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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/02/zingers/#comment-868145</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 06:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-866585&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;brendan @ 83&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Probably.  Here’s what Wikipedia says about the invocation of this act (i.e., Bush’s action jibes with its usual use here):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There were 32 declared national emergencies between 1976 and 2001. (Ref. 3) Most of these were for the purpose of restricting trade with certain foreign entities under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) (50 U.S.C. 1701-1707)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here’s a link from wikipedia that includes all instances of such “emergencies” since 1976:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/6216.pdf&quot;&gt;http://fpc.state.gov/documents.....n/6216.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Indeed, we’ve lived under such National Emergencies since 9/11. But a Joint Resolution of Congress OR Presidential announcement can terminate such a National Emergency.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thus a simplae majority of both houses of Congress is sufficient to terminate any Emergency…of course, providing that the Republicans don’t filibuster.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode50/usc_sec_50_00001622—-000-.html&quot;&gt;http://www.law.cornell.edu/usc.....-000-.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010914-4.html&quot;&gt;http://www.whitehouse.gov/news.....914-4.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-866585"><em>brendan @ 83</em></a></p>
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<p>Probably.  Here’s what Wikipedia says about the invocation of this act (i.e., Bush’s action jibes with its usual use here):</p>
<p>There were 32 declared national emergencies between 1976 and 2001. (Ref. 3) Most of these were for the purpose of restricting trade with certain foreign entities under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) (50 U.S.C. 1701-1707)</p>
<p>Here’s a link from wikipedia that includes all instances of such “emergencies” since 1976:<br />
<a href="http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/6216.pdf">http://fpc.state.gov/documents&#8230;..n/6216.pdf</a></p>
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<p>Indeed, we’ve lived under such National Emergencies since 9/11. But a Joint Resolution of Congress OR Presidential announcement can terminate such a National Emergency.</p>
<p>Thus a simplae majority of both houses of Congress is sufficient to terminate any Emergency…of course, providing that the Republicans don’t filibuster.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode50/usc_sec_50_00001622—-000-.html">http://www.law.cornell.edu/usc&#8230;..-000-.html</a><br />
  <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010914-4.html">http://www.whitehouse.gov/news&#8230;..914-4.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/02/zingers/#comment-868133</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 06:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-866559&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LS @ 57&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;What the hell is this???  It is a new EO regarding blocking assets of people involved with Lebanon/Syria….however, in it, the president &lt;b&gt;has declared 8/2/07, national emergency.&lt;/b&gt;  By doing this, isn’t he automatically putting Directive 51 and the other EO’s into effect????&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don’t know about the covert “declaration of National Emergency”…heck I didn’t even think we were at a Code Yellow…much less a Code Red!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But it does seem that ISRAEL and ISRAELI supporters could very easily fall under the umbrella of being defined as “terrorists” under this Executive Order.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“A) to have taken, or to pose a significant risk of taking, actions, including acts of violence, that have the purpose or EFFECT of undermining Lebanon’s democratic processes or institutions, CONTRIBUTING TO the breakdown of the rule of law in Lebanon, supporting the reassertion of Syrian control or otherwise contributing to Syrian interference in Lebanon, or infringing upon or UNDERMINING LEBANESE SOVREIGNITY”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-866559"><em>LS @ 57</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>What the hell is this???  It is a new EO regarding blocking assets of people involved with Lebanon/Syria….however, in it, the president <b>has declared 8/2/07, national emergency.</b>  By doing this, isn’t he automatically putting Directive 51 and the other EO’s into effect????</p>
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<p>Don’t know about the covert “declaration of National Emergency”…heck I didn’t even think we were at a Code Yellow…much less a Code Red!</p>
<p>But it does seem that ISRAEL and ISRAELI supporters could very easily fall under the umbrella of being defined as “terrorists” under this Executive Order.</p>
<p>“A) to have taken, or to pose a significant risk of taking, actions, including acts of violence, that have the purpose or EFFECT of undermining Lebanon’s democratic processes or institutions, CONTRIBUTING TO the breakdown of the rule of law in Lebanon, supporting the reassertion of Syrian control or otherwise contributing to Syrian interference in Lebanon, or infringing upon or UNDERMINING LEBANESE SOVREIGNITY”</p>
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		<title>By: realworld</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/02/zingers/#comment-866654</link>
		<dc:creator>realworld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-866608&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Elliott @ 104&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-866602&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;twolf1 @ 99&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Snowjob on CSPAM3 bashing Dem Congress for doing nothing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;do you know if the SJC is resuming at 2:00 pm?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wish someone would ask Snow the following: “Tony, we know you don’t have much time left in this world and we are all very sorry you have to suffer this. But don’t you have any concerns about the damaged world you will be leaving behind?”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-866608"><em>Elliott @ 104</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-866602"><em>twolf1 @ 99</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Snowjob on CSPAM3 bashing Dem Congress for doing nothing.</p>
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<p>do you know if the SJC is resuming at 2:00 pm?</p>
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<p>I wish someone would ask Snow the following: “Tony, we know you don’t have much time left in this world and we are all very sorry you have to suffer this. But don’t you have any concerns about the damaged world you will be leaving behind?”</p>
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		<title>By: Nola Sue</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/02/zingers/#comment-866638</link>
