zed

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This time, no talking about the Yankees, okay?

Okay, but they may be the best team of all time.

This Yankee team, or the Yankees over the decades?

well, both.

Shhhhh. Here’s comes the others.

Dang, this place is still hopping. I just ran into the MSNBC guy (young, blonde) and said Hi. He said he was glad to know people are watching. I told him ESPECIALLY KEITH. He invited me to the debate tomorrow night. It’s here in Chicago?

heehee….and their Mommies dress them funny

CHRIS MATTHEWS: So there is a right-wing net roots as well as a left-wing net roots?

Priceless. Really. bwwwwahhhhhhhhh

Jane writes:

Offered without comment.

The only possible comment would be a picture of You, Christy, and Marcy as a contrast.

outta here. fuckin’ sports.

BigMitch @ 7

Shhhhh. Here’s comes the others.

Uh, Mitch, you do realize that the problem is not so much when you talk to yourself but when you answer yourself.

Hay Jane, I hope Kobe is having a great birthday complete with a party hat and cake.

Jane,

You were great on CNN yesterday. Just think – in three years you’ll be interviewing the people from CNN and NBC and so on here, or something like it. That’s how fast it’s going to happen.

dakine01 @ 13

BigMitch @ 7

Shhhhh. Here’s comes the others.

Uh, Mitch, you do realize that the problem is not so much when you talk to yourself but when you answer yourself.

Heh!!!

Does anyone have the link for Alfred’s blog? Please?

Tweety doesn’t even know they exist?

So, the wing nut welfare that props some of ‘em up was, like, wasted? A bad investment?

Oh.

Millineryman @ 14

Hay Jane, I hope Kobe is having a great birthday complete with a party hat and cake.

And Jane, what did he get?

That photo shows a party from the night before those guys entered military service, right? They are anxious to answer the call to duty from the Preznit…probably in the same way that the Bush family answers the call: getting drunk but not anything else.

It’s curious why such behavior is acceptable to Republics.

Steenkin Jankees!

I did hear a substantive discussion (at YK2?) about why the right doesn’t have netroots, which argued that they have churches & a better organized ground operation, as well as other ways to raise $$, so they’ve had no need for it.

When I went to The Cheesecake Factoery in Chicago, they had a Kobe Sandwich on the menu. Any relation Jane?

A friend and I also went to Andy’s Jazz in midtown Chicago for lunch and it was great. Jazz at noon and a Reuben.

Alfred K.

Just who are those two fine studly men?

Ed*ard Teller @ 15

Jane,

You were great on CNN yesterday. Just think – in three years you’ll be interviewing the people from CNN and NBC and so on here, or something like it. That’s how fast it’s going to happen.

Ooooo. When that happens, can we submit Qs?

Looks like they might like to blog in their PJ’s and eat cheetos…actually, I love the wrinkly ones myself…I wish I had some now.

Badwater @ 20

That photo shows a party from the night before those guys entered military service, right? They are anxious to answer the call to duty from the Preznit…probably in the same way that the Bush family answers the call: getting drunk but not anything else.

It’s curious why such behavior is acceptable to Republics.

We had a couple of guys like that at Ft Campbell in 66. . .the DI’d who came from the pukin buzzard (101st) had a field day with em!

Ed*ard Teller @ 15

Jane,

You were great on CNN yesterday. Just think – in three years you’ll be interviewing the people from CNN and NBC and so on here, or something like it. That’s how fast it’s going to happen.

Dregs like that show up here, I’m leaving….we can do a lot better.

It’s kind of sad, but at least they look like they are having fun.

James? WTF?

Before the web and before the Daily Show, American politics had no attention span–the story 20 minutes ago did not have to match the story now.

The Right can’t use the web, because “making shit up” is the opposite of “looking shit up.”

Loo Hoo. @ 31

James? WTF?

If people from CNN, MSNBC, and other media outlets were to be interviewed here, I wouldn’t waste my time.

I don’t watch them or listen to them now and i come here to escape their irrelevance…why would I want to see this site or any other site lending MSM losers any credence?

Look at my response in context to the comment from ET.

What did you think I meant?

Is the guy on the left in the picture related to Rove?

Loo Hoo. @ 31

James? WTF?

Relax, he was referring to the dregs, such as Tweety , F*cker, and Wolfie!!! *g*

Marcy’s got a new post up on a new DOJ email dump!

Ed*ard Teller @ 15

Jane,

You were great on CNN yesterday. Just think – in three years you’ll be interviewing the people from CNN and NBC and so on here, or something like it. That’s how fast it’s going to happen.

O-o-o-o, now that would really be worth seeing! and hearing! Good, coherent, meaningful questions! Better than Baba Wawa in her day!

Bob in HI

Loo Hoo. @ 36

Marcy’s got a new post up on a new DOJ email dump!

Yoo hoo, loo hoo, did you see my answer?

ccmask @ 17

Does anyone have the link for Alfred’s blog? Please?

Here it is link

Okay, James, sorry. I read it as dregs like ET…

Hello?

eerie

Feigold checks in:

After all the wrong-doing by this administration, it was disheartening to see Congress bow to its demands one more time. But there is a silver lining to that dark cloud. The Democratic leadership in both the House and the Senate proposed alternative bills that addressed legitimate concerns about foreign-to-foreign communications while also doing a better job of protecting innocent Americans than what the administration was proposing. In particular, Majority Leader Reid, Intelligence Committee Chairman Rockefeller, and Armed Services Committee Chairman Levin responded to specific concerns a number of us raised about a draft Democratic proposal in the Senate. The resulting Senate Democratic bill was far from perfect, but it was vastly better than the administration’s proposal.

I am also encouraged by Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s call for fixing this flawed legislation as soon as Congress reconvenes in September. We should not delay passing a bill that will end Alberto Gonzales’s six-month, oversight-free surveillance holiday. The president will undoubtedly oppose these efforts and the Republicans in the Senate will no doubt filibuster any efforts to reinstate judicial involvement and tighten the controls around the president’s eavesdropping authorities. In the face of that expected opposition, Democrats will need to stick together this time to fix the mess that we just created. And at least some Republicans will have to be convinced to support the Constitution.

