Reader Mauimom, who used to work in a Congressional office back in the day, sent along some tips that I think are fantastic about contacting your elected representatives by phone, mail or FAX. And I wanted to pass along a number of them to everyone else who wants to participate in the “You Work For Us Summer Tour.”
Postcards, especially, are a quick and easy way to communicate with your members of Congress. You can buy them pre-stamped at the post office, dash off a few lines, and pop them in the postbox. Easy! More now from Mauimom:
Here are some suggestions about contacting your Representative and Senators.
First, remember what’s going on here. You are NOT, in all likelihood, going to change your Congress Critter’s mind. [This is especially true if your Congress Critter is "out there."] What you are doing is letting your Critter know that there’s a VOTER in his/her district who has been paying enough attention to notice the Critter’s vote on an issue.
Second, remember the difference between Senators’ offices and those of Representatives: a Senator has to deal with an entire state. That means LOTS of mail. A Representative — not so much (but still a fair amount).
Third, what gets their attention is mail [or phone calls, e-mail, or FAXes]. LOTS of mail….In a Senate office especially, the Senator is not likely to see what you wrote. So your eloquent prose and flawless reasoning are not going to sway the day.
The full mailbags of polite but angry letters will. It’s a game of numbers. (And BTW, that genuine-looking signature on the “thank you” letter will definitely be written with an auto-pen.)
Mail comes into the office [the DC office, anyway] and is opened & sorted by the lowest person on the staff totem pole. It’s “tallied” — first, letters (or postcards or FAXes or e-mails) are divided according to issue and counted. Then, for “big” issues, the pros/cons are tallied: X many letters “for” an issue; Y many letters “against.” The results are usually relayed to the Senator/Rep. or his/her chief of staff.
Sometimes a few “representative” letters will be pulled out by the legislative assistant or someone else, to give the Congress Critter an idea of what the mail’s like. It all depends on the Critter: some care (especially new ones), some don’t.
Someone on the staff is assigned to write a vanilla/milquetoast response for each issue. [”Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts with me. I will certainly keep them in mind when this issue comes to the floor.” ]
You can spot the drill: they’re trying to make you feel as though your writing mattered, trying to provide a little “info” about what a great person your Critter is, etc. This end of the exchange [the letter to you] doesn’t really matter. [You don't believe in the Tooth Fairy any more, do you?] What’s important is that you’ve sent a message to them.
In addition to his/her DC office, your Critter has one or more “district” or “home” offices. Most constituents know about the DC office & write their Critter there, but the home office(s) will usually keep a tally of mail as well. So hey, spend an extra 24 cents and send a postcard to the district office(s) as well.
Here are some ways to maximize your impact:
*Go sit at your breakfast table, write a SHORT note, identifying yourself as a constituent, and give ‘em a POLITE earful.
*Send one note to the DC office of your Critter, another [one or two] to the “District Office(s)” — they will be listed in your phone book.
*Tell as many of your friends, family, co-workers, etc. to do likewise. Offer to provide them with names, addresses, text. (I send out a “mass e-mail” to my friends, urging them to write. On the current FISA issue, I’ve gone through my “friends” list, identified people in states with Traitorous Dems, provided a summary of the issue/vote, suggested a brief point or two to be made, and included the respective Critter’s addresses. And then begged them to write.)
*You can call, write, e-mail and FAX. You want to generate a “man, are they pissed” reaction at the Congressional office.
*Some have pointed out that it may be more effective to send a postcard rather than a letter. It may get through faster, since it doesn’t have to go through whatever “anthrax screening” may still be operating. Same is true for a FAX.
Quality does count for a bit. As someone said, as a staffer it’s nice to read something “readable” as opposed to a crazy rant. But, the truth is each communication represents a “voter.” No intelligence or style test before going into the voting booth – Congress Critters know that.
You’re basically trying — with respect to the most recalcitrant, pig-headed ones — to let them know there’s a voter out there [hell, there are LOTS of voters out there] who pays attention to the news, who feels strongly about an issue, who knows who his/her Congress Critter is, who knows how his/her Critter voted on this important issue, and who will remember all of this when the next election comes around.
Many “bad” Critters rely on the fact that most voters don’t pay attention to the issues. They believe they can sway them with platitudes and tv spots.
But above all, most Critters want to stay in office. Even if your card/letter/phone call/e-mail/FAX, and those of your many friends/relatives/co-workers don’t “change a mind,” they WILL put a little fear into your Critter and make him/her just a little less sure he/she can pull off the usual song & dance.
Excellent suggestions. Also, there are many more priceless gems to be mined from this classic TRex “guide to writing the angry letter.” Do take the time to read that one, it is incredibly useful, and I use it as my own personal guide to angry letter-writing when I have writer’s block. (Yes, it does happen.) And I know we have many more former staffers out there in the readership, so please chime in with suggestions and/or thoughts in the comments on how we can all make our communication with our elected representatives more impactful and effective.
I am particularly interested as well in suggestions for face-to-face meetings — either at public events or in-office arranged meetings, because I have been told by a number of staffers that those are particularly effective in terms of immediate impact. Thoughts? Please share!
(Photo of letters being written with iPod via fernando [pixelstains].)
UPDATE: Oh, also — I meant to mention this: if folks come up with good, short, pithy missives for postcards, do share them in the comments. Thanks!
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(((((((Christy and Jane)))))))
Christy!
Good morning, Christy!
I passed the word to the folks downstairs.
NYT is going to pull the plug on Select. Soon the rest of us peasants will be able to read them again.
Excellent! And yes to the fax. E-mails get deleted, snail mails are often diverted due to the anthrax scare, but a mound of faxes coming through the feeder is a very tangible manifestation of our will.
