Greg Sargent points us to Neil Cavuto’s plea to Democrats to stop treating Pox News like it has cooties. It’s kind of pitiful, really.
Best Cavuto quote: “Our offer still stands for any of them to come on this show at any time.” This is very good — a simple and elegant way for Dems to keep grinding the network’s nearly nonexistent credibility deeper and deeper into the dirt. Just keep saying, “Nope, sorry, not coming on. You’re a propaganda organ. End of story.” Is there any doubt from Cavuto’s plea that Fox realizes just how damaging this Dem boycott could prove in the long term?
Also priceless: The only Dem Fox could get to come on was…Gary Hart.
I’m sorry, Gary who?
From Elizabeth Edwards’ attacks on Ann Coulter to Chris Dodd flaying Bill O’Reilly in his own studio, this sort of pushback has now become an indispensable tool in the political arsenal of Democratic Presidential candidates. In essence, certain aspects of the media critique pushed for so many years in the lib blogosphere have very clearly now gone mainstream in Democratic politics. Without getting too Pollyannaish, this is a very good development — it amplifies the critique considerably, conceivably helping to force the mainstream dudes to tune into it a bit more.
Best of all, it’s making the Neil Cavutos of the world whimper and grovel. Let’s hope Dems don’t let up any time soon.
Isn’t this what we’ve been saying all along?
You know, if you didn’t go and watch Chris Dodd take Bill-O out behind the shed and wear him out with a two by four, it is required viewing. Thanks, Senator!
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hiya
2nd twice today
hiya!
LoudounLib @ 1
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 3
great minds think alike …
CNN-Radiological attack by Al Qaeda anticipated!!!
Hey Trex
lol newdeal ;-)
boing – reverse three-and-a-half somersaults, tuck position, directed splash lands all over the Bulgarian judge’s white linen suit
g’evening everyone – what was the friday night news dump this week?
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 4
So do dirty minds. :-)
Mitch! (clutching pearls)
;-)
Suzanne @ 8
Awww! You RUINED his straw hat!
I will be leaving soon, so I need to say this as early as possible. Big news –
So, TRex, how was your day? Glad it is Friday? Any plans for this weekend? When are you gonna go visit MamaRex again?
Hi all.
Hi MM. Did your Friday go well?
wow! Suzanne! a “directed splash”? You are gettin’ good!
THHUUUUUUH YANKEES WIN!
(Not so the Red Sox, whose lead has been cut down to 5 games. Yankees, in first place tie with Seattle in Wildcard race.)
BigMitch @ 16
Hang in there, Mitch – my Angels may beat Seattle tonight.
OldCoastie @ 15
just showing off a wee bit (grin)
I don’t think I’ll be happy with the Pox situation until I see O’Really in sackcloth and ashes, walking barefoot up and down 5th Avenue, chanting, “unclean, unclean, stay clear, unclean.”
Over and over and over again.
What kind of Fauxery is this?!?!
Pretty funny if no dem ever again comes onto Faux. “Fair and balanced”
TRex, do we have an e-mail address for Cavuto? I would love to send a nyah-nyah loser e-mail….
BigMitch @ 16
:P!!! (They still have the best record in the bigs!!!)
Can Faux make a go out of old Clusterfuck reruns when a dem takes the White House?
EvilDrPuma @ 20
oh, good one edp
BigMitch @ 9
so that’s why the GrossOldPerverts are all lock-stepped in a circle…
Laura Doty @ 14
The Bulgarian judge’s hat was cheap knockoff, serves him right.
My Friday was good Laura, thanks for asking. Had a great interview today, so hopefully the dry spell is broken.
Anyone in Iowa can ask Romney for bus fare to get to Ames to participate in the straw poll. When you get there you can let your conscience be your guide. Ron Paul’s supporters are exploiting this. Cute.
Good evening, all! Al The Spook here, finally having his life back in order to return to the lake.
Three new posts up at Ravings, please enjoy those who wish to:
http://spookinthemachine.blogs…..ed-by.html
http://spookinthemachine.blogs…..tomac.html
(this is the big one, a big update on the whole Cheney/Bush thing)
http://spookinthemachine.blogs…..d-see.html
I’ll be lurking but will try to post any helpful thoughts that wander by. I’ll try to do a Ravings post about my travails in a day or two. Bottom line is, we all survived and are doing better than before. In this life, it really doesn’t get any better than that.
Suzanne @ 25
We aim to please, and please to aim.
Millineryman @ 27
YES! May upcoming spells be as soggy as a Bulgarian judge’s hat. Or suit, when Suz’s around.
AK, so nice to see you!
BigMitch @ 16
for those of us who remain wilfully ignorant, i’m guessin this has to do with some kind of pro “sport”?
AL!!!! Good to see ya!
splishitysplash!
LoudounLib @ 32
Thanks. Will try to make late nights every night possible. can’t promise any more at present. and can’t stay for lln, gotta get my ugly sleep.
hey, and here’s lolo too :-)
Alfred!! We have missed you.
lolo @ 35
i thought that was for saturdays, lolo
wangdangdoodle @ 34
Thanks WDD!
Millineryman @ 27
oh i do hope so! good luck to you, friend!
EvilDrPuma @ 30
This reminds me of a time when I was in school. My roommate had a girlfriend who was the daughter of a Thai diplomat. His English was not very good. We went to his home for dinner once, and it was a comedy of manners. At his swimming pool there was a sign written if faux Yiddish characters. He probably thought it was a good luck charm or something. It said “Please do not piss in the pool.”
(What made me think of this was the sign over some toilets that says, “We aim to please. You aim, too, please.”)