Clearly, this will be an uphill fight. But it’s a fight worth having. Our constitutional rights should not be sacrificed to scare tactics. Congress must stand up to the president. The sooner that Democrats realize that standing tough on national security doesn’t mean giving into the administration, the better off they – and the country – will be.

BigMitch @ 41

Hello?

Everybody bailed to read all the Linkies!!!

dakine01 @ 13

BigMitch @ 7

Shhhhh. Here’s comes the others.

Uh, Mitch, you do realize that the problem is not so much when you talk to yourself but when you answer yourself.

Don’t worry about a thing, Mitch. I figure that talking to yourself *and* answering are just fine, so long as an argument doesn’t break out.

How it feels if Jesus comes back and yer not included?

rwcole @ 43

Feigold checks in:

After all the wrong-doing by this administration, it was disheartening to see Congress bow to its demands one more time. But there is a silver lining to that dark cloud. The Democratic leadership in both the House and the Senate proposed alternative bills that addressed legitimate concerns about foreign-to-foreign communications while also doing a better job of protecting innocent Americans than what the administration was proposing. In particular, Majority Leader Reid, Intelligence Committee Chairman Rockefeller, and Armed Services Committee Chairman Levin responded to specific concerns a number of us raised about a draft Democratic proposal in the Senate. The resulting Senate Democratic bill was far from perfect, but it was vastly better than the administration’s proposal.

I am also encouraged by Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s call for fixing this flawed legislation as soon as Congress reconvenes in September. We should not delay passing a bill that will end Alberto Gonzales’s six-month, oversight-free surveillance holiday. The president will undoubtedly oppose these efforts and the Republicans in the Senate will no doubt filibuster any efforts to reinstate judicial involvement and tighten the controls around the president’s eavesdropping authorities. In the face of that expected opposition, Democrats will need to stick together this time to fix the mess that we just created. And at least some Republicans will have to be convinced to support the Constitution.

Clearly, this will be an uphill fight. But it’s a fight worth having. Our constitutional rights should not be sacrificed to scare tactics. Congress must stand up to the president. The sooner that Democrats realize that standing tough on national security doesn’t mean giving into the administration, the better off they – and the country – will be.

I love Russ!!! 8-)

I really admire how Feingold keeps the glass half full.

jayt @ 45

dakine01 @ 13

Uh, Mitch, you do realize that the problem is not so much when you talk to yourself but when you answer yourself.

Don’t worry about a thing, Mitch. I figure that talking to yourself *and* answering are just fine, so long as an argument doesn’t break out.

LOL!!!

rwcole @ 43

Feigold checks in:

After all the wrong-doing by this administration, it was disheartening to see Congress bow to its demands one more time. But there is a silver lining to that dark cloud. The Democratic leadership in both the House and the Senate proposed alternative bills that addressed legitimate concerns about foreign-to-foreign communications while also doing a better job of protecting innocent Americans than what the administration was proposing. In particular, Majority Leader Reid, Intelligence Committee Chairman Rockefeller, and Armed Services Committee Chairman Levin responded to specific concerns a number of us raised about a draft Democratic proposal in the Senate. The resulting Senate Democratic bill was far from perfect, but it was vastly better than the administration’s proposal.

I am also encouraged by Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s call for fixing this flawed legislation as soon as Congress reconvenes in September. We should not delay passing a bill that will end Alberto Gonzales’s six-month, oversight-free surveillance holiday. The president will undoubtedly oppose these efforts and the Republicans in the Senate will no doubt filibuster any efforts to reinstate judicial involvement and tighten the controls around the president’s eavesdropping authorities. In the face of that expected opposition, Democrats will need to stick together this time to fix the mess that we just created. And at least some Republicans will have to be convinced to support the Constitution.

Clearly, this will be an uphill fight. But it’s a fight worth having. Our constitutional rights should not be sacrificed to scare tactics. Congress must stand up to the president. The sooner that Democrats realize that standing tough on national security doesn’t mean giving into the administration, the better off they – and the country – will be.

So Pelosi wants to change the “flawed” legislation when Congress reconvenes in September. Now what is going to change from now until then? Will Bush have an epiphany and no longer use fear as a political tactic? Will the Democrats all have spinal transplants during the recess? One thing history teaches is that rights taken away are not easily reinstated. It now looks like the reinstitution of habeas corpus is in trouble. What does that tell you?

It’s OK if an argument breaks out- AS LONG AS IT DOESN’T BECOME PHYSICAL.

jayt @ 45

dakine01 @ 13

Uh, Mitch, you do realize that the problem is not so much when you talk to yourself but when you answer yourself.

Don’t worry about a thing, Mitch. I figure that talking to yourself *and* answering are just fine, so long as an argument doesn’t break out.

Pooh: Where are you going, Piglet?
Piglet: That’s what I’m asking myself. Where…….where?!!
Pooh: And what do you think you will answer yourself?

jayt- it’s when you answer yourself in a different voice that you’re in trouble!!

Loo Hoo. @ 8

Dang, this place is still hopping. I just ran into the MSNBC guy (young, blonde) and said Hi. He said he was glad to know people are watching. I told him ESPECIALLY KEITH. He invited me to the debate tomorrow night. It’s here in Chicago?

I was thinking if I had gone to Chicago, I’d hang around to watch that fer sure.

Ah! I’m blind! Some people should not breed.

Felix Moronia @ 53

jayt- it’s when you answer yourself in a different voice that you’re in trouble!!

umm, no comment.

raven @ 28

Badwater @ 20

That photo shows a party from the night before those guys entered military service, right? They are anxious to answer the call to duty from the Preznit…probably in the same way that the Bush family answers the call: getting drunk but not anything else.

It’s curious why such behavior is acceptable to Republics.

We had a couple of guys like that at Ft Campbell in 66. . .the DI’d who came from the pukin buzzard (101st) had a field day with em!

I was stationed at Ft. Campbell, although NOT in ‘66.

