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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/02/strange-is-your-language-and-i-have-no-decoder/#comment-868263</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 07:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-867239&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;oddmommy @ 195&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;since everyone seems to need a little humor this evening…&lt;br /&gt;
His grade was recorded as:  “F — Are you a moron?”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A true story.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now you can see why george bush graduated from that venerated institution.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Recall that Bush was a Yale History Major…and during one debate asserted that the Supreme Court in the Dred Scot decision OVERTURNED the Constitution (His point being that the Court in Roe v. Wade did the same)….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Except that it took the 14th and 15th Amendments to actually de-institutionalize slavery…and that the Court at the time they made the Dred Scot decision  was (terribly true) justified in making the decision with a Constitution that asserted that human beings were property.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How could Bush, a Yale History major, think that rights conferred by the 14th and 15th Amendment existed in the 1840’s?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I guess this is the same President who thinks that HE CREATES LAW, and that he can suspend Habeas Corpus at will, and that “it’s the Democrats that are not getting things done” when he declares “Executive Privilege” and denys them documents essential to do their work, vetos half the bills they pass, and encourages his own Party to filibuster. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Democrats should call him on this. If he wants “business done” in August…have him insist that the Republican Party provide HALF their membership (matching the Democrats) in the Senate so that a quorum can exist. And tell them to stop filibustering bills, and allow them to come to the floor for votes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-867239"><em>oddmommy @ 195</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>since everyone seems to need a little humor this evening…<br />
His grade was recorded as:  “F — Are you a moron?”</p>
<p>A true story.</p>
<p>Now you can see why george bush graduated from that venerated institution.</p>
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<p>Recall that Bush was a Yale History Major…and during one debate asserted that the Supreme Court in the Dred Scot decision OVERTURNED the Constitution (His point being that the Court in Roe v. Wade did the same)….</p>
<p>Except that it took the 14th and 15th Amendments to actually de-institutionalize slavery…and that the Court at the time they made the Dred Scot decision  was (terribly true) justified in making the decision with a Constitution that asserted that human beings were property.</p>
<p>How could Bush, a Yale History major, think that rights conferred by the 14th and 15th Amendment existed in the 1840’s?</p>
<p>I guess this is the same President who thinks that HE CREATES LAW, and that he can suspend Habeas Corpus at will, and that “it’s the Democrats that are not getting things done” when he declares “Executive Privilege” and denys them documents essential to do their work, vetos half the bills they pass, and encourages his own Party to filibuster. </p>
<p>The Democrats should call him on this. If he wants “business done” in August…have him insist that the Republican Party provide HALF their membership (matching the Democrats) in the Senate so that a quorum can exist. And tell them to stop filibustering bills, and allow them to come to the floor for votes.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/02/strange-is-your-language-and-i-have-no-decoder/#comment-868243</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 07:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-867088&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;looseheadprop @ 55&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-867059&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;nomolos @ 27&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Another question.  What could the chimp do if Jennings HAD ignored his diktat and answered the question.  Does the chimp have any power to punish (other than the small airplane thing)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;AS long as the info wasn’t classifed– I &lt;b&gt;think&lt;/b&gt; that all Shrub could do is fire the guy.  maybe try to get some kind of court order to prohibit the information from being used at a trial, but would that apply to a trial in the Senate? I do’t think there has been a case where this has come up.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My understanding is that, even if Executive Privilege does apply,  it is not embedded in the law. It’s somewhat like how a witness that testifies to a Grand Jury can discuss their testimony publically if they wish.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Folks have spoken about their conversations with the President for decades. They have never, ever been prosecuted for any information that was not justifiably classified for National Security issues.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And no one befor Bush has ever argued that Executive Privilege is extensible beyond Private COnversations with the President, himself. Conversations between Executive Office staffers or issues that related to ACTIONS and not ADVICE have never ben considered protected.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;These guys are not simply clamming up about  their ADVICE to the President…but what they did, others told them, the orders they received, failing to explain or discuss emails, etc. Many of these actions may have been criminal, as they violated the Hatch Act…others may have violated Federal Electoral Laws. Thus they are, even if themselves not guilty of the violations, but aware of them…involved in a type of Obstruction of Justice called Misprision of Felony. Executive Privilege can never, ever trump the investigation of criminal acts.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-867059"><em>nomolos @ 27</em></a></p>