Biden on wnyc.org. “kos is worthwhile, but I’ll have many opportunities to speak to them.”
BL: Are netroots now moral core of the party?
Biden: They are part of it. Outrage at FISA is shared by me.
Did anyone see Joe Klein on Scarborough’s show this morning? I heard he ranted against lefty bloggers. Basically echoing Tucker “The Fuc-er” Carlson’s rant calling us all “scumbags”.
RevDeb @ 4
What, you mean people weren’t willing to pay good money to read David Brooks and Tom Friedman?! I’m shocked! (Not.) (Especially as Krugman’s fans made a point of passing around his columns for free, and the Krugster’s one of the few reasons to read the Op-Ed page most days.)
eCAHNomics @ 6
Biden will long be gone from the race by the time he has another opportunity to “speak to them” (us). He’s more interested in being on the talking heads.
Awesome! Thanks for all of this. I bought 100 post-paid postcards yesterday. Might have to go back for more tomorrow. *g*
I hear from an unusually well-informed source that numbers matter a lot.
Get your friends and neighbors to send these postcards, you can provide them stamped and addressed and ready for their short messages.
And it does help if you’re polite even when you’re angry. Perhaps especially when you’re angry.
eCAHNomics @ 6
That’s excellent.
RevDeb @ 4
Interesting, if you have an edu email address it’s free now.
Christy hello! Welcome back from YKos!
I’ve posted this this link in the past. It is important to read from the standpoint of understanding letter writing impact. A must visit site for understanding the impact We The People can have on issues and preservation of our Constitution. I also linked on the previous post. Letter writing is very effective citizen action.
The Country is lurching down the path of less reason and more ideology.
Madness…
barbara @ 10
You can order postcards online from the post office.
I email a lot and call periodically. Here’s what happens on the emails:
1) Durbin: Receive an email or snail mail stating his position on the issue.
2) Obama: No response. Ever. (Guess who I’m not supporting for President….)
3) Melissa Bean: Email acknowledgment that she received my email. Used to receive phone calls telling me when she was going to be in the area, probably because I was a campaign contributor. Now that I don’t contribute to her campaign, I receive no news about her appearances.
One woman’s experience with democracy.
Biden: It is U.S. policy to do uninvited incursions into Pak. But we shouldn’t talk about it. That’s why Obama was wrong.
radiofreewill @ 15
Al Gore’s “Assault on Reason” deals with this very issue. A good read.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 7
Did anyone see Joe Klein on Scarborough’s show this morning? I heard he ranted against lefty bloggers. Basically echoing Tucker “The Fuc-er” Carlson’s rant calling us all “scumbags”.
I did. Basically he just whined out his usual complaints about left-leaning blogs being full of people who are mean, vitriolic, and foul-mouthed. But he *did* add – “But not *all* of them”. Big whoop.
And, in the same-old, same-old category, I see David Gregory on MSNBC this morning. Has anyone else noticed his diminished presence since his ill-advised and poorly executed, ‘rap-dance with Rove’? Gregory used to do the stand-in gig for Tucker, Matthews and others on MSNBC when they were absent – now it seems the mantle has been passed to Shuster, whose credibility is more intact.
Someone on the staff is assigned to write a vanilla/milquetoast response for each issue. [”Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts with me. I will certainly keep them in mind when this issue comes to the floor.” ]
Yup. Got one of those on my desk right now.
great idea Redd. gonna go buy some postage-paid postcards at lunch.
Wow. What a great post. I have always wondered how the mail is handled in a congressional office, since it makes common sense that very little of it is read carefully.
I have been a fan of the post card method since 1982, when I went to a Holly Near concert in which she made the suggestion to send one post card a day. I don’t often manage one a day, though I think it is a good goal–and quite doable, so I am going to try to take a post card with me to the mailbox when I walk the dog in the am.
Here is a question I have–do congressional offices keep a database of which constituents write repeatedly and how often?
I will write a letter and go to my local copy store and send it by fax. How’s that. Also I called for a meeting (mentioned end of last thread) with Amy Klobachar’s office. I have to send an email to her D.C. office to get an appointment with a staffer. So I will do that.
Also, Balrog, NolaSue, other MN people, I am in if we are going to meet in group to see Amy. Will post when, and if, I get a response. Maybe we could all send an email for an appointment and see how that sits with her office. ;=)
OT : British request release of GITMO prisoners. Because they’re so NOT Tony Blair anymore.
Called Sen Klobuchar’s Fort Snelling office this am & got a knowledgeable staffer this time. Yesterday this kid told me to call the DC office because that was where the policy makers are.
GrandmaJ @ 24
I’m in.
One last point: Try to be direct. Don’t apply irony or doubly negatives. Most of the time, your note will be quickly scanned by some low level staffer and a check mark will be put in a box somewhere. If you apply irony or complicated syntax, the person reading your note might check off the wrong box. Keep it simple, especially in the first paragraph.
ironranger @ 26
I called just minutes ago. The staffer said that I should watch her website for any meetings she might have scheduled in my area (Zimmerman,MN) and that I could send an email to D.C. to request a meeting. She did ask what issue I wanted to ‘talk’ about and I said her FISA vote, among other things.
But they DON’T work for us. They work for lobbiests. My Rep couldn’t give a rat’s ass what I think. My Senators are the original Kool-Aid kids. They DO NOT work for us. They work AGAINST us. Welcome to Facism. Pick up your mandatory brown shirts at the door. This country stinks.
PWStrain @ 25
Good for them. Playing Lapdog doesn’t help the country.
I’ll keep all the above in mind when contacting HoJoe. I must say, it seemed like an exercise in futility. Numbers may make him equivocate even more.