Bluetoe @ 50

rwcole @ 43

Feigold checks in:

After all the wrong-doing by this administration, it was disheartening to see Congress bow to its demands one more time. But there is a silver lining to that dark cloud. The Democratic leadership in both the House and the Senate proposed alternative bills that addressed legitimate concerns about foreign-to-foreign communications while also doing a better job of protecting innocent Americans than what the administration was proposing. In particular, Majority Leader Reid, Intelligence Committee Chairman Rockefeller, and Armed Services Committee Chairman Levin responded to specific concerns a number of us raised about a draft Democratic proposal in the Senate. The resulting Senate Democratic bill was far from perfect, but it was vastly better than the administration’s proposal.

I am also encouraged by Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s call for fixing this flawed legislation as soon as Congress reconvenes in September. We should not delay passing a bill that will end Alberto Gonzales’s six-month, oversight-free surveillance holiday. The president will undoubtedly oppose these efforts and the Republicans in the Senate will no doubt filibuster any efforts to reinstate judicial involvement and tighten the controls around the president’s eavesdropping authorities. In the face of that expected opposition, Democrats will need to stick together this time to fix the mess that we just created. And at least some Republicans will have to be convinced to support the Constitution.

Clearly, this will be an uphill fight. But it’s a fight worth having. Our constitutional rights should not be sacrificed to scare tactics. Congress must stand up to the president. The sooner that Democrats realize that standing tough on national security doesn’t mean giving into the administration, the better off they – and the country – will be.

So Pelosi wants to change the “flawed” legislation when Congress reconvenes in September. Now what is going to change from now until then? Will Bush have an epiphany and no longer use fear as a political tactic? Will the Democrats all have spinal transplants during the recess? One thing history teaches is that rights taken away are not easily reinstated. It now looks like the reinstitution of habeas corpus is in trouble. What does that tell you?

Why does this sound like it was all about their widdle vacation and having to work,like normal people? Otherwise,why give in in the first place?

rwcole @ 43

Feigold checks in:

After all the wrong-doing by this administration, it was disheartening to see Congress bow to its demands one more time. But there is a silver lining to that dark cloud. The Democratic leadership in both the House and the Senate proposed alternative bills that addressed legitimate concerns about foreign-to-foreign communications while also doing a better job of protecting innocent Americans than what the administration was proposing. In particular, Majority Leader Reid, Intelligence Committee Chairman Rockefeller, and Armed Services Committee Chairman Levin responded to specific concerns a number of us raised about a draft Democratic proposal in the Senate. The resulting Senate Democratic bill was far from perfect, but it was vastly better than the administration’s proposal.

I am also encouraged by Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s call for fixing this flawed legislation as soon as Congress reconvenes in September. We should not delay passing a bill that will end Alberto Gonzales’s six-month, oversight-free surveillance holiday. The president will undoubtedly oppose these efforts and the Republicans in the Senate will no doubt filibuster any efforts to reinstate judicial involvement and tighten the controls around the president’s eavesdropping authorities. In the face of that expected opposition, Democrats will need to stick together this time to fix the mess that we just created. And at least some Republicans will have to be convinced to support the Constitution.

Clearly, this will be an uphill fight. But it’s a fight worth having. Our constitutional rights should not be sacrificed to scare tactics. Congress must stand up to the president. The sooner that Democrats realize that standing tough on national security doesn’t mean giving into the administration, the better off they – and the country – will be.

This is putting lipstick on the pig.

This is letting the bull into the china shop and then saying maybe we will try to get it out.

Silver lining? What kind of drugs is he on. This is so incredibly lame.

CTuttle @ 49

jayt @ 45

Don’t worry about a thing, Mitch. I figure that talking to yourself *and* answering are just fine, so long as an argument doesn’t break out.

LOL!!!

This is actually an old Yiddish joke. Man goes to psychiatrist to complain that he has been talking to himself. The Dr. says, not to worry. This is common.

The man says: “You don’t understand. The problem is that I am a nudnick.”

Notes for Yiddishly challenged:
Nudnick = one who is annoying.

Eureka Springs @ 48

I really admire how Feingold keeps the glass half full.

Sure would be happier if they’d filibustered this thing. Russ is sugar-coating what Pelosi and Reid let happen as a way of deflecting the anger that’s being directed at them.

You send out the kid to mediate who has the ear of the group that’s the most pissed off.

rwcole @ 43

Feingold checks in:

Feingold should be ashamed of himself. I am.

heads up-
the lehrer newshour on pbs is doing a segment on ykos…….coming up……

What’s interesting about the photo is that there is likely a similar photo of Karl Rove taken during the Nixon administration. People probably laughed and poked fun of the porky conservative nerd. And now look where he is. As close to Bush as Goebbels was to Hitler. Yeah these guys look like real jerks but unless the Republican Party along with their neo-con philosophy is completely discredited and assigned to the dust bin of history these two true believers will probably hold positions of real power in the future.

Meanwhile- back in Ol Baghdad- the president’s plan is pickin up steam:

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BAGHDAD — Iraq’s political crisis worsened Monday as five more ministers announced a boycott of Cabinet meetings _ leaving the embattled prime minister’s unity government with no members affiliated with Sunni political factions.

Meanwhile, a suicide bomber killed at least 28 people in a northern city, including 19 children, some playing hopscotch and marbles in front of their homes. And the American military reported five new U.S. deaths: Four soldiers were killed in a combat explosion in restive Diyala province north of the capital Monday, and a soldier was killed and two were wounded during fighting in eastern Baghdad on Sunday.

The new cracks in Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki’s government appeared even as U.S. military officials sounded cautious notes of progress on security, citing strides against insurgents linked to al-Qaida in Iraq but also new threats from Iranian-backed Shiite militias.

That flawed legislation we passed yesterday needs to be changed pronto!

How stupid does Speaker Pelosi think we are?

If it is flawed YOU DON’T PASS IT!

-GSD

The amnesty for past violations of FISA law bothers the hell out of me. Once it is granted, can it be repealed without violating the ex post facto clause? I don’t know.

james @ 61

Eureka Springs @ 48

I really admire how Feingold keeps the glass half full.