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Another question.  What could the chimp do if Jennings HAD ignored his diktat and answered the question.  Does the chimp have any power to punish (other than the small airplane thing)</p>
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<p>AS long as the info wasn’t classifed– I <b>think</b> that all Shrub could do is fire the guy.  maybe try to get some kind of court order to prohibit the information from being used at a trial, but would that apply to a trial in the Senate? I do’t think there has been a case where this has come up.</p>
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<p>My understanding is that, even if Executive Privilege does apply,  it is not embedded in the law. It’s somewhat like how a witness that testifies to a Grand Jury can discuss their testimony publically if they wish.</p>
<p>Folks have spoken about their conversations with the President for decades. They have never, ever been prosecuted for any information that was not justifiably classified for National Security issues.</p>
<p>And no one befor Bush has ever argued that Executive Privilege is extensible beyond Private COnversations with the President, himself. Conversations between Executive Office staffers or issues that related to ACTIONS and not ADVICE have never ben considered protected.</p>
<p>These guys are not simply clamming up about  their ADVICE to the President…but what they did, others told them, the orders they received, failing to explain or discuss emails, etc. Many of these actions may have been criminal, as they violated the Hatch Act…others may have violated Federal Electoral Laws. Thus they are, even if themselves not guilty of the violations, but aware of them…involved in a type of Obstruction of Justice called Misprision of Felony. Executive Privilege can never, ever trump the investigation of criminal acts.</p>
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		<title>By: Eureka Springs</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/02/strange-is-your-language-and-i-have-no-decoder/#comment-867690</link>
		<dc:creator>Eureka Springs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 03:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/02/late-nite-fdl-we-interrupt-this-broadcast/&quot;&gt;LATE NITE!!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: randiego</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/02/strange-is-your-language-and-i-have-no-decoder/#comment-867339</link>
		<dc:creator>randiego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No. paranoid.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. paranoid.</p>
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		<title>By: randiego</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/02/strange-is-your-language-and-i-have-no-decoder/#comment-867333</link>
		<dc:creator>randiego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bob, did you see the comments by 4real? That ‘presentation’ struck me as a little… um, what’s the word… nuts.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, did you see the comments by 4real? That ‘presentation’ struck me as a little… um, what’s the word… nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Schacht</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Schacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-867063&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LS @ 31&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;More on Deepmodem:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/08/02/calling-all-intelmilitarygovt-regulars/#comments&quot;&gt;http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2...../#comments&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;…and make sure you read through the comments, as well.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks,&lt;br /&gt;
Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-867063"><em>LS @ 31</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>More on Deepmodem:</p>
<p><a href="http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/08/02/calling-all-intelmilitarygovt-regulars/#comments">http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2&#8230;../#comments</a></p>
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<p>…and make sure you read through the comments, as well.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: Educated Plaintiff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Educated Plaintiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-867277&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Toby Wollin @ 226&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;eCahnomics - Hinchey is doing his own thing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/ny22_hinchey/morenews/072607CensureResolutions.html&quot;&gt;http://www.house.gov/apps/list.....tions.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He’s going the censure route and going after Bush, Cheney, et al. Sounds like Maurice doesn’t think inpeachment has a shot.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;locals are calling for a meeting w/ maurice on this subject.  i will report back here after it happens.  i met him in the garden shop 2 months ago - asked if he would be interested in doing a session here - (he said yes) - i need to follow up on this.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-867277"><em>Toby Wollin @ 226</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>eCahnomics &#8211; Hinchey is doing his own thing.<br />