Millineryman @ 27
fingers and toes crossed for ya, mm
Bildo can’t understand why Edwards won’t go on Fox. Youtttube link on http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/
Gotta run friends. Be nice to one another. See ya later.
BigMitch @ 45
bye big mitch. you should consider getting a hobby, like baseball. :)
Anyone lose money in the stock market?
BigMitch @ 45
fuck, i gotta be nice? dayam
Evening, gang. I have guests here right now. I’ll be around in a bit.
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 41
Thanks! It was for one of the prospects that fell through. The one involving forms.
So when I get home I had 2 swallowtails, a monarch, and 3 white butterflies visiting. It was a good day.
lolo @ 47
I’m sure my deferred comp. took a hit :-(
Trex: This post reminded me of what transpired in the office at work today. The UPS guy came to deliver some gate operators to us today and he noticed the Bush Watch on my belt loops of my jeans, It looks like a thin black calculator and counts down the days until Bush is gone (724 left). Anyhow, he says “Oh, you’re one of those Bush Haters.” So the plant manager says “Don’t tell me you still like Bush. Don’t you watch the news?” The UPS guys says yeah, I watch Fox News every night and I know all about you liberal bloggers….where is your patriotism?” He watched Fox for his news and listens to Limbaugh on the radio while he drives.
So my co-worker says to the UPS guy, “Ah, they’re all crooks!” (just to end the conversation and to slowly walk away from it……) And the guy responded, I swear, with “Yeah, one of them even had money in his freezer….”
I think that anyone right now who still toes the Bush line suffers from some sort of personality defect. They would rather cling to Bush than to admit, even to themselves!, that they were wrong about him.
althespook @ 29
hurrah! the Spook is back! (runs out, comes back with strings of tiki lights & extension cords, decorates tree limbs close to the Lake) Good to see you (and already read your new blog posts, looking forward to more) and glad to hear your life is back in order.
Suzanne @ 43
Thanks! I do appreciate it.
Special Announcement:
LoudounLib @ 51
You weren’t the only one. This crap is getting serious.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/081007R.shtml
lolo @ 47
I did. I am very nervous.
althespook @ 46
Why a smart Aleck, eh? Aloha, AK! Long time no see…!!!
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 53
NDFG, my blushes. I hope all is well with you too. I really appreciate all you did for TexB, she really needed that break at YKOS.
I’m glad enough to see Al back that I had to stop and go read his stuff. Good to see you again, and your insights!
Suzanne @ 48
*Gasp* Ya swore, Ma Cheri!!! WTF??? *g*
CTuttle @ 58
smart Alfred. we’re sneakier…and happy to be back!
Well a small link I just cant ask these question this guy poses. http://cache.libsyn.com/dancarlin/cswdcb01.mp3
But is Neil Cavuto black enough? Did Cavuto secretly attend a Islamo-fascist school that he is concealing? Is it not true that his actual name is “Neil Osama Cavuto? Does Neil, I mean Osama, surround himself with white people? These questions need to be answered.
Psssst…..Do Something
lolo @ 47
The markets situation is looking very seriously like the summer of 1929. Now is a good time to analyze and lower your risks, folks. Really.
Oh goodie. Albert has a fresh post up….
ccmask @ 66
‘Albert’???
Shadowstalker @ 60
Excuse me, my ego is demanding an agent. i have go go beat it with a Freudian Cigar.
And we need all the help we can get. I *think* Scowcroft nixed the false flag op, but if the world credit markets melt down that might be almost as bad. Try this on for size:
a) world financial meltdown. lots of unemployment, lost homes, whole families of middle and lower class people living in FEMA tents and trailers.
b) big messy terrorist attack (false flag or real)
c) the “camps” get out of control. Martial law is necessary to control them.
RIP, american democracy.
These fuckers are playing for keeps. we had better be too.
ccmask @ 66
Um, it’s *Alfred*. Albert is my pet alligator. i’m trying to get him to quit the cheap cigars, but Miz Hepzibah keeps egging him on….
CTuttle @ 67
Geez…I meant Alfred. What a dork I am.
althespook @ 68
That, they are…!!! 8-(
BigMitch @ 28
I wish this would happen more often. I am suprised someone like “Crazy” Tancredo isn’t doing it. Hell, has Duncan Hunter dropped out already?
Why would any one want to consider Faux Noiswe for anything other then being what it is the anus of the TV News World.
Even when given the news and it is reported (not manufactured or twisted as they do) and the same story runs on five different outlets these fantasy Morons can not get it right or they cut away to a celebrity report.
Do the Idiots at Faux Noise even read their won publishing or rerun them for review. Clowns who the hell can take these IDIOTS serious.
althespook @ 69
Pogo would be proud of you for trying, though.
ccmask @ 52
Next time you see that UPS guy, ask him if he knows how OxyCotin man avoided the draft during Vietnam.
montag @ 74
Ding!
CTuttle @ 5
Does hoping that said attack would sterilize untold numbers of wingnuts make me a bad person?
burnspbesq @ 77
It’s gonna be at RNC headquarters?
Suzanne @ 8
Admit it — you secretly have the hots for the Bulgarian judge. Petro and CT will be gutted by this revelation, but it’s time they woke up and smelled the bourbon.
burnspbesq @ 79
may all your ice cream turn into sour milk, burns
burnspbesq @ 77
LOL! I’ve kept searching for any link to it, nada! Soledad was reporting it on CNN, Feds are skeptical, it’s NYC elevating the alert status!!!
CTuttle @ 81
Rudy must be in town.
BigMitch @ 28
In 2000, GWB’s team bought 11,000 $35 tickets for attendees, required to cast a vote. Only 7,400 voted for W.
Hi Mr TRex, nice clip. Ya gotta give Gary Hart credit, though — “I’m sorry I’m not a bigwig.” At least he perpetuated the Fox-as-loser meme, even at his own expense.
