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		<title>By: James McMinn JR</title>
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		<dc:creator>James McMinn JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 00:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Made the phone call.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cafepress.com/lalalandshirts&quot;&gt;Democratic Shirts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Made the phone call.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cafepress.com/lalalandshirts">Democratic Shirts</a></p>
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		<title>By: mls</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/04/dialing-for-spinesagain/#comment-871522</link>
		<dc:creator>mls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 18:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-871277&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LS @ 133&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-871246&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Adie @ 114&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;THIS LINK WORKS to Speaker’s e-mail. Start filling it up pups!  I just sent my 2cts.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://speaker.house.gov/contact/&quot;&gt;http://speaker.house.gov/contact/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I sent mine, and I told her to make sure Democrats refrain from referring to the United States of America as “The Homeland”, because it is offensive and reminiscent of Germany in the 1930’s.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt; I just tried phoning and her voice mailbox is full so I just sent an email. Thanks for the link! And I’m with ya on that “The Homeland” crap. I cringe every time I hear it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-871277"><em>LS @ 133</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-871246"><em>Adie @ 114</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>THIS LINK WORKS to Speaker’s e-mail. Start filling it up pups!  I just sent my 2cts.</p>
<p><a href="http://speaker.house.gov/contact/">http://speaker.house.gov/contact/</a></p>
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<p>I sent mine, and I told her to make sure Democrats refrain from referring to the United States of America as “The Homeland”, because it is offensive and reminiscent of Germany in the 1930’s.</p>
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<p> I just tried phoning and her voice mailbox is full so I just sent an email. Thanks for the link! And I’m with ya on that “The Homeland” crap. I cringe every time I hear it.</p>
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		<title>By: fdl reader</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/04/dialing-for-spinesagain/#comment-871482</link>
		<dc:creator>fdl reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 17:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;selise @ 181&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah: I’m desperate for actions that take the current frame into account and have *some* hope of change.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I see primaries as huge ~ that’s my awareness today.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And this terror propaganda is from LIARS and is working too well for BushCo.  Grow UP Congress.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I burnt out on calls and letters over Alito.  Made myself sick.  I can’t ignore what’s happening but … man, it’s a crock on days like today.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Take Care.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>selise @ 181</p>
<p>Yeah: I’m desperate for actions that take the current frame into account and have *some* hope of change.</p>
<p>I see primaries as huge ~ that’s my awareness today.</p>
<p>And this terror propaganda is from LIARS and is working too well for BushCo.  Grow UP Congress.</p>
<p>I burnt out on calls and letters over Alito.  Made myself sick.  I can’t ignore what’s happening but … man, it’s a crock on days like today.</p>
<p>Take Care.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Scott</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/04/dialing-for-spinesagain/#comment-871476</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 17:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Feinstein voted Yes; Boxer voted “present.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(WTF is that? “Present” is the new “absent”; “Voting ‘warm body’ here; I just can’t make up my mind — give more unchecked power to Bush? Give more surveillance power — unchecked by court review — to Abu Gonzales?”)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All I can figure is, the Bushies have J. Edgared the whole lot of them. IOW, he’s got evidence of Senator X’s bestiality downloads; he’s got evidence that Congresswoman Y lights up the occasional doobie at home; he’s got evidence that “family values” Senator Z lives a secret life as a leather-clad bottom. And he’s threatened each and every one of them with exposure, if they don’t do his bidding.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;{shakes head}&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My ex-SIL used to have what I considered the most frustrating job in the world: Teaching the least-teachable of the “special ed” kids. She said she’d FINALLY get them to grasp a simple task, only to come back from summer vacation, to find that they’d forgotten how to do it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m beginning to understand how she felt.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feinstein voted Yes; Boxer voted “present.”</p>
