Via Atrios, this is just beyond weird:
President Bush was treated for Lyme disease a year ago after developing a circular rash characteristic of the ailment, the White House announced yesterday.
Especially when you consider this:
The disease varies widely in its presentation, which may include a rash and flu-like symptoms in its initial stage, followed by the possibility of musculoskeletal, arthritic, neurologic, psychiatric and cardiac manifestations. In most cases of Lyme disease, symptoms can be eliminated with antibiotics, especially if treatment is begun early in the course of illness.
A percentage of patients with Lyme disease have symptoms that last months to years after treatment with antibiotics. These symptoms can include muscle and joint pains, arthritis, stiff neck, cognitive defects, neurological complaints or fatigue. The cause of these continuing symptoms is not yet known. There is some evidence that they may result from an autoimmune type of response, in which a person’s immune system continues to respond even after the infection has been cleared, as well as evidence of ongoing infection with the spirochete. (emphasis mine)
Psychiatric and cardiac manifestations? Cognitive defects? Hello??!!?? Is this affecting his performance in office? And really, how in the hell would we know? Don’t we all have a right to know that we are another deer tick away from “President Cheney”?!? I’m with Duncan – that absolutely ought to have been disclosed to the public in full.
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Hi Christy
Bush is a fat tic on the constitution.
yup – cognitive deficits… but I think that’s been going on longer than a year…
I’m with you. It should have been disclosed. But it’s just another instance of the Bush administration’s obsessive secrecy.
readin about Harold Fords coments-crooksandliars.com-about he doesn’tknowwho was on the right side of this war????
That, plus Reid’s and Pelosi’s diastorous handling of FISA-
I am wondering if there is a brain sucking mechanism in DC-or is it just on the Hill?
I think it’s pretty obvious that the cognitive defects observed are what Blue Cross would refer to as an “existing condition.”
It is a nearly impossible task for any Doctor to detect cognitive defects in George W. Bush.
Any bets on the subject of the upcoming press conference? Will it be recess appointments? Will it be some wandering rant on terra terra terra! hung on the instability in Pakistan?
OldCoastie @ 3
Pre-existing condition …
But seriously, this *could* still be a mental health issue for him … and us. And he’s got his finger on the nuclear button. Will anyone press this?
Christy, I know having the power out is a pain, but isn’t this story a little over the top? He got the rash after bike riding, they gave him antibiotics; they tested after it was done and it was gone, and decided it needed no further followup. As someone who has been bitten by various bugs and contracted things over my life, this is sort of a nothing story when we are worried about attacks and French Banks…
And really, how in the hell would we know?
I was gonna say that bush was so cognizantly defective before, this could only be a change for the better.
But then I re-ran some recent past performances though my mind, and have decided – Nah!!
Trouble here is that you treat before you test. At least, that’s what happened when I had the bullseye after a day of birding. The doctor told me I could have the blood test, and in a week to ten days we’d know whether I was infected. Or I could just start the course of penicillin that day, in which case, if I were infected, it would be more effective. But, if we did that, there was no reason for the test.
Yes, it should have been disclosed. But if it was treated promptly, there’s little risk that he’s infected now. And there’s no way to know whether he ever was infected.
Beth at 8 — I’m wondering if it is going to be about the fact that they failed to disclose the lyme disease for over a year. But my guess would be something about Pakistan…the Musharaff refusal to participate in the security conference with Afghanistan has thrown things for a huge loop diplomatically…
It’d be great if Bush was asked the same question that Romney was asked about his children serving in the military. It won’t happen…either the question or the service.
EPU’d OldCoastie @ 68
This is part of the problem: the military industrial complex provides jobs and feeds local interest in keeping the war going.
They are heading to Nancy Pelosi’s home next week.
beth meacham @ 4
Agreed.
BTW, Beth, did you ever live in central Ohio?
jay at 11 — That is the case if the treatment goes well. But not everyone responds to the antibiotics and according to what I know about it, this can keep going in some folks for a year and a half or more after a full course of treatment, depending on their immune systems and the strain.
why should we allow this? why wouldn’t we require complete physical and psychiatric examinations that are made public prior to their being qualified to run?
this would have eliminated a lot of candidates
Is one of the symptoms: “Talks like he has a mouth full of oatmeal?”
Christy Hardin Smith @ 12
Benazir Bhutto had a long interview in Canada on Tuesday night: she’s brokering a deal with Musharraf to return to Pakistan (from self-imposed exile) this fall. She’s trying to have her party form an alliance with Musharraf to allow elections to go ahead. Either that or Musharraf changes the constitution to allow himself to continue as leader in January. His time’s up and Bhutto would like to transition into democracy.
She had to answer a lot of tough questions about whether she’s up to handling the tinderbox that is Pakistan now. Shorter Benazir: control the problem (and weapons, e.g.) before things get out of hand.
there’s little risk that he’s infected now.
Oh, he’s infected all right. May not be Lyme disease, but that man has some serious problems (of an undisclosed nature in an undisclosed location).
edit: hint -> it’s in his head, somewhere in that space where his brain is supposed to be.
Too bad that doesn’t ’splain him pre-2006.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 16
Christy, had a family member contract Lyme disease. He was simply wiped out and ill for some time. It was caught early and he was young and quite the athlete. It took a while for him to respond to treatment.
oldtree @ 17
Bush would pass the physical easily. FDR would never have passed. Which one should have been screened out?