Sure would be happier if they’d filibustered this thing. Russ is sugar-coating what Pelosi and Reid let happen as a way of deflecting the anger that’s being directed at them.

You send out the kid to mediate who has the ear of the group that’s the most pissed off.

Agreed but you have to admit the guy is working with very few others who will support him.

james @ 61

Eureka Springs @ 48

I really admire how Feingold keeps the glass half full.

Sure would be happier if they’d filibustered this thing. Russ is sugar-coating what Pelosi and Reid let happen as a way of deflecting the anger that’s being directed at them.

You send out the kid to mediate who has the ear of the group that’s the most pissed off.

It’s not gonna work with me. Does anyone in DC do anything except lie? There will be no amendments. There will be no fight. There will be no habeas corpus.

This congress will not get anyone out of Iraq.

I need to go read the big book for a little while and then head off for a meeting.

The more I read about what the Dems are gonna do when they get back the more I yearn for the days in 87 when me and jose cuervo were running wild and free on the upper west side.

GSD @ 66

That flawed legislation we passed yesterday needs to be changed pronto!

How stupid does Speaker Pelosi think we are?

If it is flawed YOU DON’T PASS IT!

-GSD

If it didn’t need to be changed we wouldn’t have had to pass it!

BigMitch @ 67

The amnesty for past violations of FISA law bothers the hell out of me. Once it is granted, can it be repealed without violating the ex post facto clause? I don’t know.

That was what this was all about. The fact that Democrats were investigating shit and Bush and his band of perverted misfits didn’t want to suffer if anything was exposed.

The ‘chatter about attacks’ and new laws to capture terrorists is the cover.

-GSD

GSD @ 72

BigMitch @ 67

The amnesty for past violations of FISA law bothers the hell out of me. Once it is granted, can it be repealed without violating the ex post facto clause? I don’t know.

That was what this was all about. The fact that Democrats were investigating shit and Bush and his band of perverted misfits didn’t want to suffer if anything was exposed.

The ‘chatter about attacks’ and new laws to capture terrorists is the cover.

-GSD

DING!!!

More Russ:

It should go without saying, but it’s important to repeat: every member of Congress supports wiretapping terrorists. And no one thinks that the government should have to get a court order to listen to communications between suspected terrorists in foreign countries, even if those communications happen to pass through the U.S. The FISA bill Congress passed late last week was the latest example of the administration exploiting a legitimate problem to make an outrageous power grab – and unfortunately, it was also just the latest example of Congress giving in to the president’s fear-mongering. The very last thing we should be doing is granting this administration — and this Attorney General in particular — more authority to conduct wiretaps without adequate judicial supervision. It is the abuse of power by this administration that is one of the main reasons this president and attorney general should be

Perhaps we should send Chris Matthews choice samples of the rwnuttia.

rwcole @ 74

More Russ:

It should go without saying, but it’s important to repeat: every member of Congress supports wiretapping terrorists. And no one thinks that the government should have to get a court order to listen to communications between suspected terrorists in foreign countries, even if those communications happen to pass through the U.S. The FISA bill Congress passed late last week was the latest example of the administration exploiting a legitimate problem to make an outrageous power grab – and unfortunately, it was also just the latest example of Congress giving in to the president’s fear-mongering. The very last thing we should be doing is granting this administration — and this Attorney General in particular — more authority to conduct wiretaps without adequate judicial supervision. It is the abuse of power by this administration that is one of the main reasons this president and attorney general should be

A voice of one amongst a gaggle of mutes.

fdl reader @ 69

james @ 61

Sure would be happier if they’d filibustered this thing. Russ is sugar-coating what Pelosi and Reid let happen as a way of deflecting the anger that’s being directed at them.

You send out the kid to mediate who has the ear of the group that’s the most pissed off.

It’s not gonna work with me. Does anyone in DC do anything except lie? There will be no amendments. There will be no fight. There will be no habeas corpus.

This congress will not get anyone out of Iraq.

The Bush/Rove/Cheney/Pentagon campaign has already worked on the surge. The numbers of those who think the surge is working is surging.

We know that General Petraeus will pat himself on the back in September and will say what a stunning success he has brought about.

That will be enough to send the Red Dogs scurrying into Bush’s bunker.

America is lost.

-GSD

GSD @ 72

BigMitch @ 67

The amnesty for past violations of FISA law bothers the hell out of me. Once it is granted, can it be repealed without violating the ex post facto clause? I don’t know.

That was what this was all about. The fact that Democrats were investigating shit and Bush and his band of perverted misfits didn’t want to suffer if anything was exposed.

The ‘chatter about attacks’ and new laws to capture terrorists is the cover.

-GSD

Shorter GSD: “We’re fucked.”

thanks for the heads up on Democracy Now

Scarecrow @ 75

Perhaps we should send Chris Matthews choice samples of the rwnuttia.

How about a copy of his own show today. I had to turn it off in less than three minutes.

rwcole @ 43

Feigold checks in:

After all the wrong-doing by this administration, it was disheartening to see Congress bow to its demands one more time. But there is a silver lining to that dark cloud. The Democratic leadership in both the House and the Senate proposed alternative bills that addressed legitimate concerns about foreign-to-foreign communications while also doing a better job of protecting innocent Americans than what the administration was proposing. In particular, Majority Leader Reid, Intelligence Committee Chairman Rockefeller, and Armed Services Committee Chairman Levin responded to specific concerns a number of us raised about a draft Democratic proposal in the Senate. The resulting Senate Democratic bill was far from perfect, but it was vastly better than the administration’s proposal.

I am also encouraged by Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s call for fixing this flawed legislation as soon as Congress reconvenes in September. We should not delay passing a bill that will end Alberto Gonzales’s six-month, oversight-free surveillance holiday. The president will undoubtedly oppose these efforts and the Republicans in the Senate will no doubt filibuster any efforts to reinstate judicial involvement and tighten the controls around the president’s eavesdropping authorities. In the face of that expected opposition, Democrats will need to stick together this time to fix the mess that we just created. And at least some Republicans will have to be convinced to support the Constitution.