CTuttle @ 81
Why bother with an attack when the rumor accomplishes everything a terrorist could want?
So I wish that a fare chance to all could be had for peace, but I feel that we can be a force, to quite the dogs, but the elite are not held to the same standard so how make this better? but their is no AVG no flying tigers. and no thought to how it was done.
Suzanne @ 82
Or, it would be a great means of keeping him away–at least until it was over….
This thread could use a little music.
Something sweet to start with…
burnspbesq @ 79
Bourbon! You insult Petro’s and my heritage, Rye, true whiskey!!! :P
EvilDrPuma @ 84
As Jane says, it’s chickenshittery !
wangdangdoodle @ 87
I always listen to Copland when I do FDL. Seems to fit somehow (reading a really good comment or posting to the “Lincoln Portrait” can bring tears to your eyes…)
sorry a flat thought for whats a 2d kind of thought.
This item just popped up on my sidebar
Twain @ 89
And BushCo and the right-wing media are the biggest chickenshits this country has ever known.
althespook @ 90
Partial to “Our Town” and “Fanfare for the Common Man,” m’self. Both apply. :)
LoudounLib @ 92
Unverified? Chickenshittery, indeed.
Is Bill O’Reilly WASPy enough? I don’t think so… otherwise, he wouldn’t be so defensive. Not enough of a stiff upper lip.
[/sarcasm]
wangdangdoodle @ 95
I tend to agree!
wangdangdoodle @ 87
Check out this version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL-uL2M3xvM
Breaking from McClatchy: Bush has no smoking gun to justify airstrikes against Iran. Also discusses political issues.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/18852.html
montag @ 74
gosh, i miss Pogo almost as much as Molly Ivins. “Nora’s riding on the trolley, Walla Walla Wash & Kalamazoo”! (might not be remembering those Xmas lyrics correctly…)
Karen M @ 96
It surprises me that the words “O’Reilly” and “stiff” in the same post don’t land one in moderation.
Karen M @ 96
Being Catholic, he’s forever denied true WASPdom. He does have a stiff upper lip, though. So much so that it goes all the way up into his brain.
But, he’s condemned to perdition. New money, y’know…. :)
Stumbled across this clip last night while looking for something else, and was completely blown away.
John Doe sings Joni Mitchell
Shadowstalker @ 65
Multi-state southern mortgage broker HomeBanc
Corp filed Ch 11 today. Web site says they’re a faith-based organization — guess it didn’t work out so well for them.
LoudounLib @ 92
Ah ha! I didn’t check out Yahoo…!!!
EvilDrPuma @ 101
707
montag @ 78
Spew alert! Gosh, you folks must know i was going to be drinking iced tea. Dang. gotta remember to keep paper towels handy for the monitor when i read late nite.
SunnyNobility @ 104
Umm, they were faith-based. That faith wasn’t in Jesus, however….
CTuttle @ 98
Oh, I like that one! KGSR plays it a lot. Or they used to, not so much anymore.
burnspbesq @ 103
burns, that rocks.
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 100
***
Very close…I believe it was “Norah’s freezing on the trolley…”
What with the season and all, I guess.
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 107
Sorry!
*tosses roll of paper towels*
lolo @ 47
Oh yeah.
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 107
I don’t mean to be crude, but given the known “romantic” habits of leading members of the Republican Party, I don’t think sterilization is needed, they don’t do any form of romance that could lead to pregnancy…
What stains are we willing bear how much do your thoughts and your profits conform. how many deaths are ok in your electric bill, and you are near the point of ending somethings that might upset you and what do you care about. damm
LoudounLib @ 110
Have you heard his latest album? Best work he’s done since X.
Can I make your garden grow?
Houses of the Holy – Led Zeppelin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwYc0BJcB4c
That’s funny. I have one, too, but mine says 528 left.
wangdangdoodle @ 109
He passed away a little while ago! RIP Bruddah IZ!!!
Well Fox News does have cooties. I pretty sure of it. That Gibson guy, Brillo, the all have cooties.
burnspbesq @ 116
I remember you mentioning it here a few days ago, and it sounds like I definitely need to check it out!
StarCraft VO @ 118
In case somebody else wants one:
http://www.topplebush.com/
http://cache.libsyn.com/dancarlin/cswdcb01.mp3
Hey TRex…sounds like the Dems are finally organizing around your strategy: Attack! Aattaackk!! AAAATTAAACKK!!!
Of course you are so much more eloquent at this than I am…
Thought of you earlier today, new Levenger catalog arrived. Sorely tempted to get a new Metallist in Amethyst (that Copper would certainly look good on you, don’t you think?).
Off to bed for me, Pups; need to recover from vacation.
althespook @ 114
Well, given your politeness and rejection of crudity, I’d agree. You’re quite right. Interspecies copulation usually does not lead to pregnancy.
To make it plainer, the high-mucky-muck Repugs are all goat-fuckers. That’s how they maintain discipline. One half has pictures of the other half fucking goats. The other half has pictures of the first half being fucked by goats.
I’m right behind Rayne, working tomorrow. Have a great night everyone!
Rayne @ 124
pen porn!
For Al…
Part 1
Part 2
Hugh Downs’ Over Easy tribute, 1980
(waving to the sleepy pups leaving)
Just wondering … did Danny Elfman have the Young Republicans in mind when he wrote this song?
Rayne @ 124
sleep well, Rayne.
burnspbesq @ 103
Nice – really nice
LoudounLib @ 126
night loudonlib.
StarCraft VO @ 118
Is mine wrong, or do you have the impeachment calendar? Mine says 723 days, 23 hours & 38 minutes. now.
montag @ 125
I was just thinking about Foley and The BJ Rape Guy. Geeze….
