off and retire into the sunset, surrounded with piles of gold and much adulation.
(sigh). – Please keep it up FDL.
cleter @ 65
God, I hope they see the light by then. I don’t actually think it will be Rudy. More likely Fred Thompson or even Huckabee by the time the nomination actually happens.
Schuster on Hardball.
Looking at the Republican field, it amazes me how far a crackpot can make it in American politics even after the horrendous experience of George Bush.
State of emergency in Hawaii. Wish everyone well over there.
Elliott @ 50
Or these [scroll down and click on the pics]
Tommy Thompson announced his withdrawal from the Republican Presidential race. Maybe Karl Rove resigned today to cover up this momentous event. *g*
is the kool aid a tad bit stronger these days, does bombing and killing people avail anything at all..no, of course not, a list of all the people we have bombed reads like a list of trading partners today from Germany to Japan to Vietnam to China(Korean war). Yesterday we bombed you, today we buy your goods..what total and utter fucking insanity.
Giuliani: Worse Than Bush
He’s cashing in on 9/11, working with Karl Rove’s henchmen and in cahoots with a Swift Boat-style attack on Hillary. Will Rudy Giuliani be Bush III?
Matt TaibbiPosted May 31, 2007 8:59 AM
http://www.rollingstone.com/po….._than_bush
By the South Carolina primary, if Rudy is still a threat, somebody–Thompson, Brownback, somebody– will be running ads showing Rudy morphing into Hillary, while that solemn announcer guy intones, “another pro-abortion New Yorker. Guilani. Wrong for America.”
The U.S., as an experiment, is over.
Every person for himself or herself.
Destruction of the middle class.
Clinton vs. Giuliani.
No, as a nation, we are not now capable of doing better.
Time to begin thinking about what takes the place of the U.S. The U.S. as the ideal all of us here once knew.
Marcy’s got a new one up on the people who have left this administration.
Maddy @73
Exactly.
I go out to lunch and a little R&R and make the mistake of reading the newspapers, on line. When people have such gigantic egos that it is the total sum of all their parts, some truly hilarious self-imagery emerges. Karl compares himself to Moby Dick. Huh? Oh, Karl, how esoteric. How about just plain dick? Yep, you are a dick (little “d”).
john in sacramento @ 71
and from 2005,
tsk
john in sacramento @ 71
Great! They need to be put out all over the place too!
Here comes the Quagmire video again on CNN (after the tease)..they introduced it as “the video that seems to put the VP at odds with himself”.
CNN playing the Cheney quagmire video story again…
I think the fix is in as to the next Repug candidate. It really doesn’t matter who the actor is just so he plays by the NeoCon Corporate capitalists rules. Do I have proof on this one? Nope. Just following their pattern over a few decades. Some things never change just the cast of characters.
twolf1 @ 82
are they presenting it wholly anti-Cheney? or is it sympathetic in any way?
And now all the big brains are saying Rove will earn bazillions on the lecture circuit. We may be a nation of laws. But we are far from a country of justice.
QuakerGirl @ 83
You mean like the Democrats?
Are three branches of government and oversight set up by the founding fathers too hard for some administrations?
Elliott @ 84
JC Watts is providing all the excuses…
Rove has to feel lucky he isn’t a disgracedofficial from, China say.
Chinese Executive Kills Self Amid Recall
Though the report did not give a reason for Cheung’s apparent suicide – and the company declined to discuss the matter – Lee Der was under pressure in a global controversy over the safety of Chinese made products. It is common for disgraced officials to commit suicide in China.
twolf1 @ 88
thanks, that gives me the pic!
There are eighteen days left in August for Chernoff’s gut feeling to make history.
Eureka Springs @ 86
Oh my dear, absolutely.
I believe there is more pressure to attack Iran now than there was even a month ago. And there are one or possibly two Democratic candidates for president who might be also tempted to attack Iran and/or Pakistan.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 93
Who’s your take on this one, OKK? Always appreciate what you have to say.
QuakerGirl @ 91
Not sure how accurate it is but …
google Chertoff son of the devil and see what comes up.
“Seeing as how the GOP YouTube debate is back on maybe some enterprising videographer might take it upon themselves to pose these questions?”
Jane,
Since you brought the subject up, I have a suggestion.
Time for another Firedoglake contest! Yipee!
Let’s have a Firedoglake contest to pick the 10 best questions to ask the Repug 08 critters on YouTube.
I’ll go first with a simple Yes or No answer required:
Have you stopped masturbatin’ to pictures of Nancy Reagan?
Recall the DLC strongly supported the Iraq attack. And when Ford (DLC head) talks about how great is his fondness for the “Center”, I become uncomfortable.
