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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/13/from-the-desk-of-sen-pat-leahy/#comment-893860</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-893014&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;rwcole @ 162&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Pentagon says definately “no” to draft. Prefers killin “volunteers”.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sounds like an Onion headline — Military Killing Volunteers!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-893014"><em>rwcole @ 162</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Pentagon says definately “no” to draft. Prefers killin “volunteers”.</p>
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<p>Sounds like an Onion headline — Military Killing Volunteers!</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/13/from-the-desk-of-sen-pat-leahy/#comment-893845</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-892946&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;casual observer @ 98&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;… in my opinion it is, especially when the Democratic party has made an issue of country over party.  Citizens of the left-0-sphere (with which I self-identify) have no difficulty in condemning the Republicans &lt;em&gt;as a party.&lt;/em&gt;  If this logic serves for one side, why should it not serve for the other?  Do the democrats stand for something?  Or is it simply a group of individuals, and nothing more.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In past years it wouldn’t have been so easy to criticize the Republicans as a party. Now, since the Reagan Revolution and since they’ve talked about a ‘permanent majority’ and since they’ve lied us into war and stuck together to protect their president even knowing he lied, there is no other way to face the problem. We have to talk about the group which stands together and this year it’s the ENTIRE Republican party (including every single Republican candidate for president) standing up for Bush and against America.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fortunately, we outnumber them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In another blog conversation I used Liberal to refer to support for our Constitutional form of Republic. Someone asked if I wasn’t taking the meaning of “liberal” a bit far. I said that today the Republicans are virtually rebelling against the entire Liberal movement of Western Civilization (away from monarchs and toward democratic representative government). That still seems true.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The public never did realize the sincerity with which the Republican politicians referred to the Reagan Revolution. The words seemed metaphorical, but today they seem oh so true. When Grover Norquist said he wanted the government to be weak enough to be drown in a bathtub and all Republicans nod their heads in agreement then you’d better believe they truly do support the sociopath nihilist anarchist George W. Bush.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Democrats all stand together in support of the U.S. Constitution.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-892946"><em>casual observer @ 98</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>… in my opinion it is, especially when the Democratic party has made an issue of country over party.  Citizens of the left-0-sphere (with which I self-identify) have no difficulty in condemning the Republicans <em>as a party.</em>  If this logic serves for one side, why should it not serve for the other?  Do the democrats stand for something?  Or is it simply a group of individuals, and nothing more.</p>
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<p>In past years it wouldn’t have been so easy to criticize the Republicans as a party. Now, since the Reagan Revolution and since they’ve talked about a ‘permanent majority’ and since they’ve lied us into war and stuck together to protect their president even knowing he lied, there is no other way to face the problem. We have to talk about the group which stands together and this year it’s the ENTIRE Republican party (including every single Republican candidate for president) standing up for Bush and against America.</p>
<p>Fortunately, we outnumber them.</p>
<p>In another blog conversation I used Liberal to refer to support for our Constitutional form of Republic. Someone asked if I wasn’t taking the meaning of “liberal” a bit far. I said that today the Republicans are virtually rebelling against the entire Liberal movement of Western Civilization (away from monarchs and toward democratic representative government). That still seems true.</p>
<p>The public never did realize the sincerity with which the Republican politicians referred to the Reagan Revolution. The words seemed metaphorical, but today they seem oh so true. When Grover Norquist said he wanted the government to be weak enough to be drown in a bathtub and all Republicans nod their heads in agreement then you’d better believe they truly do support the sociopath nihilist anarchist George W. Bush.</p>
<p>Democrats all stand together in support of the U.S. Constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/13/from-the-desk-of-sen-pat-leahy/#comment-893824</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-892846&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;randiego @ 16&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;A truly great day.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OT - I missed the whole Kos v DLC takedown. Anybody got a link to a decent summary?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Same ol same ol. Ford said the DLCers could win because they were centrist. Kos said DLCers didn’t build the party and we needed better leadership. They were a bit testy towards one another. I think they really represented the current fight between Clinton &amp; Edwards. Do we need to stay centrist or can we do better moving a bit to the left to get better leadership. Tis a serious question the voters will decide.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-892846"><em>randiego @ 16</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>A truly great day.</p>
<p>OT &#8211; I missed the whole Kos v DLC takedown. Anybody got a link to a decent summary?</p>
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<p>Same ol same ol. Ford said the DLCers could win because they were centrist. Kos said DLCers didn’t build the party and we needed better leadership. They were a bit testy towards one another. I think they really represented the current fight between Clinton &amp; Edwards. Do we need to stay centrist or can we do better moving a bit to the left to get better leadership. Tis a serious question the voters will decide.</p>
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		<title>By: barrelhse</title>
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		<dc:creator>barrelhse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe the cloud can envelop him, but envelope? W&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the cloud can envelop him, but envelope? W</p>
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		<title>By: Mabel&#8217;s Wig Shack</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/13/from-the-desk-of-sen-pat-leahy/#comment-893420</link>