Fer gawd’s sake, check the time. Seventeen months is about 510 days. You’re slow!
Okie, I am now going to go do my work that I’m getting paid for, and will likely return for LLNite. Good to see you back, Al, we were all getting worried about you.
Mine must be wrong. I see you can reset it though. Where’s my son?
Please please please, hard drive, back up faster — I want to go home. I’ll be worshiping the Almighty Billable Hour all flippin’ weekend as it is — why am I still in my office at 9:00 on Friday night?
Shadowstalker @ 137
thank you shadowstalker, *I* was getting worried about me. But everything (so far, knock on appropriate substance to avoid murphy IED) has finally gotten better and looks okay for now. I’m still twitchy tho and will be for a while. I’ll try not to show ….WHAT WAS THAT? sorry..
burnspbesq @ 112
(grabs without fumbling, yessss!) Thanks! (mops off damp & miffed cat that was reclining too close to the monitor)
burnspbesq @ 139
:( tis a fine night for a moonlit ride in that convertible and you are stuck at the office – sorry burns
Apropos music and politics. Oh, and FDL: Howie has a great one.
Twain @ 132
Really, realy nice. Thanks for turning me on, burnspbesq!
Are we still looking for events for Reid/Clyburn/Emanuel/hoyer/Pelosi? Found a couple more for Reid in Nevada a few days ago for August.
ccmask @ 138
Didn’t he show you that just last week?
;)
CD @ 111
you’re right! I knew i was experiencing misrememberification …
wangdangdoodle @ 144
My pleasure.
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 147
[Best stentorian TV announcer voice] “You, too, can help with the tragedy that is CRS. Just call 1-800-AWW-SHIT and make your pledge today.”
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 147
NO BUSH CHANNELING! He should be sent to the Hague just for the war crimes he’s committed on the English Language for pityssake…
Yep, 527-528. Hey, ccmask, suddenly your world got brighter, eh?
Backwards Bush
lolo @ 47
WFMI -2.58 today, and it had been starting to rally the last couple of days. Course, it’s been tanking badly since last November. Hope the SEC allows the merger.
Who would steal the candy from a laughing baby’s mouth?
Cross-Eyed Mary – Jethro Tull
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFh_WI6OFus
By the way, Rupert Murdoch is soft on China.
-GSD
Shit, did I kill the thread?
ON EDIT… must have been a beer run.
Suzanne @ 82
lol – zactly
What does soft on China mean?
GSD?
[Slumping back from Florida mini-vacation where he had no computer but brought back some deelightful cold germs he picked-up from the MILLIONS of kidlets down there…]
Hi, everybody! I think I really like the way Dodd held his own with Billo. He isn’t on my short list (Gore) but he seems pretty credible. Did we start giving our spokesmodels some kind of
backbonedebate training since I’ve been gone? Or is the (Bill) Clinton take-down last fall on Faux News having a wonderful ripple effect?GSD @ 154
Umm, Rupert Murdoch is just plain soft. (As in New Englandese, soft as a grape.)
StarCraft VO @ 151
I have one of those too. I wonder how many days it has left?
It means that he’s willing to compromise on things like media content and human rights in order to do business with China.
-GSD
This argument goes right to the heart of the lizard brains.
Never attack Fox/Murdoch as conservative, that is a badge of honor for the right.
Attack Murdoch as soft on China or as a purveyor of smut.
Millineryman @ 6
Trex,
That was one of the best. But I say that every time. Great.
Thanks…M.
GSD @ 161
…or anybody else.
Dinner with Harry Reid this August:
And:
AMEN Al, and good to see you.
Hey Suz and everyone!
Nite~!
burnspbesq @ 130
Must have had when he wrote Dead Man’s Party, too.
GSD @ 161
Money is always the great equalizer.
Margot @ 164
Nite Margot. Still sending healing thoughts your way!
Welcome home, althecynic!
alexandriacynic @ 158
I ahso hab ah summah code – dey are de horrible.
GSD @ 154
Roopert is 157 years old. He’s ’soft’ pretty much everywhere, all the time.
Margot @ 164
night margot!
EvilDrPuma @ 163
The point is to point out these kinds of facts. It is tough for GOP-ers to defend. It sows distrust. It is hitting the brand for not being what the far right want to believe it is. All American, patriotic, rah-rah.
-GSD
Markos and SusanG respond to Harold Ford in the WaPo tomorrow.
persiflage @ 170
That explains the photographs of him….
I don’t normally do music videos, but this one is right up my alley….
http://staff.aist.go.jp/s.naka…..nHRP-2.mpg
Thanks Starcraft.
Did you all notice that the war czar came out of hiding? He’s quoted as saying that a draft is worth considering. So, he’s alive and well and trying to figure out a way to keep the war going on forever. They should change his title to “Keeper of the War”.
althespook @ 175
It won’t open for me. It wants me to save it.
GSD @ 161
Right that is not “soft” on China per say. If soft is meant to be kind and humane and actually liking the people and not power, Murdoch only adds his shite to the mix of the not so nice aspects of China.
mui, thanks for the updated schedule
althespook @ 150
(snickers) good catch! Listening to Air America on my Hellishly-Long-Commute (thank god/dess only one week left on that contract)
and was earworm infected by some of their Bush parody commercials
In violent times you shouldn’t have to sell your Soul.
Shout – Tears For Fears
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bqgy1mebh8
TeddySanFran @ 173
‘Bout damn time Dr. Dean started getting the credit he deserves! He’d be on my short list, too. I like the sound of Gore/Dean. Might have to watch the (amplified) scream speech and hear about Al inventing the toobz a bunch but wouldn’t it be nice to have smart guys in charge for once in a long while?
montag @ 167
Money is the great equalizer for who? Ideologists and f*cked up people like Rupert Murdoch. Not for people who think that folks on the Mainland deserve better lives.
radiofreewill @ 183
Sigh.