Are they sure they removed the tick? I think the thing burrowed into his head and is feasting on what remains of his pea-sized brain.
-GSD
KLynn @ 15
Yes, I was born and grew up there. In Newark.
Lyme disease for a lemon of a leader. He’s the Sprite President.
-GSD
Cognitive defects?
It’s like the question of whether Bush is back to drinking…how would we be able to tell?
Impaired judgment? Inability to speak coherently?
HEY ANYBODY!!! Did you notice this:
Stanzel said doctors decided not to do blood tests to determine for certain that Bush had Lyme disease because the treatment worked and he never progressed to other symptoms, the Associated Press reported.
Why not? Wouldn’t his doctors want to be absolutely sure that the President of the United States is in the best health? What’s the big deal? Blood tests take a minute to perform. Could it be because blood tests would show that Bush is “off the wagon” or worse?
beth meacham @ 25
Any relation to the Meachams in Arlington? I knew a Beth M. who had a twin brother and an older brother.
Lemming of the BDA @ 29
No kidding: we can’t take their ‘word’ (or judgement) for anything.
I guess a good baseline mental function is important to making a diagnosis quickly.
A subdural hematoma is a pooling of blood between the skull and the brain and is often precipitated by a head injury. It can be suspected if a person undergoes a change in mental function–such as increased forgetfulness.
Wasn’t Pres. Reagan’s diagnosis of a subdural hematoma made several MONTHS after falling from a horse and hitting his head?
OT: I have two questions:
KLynn @ 29
Nope, not me. Probably distant cousins. I haven’t kept track of the more extended family.
KLynn @ 23
ditto – caught earlier than first blood test could even show results – extremely ill: fever, exhaustion, joint pain, fell to the floor in a dead faint and scared me screamin’. Fully recovered in three months.
Are there other symptoms, perhaps: Bullheadedness? Slumping over like a marionette at parade rest? Continuously slurred speech – with monosyllabic intonations? Intolerance for missed naps? Belief that repetition creates Truth?
GSD – nope – Deer Ticks don’t burrow into the brain that I know of, but DEER WORM, now THAT (Paralaphostrongylus teniusis) one nasty thing and dairy goats and sheep can get that from browsing in pastures that infected deer have been in. And you KNOW when they have that because they get paralyzed from it. Which of course is different from “Circling Disease” which comes from listeriosis and they just hug the walls or get all glazeyl. End of today’s vet lesson…
Actually, antibiotics will always work if the infection is caught early (during the rash stage). Treatment only becomes difficult once the rash disappears and spirochetes become sequestered in parts of the body less accessible to antibiotics, like joints and the central nervous system.
You know, I woulda thought that avoiding Lyme disease (that is tick bites) would be something that Bush’s people would have well under control. But he is a reckless idjit. But just sayin.’
Christy Hardin Smith @ 17
Thanks for pointing that out. Are you saying my doctor should have been checking to see whether I was symptomatic, and didn’t?
I was never anything other than asymptomatic, so I’ll never know.
I thought Bush had a compromised immune system before this happened. Doesn’t he have a disease that he inherited from his mother? I forget what it was.
beth meacham @ 8
My first instinct is that the prez just can not let the opportunity pass for him to show off some big MBA words he learned when he, ummm, *obtained* his degree at Harvard. The economy is strong.
Second guess: “My fellow Americans, it has come to my attention that it has been several days now since I’ve reminded you to be afraid. So be very, very, afraid please. And please keep this message in mind while I’m on vacation, ’cause I may not be able to keep reminding y’all during August. Thank you.”
My mother got the red rash, was given antibiotics, and was just fine; I will add that she wasn’t President of the United States, tho.
Bushco claims unprecedented rights to invade citizens privacy. At the same time they claim unprecedented rights of secrecy for themselves.
And why is this so? Is 2007 a more dangerous year than 1961? Are we in more peril today than we were during the Cuban Missile Crisis? Are we to believe the Islamo Fascists have a better intelligence apparatus than the KGB?
It is impossible to have a functional constitutional republic of 300 million people, if the government firt order of business is secrecy.
GSD @ 27
best line today!
About a year ago I went to a lecture by a Lyme Disease Expert who told one sad tale(not the main stream he admitted but true nonetheless) of a poor teenage female who wound up in a mental institution for a few years when it was all caused by Lyme Disease
Lyme disease is in very difficult to diagnose and, though sometime antibiotics do the trick, responds weirdly to treatment. I know. Both I and my brother in law have recurrent bouts of this. Even Presidential doctors could be doubtful about the disease.
But really, Bush is such a mean varmint, what’s a deer tick doing biting him?
Also Lyme disease is a thing you get (mostly) in New England — you mean this Texas stuff is phony?
Arc Parser @ 38
That’s much the explanation I remember.
janinsanfran @ 47
It’s true that there’s not much Lyme Disease in Texas. There’s plenty in Maryland, though.
cathy @ 41
mom (and dad) have Graves disease.
cathy @ 40
Both parents have Graves Disease. SR. came down with while in office as did Mom. So, many docs say he is a ticking thyroid timebomb…
Bush’s announcement:
The ticks that attacked me will hear from ALL of us soon. Then he’s going to unleash a nuclear strike on Lyme Connecticut.
-GSD
jayt @ 41
I wonder if the bribes paid to Harvard to grant the MBA were worth being forever associated with this particular Bush?
GSD @ 52
you are on a roll today, GSD. lol
When you consider how many years ronny was in mental melt-down mode and the American public knew nothing about it, no cover-up about prez health info surprises me anymore.
cathy @ 40
Nice straight line.