Clearly, this will be an uphill fight. But it’s a fight worth having. Our constitutional rights should not be sacrificed to scare tactics. Congress must stand up to the president. The sooner that Democrats realize that standing tough on national security doesn’t mean giving into the administration, the better off they – and the country – will be.

Score more points for Feingold! To some extent, he’s putting lipstick on a pig, but at least he’s focusing on how to fix one of the worst bills in a decade. Last October’s MCA and this FISA bill are the two worst bills since 2002, anyway, ranking right up there with the AUMF, IMHO.

Bob in HI

rwcole @ 74

That’s just unbelievable. How can he imagine that this is not going to make people MORE angry? He’s saying all this is obvious AND they let it happen anyway.

And “every member of Congress supports wiretapping terrorists” ~ he’s drinking the koolaid!

We aren’t going to find any non-existent terrorists by wiretapping terrorists who don’t use electronic networks!

EVERYTHING we have been told about terrorists is coming from LIARS!

Their is to a rite wing blogufere!!! You can’t not ignor us!!!

Scarecrow @ 75

Perhaps we should send Chris Matthews choice samples of the rwnuttia.

Matthew’s is a rwnuttia sample.

Exactly,

This was the almost the exact replay of the AUMF vote.

Instead the “mushroom cloud” story was told in hushed tones by Adm. McConnell to the wavering Democrats.

I mean what red-blooded American would want a mushroom cloud to go off and then have George W. Bush go on TV and say–”If only they listened to me and let me have the powers I had asked for this wouldn’t have happened.”

It is the exact same thing over again.

Fear is driving this nation into pit of darkness that we may not ever climb out from.

-GSD

Fear is driving this nation into pit of darkness that we may not ever climb out from.

Fear is driving those we elected into the pit. 70% of the country is being dragged along kicking and screaming.

Marcy:

I think HJC is honing in on a cover-up, including evidence of the way the White House was centrally involved in that cover-up.

Fingers and toes crossed, as Suzanne says!

CNN: Caroline Giuliani (Rudy’s daughter) supports Barack Obama.

tbsa @ 84

Scarecrow @ 75

Perhaps we should send Chris Matthews choice samples of the rwnuttia.

Matthew’s is a rwnuttia sample.

well, there’s no doubt he’s nuttia

Frank33 @ 88

CNN: Caroline Giuliani (Rudy’s daughter) supports Barack Obama.

Yeah, she’s 17 and someone found it on facebook.

Seems pretty lame. What 17 year old doesn’t think her dad is a creep. Especially when he is one.

-GSD

I wish I knew who I was listening to on NPR today talking about the FISA capitulation. Can anyone help me, here?

Anyway, someone, who I assumed was a member of the House, said that the telephone companies were lobbying for retro-active immunity, too.

There’s so much that is bizarre about this. For one thing, the pitch to Congress was that this suddenly became necessary, what with chatter etc. How much time did the telephone industry have to get their lobbying position together and to implement that strategy, before Congress got the word from the White House?

I don’t fault the Dems for being scared of an attack, and being blamed for it. They ought to be scared of an atack, period. But the solution was to pass the bill they worked out with McConnell, DCI, and then let Bush veto it if he wanted to. I think he was bluffing.

Loo Hoo. @ 87

Marcy:

I think HJC is honing in on a cover-up, including evidence of the way the White House was centrally involved in that cover-up.

Fingers and toes crossed, as Suzanne says!

God Bless Marcy! Someone we can trust! But will this congress do anything about it? I just can’t believe they will.

Eureka Springs @ 80

Scarecrow @ 75

Perhaps we should send Chris Matthews choice samples of the rwnuttia.

How about a copy of his own show today. I had to turn it off in less than three minutes.

Good idea; transcipts of his shows when he has on Melanie Morgan, or Ann Coulter surely qualify.

No wonder the right doesn’t believe in evolution after seeing that picture I have to admit that I see no proof of evolution.
Its like that film Altered States where after being in a sensory depravation chamber the scientist devolves into a violent primitive.
After living in the fact free O’Reily nospin zone people also devolve get violent and then they post their favorite violent fantasies on Bill’s web site.
Could the Decline of a Civilization the Thanos instinict be tied to a subconsious choice toward ignorance. Could it be a rejection of the Augustineian notion that God is knowledge.
If God is knowledge then worshiping the Chimp is akin to going to a Black Sabbath.
What unconcious force drives the 30%ers like Lemmings to run away from knowledge towards a cliff/Iraq war/civilization collapse?
Why do these jerks keep insisting on trying to take the rest of us off the cliff with them?

GSD @ 90

Frank33 @ 88

CNN: Caroline Giuliani (Rudy’s daughter) supports Barack Obama.

Yeah, she’s 17 and someone found it on facebook.

Seems pretty lame. What 17 year old doesn’t think her dad is a creep. Especially when he is one.

-GSD

I never thought my Dad was a creep, not ever.

Elliott @ 79

thanks for the heads up on Democracy Now

What’s on Democracy Now?

@ 96

Elliott @ 79

thanks for the heads up on Democracy Now

What’s on Democracy Now?

oh it was

Attorneys and writers Glenn Greenwald and Marjorie Cohn join Democracy Now! for the hour to discuss warrantless spying, torture, the Iraq war and the future of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

I said that when it was over, sorry.

looseheadprop @ 18

Tweety doesn’t even know they exist?

So, the wing nut welfare that props some of ‘em up was, like, wasted? A bad investment?

Oh.

The right-wing netroots aren’t there to organize or discuss, so much as they are there to reinforce the message already being spewed by the A-list media propagandists such as Limbaugh.

They do serve as a means of road-testing certain themes, but the e-mails passed among the righty groups — the ones that pass on the stories, racist urban legends, and other things even the guys who run LGF don’t dare post for fear of giving the game away — are much more important in terms of transmitting (dis)information.

For instance: I have a friend whose biological father runs a gun shop and hangs out with militia members. He occasionally tries to send some of it to my friend; my friend zaps most of it almost immediately, but does save some of the choicer stuff. (”Bush’s ‘Resignation’ Speech” has to be read to be believed. Un. Real.)