<p>(WTF is that? “Present” is the new “absent”; “Voting ‘warm body’ here; I just can’t make up my mind — give more unchecked power to Bush? Give more surveillance power — unchecked by court review — to Abu Gonzales?”)</p>
<p>All I can figure is, the Bushies have J. Edgared the whole lot of them. IOW, he’s got evidence of Senator X’s bestiality downloads; he’s got evidence that Congresswoman Y lights up the occasional doobie at home; he’s got evidence that “family values” Senator Z lives a secret life as a leather-clad bottom. And he’s threatened each and every one of them with exposure, if they don’t do his bidding.</p>
<p>{shakes head}</p>
<p>My ex-SIL used to have what I considered the most frustrating job in the world: Teaching the least-teachable of the “special ed” kids. She said she’d FINALLY get them to grasp a simple task, only to come back from summer vacation, to find that they’d forgotten how to do it.</p>
<p>I’m beginning to understand how she felt.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 17:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-871366&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;fdl reader @ 177&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;selise @ 176&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hear you ~ but we have to do everything we can.  It would be wise to be ready to absorb people who are angry enough to become active at this point for the first time in their lives.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And, honestly, in my mind today I am unwilling to give up any seat to these failures.  It’s just beyond accepting anymore.  The first step is to stop accepting it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i have no intention of giving up… but i might go back to social movement politics… not sure if anything i’m doing electoral wise or lobbying wise is helpful.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;so read the about the analysis of the anti-war movement above - and it rings really true for me.  planning on going to the dnc next summer - to protest.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;not gonna make a decision now while i’m pissed… but i’m considering it. i see very little action for me to support in the blogosphere (at the moment) to help hold the dems accountable. last year the dems were in the minority and there was the lobbying for feingold’s censure resolution and the lamont campaign. now, with a dem majority in congress, there is even less - when i want more.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i’m probably just rambling… will head upstairs now.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-871366"><em>fdl reader @ 177</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>selise @ 176</p>
<p>I hear you ~ but we have to do everything we can.  It would be wise to be ready to absorb people who are angry enough to become active at this point for the first time in their lives.</p>
<p>And, honestly, in my mind today I am unwilling to give up any seat to these failures.  It’s just beyond accepting anymore.  The first step is to stop accepting it.</p>
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<p>i have no intention of giving up… but i might go back to social movement politics… not sure if anything i’m doing electoral wise or lobbying wise is helpful.</p>
<p>so read the about the analysis of the anti-war movement above &#8211; and it rings really true for me.  planning on going to the dnc next summer &#8211; to protest.</p>
<p>not gonna make a decision now while i’m pissed… but i’m considering it. i see very little action for me to support in the blogosphere (at the moment) to help hold the dems accountable. last year the dems were in the minority and there was the lobbying for feingold’s censure resolution and the lamont campaign. now, with a dem majority in congress, there is even less &#8211; when i want more.</p>
<p>i’m probably just rambling… will head upstairs now.</p>
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		<title>By: TiredFed</title>
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		<dc:creator>TiredFed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 17:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I moved upstairs.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Betty</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/04/dialing-for-spinesagain/#comment-871378</link>