GSD?
I’m calling bullsh*t on MSNBC!
This morning they hammered the story that Pakistan is in a state of emergency because of Obama’s statements.
It is simply not true.
Musharraf declined to institute a state of emergency that was being proposed due to problems on the borders and in the northern provinces.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/…..index.html
I have to say, I am so psyched today that the space shuttle launched safely. Good on them.
Good morning Christy.
My question is why did they disclose it now?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 58
I’m glad we agree on that. I worked for NASA JSC a number of years ago and have a lot of friends there and at KSC.
TexB at 59 — Good question, and I am not certain why now. It’s odd though, isn’t it?
GSD @ 52
Except that he’s dyslexic. Now attacking all limes. Lemons too, just for spite.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 58
It was a totally gorgeous launch ~ I watched Nasa TV on my desktop with Real Player. Phenomenal. You can watch spacewalks and everything. Keeps MY spirits up.
KLynn @ 23
how early? a day? a week?
Perhaps they are spreading the Lyme Disease story to hide the fact that he has tertiary syphilis eating up his brain. Or that his mind-control implant is malfunctioning. Could that mysterious hump-thing on his back be full of spirochetes? If they admit to something, I always assume the truth is far worse.
If they didn’t blood test him to know if he had the disease, then they began treatment due to symptoms, or because of a bullseye bite.
If they didn’t blood test him later, then there is no way to know if he still has it.
Maybe he was bitten by a vampire.
news conference up CSPAN1
Tax cuts! More tax cuts!
btw, according to Bloomberg, Bush has spent 418 days at the Crawford manse and counting while in office…and getting ready to start another vacation today. Boo yah, eh?
It’s a tax cut and economy press conference today, it looks like.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 60
It’s the groundwork for the memory defense…Maybe there is an outbreak of Lyme Disease in the WH and that is why nobody can remember a thing about DOJ and every other issue of Constitutional concern…
I think twolf said it best last night when this was first reported:
Perhaps Bush caught something communicable from the former leader of the Young Republicans during a, uh, briefing.
So who runs the place while dickhead is on vacation?
Deadeye or Rove?
it’s always so funny when the shrub talks about education…
Prof Bush is now giving an MBA talk on
how well his economy is working. Someone better
ask him if the economy is so good, how come
most workers live from pay check to pay check…
His economy benefits the fucking rich…
Over and out
Bay State Librul @ 74
nothing a few more tax cuts won’t help
I wish someone would preface a question to Bush with: “As the one of the most disliked Presidents in our history, . . .”
He needs sympathy because those mean girl bloggers are always after him. And making headway too. :)
it’s the economy. “Nanotechnology”
I win.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 58
I agree! I was reflecting on this and the Bond’s home run thingie (I don’t care-Hank did it without steroids) and something this country has been lacking for a long time is inspiration and hope.
Where are our heroes (besides you and Jane, *g*)? Sports figures certainly are not providing that leadership when you have the suspicious likes of Bonds, Vick, and all the others who daily seem to confirm our worst fears about overpaid WATB athletes.
Where are the JFKs, MLKs, Dylans, Lennons, and those larger than life astronauts? From those icons, come dreams that WE CAN be a better nation.
Dammit, Hugh, you just made me spew my coffee… *g*
Bush beating up on Congress. I wonder why. Oh right, because he can.
He thanked some senators and said that there was bi-partisan support. The Senators were all Repugs
OMG.
This is hysterical.
Spew alert.
since when did a nation’s sovereignty matter to Bush?
I think some sharp eyed someone spotted the lyme disease notation in his past medical history in the newly released results of his latest physical
his face is awful twitchy
Bustednuckles @ 84
Phoenix Woman had that with a post last night…
Ooooh, it’s a Tillman question. “Rumsfeld and others used ‘I don’t recall.’ a total of 82 times during the Congressional hearing.”
cleter @ 72
Uh, I believe that would be a de-briefing. Back to lurking.
OT: Russia says two bombers flew to Guam for the first time since the Cold War, forcing US fighters to scramble.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-…..938856.stm
Executive Order 8765309
Classified
Subject: Ticks
It has come to my attention that the dark shadow of Terror has emerged in yet another form. According to the Intelligence Services, the Ticks declared Jihad on all Americans when they infected me – and made me appear incompetent to the American people.
Henceforth, I am ordering the NSA to focus the full array of it’s Counter-terrorism tools on the ‘enemy’ in order to make the World safe for me to walk in the woods, again.
Ticks, I’m serving you notice: We’re gonna read your e-mails, and listen to your phone calls, too. We’re gonna root out the whole nest of you who don’t think right and act right, according to my say.
Signed,
Chimpy
U.E.
Indeed.
It’s all very well to get upset about this, but he entered office with President Cheney already firmly in charge and with evidence of psychiatric and cognitive defects strewn throughout his past performance.
People are going to be saying about us what we say about the Germans: They knew. They had to know.
He thanked NM’s D Sen. Bingamen, but he called him Bingamum.
-GSD
selise at 64. The first blood test – on this very sick person – only showed a tiny blip, not enough to even indicate that the second, more definitive blood test should be used.
got sicker…
more thorough blood test done three or four days after first. Took a week for results. The antibiotics were started prophylactically at the time of second blood test. Continued to get sicker – more pain, fever, fainted – then the second blood test showed lyme disease.