David at 30 — Have you contacted them? Met with them? Spoken up to them at public meetings? If not, then you are ceding the ground to the lobbyists by inaction. Citizenship is something you have to work on every day — otherwise, you are leaving the conversation to the right wing, which has well-financed operations to prod these elected people, and to lobbyists who are equally well financed.
Dems have not put together the infrastructure to fight back on the same scale. So it is up to us to get up off our asses and DO something about it. If we don’t do it, it won’t get done. And I will be damned if I am leaving the conversation for the wingnuts and the big money interests only, thank you very much.
David @ 30
Who are your Senators?
allan_in_upstate @ 100
I got EPU’d but wanted to share this. When I went to the link I found my own comment Carmen F. to the right. I was bemoaning the fact that only Republicans were on to talk about the children’s health care bill.
Thanks Allan from upstate. It does occasionally make a difference to contact newsrooms, corporations and politicians.
Ditto Christy’s question about face-to-face meetings. I’ve been scouring Congressional websites this morning and they don’t tend to have listings for public appearances at town hall meetings, etc. I remember when I was in Oregon they used to list them in local Democratic chapters, but it was area-by-area.
Anybody know good state blogs with calendars? We’d love to give them a push.
I’m always behind on tech stuff, but I think I recall some sort of software that allows a computer to be a fax machine so if you don’t have a dedicated fax at home, you can fax a pdf of your letter from the computer. Perhaps a more savvy pup can tell everyone if:
a) this is true and if so
b) what software to use
BTW the anthrax screening really slows down all snail mail except post cards to DC (not sure about local offices), so fax or cards are the best.
This sounds like a good idea, but I can’t help but wonder if it’s worth the trouble.
Neither of the parties will put the American peoples’ well-being ahead of their party loyalty or hopes for reelection. This spineless, cowardly congress will just sign everything illegal into law to avoid us bugging them about it.
It’s all very disheartening, really.
House and Senate Dems introduce censure!
Oh and BTW, thanks mauimom. That was really helpful.
Christy,
RE: Face to face meetings
Years ago, I was an intern at the UN. When I returned to the US from Geneva, I found myself in DC about the time of the House and Senate votes regarding sanctions against South Africa. I went to visit my senators and reps because my internship had focused on South Africa and I was a walking factbook. I sat down in their offices with facts. I knew where to take them to show them my facts were substaintial. I challenged the research their staff had pulled together on the issue and asked that the staff varify their facts and that I would sit and wait for them to show me where they found their information. Many a staffer found themselves going back to the rep/senator and stating, “We may need to revise our research. It seems we have some inaccuracies and the facts presented in this meeting by the constituent appear to be substantiated.”
In the end, I changed a number of votes that week. Knowledge is power. Go in calm, articulate and more versed on the issue then their staff. Have your facts checked and rechecked as well as backed up from multiple sources. Be clear, simple, confident and to the point.
Additionally, follow the face-to-face with a letter to your local paper.
This country does NOT stink.
We do have the power to change things. Perhaps I’m being hopelessly naive, but although change comes slow, things will change as long as we, the citizens, keep writing, faxing, and challenging our government.
Imagine.
I miss John Lennon.
When are you guys going to figure out that the democrats work for lobbiests, not you. (just like the repugs) Give up on the democratic party, start working for a third party (green preferably).
Post cards only kill trees.
Klynn @ 40
Good on you. Nice to hear success stories.
I’m a Canadian. I don’t know a soul in the US. Is there anything I can do to help?
Whirledview gives another useful take: namely, it should sound very angry, the rest of it hardly matters.
I think this sounds plausible from the following point of view: what a Congresscritter really fears is a motivated opposition. Otherwise, business-as-usual, regardless of the district, generally means an 8-point victory for the incumbent. Rightly or wrongly, “angry” comes across as more motivated than “logical”.
KLynn at 40 — Very helpful info. Would you mind if I use some of that for a post at some point?
SilenceIris @ 37
Yes it is disheartening. And that is precisely what the right wing is hoping for.
I know it’s tough,I live in a red state where you can literally find your life threatened for being seen as a liberal.I have no representation in my government on ANY level that is not Republican. The GOP here,along with megachurches has demonized everything they deem as secular or liberal. But I will be damned if they’ll shut me up entirely.If I can act without endangering myself or my family then I will.
Jane – the way we found out about Hinchey’s Owego meeting this week was by calling his local office and asking. We have made it our business this past year to get to know the reps’ local folks – There is a local artist who has volunteered his gallery for a yearly fundraiser for Hinchey – and since this gives the area an excuse to get dressed up and hold a cocktail, people show up. That’s really how we got involved – we were already on his gallery mailing list and got invited..
David @ 30
So David, what are you doing to make things better and improve the situation?
Minnesota DFL events link.
Professor Foland @ 45
Anger has its purposes, but is tricky to modulate it to get the point across without sounding like a haridan.
GrandmaJ @ 24
Me back to MN Firepups re connecting with Klobuchar. I’m in & out today so will be sporadic at the Lake.
Try me via facebook or susank125 at hotmail.
Very excited for taking a “summer tour” with everyone!
Moira @ 43
You. Are. Wonderful. Write to our legislators. I think it’s essential that they understand the depth and breadth of concern extends beyond the U.S. And thanks so much!!
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 33
Mine are Bayh and Loogie, err, I mean LUGAR. Neither works for the American people. Both are traitors to the Constitution.
petedownunder @ 36
Ditto on this question! I do not want to clutter my house up with a fax machine, and a dollar a page at the local copy center is a rip off.
OT
Heritage Foundation windbags on C-SPAN2 arguing that Strategic Hamlet program in VN was a useful counterinsurgency tool. One could write a book about wrong lessons learned from history, and the Heritage Foundation has learned them all.