Follow in the footsteps of a soldier girl. It’s time to put your clothes on and to face the world. When the wind blows, when the mothers talk, only we can work it out.
(TFF, “Mothers Talk”)
alexandriacynic @ 183
Morons would be an improvement….
Suzanne @ 170
*sliding the echineccea & golden seal bottles over*
Hey, firedogs,
Just flying by, after a potluck down the hill, but thought I tell you that we’re watching a Fabulous special about Cole Porter. Talk about alotta great music. Its channel KLCS….
mui @ 184
Money is always the great equalizer, as I said. It soothes all manner of moral qualms amongst the morally malleable, in most instances….
montag @ 174
Every now and then I round up a gang of expletives to hurl at Roopert with as much venom as I can gather. Doesn’t bother him but it makes me feel better. I’ve watched him for maybe 30 years now and there is one, and only one, rule for understanding Murdoch. When something happens, from a terrorist attack to the chance to buy the WSJ, his only question, in fact his only interest, is how it will affect News Corp. Nothing else matters. He’ll look you straight in the eye an tell you blatant lies if it benefits News Corp. He’ll destroy you if you stand in News Corp’s way. It’s that simple, and that ugly.
alexandriacynic @ 183
Oh, if only…one of the most insidiously devilish things the Repubs have done is to demonize intelligence – as if ’smart’ means ‘naive, conceited and untrustworthy’
Suzanne @ 181
Merci! I know it’s off topic, but the librarian in me really wants to dig out the schedules so the screwed up five can get an earful on FISA.
Continue to hit Fox Advertisers.
HOME DEPOT.
Look around, TAKE SOMETHING BACK! 90 day return policy.
Be sure and tell em why…
alexandriacynic @ 158
Dodd lost me today (Bloomberg.com)
On hedge-fund taxation, Dodd said he is concerned about congressional efforts to boost taxes on managers of such funds and private-equity firms such as New York-based Blackstone Group LP. Democratic presidential opponents Clinton, Illinois Senator Barack Obama and former North Carolina Senator John Edwards support a tax increase.
“There is a legitimate case about taxes that could be collected” from the managers, Dodd said. Even so, he said he wanted to make sure that higher taxes wouldn’t harm job creation.
“There are an awful lot of unions, a lot of retirement funds, pensions, that are doing better today because of the investments that are being made that are producing greater wealth,” Dodd said. If higher tax collection leads to creation of fewer jobs, “at least we ought to know that,” he said.
mui @ 193
be sure to send a copy of it to CHS via the contact us link at the top of the page
StarCraft VO @ 151
Mine says 528 days left. Seems like forever:(
T Rex: This long-time lurker thought of you last night & wished there was a way to share in person. My partner & I were invited to attend the Democratic Forum in Hollywood sponsored by the Human Rights Campaign. We were flabbergasted to find we’d been assigned seats in the front row, right by the steps where the candidates ascended to the stage. Each one of them shook our hands before going up! Who would have thought that two old broads who happen to take an interest in what’s going on in their country – often and as loudly as possible – would come to mind when the demographic required an Older Lesbian Couple? What a night for us!!
montag @ 190
Excuse me not all of us are morally malleable.
alice liddell @ 198
What a wonderful delurking! Welcome to the Lake – it has been my experience that once delurked, it is very very hard to go back to just being a reader.
radiofreewill @ 183
Isn’t this place great?! See you again late night arguing on the left.
SunnyNobility @ 195
Hurt job creation? We have job creation?
Dodd may be getting even more money from the financial types than Hillary or Obama. He’s well hooked up with them.
The hedge funds aren’t creating jobs–they’re sucking money out of the economy and putting it in the pockets of the idle rich, and Dodd knows that. Unregulated hedges and private investment banks have been doing a Ponzi scheme on the entire financial network for at least a half a decade. And Dodd knows that, too.
Regardless of his views on the war, Dodd has feet of clay, too.
mui @ 180
Mui, I am arguing from a perspective of damaging his credibility with the right. Soft is a perjorative.
-GSD
mui @ 198
Umm, I believe the subject of that thread was Rupert Murdoch. No one was speaking of you.
Cheers.
SunnyNobility @ 195
That’s what I mean about Dodd’s residual HolyJoe itis, which I distrust. I think I’ll dash off an angry note tommorrow.
alice liddell @ 197
You or your partner were in a brightly patterned shirt, right? I saw you! Thanks for being there for all of us.
montag @ 202
But we all do and we aren’t going to find the perfect person to be prez. I think we can get close though. :)
alice liddell @ 198
Wonderful! Please de-lurk again…the Lake is a great place to swim.
I really don’t think most Bush bitter enders care how many Chinese get killed in mine collapses.
They do get upset when “their red/white/blue network” is compromising with Communists oppressing Christians…..
It helps to damage the Fox brand thus diluting their trust and its effectiveness. It is basically a Rove play of hitting Fox and Murdoch from the right.
-GSD
I’m gonna buy this town and put it all in my shoe – I might even give a piece to you.
Hear My Train A Comin’ – Jimi Hendrix (12-string)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je9O-VdrZ0E
Most of the hedge funds are headquartered in Greenwich CT; Dodd also chairs the Senate Banking Committee.
Twain @ 207
Depends on how big those feet are, though. :)
Don’t think it matters. Dodd is already toast. The press has already picked the front runners for us….
alice liddell @ 198
That is sooo Kewl! Who did ya like the most?