Lyme disease, when treated immediately with anti biotics, affords a complete cure with no after effects. Sorry, can’t blame his stupidity on the little tick bite.
George’s problem is terminal stupidity with a dash of devious, scheming, malisciousness buoyed up with lots of money by family and relatives who don’t want to be publicly shamed by his incompetence.
How would you like to have been in the Skull and Bones fraternity when George was there? Knowing that you were smarter and faster, just not richer and better connected.
Ticks have nothing to do with it. Unless it happened at birth.
jayt @ 56
oh, you mean “open mouth, insert foot disease”?
And I thought both Bush and Cheney only had rabies.
Bush is on drugs… he looks medicated.
Good follow up question on Tillman which he dodged again… that fucking liar!
And as for the shuttle, I am lucky enough to live on the Space Coast and across the street from the beach which is always filled with people for the launches. Everyone claps and cheers and it really does make you proud despite every other underhanded thing going on in the government.
Question on Tillman: I can understand why the Tillman family has a significant emotion? Defense Department wants to know the truth. 7 investigations mentioned by questioner. Bush: I hope there is an invesigation to get to the bottom of it. So another investigation, number 8, 9, whatever.
Shorter version: Blah, blah, blah.
When did you learn Pat Tillman died from friendly fire.?
“I don’t remember the exact moment.”
promlem is I think this article says the issue started a year ago
’scuze me
the president has had cognitive difficulties since he trades sammy sosa
Apparently part of the budget for the new media digs went toward purchase of an extra large podium just for chimpy; tony gets to use a smaller one. [per CNN]
In Bush’s perverted mind death is justice for anyone that he disapproves.
-GSD
Bush is on drugs… he looks medicated.
My thought exactly.
Waccamaw @ 104
I wonder if staff has to remove all the blue M&Ms
CocoaBeach at 101 — I’ve always wanted to come down and watch a shuttle launch. Mr. ReddHedd and I are both big science fiction readers, and we both had that childhood dream about being an astronaut (but never followed through on the advanced physics to get there). One of these days…I hear it is absolutely awe inspiring to see in person.
I’m looking at our nightmare… when will it end?
TexBetsy @ 91
The Americans and British are told ahead of time of military exercises. BBC saber rattling.
Jeebus, does anyone know where in the hell he is going with teh Iraqi oil revenue ramble of an answer? I don’t even remember what the damn question was at this point.
It’s about the fucking oil, you capitalist
tool
Iraq: difficult but progress. Watching democratic leaders learning how to be leaders. (Hope, they aren’t using Bush as a model) 1/2 of benchmarks showed improvement. (Fake report, put out by the Administration itself, most improvement was in marginal areas and didn’t actually show real progress)
Did he just say Iraq is totally dysfunctional?
he is just bizarre today!
must be hard for him to hold all those numbers in his head…
His mutterings are very alarming.
Georgie looks like he could very well fall asleep, cough,*pass out*,cough any moment now.
He was just briefed on the oil from his economic geniuses, and he’s fucked up the analysis.. the fool is a complete dolt.
Bush: progress in Anbar (Anbar was fortuitous and not part of the surge strategy) Iraqi government beginning to function (BS) Long term consequences if leave before job is done (Slipping back in stump speech mode)
“People say we need an oil revenue law.” These people work for Chevron and Exxon and Haliburton.
I would agree that the Iraqi govt is “beginning to learn how to function”.
They’ve obviously got the vacation part down cold.
deandra @ 96
That’s certainly how my bout with Lyme went. I had a fever and neckaches for over a week before I noticed a bulls-eye rash under my arm.
The antibiotics can be harsh, though, because they cause this thing called a Herxheimer reaction that shot my body temp up to 105 (I topped out the thermometer).
FWIW, Lyme spirochetes are related to those that cause syphilis.
“Yes, teacher, I really DO know the answer.” Mutter, mutter, mutter.
radiofreewill @ 92
You’ve seen this story?
Bustednuckles @ 73
surely you jest. Dick always runs the place. Rove just runs the political shop.
And in a year or two Our Only Media will bring us the news of … 2007.
Just a couple of years late, only a few billion dollars short, and we still got most of the wurds spelled right! Getcher Times right here! It’s supple!
“rational assion”? what is that? and will he help bail out people or not?
So Bush is not the Economizer….
OC at 129 — What does it matter what he actually does, he has empathy in his heart. That’s all that counts. /snark
(Lordy, I woke up on the crabby side of the bed this morning…)
boy, he sure is yakky today…
What the sam hell is he talking about? Talking points linked by mumbo-jumbo. Now he lectures about economy while saying he can’t predict–but all is well. One thing is certain–”there needs to be more transparency” Americans need more “financial literacy”–it’s the buyers’ fault.
Bustednuckles @ 84
Busted, back up a couple a threads here.
Does Kommander Guy still have that wireless thingie in his ear. Then the answers are given to him and he repeats them. But if it malfunctions he goes ahhh….ahh…ahhh…
Mortgage problems. Bush: talk to the market experts. I look at the big picture. Economy strong, inflation low. Global economy strong. Liquiity in system. (Going macro because the micro sucks, oh and you can massage the macro numbers more easily) People didn’t know what they were signing up for. Need education (Not rules to regulate predatory loans) Soft landing (whistling past the graveyard)
Just how did BushCo separate the loyal AZ Repugs from the herd?
One thing…. Pat Tillman
It is THE one thing about these wars that has frosted and opened the eyes of the stay the course bush lovers here.