Elliott, I said that Giuliani IS a creep.

I take it your dad wasn’t a creep.

-GSD

Just some quick math, you take 9 trillion in debt and divide by 300 million Americans and you get $30,000 in debt for each American.

Most of that debt comes from Bush 43 and Reagan.

Elliott @ 97

@ 96

What’s on Democracy Now?

oh it was

Attorneys and writers Glenn Greenwald and Marjorie Cohn join Democracy Now! for the hour to discuss warrantless spying, torture, the Iraq war and the future of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

I said that when it was over, sorry.

No problem. I can catch it online. It also happens to be late at night on TVTV

Elliot @ 95

I never thought my Dad was a creep, not ever.

Ditto.

Goddamned keyboard….

It also happens to be on late at night on a cable station locally; it’s also on in the morning.

Frank33 @ 88

CNN: Caroline Giuliani (Rudy’s daughter) supports Barack Obama.

Hahahaha!

As Gilly kept telling us, the funniest thing about the Rudy candidacy was that NYC was where he was the LEAST popular candidate for Prez. (Remember all the crap Gore took from the press because Tennesseans wouldn’t vote for him in 2000? Funny how they never mention that Giuliani would lose NYC and NYS in friggin’ landslides.)

fdl reader @ 92

Loo Hoo. @ 87

Marcy:

I think HJC is honing in on a cover-up, including evidence of the way the White House was centrally involved in that cover-up.

Fingers and toes crossed, as Suzanne says!

God Bless Marcy! Someone we can trust! But will this congress do anything about it? I just can’t believe they will.

This Democratic Congress could be handed an open and shut case on treason and they would not pursue it. They would say that mistakes were made and in the interest of national unity in a time of war it’s time to move on.

GSD @ 99

Elliott, I said that Giuliani IS a creep.

I take it your dad wasn’t a creep.

-GSD

No, no he wasn’t.
I thought you said all 17 year olds thought their dads were creeps.

Felix Moronia @ 53

jayt- it’s when you answer yourself in a different voice that you’re in trouble!!

I’m proud of all my personalities! :-)

Bob in HI

rwcole @ 43

Feigold checks in:

After all the wrong-doing by this administration, it was disheartening to see Congress bow to its demands one more time. But there is a silver lining to that dark cloud. The Democratic leadership in both the House and the Senate proposed alternative bills that addressed legitimate concerns about foreign-to-foreign communications while also doing a better job of protecting innocent Americans than what the administration was proposing. In particular, Majority Leader Reid, Intelligence Committee Chairman Rockefeller, and Armed Services Committee Chairman Levin responded to specific concerns a number of us raised about a draft Democratic proposal in the Senate. The resulting Senate Democratic bill was far from perfect, but it was vastly better than the administration’s proposal.

I am also encouraged by Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s call for fixing this flawed legislation as soon as Congress reconvenes in September. …

Clearly, this will be an uphill fight…..

As much as I like Sen. Feingold, I’m significantly less than thrilled to hear “yes, it’ll be an uphill fight, but let’s try to fix it in September” after Congressional Democrats have just let the country slide yet another hundred feet down the slope.

Going into last year’s election, all I could think was: What’s it going to be like if the Democrats do get control of Congress using a strategy that amounts to “Let’s sit on our hands, not take risks by obstructing the Republicans, and simply wait for them to screw up so badly that the country turns to us out of sheer desperation rather than because we’ve earned it”?

Like this, apparently. Really.Not.Pleased.

These young Republicans remind me of the babies that get dressed up to look like old men. The young conservatives are so intent on looking the part and dressing like Robert Novak to prove they are for real.

Yeah, the tie in the mouth thing is a little gay, but there’s nothing wrong with that… unless you’re a Republican, of course.

GSD @ 90

Frank33 @ 88

CNN: Caroline Giuliani (Rudy’s daughter) supports Barack Obama.

Yeah, she’s 17 and someone found it on facebook.

Seems pretty lame. What 17 year old doesn’t think her dad is a creep. Especially when he is one.

-GSD

I am really sorry if folks think that I am personally judging their fathers with a throw away line.

-GSD

@ 57

raven @ 28

We had a couple of guys like that at Ft Campbell in 66. . .the DI’d who came from the pukin buzzard (101st) had a field day with em!

I was stationed at Ft. Campbell, although NOT in ‘66.

The last train to Clarksville!

dmac @ 63

heads up-
the lehrer newshour on pbs is doing a segment on ykos…….coming up……

Preceeded by a piece on the FISA gutting, with
a Republican apparatchik named Bryan Cunningham lying
through his teeth about the changes.

Why do the dems pass legislation then turn around and say it’s flawed and needs to be fixed? Do they have any idea how clueless they appear?
What the f**k is really going on?

Mukei @ 108

rwcole @ 43

Feigold checks in:

After all the wrong-doing by this administration, it was disheartening to see Congress bow to its demands one more time. But there is a silver lining to that dark cloud. The Democratic leadership in both the House and the Senate proposed alternative bills that addressed legitimate concerns about foreign-to-foreign communications while also doing a better job of protecting innocent Americans than what the administration was proposing. In particular, Majority Leader Reid, Intelligence Committee Chairman Rockefeller, and Armed Services Committee Chairman Levin responded to specific concerns a number of us raised about a draft Democratic proposal in the Senate. The resulting Senate Democratic bill was far from perfect, but it was vastly better than the administration’s proposal.

I am also encouraged by Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s call for fixing this flawed legislation as soon as Congress reconvenes in September. …

Clearly, this will be an uphill fight…..

As much as I like Sen. Feingold, I’m significantly less than thrilled to hear “yes, it’ll be an uphill fight, but let’s try to fix it in September” after Congressional Democrats have just let the country slide yet another hundred feet down the slope.

Going into last year’s election, all I could think was: What’s it going to be like if the Democrats do get control of Congress using a strategy that amounts to “Let’s sit on our hands, not take risks by obstructing the Republicans, and simply wait for them to screw up so badly that the country turns to us out of sheer desperation rather than because we’ve earned it”?

Like this, apparently. Really.Not.Pleased.