TeddySanFran @ 212
Just like the congresswoman who said she’d vote against the war, but not against the aircraft makers in her district.
-GSD
alice liddell @ 198
You made my day. Thank you.
wangdangdoodle @ 178
crap its an mpg. well it is a robot in japan that actually dances. it’s from Engadget so the mpg is okay if you want to dl and then play it. are you on a mac, linux, or pc?
GSD @ 204
Yes, I hear you but I worry. it should not be done in a way that plays into the growing “yellow peril itis” (sorry keyboard has no dashes). I see it being whipped into a frenzy by the likes of Lou Dobbs, along with anti immigrant sentiments. Both are dangerous.
althespook @ 217
PC, with Vista. [Ducks!]
lolo @ 47
Announced a couple of weeks ago: Harvard Endowment Fund lost $350 mil in a hedge fund.
At last report, 53 of top university endowment funds had 18% of their monies invested in hedge funds. Stay tuned.
Hi Alice Liddell and Partner!
Hope you feel better, Suze. (Nice dive errlier!) Time for me to take an antihistazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 181
oh if it’s parody it’s all right then. I retract my comment (suuuuuuucccckkkkk…urp…see, all gone!) :)
AK, any guesses about what Randi Rhodes was referring to when she said she knows something she cannot tell us?
Reminds me of Nancy saying that we don’t know the half of it…
wangdangdoodle @ 218
uh, no duck needed. i was tossing a bottle of ibuprofen…you will need it! :)
okay then right-click the link and do a save target as and put it somewhere easy to find. It will dl. then double click and it will play in your favorite mpg player. If you are clinically paranoid like me, run your virus checker on it first just in case. I think its worth the trouble, but that’s just me…
alice liddell @ 198
My god, maybe there is hope.
Loo Hoo. @ 223
I managed to miss this in the chaos of my recent life. can you repost linky?
Teddy, my X, HA! make that XXX told me that there was a fundraiser at the Abby today. Hillary was there last night and Obama was at Club#11. She said the traffic last night was horrific when she came home from work. She lives off Sunset. alice how exciting for you and your partner to be able to shakehands witheveryone.. Oh, and welcome to the lake!
Mui, I do agree with you on that. But I think that in order to hammer the Fox machine that argument can be made without fanning yellow peril racism.
Which is not to say that China and Russia aren’t stocking up against us.
Thanks to the foreign policy nitwits that are driving a new global arms race 4.0.
I would so much like to use the soft power of knowledge and freedom, not the bumper sticker kind, to effect a more free and democratic China….
-GSD
alexandriacynic @ 221
(lowers alexandriacynic into the arms of significant other/cat/dog/wombat with instructions to take to sleeping location)
alexandriacynic @ 222
i think it is starting to kick in alexandriacynic
Wow, right now I am listening to an MP3 that a friend sent me of Tori Amos live, performing her song “God”, but midway through it sigues into a slow-motion cover of Kate Bush’s “Running Up That Hill”.
Hey, that gives me an idea for Late Late Nite…
Lost everything after 2002: brother and account person. Waiting to lose everything for 4 years, which happened, and now just on disability and my brother’s guilt.
AK, I don’t have a link cuz I’m not on my own computer. It was at about 3:45 on today’s show. Sounded like she was dying to give the scoop, but couldn’t.
Loo Hoo. @ 224
Can you give more details?
AAAAhhh, Jesus!
I finished watching the Bill Moyers show, which was excellent, and while waiting for the next show I did a little channel surfing…I still can’t get the taste outta my eyes!
Malkin the Malady was on Cspan addressing the Young Americans for Fascism satanic convocation…I went from watching thoughtful, serious discussion to watching a weeping boil with a laugh track.
It was like passing a wreck on the freeway, it took me 20 seconds to switch to a SCRUBS rerun.
Is it true she’s doing one of the Romney boys, you know, one of those brave souls who has enlisted in his father’s drive for the Whitehouse instead of wasting time in Iraq?
I need a drink, or six.
Loo Hoo. @ 234
what was she talking about when she said that?
Loo Hoo. @ 234
So, it sounded like good news?
Loo Hoo. @ 233
ah. which program, i may be able to find a transcript.
althespook @ 223
ummm…parody is barely excusable … (blushes) i have NO tolerance for my sister’s Bush mimicry (to me, hearing his voice or any simulation thereof is worse than nails on a blackboard or microphone feedback). So i appreciate those who forgive when i cannot *g*
No, Randi was talking about the Tillman cover-up, and it sounded like she knows something she can’t discuss for fear of…
althespook @ 225
That was worth it, and no trouble with your excellent destructions. Check out these cute little guys on youtube…
Dancing robots
fartsinsleep @ 234
Be careful–that way leads to AA. :) Malkin isn’t worth it.
Air America, AK. Randi Rhodes. I can’t copy a link or anything on this stupid computer.
Mmmmalkin….I’d rather stick my hand in a garbage disposal.
-GSD
Loo Hoo. @ 241
That poor family.
GSD @ 229
As far as I know China is upgrading its navy. Upgrading the military is something countries do constantly, not the least of which is Israel. Maybe I am a little testy tonight on the subject of China, but they do have a right. I agree with the words of one Main land official who said on the subject: “shut up Americans . . .” Any “moral” stand on the subject is regarded is hypcrisy these days, not the least of which China is protective of its sovreignty and you can quite imagine they feel a little testy these days . . . with the Chimpenfuhrer playing cowboy.
GSD @ 245
GSD, I think you make me laugh out loud every day.
lolo @ 227
Hillary was In EssEff today as well; it looked like she and our BoyMayor were standing atop the new Science Museum in GGPark. He endorsed her. That’ll show Barack Obama to duck outta the frame every time Gavin’s photographer snaps the shutter!