Nola Sue @ 51
barbara at clotheslineblog dot com.
There is a pictoral diary at DailyKos of everyone’s picture at YearlyKos. Only, it’s pics of their feet. I just saw Christy’s, Emptywheels, Kos, etc…..
Over here.
barbara @ 53
Good idea. Post cards. Say you’re concerned about what goes on in U.S. because it has such an influence around the world (assuming that’s what you think). Feeds the power-appetite of the recipient.
Moira @ 43
Do you know any US citizens up there (I know they are up there)? Or dual nationals? Can you talk to them and get them to contact their US relatives and friends?
Moira @ 43
You can help me. In a discussion about healthcare, some neocon relatives said they know lots of people from Canada and the Canadians do not like their healthcare system.
I suspect this was a lie. So, tell me, do you like the h.c.system?
Woodhall Hollow @ 54
They are idiots in DC. They probably also check FAXES for anthrax…no telling what crazy was on the sending end, afterall.
barbara @ 52
Your welcome! But which ones? Bad Dems? GOP’s? All 535 of them would be daunting to be sure. But I’d like to help with… something.
Solai: I fucking love my healthcare. I wouldn’t want to live in any other country in the whole world. Canada rocks like nobody’s business, and you can tell your friends that anyone who thinks otherwise is on crack. That being true, I’m terribly concerned for my nice neighbors to the south and I’ve got lots of sympathy for your plights.
eCAHNomics @ 55
Do these people EVER talk to vets who were actually IN Vietnam during the war? You know,the guys who were actually in the middle of the shit?
Think Tanks are a scourge on this country,I swear.
So far as I can tell, Satan’s handmaiden only has a “constituent breakfast” set up for visitors to DC. You can bet this Senator would never set up constituent meetings in her own state.
Perhaps she will be around, I’ll look some more.
Please excuse me, when I mention this idea to my friends they instantly tell me it’s a bad idea. They know me–things start and stay perfectly reasonable until someone says something outrageously stupid or provocative.
I won’t let it lie, and I will not be evaded. I am a fearless, tireless fighter, and everyone thinks it will get very ugly fast. Ugly and humiliating for the Senator, I mean, they know I’ll viciously humiliate her in just a few moments, they know I don’t care how I do it and they totally reject it, which on some levels still puzzles me.
If anyone can explain to me how one is supposed to be reasonable in communicating the highest forms of outrage I’d truly like to learn that trick.
Sorry to be whipped, truly. I’ll try some postcards.
Moira @ 62
Start with the Dems who voted for the FISA bill, I think. Does anyone have quick access to the link that listed them?
ccmask at 58 — Oh, bummer — she got my thongs instead of my hottie peeptoes from Saturday. *g*
Christy Hardin Smith @ 45
No problem.
Additionally, you would find the link I posted at 14 a wealth of information. This research group has great stats on citizen impact through letter writing and other mediums. Their info is quite motivating to be a civic actor instead of a re-actor.
Woodhall Hollow @ 54
There are a number of mail to fax type companies out there. You need to sign up for them and pay a (usually) small monthly fee. A year or two ago it was possible (I seem to recall) to pay and send as you needed. I can’t find any of this type any longer. There IS a free service out there but it does not have service in the DC area…can’t recall the name any longer since it never ever serves my needs.
Here’s a few to look at: http://www.MyFax.com/no-hidden-fees
http://www.efax.com
http://www.zipfax.com
paradox at 65 — Do read the link above from the TRex post. It is MOST useful in that regard.
Woodhall Hollow @ 23
I think some of them do. A friend of mine a few years back sent a lot of emails to Brownback, and she eventually got a letter back that basically said stop contacting us, Brownback will never vote for abortion rights.
Wow. Some citizen tried to lobby Brownback on abortion rights. Talk about hopeless tasks. That was one case where Brownback’s advice was accurate.
Praedor Atrebates @ 54
Do you know what is sad? Bayh’s father was a great man(from everything I read about him). How the son became a sellout DLC’er, when the old man was, and is proud, to be a DFH i’ll never know.
Praedor Atrebates @ 68
Thanks so much! I will definitely check them out!
btw, all — this is a useful bit of information not just on the FISA legislation, but on every single issue we are facing at the moment. I hope folks find this sort of thing personally useful. We try and put together practical information where we can for all of us to use — and this is basic citizenship 101 here, but something that I found illuminating. So I hope that some of you feel the same way…
janda @ 70
Maybe she stood out because she was the only one who bothered to write him on that issue!
Woodhall Hollow @ 75
I hope she saved the letter, copies of which would be suitable for circulating far and wide and farther and wider.
Woodhall Hollow @ 73
Here is a “free” one that has a simple web interface. I haven’t tried it lately and do not recall if it is the one that never seems to have coverage in DC but here you go. It MAY cover your local area:
http://www.tpc.int/sendfax.html
TobyWollin @ 48
I found one town hall that Reid will be at on the Nevada Democratic Party site, but nothing for Pelosi.
I guess we’ll have a call-in this afternoon. Whaddaya think?
Moira @ 45
save some room for us just in case.
Jane at 79 — I think that is a lovely idea. :)
Solai @ 61
I’m a Canadian (Dual, actually, living in US), and yes, the Canadian healthcare has some things that need to be changed. Overall, however, I vastly prefer it to the US system.
My impression is that the US system costs MORE while delivering LESS coverage, even for the insured.
Plz explain. Call who, for what purpose?
Thanks so much Mauimom- this is EXACTLY what we need- any thoughts on the “personal visit” strategy? Does it make an impact? Can you pry a response out of the critter? Will the critter feel free to ignore any commitment made? etc.
This could be the beginning of a VERY useful user’s guide to the political system.
