Chris Matthews,you’re fired.

The first thing outta the fool’s mouth was how small Edwards looked in a freaking stadium. Insinuating,of course,that he’s small,weak,teeny,a speck in the field of candidates.

Can I just ask,who WOULD NOT look small in a stadium?

A little while later the lot of ‘em started yammering about DC Insiders picking the candidates,and yippity yappity. I have another question. Isn’t Chris Matthews a freaking inside the Beltway guy? Aren’t most of the others guys on his”post debate analysis”show?

And really,how MANY times did he have to show Hillary saying”I’m your girl” to fight the right wing clip?

Surely Chris has enough money to go enjoy himself for the rest of his life,yes? I so wish he’d retire,buy a golf course or something.

This crap is hurting the country,people really need to start telling these morons to shut up.

Boy, that was my reaction exactly!!! I couldn’t watch Matthews.

I did think, however, the Keith was a great moderator — except for his insistence of starting with Richardson every time & working his way down the line. Start at the other end occasionally.

Owlbear1 @44, No pictures? WTC 7 had many valuable law enforcement records, NSA CIA etc. It was abandoned before the WTC 2 fell. If 20 floors had been taken out of 47 story building there should be pictures. Some unnamed person must have had ESP to warn that WTC 7 would collapse.

It took a while to get the hose there because there was a White Plains company helping us and they had some different fittings. So we got water to 22, but then that�s when they said all right, number 7 is coming down, shut everything down. I don�t know what time that was. It was all just a blur.

Your “Undamaged” Tower 7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afb7eUHr64U

Finally, China is threatening to dump their dollar reserves if the US plays hardball on trade issues.

China does not want to revalue the yuan any faster than they are now – about 9% in the past 18 months.

This will hurt China too as a lower US$ simply bankrupts their FE reserves. But that’s China’s way to say, well, we can’t entirely stop you from hurting us economically but we’ll give as good as we get if not better.

Of course Bush knew where Afghanistan was. His whole family and friends are in the oil business. Don’t buy the incompetent crappola. This stuff is by design.

There’s no oil in Afghanistan, lots and lots of poppies though.

Eli @ 27
I was good. I ignored your comment.

I was intrigued when John Pilger said on democracynow this today that W wanted to attack (invade?) Afghanistan before 9/11. I think I heard it right. It was toward the end of the program, and I can’t imagine that’s accurate. That all-but-Allah-foresken-place that was the graveyard of the Evil Empire? Probably not worth trying to find out more about what he meant. I’m not familiar with Pilger, but he seemed like a solid citizen.
http://www.democracynow.org/streampage.pl

I watched John Pilger on Democracy Now but I don’t remember this bit but you may be right in which case I’m at a loss to make sense of it unless he meant Iraq.

BTW Pilger is an expatriate Aussie but Australia proved to be too conservative and too small for him and became an expatriate in the 1970s I think. He is a prolific writer and documentary film maker and has developed a committed following over the last 50 years, on a par with Chomsky although not as an academic and not so internationally well known. He still does occassional pieces for Australian TV – usually SBS, sometimes ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation).

I think Hugh is right in his observation that Bush Jnr didn’t know where on the map Afghanistan was in 2001. Watching him on TV with Karzai, I wasn’t sure what to make of it all. After contradicting his guest re Iran’s role in the region, he went on to pontificate how Ahmadinejad is isolating Iran before asserting US policy to isolate Iran.

Thinking of frogs and firecrackers, how come the Dems never made much of this in 2004? In any other country this would have been a political death knell unless the US electorate prefers to elect psychopaths as their leaders.

A short-notice repeat from the “Again?” thread for any Live Free or Die patriots who can make it (if no one else has yet copied this forward):

CyndiM says:
August 7th, 2007 at 5:51 pm

Short notice but:

Pelosi will be at a lunch reception with
Congressman Paul Hodes tomorrow:
August 8, 2007
12 p.m. – 1:30 p.m.
Kimball House at the Capitol Center for the Arts
44 South Main Street, Concord, NH 03301

Pass it on.

Anyone familiar with these blogs?

http://www.democracyfornewhampshire.com/

http://www.bluehampshire.com

Seems they are progressive and would be good to get informed people out to give Nancy a little heat about taking the CONSTITUTION off the table by her little legislative maneouvres.