Looking at history they are taking a page out of the opponents in the Reichstag who took a wait and see attitude toward the new Chancellor. The people eventually fell in love with their Fuhrer and the opponents had lost any opportunity they might have had. Many Americans are fascists at heart just waiting for that moment in history when they can give it full expression. I imagine Karl Rove is working on just that moment.

Loo Hoo. @ 24

Alfred K.

Thanks!

GSD @ 110

GSD @ 90

Yeah, she’s 17 and someone found it on facebook.

Seems pretty lame. What 17 year old doesn’t think her dad is a creep. Especially when he is one.

-GSD

well, Rudy surely is a creep, no doubt about it.

Biggus Diggus @ 109

These young Republicans remind me of the babies that get dressed up to look like old men. The young conservatives are so intent on looking the part and dressing like Robert Novak to prove they are for real.

Yeah, the tie in the mouth thing is a little gay, but there’s nothing wrong with that… unless you’re a Republican, of course.

The one on the left looks like Karl Roves sister

BigMitch @ 67

The amnesty for past violations of FISA law bothers the hell out of me. Once it is granted, can it be repealed without violating the ex post facto clause? I don’t know.

That’s the thing about it that angered me the most. Talk about estupido! Do you have a cite from the bill itself? I downloaded it this morning but haven’t had time to look up the relevant passage(s).

Fortunately Bushco has committed so many high crimes and misdemeanors that there will be other nails to hang them on, and for impeachment purposes, an article of impeachment does not have to be based on a crime.

Bob in HI

Russ’s being pleased about Pelosi’s Kabuki shows only that he’s a fan of Kabuki.

Pelosi’s been studying with Spector apparently.

@ 57

raven @ 28

We had a couple of guys like that at Ft Campbell in 66. . .the DI’d who came from the pukin buzzard (101st) had a field day with em!

I was stationed at Ft. Campbell, although NOT in ‘66.

My daughter is at Fort Campbell now.

Bob Schacht @ 118

BigMitch @ 67

The amnesty for past violations of FISA law bothers the hell out of me. Once it is granted, can it be repealed without violating the ex post facto clause? I don’t know.

That’s the thing about it that angered me the most. Talk about estupido! Do you have a cite from the bill itself? I downloaded it this morning but haven’t had time to look up the relevant passage(s).

Fortunately Bushco has committed so many high crimes and misdemeanors that there will be other nails to hang them on, and for impeachment purposes, an article of impeachment does not have to be based on a crime.

Bob in HI

Do I have a quote/cite? No, I am going on what I heard on the radio. I also wonder if the amnesty is a bill of attainder.

BBC NEWS
Cabinet setback as Iraqi MPs quit
Five Iraqi MPs have announced a boycott of cabinet meetings, deepening the political crisis and leaving the unity government without any Sunni members.

The ministers, who are loyal to former Prime Minister Ayad Allawi, blamed what they said was the Shia-led government’s failure to end sectarian favouritism.

The Iraqiya List ministers included Sunni and Shia Muslims and a Christian.

Iraq’s largest Sunni-Arab bloc, the Accordance Front, withdrew six ministers from the cabinet last week.

So far this year, 17 government ministers – nearly half of the cabinet – have either suspended their participation or quit.

My Chicago pics are now up on Facebook, if anyone is interested….Here.

Elliott @ 89

tbsa @ 84

Matthew’s is a rwnuttia sample.

well, there’s no doubt he’s nuttia

He’s nuttia than who?

Bob in HI
Inquiring minds want to know.

Northwest Gal @ 120

@ 57

I was stationed at Ft. Campbell, although NOT in ‘66.

My daughter is at Fort Campbell now.

Bless her. I got this from an old SF buddy today

A veteran – whether active duty, retired, or national guard or reserve – is someone who, at one point in his/her life, wrote a blank check made payable to “The United States of America”, for an amount of “up to and including my life.”

But this congress will not be bringing articles of impeachment against anyone. Not even for an ‘open & shut’ case which they will not get in the face of bogus executive privilege claims which they will not be able to overturn.

They will not even censure anyone ~ which is a pointless exercise: oh they were bad so we’ll say they were bad and everyone will know they were bad and no will will do the bad things they did. Isn’t that also a Feingold calculation?

Impeachment. Not. Gonna. Happen.

ccmask @ 123

My Chicago pics are now up on Facebook, if anyone is interested….Here.

Won’t let me in.

The Twits in the photo are some of the leadership of the College Repubs from a year or two ago. Jesus General has a link to Operation Yellow Elephant that tries to get these Gung Ho, blood thirsty twits to enlist in the Army to really show support for Bush’s war. Few it seems do, prefering to leave that job to people who they consider are expendable.

Too bad the D leaders meet only 1/month.

Bush and Boehner meet once a week to ‘plot strategy.’ As the Bush administration’s “point man in Congress,” House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH), has a “meeting every week with the president to plot strategy.”

This tweety transcript is nearly two months old.

How is this news?

GSD @ 72

BigMitch @ 67

The amnesty for past violations of FISA law bothers the hell out of me. Once it is granted, can it be repealed without violating the ex post facto clause? I don’t know.

That was what this was all about. The fact that Democrats were investigating shit and Bush and his band of perverted misfits didn’t want to suffer if anything was exposed.

The ‘chatter about attacks’ and new laws to capture terrorists is the cover.

-GSD

The good news is, they must be figuring they are not going to have someone in place covering for them 18 months from now.

eCAHNomics @ 129

Too bad the D leaders meet only 1/month.

Bush and Boehner meet once a week to ‘plot strategy.’ As the Bush administration’s “point man in Congress,” House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH), has a “meeting every week with the president to plot strategy.”

Ding! Ding! Ding!

Northwest Gal @ 120

@ 57

I was stationed at Ft. Campbell, although NOT in ‘66.

My daughter is at Fort Campbell now.

I was assigned to the hospital there, radiology.

Do I have a quote/cite? No, I am going on what I heard on the radio. I also wonder if the amnesty is a bill of attainder.