Many Thanks to you and to Redd for sharing it!!
I have a couple of suggestions for people who meet with congresspeople.
1. Identify yourself as a member of the netroots. Name a couple of blogs you read, say that you comment or read comments and follow the links. Three or four sentences on this.
2. Describe your participation in the last election. I called into other states, I gave money (give the approximate amount) to candidates identified on my favorite websites, I e-mailed friends in those districts and I only give money through ActBlue. Whatever else. This tells the person you are active, but that you are not active on his or her behalf.
3. Then state the matter you want to discuss. Explain why you are of that view. Then ask a pointed question about their view: Why do you trust Alberto Gonzales, a known liar or Mike McConnell, who was on Dick Cheney’s staff, and is his personal mole, as the judges of whether violating my privacy is necessary for any non-political reason. Listen carefully to the response.
4. We all know the talking points. On FISA, they will talk about the short term solution for example. Make a demand based on the point. Ask for a commitment to vote no on the current version of the bill, and a commitment to the rule of law and active independent oversight.
5. If there are several of you at the meeting, let one person take the lead, but that person has to make sure everybody chimes in, especially on the activism points. If the person refuses the demand, others chime in with points.
Jane at 79 – is there any way for us to be able to (without endangering anything..must.be.careful.now)contact our brethren and sister-en FDLers in our states to try to communicate/organize/meet up/do stuff in a coordinated way, etc.? I can tell that there are several folks here from Upstate New York — what can we do?
I will pick up pre-stamped postcards today. Byron Dorgan will be asked why, with a 99% voting attenance he chose this one(FISA) not to show up.
Curious.
Jane Hamsher @ 79
Might be easier to call DaVinci airport and check with the car rental co’s for sightings heading to Tuscany….
Christy Hardin Smith @ 68
haha. I voted for you anyway. where’s egregious? she had to have the hottest shoes in the place.
One thing I think should be added to all the good advice here is to THANK your Congresscritter when he or she does a good thing.
Yes- I know they’re supposed to do the right thing and its the least we should expect and so on.. but they are only human(I think) and may be gratified that someone is paying attention.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 72
I met Birch Bayh this past summer and he was still great. He’s getting up there in years now and you could tell his attention wondered a bit at times, but other than that he was quite lucid and bright.
I thought the same thing about how his son could have turned out so wrong.
It happens. My son turned out wrong too. Happens to the best (and worst).
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 74
yes, I met Birch Bayh when he was running for President in 1976. Quite a remarkable guy. Perhaps someone should look him up and ask him what he thinks about his son these days.
Don’t know if this idea has been mentioned yet, but I’ve had some success breaking thru the “canned reply” facade on occasion, when I wanted to.
When I got the expected annoying generic initial reply, I fired an e-mail right back in response, acknowledging the thing I’d rec’d and politely but firmly letting them know in no uncertain terms – that wouldn’t do. It didn’t address the issue, and I wanted answers.
Then I repeated short pithy-as-possible rendition of my initial statement. This prompted a rather more prompt, but still less-than-adequate, tho a bit more specific reply.
So that 2nd “reply” prompted an even more stiffly worded answer from me to the critter.
Quite promptly, this time, I got a worried-sounding, specific letter that addressed my concerns. Probably didn’t change his mind, but did feel I’d gotten his attn.
Especially since the Senator did indeed get beaten in the next election, largely for being nonresponsive to his constituents and the issues that concerned them most.
That last, of course, was the clearest message of all. The bozo now resides at home in his state, and has been replaced by one of the “good guys” ;->
Thanks for the tips, mauimom and Christy.
I have long gotten over the delusion that my prose will affect, or cause, any thinking. Now, I just try to make sure that they know I’m pissed. Politely. And, I do write thank-yous for the good times.
Here’s my note to the duplicitous Dianne Feinstein.
Dear Senator Feinstein,
You are a wholesale sell-out to democracy. Your vote to pass President Bush’s ridiculous FISA bill was a repudiation of everything that I thought my country, let alone my party, stood for.
You sold me out. You shamed my party. You disgraced my country.
Have you no regard for your constituents? Have you no respect for the Constitution? Have you no shame?
Sincerely,
Christy Hardin Smith @ 66
Send her a pic of your hottie peeptoes PDQ & ask her sweetly. I wanns see em! Hey, those those thongs are cute too. ;->
Adie @ 95
It took a few of these posts for me to finally realise you were talking about footwear exclusively. The initial few about “thongs” had me wondering just what the hell I missed out on in Chicago.
Adie at 96 — Alas, I did not have time to run around and take pix of my shoes. *G* So you’ll have to imagine black high heeled peep-toes with bright red silk lining and red soles…
Praedor at 97 — HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Oh man, I needed that one this morning…
Thanks everyone! This is a terrific post. Rates a bookmark in this house ;->
Holy hotcakes! Even Gingrich agrees with Edwards. We are losing the phony war on terror.
Edwards. Authentic. Thoughtful. Steadfast.
He will be a great president.
Oh, also — I meant to mention this: if folks come up with good, short, pithy missives for postcards, do share them in the comments. Thanks!
Prairie Sunshine @ 100
Yes he will.
Good Morning, Miss Sunshine.
Christy,
If I might add, my face-to-face meeting not only pointed to facts, I did share my personal stories regarding the issue. How a vote this way or that would affect the US and people on a personal level. So, I personalized the facts.
People need to make sure not only do they voice their opinion but tell their story about how they have or will be affected by a piece of legislation or the lack there of.
Right now I am working on telling my story regarding a health care issue/public health concern and backing it with facts.