Elliott @ 172

I still don’t get that. No explanation does it for me. Why is that man on the loose?

Because he is incredibly valuable to the Republicans. Where would they be without a scary boogeyman?

And remember it was Fitz who issued the sealed conspiracy indictment against OBL in relation to the two East African Embassy attacks.

As some more reasoned heads have argued…you only have to leave the window open if you want the rain to flood the kitchen. There is a lot of strong evidence that Bush, Condi, Tenet, Coford Black, Cheney, etc. knew very well that there was going to be a terrorist attack “on the US using hijacked aircraft as bombs”. Stuff like the Black/Tenet briefing of Condy in July 2001 where Cofer Black said such an attack was “imminent” and a “10 out of 10″. And Condy ordered all those Spada missile batteries around the Genoa G-8 Conference…she and Bush even stayed on the USS Enterprise carrier with jets on the deck on 24 hour alert. Why? Well, even before the July 2001 conference the Italian, British, Russian and other security agencies said to the media…”the US thinks al Qaeda is going to crash a hijacked jet into the site”.

So they knew something was going to happen against a primary US target…and the WTC (along with the Pentagon, WH and Congress) was certainly in the Top-10 of those targets.

And guess what was supposed to happen in Lower Manhatten on September 12th? That was when the Embassy bombers were going to finally be sentenced for their part in the al Qaeda attacks. Of course, that hearing was suspended after 9/11!

So there is very good evidence of INTENTIONAL neglect…to well past the point of criminal negligence. But like others I don’t think there was any thought that this would be a “trifecta”. Or successful on the scale it was…they likely recalled that B-52 crashing into the Empire State building.

But anyone who actually bothers to read the Material Science literature on what happened when the jets crashed into WTC 1 and 2 will find that a) you don’t have to melt the stell structure to cause collapse (you simply need to reach much lower bending force temperatures); and b) the WTC complex was built under the principles of a flying buttress, with the 7 sub-story of all the “buildings” interconnected and supporting the foundation of the others.

And imagine the incredible unlikelihood of the hijackers crashing into the buildings precisely at the floor where the “conspiracy” had planted their thermite (yes the videos of the collapse show that this is where the collapse initiated in WTC 1 and 2…not at the base as at WTC 7)…and none of the jet fuel managed to ignite the highly flammable thermite charges????

Oh yeah…robot controlled planes! There really were no hijackers (and the passengers were simply placed under some witness-protection program down on a ranch in Paraguay). But if these were robots, why not have a plane hit WTC 7 if that was their “real target”? Robots could do THAT! Then there wouldn’t be all the mess of explaining it’s collapse (using thermite, of course).

And the “conspiracy” just happened to fail to time their explosives to when the planes would strike? Maybe they failed to set their watches to DST or something? Or couldn’t afford the cost of a cell-phone detonator? Oh…they didn’t “want” a lot of casualties…give a hour to evacuate! But then why not attack at NIGHT…or just before the workday?

I wish the “conspiracy theorists”out there would apply the same critical thinking to the “facts” that they are ladled out and then they might actually get at what is the REAL ISSUE.

I wouldn’t be surprised if 90% of the 9/11 “doubter” material is actually spurious information promulgated to discredit those that swallow it. Seems I recall a current Presidential Political Aide who is well-known for doing just THAT

Eli @ 27
I was good. I ignored your comment.

I was intrigued when John Pilger said on democracynow this today that W wanted to attack (invade?) Afghanistan before 9/11. I think I heard it right. It was toward the end of the program, and I can’t imagine that’s accurate. That all-but-Allah-foresken-place that was the graveyard of the Evil Empire? Probably not worth trying to find out more about what he meant. I’m not familiar with Pilger, but he seemed like a solid citizen.
http://www.democracynow.org/streampage.pl

Mebe it had something to do with the Taliban not playing ball with the proposed Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline. Messing with 3-5 trillion dollars worth of natural gas and oil from the Caspian Sea? Hmmm, sounds like somebody has got to die………

Not to mention the third building had parts of the first two tear 20 story holes in it.

Look into the effect that having tornado force compression would have on adjacent understories…when the substructures no longer provide adequate foundational support for the surrounding structures. The WTC complex really wasn’t “several buildings” at all. It was a single building with several towers…two of them massive.