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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/03/revise-fisa-trust-the-white-house-are-you-serious/#comment-870556</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 04:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-868464&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;NMvoiceofreason @ 41&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-868432&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;perris @ 15&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I’m surprised at feingold…he of all people should know this is not enough…then president does what he wants regardless his guarantees and congress does nothing against his brazen violation of committments and oaths&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;How about no changes until everyone involved in the violations of 60 USC 1809 (the criminal FISA statute) is brought before a court and required to produce the warrant that allowed them to make or use the intercept, and everybody who doesn’t have one gets to go to jail for five years, every count consecutive?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Isn’t it amazing that the simple suggestion of enforcing the law can sound so radical, so outrageously unusual and dangerous?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I see no reason to change the parts of the FISA law which relate to things previously known and experienced. For things which are new there might be a need to either find a way to apply existing law or actually write some new law.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I trust the Senate to handle it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-868464"><em>NMvoiceofreason @ 41</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-868432"><em>perris @ 15</em></a></p>
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<p>I’m surprised at feingold…he of all people should know this is not enough…then president does what he wants regardless his guarantees and congress does nothing against his brazen violation of committments and oaths<br />
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<p>How about no changes until everyone involved in the violations of 60 USC 1809 (the criminal FISA statute) is brought before a court and required to produce the warrant that allowed them to make or use the intercept, and everybody who doesn’t have one gets to go to jail for five years, every count consecutive?</p>
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<p>Isn’t it amazing that the simple suggestion of enforcing the law can sound so radical, so outrageously unusual and dangerous?</p>
<p>I see no reason to change the parts of the FISA law which relate to things previously known and experienced. For things which are new there might be a need to either find a way to apply existing law or actually write some new law.</p>
<p>I trust the Senate to handle it.</p>
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		<title>By: jacqrat</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/03/revise-fisa-trust-the-white-house-are-you-serious/#comment-869308</link>
		<dc:creator>jacqrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-868416&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TiredFed @ 7&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;and they are all at the FDL breakfast now! waving from Balto! guess it’s gonna be kinda quiet here today. I’m gonna go read that new CRS report on contempt now. It is a doozy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I guess what TiredFed is TRYING to say is.. “&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtQFq2XUpTc&quot;&gt;Good Morning, Baltimore!&lt;/a&gt;“&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(Sorry I couldn’t resist. WHO KNEW he was in Baltimore?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-868416"><em>TiredFed @ 7</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>and they are all at the FDL breakfast now! waving from Balto! guess it’s gonna be kinda quiet here today. I’m gonna go read that new CRS report on contempt now. It is a doozy.</p>
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<p>I guess what TiredFed is TRYING to say is.. “<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtQFq2XUpTc">Good Morning, Baltimore!</a>“</p>
<p>(Sorry I couldn’t resist. WHO KNEW he was in Baltimore?</p>
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		<title>By: phred</title>
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		<dc:creator>phred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-868696&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;David W. Bartoo @ 126&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;LS @ 122&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You always bring great things to these tea parties.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;P.J. @ 125&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ah, but what will replace the r’s when they’re&lt;br /&gt;
lost in a bathtub?  And the d’s, they appear lost at sea, eh, mutiny, you say?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Arrr, mutiny it is then ;)  Watch out ye scurvy dogs, DiFi I’m lookin’ at you…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-868696"><em>David W. Bartoo @ 126</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>LS @ 122</p>
<p>You always bring great things to these tea parties.</p>
<p>P.J. @ 125</p>
<p>Ah, but what will replace the r’s when they’re<br />
lost in a bathtub?  And the d’s, they appear lost at sea, eh, mutiny, you say?</p>
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<p>Arrr, mutiny it is then ;)  Watch out ye scurvy dogs, DiFi I’m lookin’ at you…</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/03/revise-fisa-trust-the-white-house-are-you-serious/#comment-868814</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-868771&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;hazmaq @ 129&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The problem for Feingold is that he’s still dealing with the same Senate Democratic ‘cowards’ that broke their committment to him over revisions to the Patriot Act.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In a Hill interview Schumer admitted he used fearmongering and the DCCC purse strings to force through that legislation, and others like it, for ’strategic reasons’.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well, there’s one thing the Dems have in common with Bush:  ’stategery’.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;link?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-868771"><em>hazmaq @ 129</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>The problem for Feingold is that he’s still dealing with the same Senate Democratic ‘cowards’ that broke their committment to him over revisions to the Patriot Act.</p>
<p>In a Hill interview Schumer admitted he used fearmongering and the DCCC purse strings to force through that legislation, and others like it, for ’strategic reasons’.</p>
<p>Well, there’s one thing the Dems have in common with Bush:  ’stategery’.</p>
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<p>link?</p>
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		<title>By: hazmaq</title>