		<dc:creator>Betty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 17:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-871142&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LS @ 41&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173&quot;&gt;http://video.google.com/videop.....3867390173&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;America: Freedom to Fascism&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1 hour 51 minutes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Worth the watch.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You’re right that is worth a watch, and after watching it is hard to see how income tax is lawful - is that why they are so adamant about stare decisis?   But we have no voice, they (both parties) come to us for our votes or cheat us out of them and when then get to DC never make eye contact again.  A third party will not work, what we need is a 2nd Constitutional Convention. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There are so many issues we could discuss and resolve, including the legality of income tax and the federal reserve.  Are corporations persons?  Add campaign finance reform, health care, habeas corpus, unitary exec. on and on and on.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You are all having fun at Yearly Kos think about how great a constitutional convention could be. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One of the events that led to the first Constitutional convention was a veterans protest riot.  They had fought and established this country and on returning home were losing their property due to unscrupulous lending which took advantage of the veterans need for cash to re-start their lives. Something like that anyway.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-871142"><em>LS @ 41</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173">http://video.google.com/videop&#8230;..3867390173</a></p>
<p>America: Freedom to Fascism</p>
<p>1 hour 51 minutes.</p>
<p>Worth the watch.</p>
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<p>You’re right that is worth a watch, and after watching it is hard to see how income tax is lawful &#8211; is that why they are so adamant about stare decisis?   But we have no voice, they (both parties) come to us for our votes or cheat us out of them and when then get to DC never make eye contact again.  A third party will not work, what we need is a 2nd Constitutional Convention. </p>
<p>There are so many issues we could discuss and resolve, including the legality of income tax and the federal reserve.  Are corporations persons?  Add campaign finance reform, health care, habeas corpus, unitary exec. on and on and on.  </p>
<p>You are all having fun at Yearly Kos think about how great a constitutional convention could be. </p>
<p>One of the events that led to the first Constitutional convention was a veterans protest riot.  They had fought and established this country and on returning home were losing their property due to unscrupulous lending which took advantage of the veterans need for cash to re-start their lives. Something like that anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/04/dialing-for-spinesagain/#comment-871370</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 16:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-871336&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;empy @ 170&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;My boy Bill Nelson was right there with ole’ DiFi casting his vote with the R’s on the tough issues.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mr. Nelsons Greatest Hits-&lt;br /&gt;
Confirm John Roberts = yes&lt;br /&gt;
Confirm all of Bush’s judges = yes&lt;br /&gt;
Reathorize Patriot Act = yes&lt;br /&gt;
Alternative energy incentives = no&lt;br /&gt;
Anti bankrupcy bill = yes&lt;br /&gt;
Military Commisions Act = yes&lt;br /&gt;
Estate tax relief act = yes&lt;br /&gt;
Restore top tax rate (over 1mil) to pre 2001 levels = no&lt;br /&gt;
Ban flag burning = yes&lt;br /&gt;
Extend Bush tax cuts = yes&lt;br /&gt;
English official language = yes&lt;br /&gt;
Promote Petraeus to 4 star (after great Iraq training success) = yes&lt;br /&gt;
Extend tax cuts on dividends &amp; cap gains = yes&lt;br /&gt;
Prevent PAC’s from employing family members =no&lt;br /&gt;
Immagration reform = vote with R’s every time&lt;br /&gt;
Cloture on Warner Iraq amdt. = yes&lt;br /&gt;
Cloture on Feingold Iraq amdt. = no&lt;br /&gt;
India-US peaceful atomic energy amdt = no&lt;br /&gt;
Limit waiver athority of President = no&lt;br /&gt;
Reid amdt. 4936 = no (1 of 3 Dems voting no)&lt;br /&gt;
Gulf of Mexico Energy Act = yes&lt;br /&gt;
Extra 85.6mil for immagration investigators (DHS) = yes&lt;br /&gt;
Fund Fire/Police/EMT urgent priorities w/reduction in tax breaks to over 1Mil incomes = no&lt;br /&gt;
US - Oman free trade agreement = yes&lt;br /&gt;
Levin sense of the Congress on Iraq policy = no&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and now&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush okay to spy on you with no oversight = YES&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Who needs republicans?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-871336"><em>empy @ 170</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>My boy Bill Nelson was right there with ole’ DiFi casting his vote with the R’s on the tough issues.</p>
<p>Mr. Nelsons Greatest Hits-<br />
Confirm John Roberts = yes<br />
Confirm all of Bush’s judges = yes<br />
Reathorize Patriot Act = yes<br />
Alternative energy incentives = no<br />
Anti bankrupcy bill = yes<br />
Military Commisions Act = yes<br />
Estate tax relief act = yes<br />
Restore top tax rate (over 1mil) to pre 2001 levels = no<br />
Ban flag burning = yes<br />
Extend Bush tax cuts = yes<br />
English official language = yes<br />
Promote Petraeus to 4 star (after great Iraq training success) = yes<br />
Extend tax cuts on dividends &amp; cap gains = yes<br />
Prevent PAC’s from employing family members =no<br />