Tillman was revered here and deeper that they dig that hole about his death, the worse it is for the GOP.
From kids who went to college with Tillman & friends is that he was writing a book and it would of been released as soon as he returned from Afghanistan. Kind of makes you understand why they burned his diary doesn’t it?
Bay State Librul @ 120
Meds no doubt.
Bay State Librul @ 110
Just think what it will be like to watch someone competent talking from behind that podium in ‘09, watch someone competent take over as VP, someone competent as AG…
That’s when it will end. I wish I could believe that it would end sooner. Watching GWB right now, it’s hard to fathom how he graduated from any college at all, let alone two prestigious ivy leagues that are “reach” schools for most students…
“liquidity” and “empathy” – “flexibility”, “precipitous”
now he’s just showin’ off.
Come on George, stay awake now – it’s almost over
this is beyond bizarre.
He’s just about to leave on vacation – and he can barely, just barely make it out of the presser.
He keeps sighing and taking deep breaths…
Laura’s gonna be pissed when she checks her X*n*x bottle.
jayt @ 143
that’s what I was thinking… he sounds very tranquqilized…
Maybe he has Ambi*n hangover.
CocoaBeach @ 101
heart is still in your throat, eh? wish the media would cover it better. maybe if they lifted off during prime time? oh well. btw, my mom and niece were at the KSC south gate (she lives a few miles down Courtenay from the gate) to see it. Never fails to amaze.
oh! now he’s looking forward to trials for the Gitmo prisoners!
my gawd!
radiofreewill @ 141
Why’s he going to Maine when this year’s brush crop is ready for harvest at his brush ranch?
It all depends on what the meaning of the word torture is.
-GSD
The good news he wants to tell you but can’t, is that his meds for lyme disease won’t have any adverse reactions with alcolhol.
Red Cross: CIA techniques tantamount to torture
Bush: Goal of nation to close Guantanamo. Other nations’ fault, they won’t take back their people. People don’t want killers in their midst and many of these people are killers. (Except most aren’t) Complicated subject. (It’s hard) We don’t torture. (press conference momentarily suspended as Bush’s pants catch fire)
he needs a spokesman
pardon me, spokesperson.
These fascists are obsessed with secrecy while we lose more and more of our privacy.
Gordon at 126
Did you see the tag line at the end of the Spying Squirrels story?
‘A U.K. Foreign Officer source reportedly told Sky News: “The story is nuts.”‘
Sorry mods…didn’t know about Am….n. I thought I messed up my comment, so I commented again. :{
Elliott @ 152
Yes! Tony Snow should be right next to him offering translations.
GSD @ 148
It alll depends on what the meaning of the word torture is.
-GSD
I think it depends on what the meaning of “we” is.
oh, apparently Iraq is not allowed to speak to Iran.
“Put up your dukes. It is an old boxing expression”. “Let me finish please!” You cannot make this up.
Chimpy calls Maliki a liar.
Dick.
-GSD
there should be some great clips from Stewart & Colbert tomorrow on C & L
Hugh @ 151
But … but … but … the Brits are asking for their back … wanna bet they won’t get them? Especially since the Brits also mumbled something about CLOSING Gitmo!
this is the most convoluted crap I’ve ever heard…
TiredFed @ 146
There’s nothing like it if you’ve been lucky enough to see one launch. BTW, here’s the NASA link to live shuttle coverage. Great antidote to the toxicity created by watching this presser:
NASA TV Public Channel
OldCoastie @ 163
Have you ever caught a 7 yr old with their hand in the cookie jar 10 minutes before dinner? They tell more coherent lies.
Oh yeah. The US is using U2 spy planes on Americans now.
Meanwhile, Russia has begun Cold War style bomber flights over Guam.
Talk about priorities.
-GSD
Bush is an extremist element.
“robust” seems to be the word of the morning.
I just fell asleep between a couple of his sentences…did he just say he read about the airstrike on Sadr City in the paper?
Iran: destruction of Israel, uranium enrichment, Hezbollah (I’m surprised that he didn’t bring up Iraq) More stump speech stuff. Iran hurting itself. Difficult. Finally brings up Iraq but no specifics.
Does Maliki share your opinion? He understands that they want to kill innocent life. Sadr City, robust operation, (incoherent ramblings) Maliki against extremist elements. (Usual conflation. Shia, Sunni)
it used to make me dizzy trying to figure out what the shrub is saying – apparently I was trying too hard to make it make sense…
now, I’ve realized it makes no sense and the dizziness is gone…
On the shuttle.
I really wish they would stop wasting money and risking people’s lives (1 in 100 is a pretty high risk to take) for no real purpose other than publicity for NASA. The only thing that I can recall the Shuttle has accomplished was fixing the Hubble. Nada mas.
Rove-bust.
-GSD
Don’t corporations pay the least amount of tax at any time in history?
It’s difficult to imagine junior topping his usual incoherence but he is really a mess today.
It’s *not good* to have a President who is so obviously over-whelmed.
In his diminished state, he would think saloon doors were trying to attack him.
*not good*
“More corporate tax-cuts?”
Georgie’s perking right up after that one.
TexBetsy @ 173
He wants to assure spots on corporate boards for himself and his relatives.
I’m having a hard time figuring out his code
Marie Roget @ 164
Not to be a stick in the mud but everytime a Shuttle goes up there are more NSA spy satelites. I for one could do without.