Loo Hoo. @ 244
LooHoo did you check her website?
Loo Hoo. @ 243
No luck on transcript on her site for the show. But the Tillman case can blow up in everybody’s face anytime. The nightmare is this scenario with evidence to prove it. Sweet Jeebus if anything like that is in the wind…
Pacific time. 3:30 plus/minus.
Loo Hoo. @ 244
Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought she was on vacay this week, and today was a replay…
OldCoastie @ 237
randi’s on vaca – her show was a re-run today
montag @ 205
Umm, I believe the subject of that thread was Rupert Murdoch. No one was speaking of you.
Cheers.
You made a really general statement. I qualified. Should I say Cheers back?
tee hee! I got the non-zed … TRex is upstairs
Hello all at FDL. Good to see your names again. I was out of town for a month and am just now catching up on news here. I have to admit it was restful not to know anything about the political landscape for several weeks.
Got in touch with my local State Dems office today and volunteered myself as an expert envelope-stuffer. Told them my sister and a couple of friends want to come along too. “Send us a resume,” the receptionist said. So I wrote up my 15 years of bulk-mailing experience, complete with references and Statement of Patriotic Intent, and e-mailed it to them.
…And if that doesn’t work, I’m dropping in with home-baked cookies. :-)
EPU’d as usual. Now I know I’m home.
Thank you for the welcome, Suzanne, Teddy San Fran, Loo Hoo, and all the others here. It’s exactly your kind of greeting that has kept me lurking almost daily for a long time. Suzanne, I have a feeling you’re right about the de-lurking….
Teddy SF: that was us you saw. Me in the pattern, my partner very graciously in a top the same color as Hillary’s. And don’t say Thanks to us: we just happened to win the lottery last nite. May your day come soon, too!
Alice, saw you both too.
Congrats on the exposure.
Welcome to delurking delake.
-GSD
Welcome alice liddell! We might be the only ones left on this thread, and I’m closing up shop for the evening, but as a mostly reader-not-writer myself, I wanted to say it’s great to have you here.
‘night everyone….
mui @ 245
This was all set in motion by Nixon (now, remember who was Nixon’s emissary to China in that time).
The expectation was that trade normalization would lead to democracy–or so it was sold to the public. In truth, the people making money on China trade today don’t give a flyin’ fuck about real democracy inside China. Otherwise, there would have been wholesale change in policy after Tiananmen Square.
They’re interested in money, Murdoch included. Hey, if Murdoch had said, “yeah, I’ll finance a satellite system for you, but, on my terms, totally free and open to all programming,” the Chinese would have said, “no, thanks,” because there would be another company waiting in the wings to give them what they wanted for the best price.
When it comes to money, the free-market types will always give true democracy short shrift.
Count on it.
mui @ 246
IMHO, China is in a lose lose situation much like Japan was before the second world war. Before I go any further, let me make clear that I believe our entry into WWII was right and inevitable. Having said that, we did a lot to set Japan up for that situation because of their intervention in Manchuria allowed some fools in congress to embargo them on metals and oil as punishment (like we are trying to do to Iran…) This drove them to try and get supplies of both that couldn’t be cut off, and that gave the militarists power to do the war bit.
China is unbelievably vulnerable right now, and their leadership knows it. (full disclosure, I did a minor in ancient chinese history in college a LOOOOOONG time ago…). First, many chinese think the “peasant emperors” (the communists) are an “interim” dynasty and fully expectg the Quing dynasty to be restored via the Guomindong on Taiwan. Many would cooperate with it because of the advantage it might bring. THAT is one reason the chinese mainland govt gets twitchy about Taiwan, they know in the eyes of many chinese they aren’t a legit or long lasting government. Also, many provinces with heavy foreign investment and high percentages of wealthy non-aparatchiks want out of the party domination, which sucks most of their profit into the militarisation and home-industry schemes (china wants to be able to maintian a 2000 level economy by 2020 with no outside purchases at all, including oil and food as well as technology.) And remember that while a few chinese are getting very rich and the govt is spending money like a drunken sailor, the average chinese is little better off at best. And with the internet, more and more of them are realizing it. that’s why chins is deadly afraid of things like yahoo and facebook and wikipedia and google. their people are more than capable of another revolution and if they figure out how they’re getting screwed, they might well do it.
And that’s the reason for the big military right now. Not for foreign adventurism, but to fight off the outside powers who might attempt to intervene to help support the breakup of the country into easily controllable provincial elements like happened to the former yugoslavia but on a much larger scale. (And check out the Boxer Rebellion on wiki if you’d like to see how this was done prior to WW I.)
Bottom line, the Chinese are tapdancing on a nanowire above a cauldron of molten lava. And they know it. Let’s not jiggle their elbow.
(Dayam that felt good. Haven’t gotten to do that for FAR too long…)
ndfg: your description of what FDL meant to your father was one of the most meaningful and hopeful words that I had ever read. I wanted you to know.9speaking as one who has taken care of one who has died.)
Mui,
I thought I made the case FOR China building up when I said this:
“Which is not to say that China and Russia aren’t stocking up against us.
Thanks to the foreign policy nitwits that are driving a new global arms race 4.0.”
(That would be The Decider and Deadeye Dick)
I am critical of America, and most other countries on the planet, China doesn’t get a pass and neither does Israel.
The world would be a much better place if everyone, especially the US got out of the dickswinging game.
-GSD
montag @ 262
Thank you. You don’t need to lecture me. Considering my significant other of the past ten years is Chinese and a sinologist, I do happen to know quite a bit.
Ummm in case you haven’t been paying attention because Joe Biden, Denis Kucinich and Bill Richardson have all been on Fox News this past week.