		<dc:creator>Mabel&#8217;s Wig Shack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 22:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-893034&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Audrey @ 179&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-893013&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;johnSwifty @ 158&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gotcha.  I don’t really know what Maryam’s argument was, other than truly righteous indignation.  I will say, though, that I am usually cautious with any argument that is either black or white; with us or against us.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That is the arena of the conservative mind.  As a dyed in the wool liberal, I must leave room for shades of gray in order to retain my membership card.  To every yin, there’s a bit of yang and all that crap, doncha know.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t think it’s a good idea to compare Maryam’s position to any position born of logic or even outrage that we might hold. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you say, “Maryam is speaking from an all-encompassing rage born of absolute grief and horror orders of magnitude beyond anything we have experienced” that might come close. I’m likely to allow her that and not include it in discussions of bad rhetoric.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;americans should just hand their heads in shame not lecture somebody being cut to pieces.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-893034"><em>Audrey @ 179</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-893013"><em>johnSwifty @ 158</em></a></p>
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<p>Gotcha.  I don’t really know what Maryam’s argument was, other than truly righteous indignation.  I will say, though, that I am usually cautious with any argument that is either black or white; with us or against us.</p>
<p>That is the arena of the conservative mind.  As a dyed in the wool liberal, I must leave room for shades of gray in order to retain my membership card.  To every yin, there’s a bit of yang and all that crap, doncha know.</p>
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<p>I don’t think it’s a good idea to compare Maryam’s position to any position born of logic or even outrage that we might hold. </p>
<p>If you say, “Maryam is speaking from an all-encompassing rage born of absolute grief and horror orders of magnitude beyond anything we have experienced” that might come close. I’m likely to allow her that and not include it in discussions of bad rhetoric.</p>
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<p>americans should just hand their heads in shame not lecture somebody being cut to pieces.</p>
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		<title>By: webecelts</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/13/from-the-desk-of-sen-pat-leahy/#comment-893340</link>
		<dc:creator>webecelts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Dems are powerless. they have painted themselves into a corner, if they try to impeach, LIEBERMAN will jump over to the republican side and the Dems will lose all the chairmanships of the committees thus ending the the investigations.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dems are powerless. they have painted themselves into a corner, if they try to impeach, LIEBERMAN will jump over to the republican side and the Dems will lose all the chairmanships of the committees thus ending the the investigations.</p>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
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		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-892909&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Hugh @ 67&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-892904&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;AZ Matt @ 62&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2007/08/13/BL2007081300739.html&quot;&gt;Froomkin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well that and that they were crooks and morons&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What saved the U.S. from Soviet-style one-party rule were some Sunni kids in Baghdad and elsewhere who were willing to lay down their lives to stop the neocon juggernaut.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-892909"><em>Hugh @ 67</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-892904"><em>AZ Matt @ 62</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2007/08/13/BL2007081300739.html">Froomkin</a></p>
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<p>Well that and that they were crooks and morons</p>
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<p>What saved the U.S. from Soviet-style one-party rule were some Sunni kids in Baghdad and elsewhere who were willing to lay down their lives to stop the neocon juggernaut.</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/13/from-the-desk-of-sen-pat-leahy/#comment-893265</link>
		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-893227&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bluetoe @ 196&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-892842&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LS @ 12&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Could Pelosi have made a deal? Rove for FISA.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sacrificing the Constitution to get at Rove?  If true that speaks volumes on why this current system is beyond repair and in need of something, well, revolutionary.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I want a Reformation (Restoration of the Constitution), not a revolution. The current crisis has come about through abandonment of the Constitution (e.g., Unitary Executive over-reach; lack of use of impeachment), not misuse of it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-893227"><em>Bluetoe @ 196</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-892842"><em>LS @ 12</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Could Pelosi have made a deal? Rove for FISA.</p>
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<p>Sacrificing the Constitution to get at Rove?  If true that speaks volumes on why this current system is beyond repair and in need of something, well, revolutionary.</p>
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<p>I want a Reformation (Restoration of the Constitution), not a revolution. The current crisis has come about through abandonment of the Constitution (e.g., Unitary Executive over-reach; lack of use of impeachment), not misuse of it.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It is amazing to see the departure of one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (Bush, Cheney, Rove and Gonzales). Of course, only time will tell what this means. I still think that impeachment of the other three is a civic and moral imperative.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is amazing to see the departure of one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (Bush, Cheney, Rove and Gonzales). Of course, only time will tell what this means. I still think that impeachment of the other three is a civic and moral imperative.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: Bluetoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bluetoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-892842&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LS @ 12&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Could Pelosi have made a deal? Rove for FISA.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sacrificing the Constitution to get at Rove?  If true that speaks volumes on why this current system is beyond repair and in need of something, well, revolutionary.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-892842"><em>LS @ 12</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Could Pelosi have made a deal? Rove for FISA.</p>
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<p>Sacrificing the Constitution to get at Rove?  If true that speaks volumes on why this current system is beyond repair and in need of something, well, revolutionary.</p>
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