Each time one of those so-called journalists laughs at chimpy’s funnyisms I just want to throw up. If they were laughing *at* him, it’d be one thing but these idjits laugh *with* him………..and *at* everyone of us.
It would all make sense if you spoke Spirochete, I’m sure.
Elliott @ 178
I think that was explained in “The Satanic Verses”.
Corporate tax rates, Aren’t they making enough? Bush: Competitive, revenue neutral, simpler tax code, (none of this makes sense), tax code creates a competitive disadvantage, needs to be looke at. (Yeah, record high corporate profits show how disadvantaged they are)
Something inarticulate about hedge funds and then on to next question.
Christy, a week ago I was able to live blog a wonderful panel you and Marcy participated in at YKos. No trouble at all. Lightning pace sometimes. And now I am lost in Bush’s slow-paced crapfest. Am I losing my touch?
What’s an appropriator?
Dammit, the power just flickered again. We’re having a massive heat wave and we had a complete power failure yesterday. Hope it doesn’t happen again today…arrrrrgh.
I am soo glad I am not watching this alone, I need pups for this
Marie Roget @ 139
Just think what it will be like to watch someone competent talking from behind that podium in ‘09….
You are more optimistic than I. IMO, the system for picking presidential candidates guarantees the person elected will be competent at only one thing — politics.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 109
Redd, if you ever go, plan on at least a couple of days. They never go early, but they delay often. The first launch was a mess of delays – I had to drive back and forth from school in Tampa back then. If they ever launch at night again, that would be one to see. I’ve seen one night shot from the roof of my parents house. Lights up the whole place like it’s daytime. And I have family all over the island if you need a place to stay!
Christy Hardin Smith @ 184
crossing fingers & toes for you!
Huh! George Bush convinces a compliant Congress to write legislation in direct conflict with the Fourth Amendment and he’s the one with cognitive defects!
TexB at 184 — Nah, he’s speaking in WSJ-ese. Unless you are familiar with their econ. shorthand, it’s tough to follow. But even being somewhat familiar with it, he’s still not making a lot of coherent sense today. It’s really weird — I see where he’s trying to go with a lot of this, I think, but he’s not connecting it together appropriately.
Marie Roget @ 164
I agree. I saw the first and many in between, but I wish I hadn’t been in Titusville the day the Challenger took off. :(
“Lewis Libby was held accountable.”
ACKKKKK!!!
Cut taxes, reduced deficits (due to receipts from rich Americans and high corporate profits meanwhile the middle class and poor languish)
Lewis Libby was held accountable. (My tired *ss) Abu OTOH has done nothing wrong. Typical DC assumption.
These are disappinting questions.
I thought the official netroots explanation for Bush’s cognative difficulties was leftover effects from his time as an alcoholic? Could that interact with the Lyme effects? I also understand he seldom wears his tin foil hat.
Now he’s ragging on congress because they’re holding hearings.
OMG. This is totally inane. And here comes “cutting corporate taxes.” It’s another riff of empty phrases–no substance anywhere. Just phrases connected with “uhs”–no connections. Here comes attack on Congress now: They can’t focus on priorities. He hopes for their cooperation. Doesn’t answer the question about funding Iraq and cutting taxes. Can he continue this level of spending? He says Sure, I’m supporting the troops! They need full support of the federal govt.
Here comes accountability: How have you held people in your govt. accountable? Scooter was held accountable. Gonzales: Congress hasn’t shown he’s done nothing wrong. Hearings after hearings but Congress can’t get appropriations bills to his desk.
What a waste of air space.
I would take it as a strong sign of diminished capacity if Bush were unable to change his Ideological views in the face of incontrovertable facts.
A broken record comes to mind…
“I’m a fair person…back to Iraq”…
“I haven’t seen Congress say that (Abu) has done anything wrong”.
Well, *I’ve* seen them say that.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 191
There’s that cognitive dissonance on display again – he COULD he make the connections?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 109
The Shuttle really IS inspiring…The Saturn V Apollo stack was even more exciting. If the Aries/Orion project is funded, we will be seeing that again from the Cape…unfortunately, unless the Congress gets off their hands, it won’t start until 2015, although there will be unmanned launches in 2009.
Great shot of Helen Thomas staring at him with a look of disgusted incredularity…
I don’t know which is more disturbing to me: junior spouting his bs gibberish with utmost cockiness or what I am seeing now. He is really off his game & twitchy. Makes me nervous.
Frank33 @ 195
They are always disappointing. Sick, cowed and decadent press whores.
Oops. Failure emboldens terrorists. The terrorists must really be emboldened you asshole.
Because the war has been a rolling failure since 2003.
-GSD
TexBetsy @ 193
Not death-row, no clemency accountable. More of a rich white guy kind of accountable. Republican accountable.
IT MATTERS that we stop this madman.
Long-serm security. He just said that.
“I would not send a mother’s child into Eyerack if I did not believe it was necessary”
ick.
Tired Fed @ 192- God, sorry you had to be there. I remember that day vividly- a colleague came into my office with a look I’d never seen before on his face & a radio that was blaring the news…
I meant Bush says Congress hasn’t shown Gonzales has done anything wrong.
Pelosi Update:
My Left Nutmeg has frontpaged a post about Nancy’s visit to CT today.
Apparently there are going to be a lot of people demonstrating in order to get Pelosi to put impeachment back on the table. And I imagine that many folks will be there to talk with Pelosi about her FISA failures as well.