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		<dc:creator>hazmaq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The problem for Feingold is that he’s still dealing with the same Senate Democratic ‘cowards’ that broke their committment to him over revisions to the Patriot Act.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In a Hill interview Schumer admitted he used fearmongering and the DCCC purse strings to force through that legislation, and others like it, for ’strategic reasons’.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well, there’s one thing the Dems have in common with Bush:  ’stategery’.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem for Feingold is that he’s still dealing with the same Senate Democratic ‘cowards’ that broke their committment to him over revisions to the Patriot Act.</p>
<p>In a Hill interview Schumer admitted he used fearmongering and the DCCC purse strings to force through that legislation, and others like it, for ’strategic reasons’.</p>
<p>Well, there’s one thing the Dems have in common with Bush:  ’stategery’.</p>
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		<title>By: TiredFed</title>
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		<dc:creator>TiredFed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-868602&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LS @ 119&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Judge rules in favor of Jefferson against FBI raid:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Court_rules_against_FBI_for_raiding_0803.html&quot;&gt;http://rawstory.com/news/2007/....._0803.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;that could be useful. stay tuned.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-868602"><em>LS @ 119</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Judge rules in favor of Jefferson against FBI raid:</p>
<p><a href="http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Court_rules_against_FBI_for_raiding_0803.html">http://rawstory.com/news/2007/&#8230;.._0803.html</a></p>
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<p>that could be useful. stay tuned.</p>
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		<title>By: Madison Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madison Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The politics of fear is what makes the FISA abuses possible, and one of the helpful facilitators has always been scaredy-cat Ann Althouse (who voted for Gore in 2000, but because things are so scary, has been backing Bush ever since and voted for him in 2004 — go figure). So this is interesting: &lt;a href=&quot;http://letterfromhere.blogspot.com/2007/08/ann-althouses-terrorism-meltdown-on.html&quot;&gt;Ann Althouse’s terrorism meltdown on Wisconsin Public Radio, beating up on the liberals (again).&lt;/a&gt; She’s looking for cheese in all the wrong places.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The politics of fear is what makes the FISA abuses possible, and one of the helpful facilitators has always been scaredy-cat Ann Althouse (who voted for Gore in 2000, but because things are so scary, has been backing Bush ever since and voted for him in 2004 — go figure). So this is interesting: <a href="http://letterfromhere.blogspot.com/2007/08/ann-althouses-terrorism-meltdown-on.html">Ann Althouse’s terrorism meltdown on Wisconsin Public Radio, beating up on the liberals (again).</a> She’s looking for cheese in all the wrong places.</p>
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		<title>By: David W. Bartoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>David W. Bartoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;LS @ 122&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You always bring great things to these tea parties.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;P.J. @ 125&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ah, but what will replace the r’s when they’re&lt;br /&gt;
lost in a bathtub?  And the d’s, they appear lost at sea, eh, mutiny, you say?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LS @ 122</p>
<p>You always bring great things to these tea parties.</p>
<p>P.J. @ 125</p>
<p>Ah, but what will replace the r’s when they’re<br />
lost in a bathtub?  And the d’s, they appear lost at sea, eh, mutiny, you say?</p>
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		<title>By: P J Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>P J Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;AngryAmerican @ 124&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There are a couple of hundred parties in this country. Most of them have membership in the hundreds, maybe one or two thousand. None of them are worth a lot, &lt;em&gt;including&lt;/em&gt; the big ones. But they &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; a way of working together, and it’s lots easier to take over an existing one than to build a new party from the ground up.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AngryAmerican @ 124</p>
<p>There are a couple of hundred parties in this country. Most of them have membership in the hundreds, maybe one or two thousand. None of them are worth a lot, <em>including</em> the big ones. But they <em>are</em> a way of working together, and it’s lots easier to take over an existing one than to build a new party from the ground up.</p>
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		<title>By: AngryAmerican</title>
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		<dc:creator>AngryAmerican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;First, leave FISA alone.  There is nothing wrong with the process as it was originally written.  Anyone that votes to change it should be run out of town by recall if possible in their state, or at minimum in the next election.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Second, I can’t believe the number of people I see here that think that things like inherent contempt are actually going to accomplish anything.  There is one tool left, and that is impeachment.  It is a waste of time to be talking about anything else.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Third, if by some chance, this country survives this criminal adminstration, doesn’t go into military lockdown, actually has an election not stolen by the repigs and a non repuke does win the White House, I see a third party rising to power.  You all are aware that there are more than two parties in this country right?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, leave FISA alone.  There is nothing wrong with the process as it was originally written.  Anyone that votes to change it should be run out of town by recall if possible in their state, or at minimum in the next election.</p>
<p>Second, I can’t believe the number of people I see here that think that things like inherent contempt are actually going to accomplish anything.  There is one tool left, and that is impeachment.  It is a waste of time to be talking about anything else.</p>
<p>Third, if by some chance, this country survives this criminal adminstration, doesn’t go into military lockdown, actually has an election not stolen by the repigs and a non repuke does win the White House, I see a third party rising to power.  You all are aware that there are more than two parties in this country right?</p>
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