Immagration reform = vote with R’s every time<br />
Cloture on Warner Iraq amdt. = yes<br />
Cloture on Feingold Iraq amdt. = no<br />
India-US peaceful atomic energy amdt = no<br />
Limit waiver athority of President = no<br />
Reid amdt. 4936 = no (1 of 3 Dems voting no)<br />
Gulf of Mexico Energy Act = yes<br />
Extra 85.6mil for immagration investigators (DHS) = yes<br />
Fund Fire/Police/EMT urgent priorities w/reduction in tax breaks to over 1Mil incomes = no<br />
US &#8211; Oman free trade agreement = yes<br />
Levin sense of the Congress on Iraq policy = no</p>
<p>and now</p>
<p>Bush okay to spy on you with no oversight = YES</p>
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<p>Who needs republicans?</p>
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		<title>By: fdl reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>fdl reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 16:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;selise @ 176&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hear you ~ but we have to do everything we can.  It would be wise to be ready to absorb people who are angry enough to become active at this point for the first time in their lives.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And, honestly, in my mind today I am unwilling to give up any seat to these failures.  It’s just beyond accepting anymore.  The first step is to stop accepting it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>selise @ 176</p>
<p>I hear you ~ but we have to do everything we can.  It would be wise to be ready to absorb people who are angry enough to become active at this point for the first time in their lives.</p>
<p>And, honestly, in my mind today I am unwilling to give up any seat to these failures.  It’s just beyond accepting anymore.  The first step is to stop accepting it.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 16:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-871339&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;fdl reader @ 172&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;AND they clearly do not understand that they are laying solid ground work out here for many “primary challengers.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;there’s not enough resources to go after all of them (yet). think of what was put into lamont’s campaign last year.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;there is enough anger though for some third party challenges (especially for pres) that could throw the race. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/25372&quot;&gt;this analysis&lt;/a&gt; is not reassuring:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Newswise — The Democratic Party stands to lose the 2008 presidential election unless it takes a stronger stand against the Iraq war, a University of Florida researcher says.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The loose coalition of groups opposed to American involvement in the Iraq war, which helped defeat Republicans in the 2006 midterm elections, is considerably less sympathetic to the Democrats and plans massive protests at the party’s national convention next summer in Denver, said Michael T. Heaney, a political science professor.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“We see a very clear shift in the anti-war movement against the Democratic Party just in the last couple of months,” said Heaney, who has written an article on anti-war activists that appears in the July edition of American Politics Research journal. “And the basic reason for that is the anti-war forces are very disappointed that the Democrats have not kept their promise to bring the troops home, which was their mandate after the 2006 election.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-871339"><em>fdl reader @ 172</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>AND they clearly do not understand that they are laying solid ground work out here for many “primary challengers.”</p>
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<p>there’s not enough resources to go after all of them (yet). think of what was put into lamont’s campaign last year.</p>
<p>there is enough anger though for some third party challenges (especially for pres) that could throw the race. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/25372">this analysis</a> is not reassuring:</p>
<blockquote><p>Newswise — The Democratic Party stands to lose the 2008 presidential election unless it takes a stronger stand against the Iraq war, a University of Florida researcher says.</p>
<p>The loose coalition of groups opposed to American involvement in the Iraq war, which helped defeat Republicans in the 2006 midterm elections, is considerably less sympathetic to the Democrats and plans massive protests at the party’s national convention next summer in Denver, said Michael T. Heaney, a political science professor.</p>
<p>“We see a very clear shift in the anti-war movement against the Democratic Party just in the last couple of months,” said Heaney, who has written an article on anti-war activists that appears in the July edition of American Politics Research journal. “And the basic reason for that is the anti-war forces are very disappointed that the Democrats have not kept their promise to bring the troops home, which was their mandate after the 2006 election.”</p>
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