If you can make it, please go and make your voice heard!! And if you have a video camera, bring it!
http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/sh…..aryId=7719
August 9 — Nancy Pelosi will be in Stamford, CT at a fundraiser for Chris Murphy at Il Falco Restaurant, 59 Broad Street, from 12:00 – 1:30 pm.
As always- “mistakes were made” and Clusterfuck accepts full responsibility…
Why are we in Iraq? “Forces of good versus forces of intolerance.”
“I firmly believe”
Not evidence. Not what other countries want. Not what this country wants. Just what he believes. What a crock!
His hollow, lifeless beady eyes are especially disturbing when he speaks about freedom and democracy and liberty.
-GSD
Has he mentioned Iran, yet?
Matthews quickly pulls out his pud and starts whacking away.
-GSD
.Frank33 @ 213
Why are we in Iraq? “Forces of good versus forces of intolerance.”
tres scary.
OldCoastie @ 209
Well, not rich White Republican mother’s children, anyhow.
Must have told us about the Lyme disease just in case Clusterfuck’s head explodes from all the lyin.
Iraq matters because enemies would be emboldened by failure. More stump speech twaddle. 19 kids lured on our planes to murder Americans?!? (hallucinating I think)
Articles of Confederation? Early nation getting started. US in Middle East to promote liberty. (Yeah, right, oil and Israel has nothing to do with it)
Can we succeed in Iraq? We can and must. (i.e. stay the course on stay the course)
Tweety: This president ready to fight like a rock.
What does that mean?
tweety’s got a hard-on.
Frank33 @ 206
It really matters!
Did you see the way he walked off the podium stage? His swagger has moved to stagger. He looked like he was having difficulty walking.
rwcole @ 221
How did he get that nose out the door?
Hugh @ 222
Well, they’re also emboldened by stoopid.
Foghead Longnose
LS @ 222
Tweety: This president ready to fight like a rock.
What does that mean?
I think he meant that GWB is gonna fight armed with the intelligence of a rock. IOW, business as usual.
Could our pretzelnit have been bitten while varmint hunting with Mitt? You know Mitt’s an avid varmint hunter occasionally.
And I saw Christy on c-span last night.
Just a happy pup in NYC.
My president has lyme disease.
Turn off chimpy and read this one………..it’s for Christy and Jane and all of us who love the Lake and everything it stands for:
http://www.reuters.com/article…..09?sp=true
A few years ago when I was walking around town in Rio, I happened to feel my stomach under my shirt (why I did this I don’t know) and found a tick. I had just been hiking at a reserve in mountains south of there (Bocaina) where I must have picked it up. I immediately thought “F—” and knew I’d have to be aware of any strangeness in coming weeks. Sure enough, two weeks later I had crazy arthritic pain in my knee and a big toe and felt mildly flu-like but no rash. Oddly, I had already forgotten about the tick bite but remembered it suddenly when I was researching the differential diagnosis for arthralgias. Turns out the one place in all of South America where Lyme disease is found is in the little area where I was. I took Doxycycline for a few weeks. Thankfully, I haven’t had any noticeable problems. Come to think of it, I just did a favor being a test bunny for a grad student (my lovely other) doing a neuropsych testing battery and did darn well. Who knows, the tick bite might have done me some good.
Matthews is an idiot. If he is ever right about anything it is pure accident. Wait 5 minutes and it will pass.
As I keep saying, cable news has nothing to do with news, facts, information, or reality in general.
Tweety is really fucked up…
I think he is manic-depressive
Are CSpan callers all nuts?
Administration scared of what Powell might say:
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/….._0809.html
Could W be more cognitively defective than he already was? That strains credulity and these guys are looking for an excuse here. The casa blanco press attache is really looking for cover here.
After watching most of the presser, I have to disagree. He wasn’t on drugs, he was stone cold sober. It’s just that he had an unfamiliar voice telling him what to say on the other end of the wire. Lots of pauses. Some unfamiliar big words said very care-full-ee. But when he got on familiar turf (war on terror, good ol’ Manichean world view stuff) he was his old swaggerin’ sef.
TexBetsy @ 238
With occasional exceptions, yes.
According to my Bush Watch I got for a gift, there are 725 days left (BW-725) of the Bush presidency.
Chris Matthews’ political savvy is like the weather in New England.
Give it a few minutes, it’ll change.
-GSD
Has the secret Operation Chimp Prop-up directive been sent out? The media is fellating Bush like he’s Churchill.
a CSPAN caller just said simply
“Bush can kiss my *ss.”
Elliott @ 245
ah, so there are some callers who aren’t nuts.
Tweety: Were you amazed at the well-developed argument he made for Irak, and that region…etc.”
Did anyone here see a well-developed argument about anything – other than the evils of alcohol and drugs?
That’s it – I did my duty and watched this crap – I’m outta here.
Tweety thinks he comes across *so* well in extended settings like this. I’m living in the land of the truly insane.
GordonM @ 241
Pretty close to the truth. Bush is very inarticulate until he can latch on to some piece of a stump speech he has given a hundred times then his disjointed ramblings smooth out briefly and he uses words that are not typical for him.
He’s off to Kennefuck, Maine…
and then Crawfuck…
I’m ashamed to be an American.
How did we get this far… Gonzo did nothing
wrong?
The space program as it is… a waste of money and an enormous source of polution.
It’s time to stop the feint… it’s a DOD front NASA that is.
They are weaponizing space.
Let’s get real.
Elliott @ 245
Isn’t that a little risky? Ya know, with the Lyme disease and all.