On Chertoff fart in the form of an exploding backpack on US soil will be instantly blamed on Iran. They won’t even try to blame AQ. JMHO
J.C. Watts father said “A Black man supporting a Republican is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.
-GSD
LS @ 98
“One” I missed it, my keyboard keeps sticking.
LS @ 70
I’m assuming that you must be referring to Hurricane Flossie? It is on a path to pass about 100 miles south of Big Island (Island of Hawaii), which is on Hurricane Watch status. Schools on that island have been cancelled for the next few days.
If the storm continues on its present track, it should travel well south of the other islands, but it could always decide to veer north. The weather site linked above is a good place to keep an eye on it.
Bob in HI
I don’t think Rove and Bush and Cheney are going to enjoy their retirement.
-GSD
bobschacht @ 101
I’m in Texas, and I heard there is something building in the islands possibly entering the Gulf with one model having it hit the TX coast toward the end of the week. Good luck! I hope Flossie stays south.
john in sacramento @ 95
Oops, sorry for the misspell on the name “t” to replace “d”.
I just did. That is scary. Anyone with Russian background here? Is his name really “devil” translated into English? There are more Princes of Darkness in the Bush Regime than I thought were on the entire planet.
QuakerGirl @ 104
He doesn’t seem to eat food.
I watched all the stump speeches by the GOP candidates at the Iowa straw poll on C-Span just out of curiosity. It’s obvious by what each candidate said that they would be a continuation of the Bush presidency, on religion, taxation, overturn Roe vs. Wade, ect. ect. What they did’nt say, any criticism what so ever of the Bush administration foriegn policy, was more telling what a republican in the White house in 2008 would bring. I was trying to catch whatever I could of the panel discussions from YKOS they were showing late at night and the Iowa straw poll speeches was what I got. Ha!
LS @ 103
Thanks! May all your hurricanes stay south, too, and dissipate before landing!
Bob in HI
GSD @ 99
Julius Caesar Watts’s father is no fool and knows his chicken, but could he run the wishbone?
What brings happiness?
Answer: Affirmation that what one says or believes is true.
To find truth, let us not seek happiness.
Hawaii folks – if you have any way of doing it without causing a problem to yourselves, keep us in the loop on local news. It is amazing how different that is from national news.
Take good care and we are thinking good thoughts for the islands.
Jonathan @ 108
Well said.
In Florida, I’ve overheard goopers at the bar saying nice things about Rudy.
Anybody know the name of N=1 site? I have a medicare issue. Doctors in Florida are requiring cash payment up front from Medicare patients (on the spot) thus requiring the patient to pursue reimbursement from medicare. Isn’t that illegal? (Not that it matters in winger christian rethugworld.)
Here is a detailed examination of mercenaries operating in Iraq. These 200,000 “contractors and the billions of dollars that fund them , are not accountable.
What is amazing, the military cannot protect its own commanders. MERCENARIES ARE USED TO PROTECT UNITED STATES GENERALS INCLUDING PETRAEUS.
___________________
Since the launch of the “global war on terror,” the administration has systematically funneled billions of dollars in public money to corporations like Blackwater USA , DynCorp, Triple Canopy, Erinys and ArmorGroup. They have in turn used their lucrative government pay-outs to build up the infrastructure and reach of private armies so powerful that they rival or outgun some nation’s militaries.
These services are provided through companies like KBR and Fluor and through their vast labyrinth of subcontractors. But many other private personnel are also engaged in armed combat and “security” operations. They interrogate prisoners, gather intelligence, operate rendition flights, protect senior occupation officials and, in at least one case, have commanded U.S. and international troops in battle.
In a revealing admission, Gen. David Petraeus, who is overseeing Bush’s troop “surge,” said earlier this year that he has, at times, been guarded in Iraq by “contract security.” At least three U.S. commanding generals, not including Petraeus, are currently being guarded in Iraq by hired guns.
ccmask @ 89
Either that or they get taken out and shot in the head.
hackworth @ 112
Universal Health
Mad Dogs @ 96
Or Ronnie. EEEEuuuuu.
QuakerGirl @ 94
Let me say this perhaps. When I think ‘peace candidates’, the names Sen. Clinton and Sen. Obama do not necessarily come to the fore. And Mr. Cheney is stepping up the pressure to attack Iran. Mr. Obama has spoken of going into Pakistan I believe. ;0)
hackworth @ 112
http://universalhealth.wordpress.com/
When Cortez first landed in Mexico- the first thing he did was to burn his ships- so that his men had no option but to fight their way back home- there was no retreat.