I was exposed to rabies and had to begin shots. I won’t go into details but lets just say, I am upset at what I went through and the extremely high cost I am paying for the elimination of a public health risk. Anyone in an “at risk” situation would have decided to not get their needed shots. My first round of shots (there are 6 shots/five visits) billed out at $5500 –. I’ll stop my story there. Nonetheless, I have a very personal story about health care and the threats on public health issues. By the way, public health issues are at the heart of domestic security.
Anyway, I think readers will get the point of telling their story with facts as well.
ReneND, back atcha! Speaking of things Tuscan, we must do lunch at Toscano someday soon.
And Praedor, priceless.
Myself, I have a brother living/working in the Bahamas. It really REALLY pisses me off (and makes me paranoid) to know that any email, any phonecall to or from him can be/may be listened to by the government. Unacceptable.
Brighthouse Cable Teevee boxes in Central Florida are preset with Fox News as the default channel on power up. No matter what channel you were watching when you turned off your set, Fox News will come up when you turn it back on. Call your cable provider and ask them to tell you how to program a different “on” channel.
Upon requesting cable repair service yesterday, a worker arrived wearing a Fox News/Brighthouse Cable Tee Shirt as his uniform.
The right wing has gone to great lengths and has many tricks. If you have it, call your cable provider to remove Fox News from the default position in your system.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 33
I understand your disgust but look at it this way…Bush hasn’t openly given the job of Attorney General to a made member of a recognized crime family a la Putin. Granted the Bush Crime Family has its own panache but it isn’t yet recognized by the big five New York families.
Prairie Sunshine @ 104
Ah well…for a minute there I was interested in pics of those thongs. Now, not so much.
Praedor Atrebates @ 54
I have written to both of them on FISA, through their web sites. No response from either.
Prairie Sunshine @ 101
I’ve been watching Gingrich’s issues & policy change over the years. The Rs like him because they regard him as smart and articulate. Well he is smart, for a R. I predict it will take him only another 2-3 years before he’s as smart as the average D. It’ll be interesting to see if he changes parties then, not that we’d want him.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 97
Woo Hoo! Please get Mr. Redd to take a pic of you in your killer-shoes at home, & use it a top of a post sometime.
Meanwhile, hope you’re getting some physical rest these days, as well as enjoying being back home. i too endured decades of sore-joint woes. you just MUST take care of yourself hon.
please find a way to let ‘em rest and “calm down” – i’m guessing they’re angry after all the racing around at YKos.
Shoot. There I go lecturing again. *g*
hackworth@107:
Free market is as much an oxymoron as compassionate conservatism.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 102
TRex’s letter to Pumpkinhead (link above) is outrageously hilarious and provides an excellent model.
Redd @ 98
Well, they did show up in the picture of the panel with you and Digby. Sole and side both. (The red sole had me confused for just a bit.)
TiredFed @ 80
…and some bacon.
Oh yeah, try to get rid of Harper so the place won’t look too much like the US does now when we get there.
Thanks.
hackworth @ 107
Dang!! If someone like a cable company employee ever showed up at my house like that, I’d tell them to either get a new shirt or stay the hell away until they came more properly dressed.
Postcard text:
Dear Senator Klobuchar:
I am angry and puzzled about your recent FISA vote. Your vote runs counter to everything Minnesotans elected you to do on our behalf. Your vote seems to empower the Bush administration to keep dismantling the U.S. Constitution and civil liberties.
I want to trust you but that’s very difficult right now. Minnesotans and the nation deserve an honest explanation.
Sincerely,
This will comes as a disappointment to those of us counting on the FISA fix expiring within one FU. In reality it’s more like three FUs, i.e., the currently scheduled end of Bush’s term.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 66
Your feet looked exhausted. Gotta run, at work here…
wigwam @ 119
actually it was 41 FUs in the House and 16, I think, in the Senate to the rest of the United States.
Prairie Sunshine @ 101
I wonder how much influence his wife has on him. She is a blog reader. The consultants aren’t gonna tell him to go around saying the WOT is a sham. He needs to listen to her a lot more I say. Heck, I kinda wish she’d debate Hillary, because I think I know who’d win.
Praedor Atrebates @ 105
Myself, I have a brother living/working in the Bahamas. It really REALLY pisses me off (and makes me paranoid) to know that any email, any phonecall to or from him can be/may be listened to by the government. Unacceptable.
You’ll just need to add an extra greeting, and an extra good-bye. Let’s say your brother is named Jim.
“Hi Jim”. “Fuck you NSA”.
“Talk to you later, Jim.” “Fuck you NSA”.
Seriously though, I hope you include this situation with any and all contacts with your elected rep’s. It would be interesting to know whether they acknowledge the truth of the matter, or try to tell you that your concern is misplaced.
wigwam @ 118
I saw that and I must say it makes me suspicious about the “fix” in September and the intent of the Dems to begin with. The bill was unacceptable on its face and it seems the Dems KNEW that (at least unacceptable to human beings) and intended all along to pull a Pelosi “fix” in September…ah, but here’s the rub. They also KNOW that this is pointless as Bush WILL veto it. The Dems can then claim “We tried” (not) while still allowing the spying to continue even after 6 months and even if they fail to renew it.
Jean2k @ 95
Send that to her. Email it. Whatever it takes. She deserves to hear it.
Oooh, an A for Barbara @ 118. Succinct. States position clearly. Invites Sen. to respond without being adversarial.
Props.
Taking off my aging adjunct professor of advertising and p.r. writing hat now….
I love the “Angry Letter” instructions. Missed it the first time around.
ironranger @ 113
From The Devil’s Dictionary by Ambrose Bierce:
cc at 120 — They were exhausted. It seemed like the scheduling gods were conspiring to run me from one corner of the building to the other all day, every day. Isn’t that always the way? *g*
New thread upstairs:
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..e/#respond
barbara @ 118
Great Letter. I would remove seems to. Klobuchar’s vote most assuredly empowers Bushco to dismantle the constitution and civil liberties. The fourth ammendment is the one regarding unreasonable search and seizure.