What’s a bill of attainder?

fdl reader @ 126

Impeachment. Not. Gonna. Happen.

Not as long as Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid keep wearing kneepads.

raven @ 127

ccmask @ 123

My Chicago pics are now up on Facebook, if anyone is interested….Here.

Won’t let me in.

You gotta be on Facebook to see ‘em.

Great pics though! Chicago is prettier than I thought.

New Thread Up

raven @ 127

ccmask @ 123

My Chicago pics are now up on Facebook, if anyone is interested….Here.

Won’t let me in.

Raven, ya need to log into FB! Nice pix, CC!!! Mahalo nui loa!!!

Thanks! It was a very pretty place.

BigMitch @ 91

I wish I knew who I was listening to on NPR today talking about the FISA capitulation. Can anyone help me, here?

Anyway, someone, who I assumed was a member of the House, said that the telephone companies were lobbying for retro-active immunity, too.

There’s so much that is bizarre about this. For one thing, the pitch to Congress was that this suddenly became necessary, what with chatter etc. How much time did the telephone industry have to get their lobbying position together and to implement that strategy, before Congress got the word from the White House?

I don’t fault the Dems for being scared of an attack, and being blamed for it. They ought to be scared of an atack, period. But the solution was to pass the bill they worked out with McConnell, DCI, and then let Bush veto it if he wanted to. I think he was bluffing.

I’m trying to remem where I heard that the FISA bill wasn’t even on the schedule until the last week or so b4 recess.

New Thread upstairs

fdl reader @ 132

eCAHNomics @ 129

Too bad the D leaders meet only 1/month.

Ding! Ding! Ding!

Are you freaking KIDDING ME??(sorry for the raised voice)

They only meet once a month? Do any of these people take their jobs seriously?

Damnit. This is why the GOP has run us over,put it in reverse and run over us again. They have more meetings and conventions than you can shake a stick at. Grover Norquist has had weekly meetings for years,there’s breakfasts with think tankers and members of the House and Senate,all that kind of stuff,all the time.

What the hell is wrong with these people?

I just wanted to note that Andrew and Caroline Giuliani do not support their father’s campaign. The 21 year old son does not seem to be a hypocrite, as he pursues a Golf career. Rudy is of course a warmonger for Iraq.

Andrew Giuliani said he would not participate in his father’s campaign, saying his devotion to becoming a professional golfer within three years allows no time for distraction.

Caroline had her facebook page hijacked. But she supports Barack for President. Messy divorces are tragic, but you have got to be a fairly poor father to alienate your children.

Caroline Giuliani, a 17-year-old heading to Harvard this fall, removed the affiliation from her Facebook profile after being contacted by Slate. Her father refused to comment when reached on the campaign trail in Iowa. The Obama campaign also refused to comment

anangryoldbroad @ 142

fdl reader @ 132

Ding! Ding! Ding!

Are you freaking KIDDING ME??(sorry for the raised voice)

They only meet once a month? Do any of these people take their jobs seriously?

Damnit. This is why the GOP has run us over,put it in reverse and run over us again. They have more meetings and conventions than you can shake a stick at. Grover Norquist has had weekly meetings for years,there’s breakfasts with think tankers and members of the House and Senate,all that kind of stuff,all the time.

What the hell is wrong with these people?

You need to take this one upstairs for the new post. It fits right in.

anangryoldbroad @ 142

fdl reader @ 132

Ding! Ding! Ding!

Are you freaking KIDDING ME??(sorry for the raised voice)

They only meet once a month? Do any of these people take their jobs seriously?

Damnit. This is why the GOP has run us over,put it in reverse and run over us again. They have more meetings and conventions than you can shake a stick at. Grover Norquist has had weekly meetings for years,there’s breakfasts with think tankers and members of the House and Senate,all that kind of stuff,all the time.

What the hell is wrong with these people?

I don’t know how often the Ds meet. I meant it metaphorically. However often they meet, it’s not enough. I should better have said they never meet to plot strategy.

anangryoldbroad @ 142

fdl reader @ 132

Ding! Ding! Ding!

Are you freaking KIDDING ME??(sorry for the raised voice)

They only meet once a month? Do any of these people take their jobs seriously?

Damnit. This is why the GOP has run us over,put it in reverse and run over us again. They have more meetings and conventions than you can shake a stick at. Grover Norquist has had weekly meetings for years,there’s breakfasts with think tankers and members of the House and Senate,all that kind of stuff,all the time.

What the hell is wrong with these people?

They just don’t care. We have a real problem.

Maybe they are just DFHs?

Kinda cute how Chris Matthews gets a little tent in his pants every time he mentions RUDY…has a thing for bald guys?

raven @ 125

Northwest Gal @ 120

My daughter is at Fort Campbell now.

Bless her. I got this from an old SF buddy today

A veteran – whether active duty, retired, or national guard or reserve – is someone who, at one point in his/her life, wrote a blank check made payable to “The United States of America”, for an amount of “up to and including my life.”

Thank you.
That’s the truth, body and soul.

@ 133

Northwest Gal @ 120

My daughter is at Fort Campbell now.

I was assigned to the hospital there, radiology.

She was in S. Korea for a year, then to Iraq for a year. Back in the states since October. Works with computers.

Northwest Gal @ 149

@ 133

I was assigned to the hospital there, radiology.

She was in S. Korea for a year, then to Iraq for a year. Back in the states since October. Works with computers.

Interesting side trips. I’ll bet you’re glad to have back from Iraq safe?!

Where in the NW are you?

I must be a real dunce but I can’t figure
out what the hell this is all about.
I did enjoy Jane’s appearance on CNN with
Rick Sanchez on sunday.A composed pro,Jane that is!

Lee,

That’s around 21 properties, plus or minus by my quick count just now. GONE! TAKEN! TOTAL LOSS!

Some real estate ‘Guru’ ; )

Oops! Sorry. Wrong board! LOL ; )

anangryoldbroad @ 136

raven @ 127

Won’t let me in.

You gotta be on Facebook to see ‘em.

Great pics though! Chicago is prettier than I thought.

I am on Facebook, but it won’t let me in either. Second time this has happened.