Cheney would love to do the same thing- to create a “no return” event that would preclude a future prez from ever changing course- would a full scale conflict with Iran accomplish that?
marymccurnin @ 116
Double EEEEuuuuu! But remember, dead men tell no tales. *g*
Frank33 @ 112
Thank you for this information. Just Triple Canopy alone – Amazingly they earned 100M in their first year of operation. The only way that happens is if you have multiple millions setting up the business and insiders giving you business. With most any company their is a link to their executive staff where you can read their bios. Not these guys. You have to log in to get it. They came into existence Sept. 2003. Bet they started long before that.
Political parties in the year 3000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XhcV9ilalg
I wonder if the goopers who go for Rudy are those who have seen the many different photos of Dame Rudy all prettied up or those who have not.
Maybe we should make a list of Democrats running for Prez who we think are genuine about diplomacy over bombing. I think that would be a short list. Frank33 @112 has done some valuable homework. Check out these companies and their executive staff. We fund their existence.
We are waiting.
Maybe there is a prize for being last too.
We shall see.
QuakerGirl @ 124
It is not homework. It is therapy. As far as bombing versus displomacy, it is still a violation of international law to wage a war of aggression. But Wars of Aggression can be VERY PROFITABLE.
I am also getting some paranoid ideas about why “mercenaries” would protect military generals. Maybe they are part of TSF, except they are spying on generals and keeping them in Darth’s control.
QuakerGirl @ 110
Thanks! CTuttle is probably battening down his hatches about now.
Bob in HI
As if you folks know or care about Dennis Kucinich, other than to use him as your whipping boy, when he actually stands for everything you pseudo-progressives believe in.
You think Bree Walker was doing a great thing when she purchased Cindy Sheehan’s Crawford property? Guess who Bree was stumping for yesterday in San Diego? But CNN told us that Hillary is “likeable”. That’s not political. That’s American Idol for the moderate wing of the Democratic Party. Wake up and support the ONE candidate who represents you.
The firefighters have gotten no coverage of their complaints about the Plunger compared to the media time given to the swiftboaters –for example –for all intent and purpose they were living in Scarborough Country
According to Tweety, Rudolph’s willingness to kill us all is what makes “middle America” love him
As for General Betrayous…big fat liar for Shrub.
cleter @ 58
With Thompson as VP and Lie–man as Sec Def and shrub claiming that Rudy has been saved, his chances look fairly
good. Like little georgie he has seen the light and will be a newMan??? if he is chosen to replace the current dictator.My take on the Rove departure announcement is that the president looked refreshed and ready to lead secure in the knowledge that the controlled opposition will not present a challenge.
QuakerGirl @ 83
Seems to me that it does matter who the actor is. He must be really dumb. There are many to choose from this time. Four of them don’t believe in evolution nor any of that other science stuff.
any psychiatric nurse will disagree with you when you suggest that being around severely imbalanced people will affect you and subject you to illness yourself. continuing to attempt to justify such people with reason and logic leaves you without either.
they will go away on their own. most of them will burst their own balloon as they try to fill it with their hot air.
Scarecrow @ 26
what if she tries to run to his right, in order to appear ‘tough on terra’?
she has huge negatives on the right and the left, and the undecided middle would not be convinced of her triangulated toughness.
she could lose with this strategy, and do you really think she will run as anything remotely ‘left’?
nuclear first strike against Iran is ‘on the table’ with her, ffs.
Elliott @ 50
It’s like the Rather special on tomorrow night about electronic voting machines, it’s CYA, it’s too late and interestingly it seems to indicate everybody has given up on the Bush administration and isn’t just b.s.ing any more. We’ll probably see some other MSM finally telling the truth in the coming days.
The Bush era is virtually over.
cancer_cures @ 10
Or if they cheat to win again.
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=4953#more-4953
Chris Matthews sent another valentine to Rudy tonight. It’s obvious that Matthews, who by his own admission, grew up in a Republican home, is now the prodigal son heading back to the GOP, as he has been promoting Rudy for months now. He repeatedly speaks of the Christian conservatives willingness to ovelook Rudy’s stands on abortion and gay rights. But what if the Catholic Church is unwilling to overlook not only Rudy’s stand on abortion and gay rights, but also his three marriages? Will Matthews, a Catholic, be willing to overlook these issues as well?
This is way EPU’d but I just have to comment on this crap. This guy is smoking rope if he thinks he is the only person on the planet that thinks this. To wit:
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…Bush will settle the matter himself, by bombing Iran before he leaves office. “I’m probably the only person on the face of the earth who thinks that Bush will order air strikes,”
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I certainly believe that George will commit some blunder that will involve killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people by trying to bomb Iran back to the stone age. It’s in his agenda. Says so right there on page three.