OK, so say I run into Chuck Schumer in my neighborhood. I bitch about the FISA bill. He counters that he voted against it, what more could he do?
Very specifically, what precise measures should I tell him he and fellow Senate leaders could and should have undertaken to block the bill? Organize a filibuster? Prevent, through some parliamentary procedure, the bill from ever reaching the floor? Threaten Blue Dogs with retaliation? Of what sort?
I don’t just want to bitch that Senate and House leaders could have stopped it; I want to specify how. What are my talking points?
Amy!
WTF were you thinking? You just sold out to BushCo. And that’s gonna look really bad on your liberal resume.
I voted for you. I donated to your campaign. I talked you up to other Minnesotans. But now I’m totally pissed.
You need to get your butt out into the community and face the wrath of the people you just dissed.
Have a good day.
Sincerely,
I just wrote a nastygram to Bill Nelson (D-FL). Let’s all pile on – I liked the previous post.
jayt @ 123
You’ll just need to add an extra greeting, and an extra good-bye. Let’s say your brother is named Jim.
“Hi Jim”. “Fuck you NSA”.
“Talk to you later, Jim.” “Fuck you NSA”.
Seriously though, I hope you include this situation with any and all contacts with your elected rep’s. It would be interesting to know whether they acknowledge the truth of the matter, or try to tell you that your concern is misplaced.
If they DO tell you not to worry … I would insist that they get back to you quoting paragraph and section of the legislation that ensures your protection.
It could be a *nice* teachable moment.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 67
I voted for you anyway — peeptoes in absentia!
Praedor Atrebates @ 124
Ayup. It’s all FU Kabuki aimed right at us!
Solai @ 61
Ha! I can answer that. Canadians are very attached to their health care system and think that any country that doesn’t have single payer health care is only slightly short of barbaric. Course it isn’t perfect – wait times are certainly an issue for some types of surgery – but at least you can get what you need without going bankrupt. There are also shortages of some kinds of practitioners/spec*al*sts (mental health is one problem area), but that is not unique to Canada. If I need to see a doctor, I see a doctor and don’t worry about whether I can pay for it. I think that it is at the level of primary health care that the highest payoffs – if poor people have access to health care, things are more likely to get dealt with before they get worse (and more expensive to treat).
Plus the reliance on employer-provided insurance is ridiculous – this is an added expense that directly affects the profitability of companies and hurts their international competitiveness.
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Here is a random thought….tell the representative or senator that for each nonresponsive answer, you will donate $ to their opponent. It is sort of like the fundraising that goes on at some places where Fred Phelps rants and parades; the longer he is there, the more pledges accumulate for organizations to which he is opposed.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 122
He announced, when the PrezCandis were asked if they’d have a White House blogger, that the job goes to Elizabeth when he wins.
ralphbon @ 132
They could have done *any* of that and more. They did nothing. Absolutely nothing. They chose the worst outcome.
I can’t speak to the ins and outs from memory but if you search for comments from “pow wow” and “selise” from the past few days here you should pick up some discussions of what could have been done.
As for Schumer: he could have made sure enough of his colleagues voted no to stop this. Don’t let him tell you he’s only responsible for his vote. He’s not. He’s supposed to be a leader. They watch each other’s votes: Dreier (R) was belly-aching on the House floor on Thursday (?) when the voting machines were on the fritz that he couldn’t check who was voting how … it’s SOP.
Hope that helps.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 125
Oh, I did, yesterday. I had just come back from a weekend in the Redwoods, read on firedoglake the news of the FISA vote, felt the disgust in myself, felt the disgust in others, sat down in a nauseated funk, and fired that off.
Of course, having subsequently read this and TRex’s excellent post (link), I see that I transgressed emphatically, on at least two of their most superb suggestions. Oh well. At least I achieved my own objective–let ‘em know you’re pissed.
Woodhall Hollow @ 23
That’s what I want to know too.
Kay Baily “Bitch” Hutchinson is my rep and sometimes I think I am the only person who ever writes her. I’m sure they see it coming by now and joke about it saying, “Oh there she goes again, trash it”.
She sometimes replies with some schlock of a form letter explaining why she “feels” the way she does on the issue and why basically she is just going to do what she wants no matter what.
Praedor Atrebates @ 69
I used to use WinFax but haven’t used it for many years. It was quite useful during a time when I was receiving as well as sending a lot of Fax with my PC.
At a cost of just $10, I agree that MyFax.com is definitely worth trying. Please give us an OT Review after you have used it.
hackworth @ 131
Lordy, you homed right in on my tripping point. Had seems in and out and back in again. You’re probably right. Are right.
Just so it’s clear, in case anyone comes back here? #133 was written by my evil twin.
GrandmaJ @ 24
Yep. put me on that list!
Christy Hardin Smith @ 102
Christy, here’s mine:
“Today the death toll in Iraq has reached a total of 3,679 troops. Saturday, you sold the Constitution they died for down the river by voting for the so-called ‘Protect America Act.’
Your actions show a lack of honor and integrity. I am ashamed that you represent my state.”
Folks, if you want a postcard with a little more punch, take an image of U.S. flag-draped coffins from http://www.thememoryhole.org and use it as the front of your card. There are several companies on the web who will print these up for you.
jayt @ 21
Can you tell that I used to write these???
1st-time poster/long-time lurker (well a few days anyway).