		<dc:creator>Nola Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-866612&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Prairie Sunshine @ 108&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Republican philosophy of governing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They covet.  Greed rules.  And Me, the Sheeple goes along….&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;…driving off a bridge to nowhere.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-866612"><em>Prairie Sunshine @ 108</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Republican philosophy of governing.</p>
<p>They covet.  Greed rules.  And Me, the Sheeple goes along….</p>
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<p>…driving off a bridge to nowhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank33</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/02/zingers/#comment-866630</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am so hyperbolic (instead of parabolic or elliptical). I thought I saw a bright, shiny object, but I will just move along. Nothing to see here…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so hyperbolic (instead of parabolic or elliptical). I thought I saw a bright, shiny object, but I will just move along. Nothing to see here…</p>
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		<title>By: OldCoastie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/02/zingers/#comment-866626</link>
		<dc:creator>OldCoastie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;new thread - Jane in the house.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>new thread &#8211; Jane in the house.</p>
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		<title>By: Biodun</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/02/zingers/#comment-866623</link>
		<dc:creator>Biodun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.startribune.com/10136/gallery/1339564.html&quot;&gt;Photo Gallery: Bridge: Day 2.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.startribune.com/10136/gallery/1339564.html">Photo Gallery: Bridge: Day 2.</a></p>
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		<title>By: OldCoastie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/02/zingers/#comment-866622</link>
		<dc:creator>OldCoastie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-866616&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Rayne @ 110&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Okay, I’m eating lunch and now I’m in full panic mode after reading that bit about the EO.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What the hell is going on???&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;if I had to guess, the shrub invoked some sort of “emergency” so he can seize assets of someone he thinks if funding Hezbollah… I think we’d hear more about it if we were all suddenly under martial law…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-866616"><em>Rayne @ 110</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Okay, I’m eating lunch and now I’m in full panic mode after reading that bit about the EO.</p>
<p>What the hell is going on???</p>
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<p>if I had to guess, the shrub invoked some sort of “emergency” so he can seize assets of someone he thinks if funding Hezbollah… I think we’d hear more about it if we were all suddenly under martial law…</p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/02/zingers/#comment-866621</link>
		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-866603&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Frank33 @ 100&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is about 110 word paragraph. I hope no one says that this EXECUTIVE ORDER by KommanderGuy does not mean what it says but it means something else. Because our dictatorship is operative now&lt;b&gt;-We are in a national emergency.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;_____________________&lt;br /&gt;
I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, determine that the actions of certain persons to undermine Lebanon’s legitimate and democratically elected government or democratic institutions, to contribute to the deliberate breakdown in the rule of law in Lebanon, including through politically motivated violence and intimidation, to reassert Syrian control or contribute to Syrian interference in Lebanon, or to infringe upon or undermine Lebanese sovereignty contribute to political and economic instability in that country and the region and &lt;b&gt;constitute an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States, and I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;See me at 57, and the subsequent responses to my comment.  I’m with you. (my bold above) I think they have created a scenario in which to declare such an emergency because of all of the powers he has recently declared that he can claim by declaring such an emergency; hence all of the executive privilege stonewalling, etc.  Others comment that we’ve been under a national emergency since 9/11, and that is true too.  I think they just quietly attempted or did cement the dictatorship.  I think he means what he says.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-866603"><em>Frank33 @ 100</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>This is about 110 word paragraph. I hope no one says that this EXECUTIVE ORDER by KommanderGuy does not mean what it says but it means something else. Because our dictatorship is operative now<b>-We are in a national emergency.</b></p>
<p>_____________________<br />
I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, determine that the actions of certain persons to undermine Lebanon’s legitimate and democratically elected government or democratic institutions, to contribute to the deliberate breakdown in the rule of law in Lebanon, including through politically motivated violence and intimidation, to reassert Syrian control or contribute to Syrian interference in Lebanon, or to infringe upon or undermine Lebanese sovereignty contribute to political and economic instability in that country and the region and <b>constitute an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States, and I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat</b>.</p>
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<p>See me at 57, and the subsequent responses to my comment.  I’m with you. (my bold above) I think they have created a scenario in which to declare such an emergency because of all of the powers he has recently declared that he can claim by declaring such an emergency; hence all of the executive privilege stonewalling, etc.  Others comment that we’ve been under a national emergency since 9/11, and that is true too.  I think they just quietly attempted or did cement the dictatorship.  I think he means what he says.</p>
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		<title>By: mental_equinox</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/02/zingers/#comment-866620</link>
		<dc:creator>mental_equinox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-866616&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Rayne @ 112&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Okay, I’m eating lunch and now I’m in full panic mode after reading that bit about the EO.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What the hell is going on???&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nothing that I can see, beyond that he’s apparently giving CYA notice for being about to seize some assets.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-866616"><em>Rayne @ 112</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Okay, I’m eating lunch and now I’m in full panic mode after reading that bit about the EO.</p>
<p>What the hell is going on???</p>
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<p>Nothing that I can see, beyond that he’s apparently giving CYA notice for being about to seize some assets.</p>
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