CTuttle @ 98
thank you very much.
i had no idea.
i owe you great joy.
mui @ 266
Snippy tonight, aren’t you? Mind explaining why?
No one’s demeaning the Chinese people here, at any time. They’re pawns of their government, just as we are of ours. And both governments–including the influence of creeps like Murdoch–are hurting them, and us.
Now, what manner of bug is up your ass at the moment?
mhpcr @ 264
thank you! sometimes i feel like a twit when i reread comments after i’ve hit “submit” . I’m grateful to know it was meaningful & hopeful to you (us Lake Woebegon types worry about being too sentimental). Accept my sympathy for your loss, and my admiration for your caregiving. The longer i live the more i know the world is filled with unsung heroes and angels.
althespook @ 263
Taiwan: there are many who are actually moving back to the Mainland (feeling a surge of Mainland nationalism). There are also those who feel a native Taiwanese pride. (Taiwan is not all Han) The KMT is letting democracy play and as far as I know are not interested in all in playing a military role in the Mainland. And T* is becoming a messy boisterous democracy.
China’s problem with decentralization will have to play out on it’s own. I do not think Taiwan wants to be a player.
montag @ 269
I don’t know if I should answer that considering the last sentence.
I do however get sick of these perpetual misperceptions and generalizations about Mainland, Taiwan, & etc. There’s always some gweilo who feels they know more, more than the Chinese, more than the academics. There I said it. But you asked for it with bug up your ass statement.
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 100
hear, hear.
my folks introduced me to Pogo from the papers as a child.
and there are sooooo many reasons that that will not be as likely to happen now.
well, i read the sunday funnies with our 8yo boy and he reads Over the Hedge to me.
and Pearls Before Swine.
but how much longer will newspapers be around?
mui @ 272
You’d better make the “misperception” clear here, because the only thing I’ve ever said in this matter is that Murdoch is a toady to the Chinese government, for the sake of profit. I didn’t mention the mainland/Taiwan conflict. Never. Nor did I ever suggest that I was setting myself up as superior to the academics in this particular matter of Murdoch’s dealings with China’s government. But, I do know what I see.
And, you’ve still got a bug up your ass about something–but not about something I said, I’m afraid. Reread and think about it.
Cheers.
C’mon. Read it all.
mui @ 247
they say the same thing to the Tibetans.
SunnyNobility @ 195
montag @ 274
@266. Seriously and typically gweilo simplification with arrogance. Cheers up yours.
wangdangdoodle @ 202
We have tons of job creation. Most of them are shitty jobs that don’t pay a living wage, but the unemployment rate doesn’t lie.
Thank you again for the welcome, firepups. It’s past my bedtime, so I’m going to be smart and get in there before I fall asleep in my chair. You make quite a community, you know, and one which I’m happy to be part of. Sleep well, all…
GSD @ 265
GSD, that’s fine, I hear you. I was debating. Don’t take it the wrong way.
Ladies and gentlemen – Want to cool off please?
*gentle reminder*
disagree with the message – do not attack the messenger
GSD @ 215
Given who she kicked to the curb in order to win that seat, y’all might want to consider cutting Loretta Sanchez a bit of slack.
Whatever.
The Evil Plan IS Working!
HIT THEIR ADVERTISERS!
(I know I also used to have Home Depot stock also back in the good old bad daze). Get over it, you will wish you had sold it earlier, I do.
HOME DEPOT! 90 Day return Policy!
Look around, TAKE IT BACK. Tell em why.
If it’s a store credit fight it, sell it,
make it public…xxxooo
I’m sorry, Gary who?
Seriously, you are kidding right? Hart should be our next Sec. State.
Simp, I’m trying to be open minded.
NOBODY wanted to sit on Condi’s hard lap…
or any othe part…maybe a positional thing?
The EVIL PLAN IS WORKING!
HIT THEIR ADVERTISERS! very fun, try it!
(I know I also used to have Home Depot stock also back in the good old bad daze). Get over it, you will wish you had sold it earlier, I do.
HOME DEPOT! 90 Day return Policy!
Look around, TAKE IT BACK. Tell em why.
If it’s a store credit fight it, sell it,
make it public…xxxooo
“MEETING RESISTANCE”, is by far the most provocative documentary to come out of the Iraq war debacle. Directors Steve Connors’ and Molly Bingham have given the world unfettered access into the realities of war from the “insurgents mindset” of the American “occupation”. In their own words, the “insurgents”, give an emotional account of how the American invasion drove them to stand up and fight for their country.
“MEETING RESISTANCE” focuses on eight “insurgents”, each with his or her own tale and reasons for opposing the American-led occupation…. The film witnesses how they began to organize themselves, reveals why they have decided to violently oppose the occupation of the country, and hears in their words the underlying ideological foundation to fight.” Electronic Media Press Kit
A MUST SEE Documentary
http://www.buzzflash.net/story.php?id=21501
Just taking a lurk break to ask why I haven’t noticed anyone discussing the recent court decision against the two Pox News reporters who objected to Pox requiring then to report fake news? (Picking this up from recent Randi Rhodes comments.)
Evidently the ruling “protects” Pox’s right to falsify news stories.
To me, it seems that this is another big crack in whatever credibility Pox may claim, and should be a big part of the campaign to discredit Pox.
Real Fake News.
Just asking! I may have missed another thread on the subject…
Faux News is a cancerous sore on our democracy and the Fourth Estate.
Democrats realize that the deck will always be stacked against them at the Faux News’ card game.
I’m just surprised that O’Reilly didn’t start yelling “Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!” at Sen. Christ Dodd or have Dodd’s microphone disconnected…which may be an indication that Faux News heads are seeking some type of atonement for their past un-American and traitorous behavior, but I doubt it.