Another note of encouragement for those in the red lands: there are many republican citizens of the libertarian sort out there who are actually our allies on constitutional issues like this. So send in your cards/letters/emails. I sent a note to Dan Lungren. I stressed the constitutional aspects. It actually sounded a lot like some of my old libertarian friends from Colorado.
raven @ 13
These for pay things tend not to work, for a number of reasons. I think Salon works because they also provide a free route to the articles, and the WSJ works (or worked ?) because of their clientele. For most of us, though, paying the kind of money they’d need to charge to make it worthwhile isn’t affordable for very many subscriptions. The content either has to be much better than what’s available for free, which wasn’t true of NYT Select, or it’s not going to work.
Until we can find a way for them to charge a few pennies per article and make that pay, subscription services aren’t going to work, and may not even then.
Many of us make phone calls, send snail mail, email, and faxes regularly. But, as Al Gore aptly points out in The Assault on Reason, government seems to be a one-way street. Voter’s input is disregarded because it’s easy to hide. The politicos who appear on the TV have the most reach, and the rest of us be damned.
What I have long wanted to hear is just how many comments and criticisms are being received by congress persons, both before and after votes on critical issues. This always seems to be of no importance.
If reporters were really doing their jobs, they might ask some questions about just what reaction has been after such stupidity as caving to the FISA changes. What we get is the usual beltway “wisdom” that people don’t pay attention, people back the Republicons, Democrats should be scared to stand up to BushRove. What a copout. Let’s demand more information.
There is also a little known process that I call “piggyback lobbying”. I was actively involved in a forum on police reform in Northern Ireland and started a US based website on this issue and had the help of several folks (mostly women BTW) who provided photos, personal accounts etc. of what was happening on the ground there. One of these women turned out to be a D.C. based lobbyist for the chiropractic profession and there was a house and senate resoulution stuck in committee that was pro-reform but languishing. She made a point of stopping by the key senators’ offices on her days off to help push the resolution out of committee and a few months later it was approved and passed. Now to be perfectly clear, they can’t do this in the same visit as they are being paid to do by their respective lobbies, BUT they have the knowledge and access to do this on their own time. Do you know a lobbyist? They may be pushing for this or that industry or constituency but they also have their own personal opinions on all of the issues, are well schooled in the subtleties of influencing elected reps and have a first amendment right to pursue lobbying on their own time as long as it is not in conflict of interest with their day job.
If we could organize something like this such as “lobbyists for privacy” or something along those lines it could be very effective. These people get face to face time with the elected reps and know how to use it.
KLynn @ 40
KLynn, it sounds like you were quite effective with that issue. In the long run this type of “lobbying” is what works and what is needed, the problem is that it costs money to do this or have someone do it on all the relevant issues. I have thought for years that “we” (the common people) needed a “lobby” or our own and have sent money to Common Cause from time to time for that purpose. What if someone (I’ll help!!) organized a project to raise funds, hire staff, find and train people to lobby congress on a broad range of issues that concern the common people or hitched onto an organization already doing this? What if the NetRoots got behind this and spent some serious money doing it? Wouldn’t this be far more effective than all of us lobbying individually and haphazardly and hoping the media will get on our side? Are we all to cynical or selfish to trust or give our money to yet another lobbying organization?
rwcole @ 84
My work on the Hill was many years ago, actually for a very good Congressman. He was concerned about constituents’ views, but, as the posts here have noted, that’s not always the case.
What I was trying to say in my “how the mail system works on the Hill” post was: you’re NOT going to change the mind of many legislators with your reasoning/arguments. You have to accept that your impact is one of NUMBERS: how many letters, cards, calls, e-mails, faxes does the legislator get?
Your main message is: I’m out there [in your district] and I care.
Legislators have legislative aides and all sorts of other staffers to “research” issues. You can make your arguments and present your reasoning, but you’ve GOT to realize that it’s pretty much a fool’s errand. If what you’re hoping for is for the Congress Critter to slap his/her forehead in an “ah ha” moment, ain’t gonna happen.
John Sanguinetti @ 154
ardens @ 150
Ardens–
Welcome to the lake! Glad to have you around.
Now that you have jumped in, stay with us please and share your ideas.
Send them a copy of the Constitution and ask if they have read it lately.
Egregious-
Thanks! Glad to be here.
Short FISA : while Dems may believe there are no terrorists, Reps believe *we* (as in you, too) are the terrorists.
Spiritcatcher @ 160
I do so enjoy terrorizing them!
I’ve been following the comments here at the Lake for a while now, and I’ve been really impressed with the knowledge and passion of bloggers and commenters alike.
Contacting my elected reps has been a source of frustration for me for some time now. I write, call and email often, but since I am dealing with Bobby Jindal and David Vitter, the frustration level is pretty high. NOLA is a blue island in a red state, and sadly many of us have been focused so much on local and personal crises for the last 2 years it is easy to let the big picture slide. I guess it’s mostly a feeling of how often can I bang my head against a brick wall before I become concussed?
grayslady @ 17
I have to email Bob Casey and Joe Pitts — maybe I’ll send postcards from now on — but Arlen Specter, of all people, actually responds: first with an auto-generated acknowledgment and then, later, with an actual (staff-written) email about the subject. His website is actually quite well constructed for voters who wish to communicate their views.
Arlen Specter. The scumbag. Is the best of the lot. Go figure.
A standard short line I put into all political mailings since 2001 has been:
“Integrity matters.” Then I add a line or two re: the issue at hand and either thank the senator/rep for their support or chastise them for not following their constituent’s views.
I wish I’d have saved some of the blistering emails I sent to my reps and senators when they killed habeas corpus….
Steven
I like putting pictures on my postcards. Usually, I am writing about this war crime on Iraq, so I like pictures of the bloody Iraqi babies that the US bombed out of their life.
Then I write something like SHAME ON YOU for doing this!
I think postcards are really good because they educate more than just the staff.