I am seriously creeped out-neck hair standing up-after watching junior today. Some very bad energy going on there.
LS @ 238
I’m glad to know this, LS, but what Powell says makes no nevermind to me anymore.
http://www.truebluewomen.org/kc/index.php
ironranger @ 252
Speaking of – anyone seen Alfred?
N=1 @ 255
Chatted with him yesterday. He’s doing well.
SanderO @ 250
One of the reasons that the Space Shuttle was as poorly designed as it was was to accommodate the Pentagon. Ironically, the DOD bailed on it anyway. Nowadays the military do most of their own launching. I support space exploration but I agree that NASA has become a bureaucratc monstrosity.
Anthony Cordesman, the third man, is up on CSPAN 1
The Tenuous Case For Strategic Patience in Iraq (I think)
Fresh thread for everyone…
Wish I hadn’t watch the presser- now I’ll have to buy some Rolaids on the way in to work.
Read you all later.
P.S. Despite the reasons cited above for disapproving of our mini-steps toward space exploration in this country (most of which disapproval I actually agree with), I still find it all to be exciting & inspiring…
New threadage.
Not likely he’d have cognitive deficits this soon.
However, Lyme disease from a tick bite 15-20 years ago could definitely result in significant cognitive deficits, personality changes, etc.
I saw a clip on the net of Bush in Texas giving a speech when he ran for governor, where he didn’t look/sound like such a jerk, and then a later clip, where he had become the malicious dolt we all know so well.
No Blood for Hubris @ 262
I’ve seen that comparison clip too. It really shows that something is probably wrong… or that cocaine makes you a better public speaker.
Personal opinion:
Those who think the space program should be shut down get to live with surprise blizzards and hurricanes, and shouldn’t complain about the forecasts missing them.
Be careful, or I’ll sic a friend on you: fifteen minute rant on ‘what has NASA ever done for us’.
A year ago?
How does that explain 1946 through 2006?
Hugh@257: The Shuttle WAS a compromise design, although the compromise was not so much between Pentagon and civilian (although that was there) so much as it was a tradeoff between reuseable and not. The reuseable concept was great, if you could have reused the giant hydrogen tank and made it routine. But the tiling system which was the best they could do with 60s and 70s technology was too cumbersome and had as Challenger and Columbia proved, fatal flaws. NASA HAD been exempted from the bureaucratic mumbo-jumbo pre-Challenger and was really a fun place to work, but post-Challenger was subject to military style procurement and GAO red-tape. Hence, it IS too bureaucratic for its own good. Having said that, one of the few tasks Government is good at doing is exploration. The search for life and resources on Mars and the the asteroid belt can still inspire technological spinoffs on Earth that nothing quite like it can do. So, I would hope NASA could resume its role as a bureaucratic-free Agency keen on manned and unmanned exploration and given a budget that doesn’t compromise safety and science.
1946 through 2006.
That’s genetics.
And possibly the unhappiness of having been unwanted — Did Poppy have to marry Barbie because he got her knocked up?
Hmm.
So, the
lyingwhite house press corp. wants us to believe GWB’s behaviors are attributable to lyme disease. Whaddya bet it’s Alzheimers. They lied about Reagan, why would this be any different?I believe a tick burrowed into ‘w’s brain long ago…that tick..was the the 4th Branch.
America hears the ALARM…Hits Snooze One More Time
As the “resident in the Oval Office” , Congress, and the Iraqi Parliament enjoy vacation together, the 4th Branch remains in the DC creating another ill conceived strategy for his next Corporate War. Hear the Drumbeat, America. The neo con drum circle are beating their drums with intensity. Its almost wartime…again…
http://newssophisticate.blogsp…..-more.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08…..ref=slogin
after reading this article ascribing Bush sr.’s attitude towards his son as being like a father watching a little league game, I just have to ask what in hell these NY Times writers are thinking.
Good lord.
Thank heavens for Firedoglake and the rest of the blogging community; finally a source of news for adults.
David
I quit my infectious disease fellowship after the first year & switched to pulmonary medicine (hence my moniker)…so i have many unanswered questions about the disease…does it come in any other flavors?…I don’t think we can attribute w’s brainlock to a tick bite on his butt…he was like that already…but it’s silly not to mention it…my poor aussie shepherd had an awful time with it, but perked up pretty fast on doxy
mucouswelby @ 271
Gee. Reverse double Heck coincidence: I quit my plans pursue PhD as field biologist because of coming down with Lyme disease several years before it was even named. Of course, untreated. Yeah, I now have titanium knees, but published the Masters anyway, and apparently survived. So-o-o, any time you guys wanna “file” whatever I say appropriately, you know know I’m certifiably bonkers. Or… maybe that has nothing to do with it.
Seriously, nasty disease. No fun. Symptoms can come & go for decades after initial infection. Glad the lil’ twerp was treated. We don’t need him any more impaired. Nosiree.
Hey. Maybe I can plead insanity if I ever am forced to meet booooooosh face-to-face and can’t overcome my urge to tell him precisely what I think of him. ;->
What I want to know is “how is the tick doing”. Did he die or just get as sick as we all are of Geo Bush?
fillphil @ 273
Maybe she laid a whole bunch of eggs that grew into ticks immune to dumbya.
This is left baiting baloney, I hate this MF and be sure he isn’t stupid or a victim of Lyme disease.
This is yet another way to become the butt of the joke thus easily distracting from the many many cynical crimes committed by this nazi piece of filth.