<a href="http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/ny22_hinchey/morenews/072607CensureResolutions.html">http://www.house.gov/apps/list&#8230;..tions.html</a></p>
<p>He’s going the censure route and going after Bush, Cheney, et al. Sounds like Maurice doesn’t think inpeachment has a shot.</p>
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<p>locals are calling for a meeting w/ maurice on this subject.  i will report back here after it happens.  i met him in the garden shop 2 months ago &#8211; asked if he would be interested in doing a session here &#8211; (he said yes) &#8211; i need to follow up on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Educated Plaintiff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Educated Plaintiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-867270&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;eCAHNomics @ 222&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;HP @ 212&lt;br /&gt;
Gotcha. I actually shortened my comment for that reason &amp; had second thoughts about what I did say.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Second your thought on NYC tap water. I fill up bottles &amp; put it in the fridge. The chlorine evaporates quickly &amp; then is much better than any other water I’ve ever had.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;hinchey your rep?  mine too ;)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-867270"><em>eCAHNomics @ 222</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>HP @ 212<br />
Gotcha. I actually shortened my comment for that reason &amp; had second thoughts about what I did say.</p>
<p>Second your thought on NYC tap water. I fill up bottles &amp; put it in the fridge. The chlorine evaporates quickly &amp; then is much better than any other water I’ve ever had.</p>
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<p>hinchey your rep?  mine too ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Educated Plaintiff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Educated Plaintiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-867256&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;looseheadprop @ 212&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-867242&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;eCAHNomics @ 198&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;LHP @ 181&lt;br /&gt;
Loved your first story. It’s the kind of thing I had imagined might be the case.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From what I’ve observed the aquaducts where they’re on the surface, they’re covered by quite a bit of dirt &amp; grass (hmmmm, wonder when they mow it-I’ve never actually seen that happening though they always look pretty well trimmed), so that it would take quite a bit of explosive to punch a meaningful hole.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I will not get int a discussion on the internet of how to blow them up. For obvious reasons.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I love NYC tap water&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i live near the ashokan - walk there all the time.  i can attest to them having very VERY serious security measures in effect there since sept 11th&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-867256"><em>looseheadprop @ 212</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-867242"><em>eCAHNomics @ 198</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>LHP @ 181<br />
Loved your first story. It’s the kind of thing I had imagined might be the case.</p>
<p>From what I’ve observed the aquaducts where they’re on the surface, they’re covered by quite a bit of dirt &amp; grass (hmmmm, wonder when they mow it-I’ve never actually seen that happening though they always look pretty well trimmed), so that it would take quite a bit of explosive to punch a meaningful hole.</p>
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<p>I will not get int a discussion on the internet of how to blow them up. For obvious reasons.</p>
<p>I love NYC tap water</p>
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<p>i live near the ashokan &#8211; walk there all the time.  i can attest to them having very VERY serious security measures in effect there since sept 11th</p>
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		<title>By: Margot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-867141&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;fdl reader @ 101&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;We ALL know that we have precious few additional defenses and that our system failed miserably on 9/11 … so … if this were such a grave danger, why haven’t we been hit again?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m not meaning to be scary, not at all, I just have to say …&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t know…&lt;br /&gt;
What I guess is that bin Laden wanted to wreak havoc on us and Bush was the perfect fool to react as he did.&lt;br /&gt;
If you look at a fuse, it just requires a match lit at one end. You don’t have to stand there with a blowtorch.  Just get out of the way.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-867141"><em>fdl reader @ 101</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>We ALL know that we have precious few additional defenses and that our system failed miserably on 9/11 … so … if this were such a grave danger, why haven’t we been hit again?</p>
<p>I’m not meaning to be scary, not at all, I just have to say …</p>
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<p>I don’t know…<br />
What I guess is that bin Laden wanted to wreak havoc on us and Bush was the perfect fool to react as he did.<br />
If you look at a fuse, it just requires a match lit at one end. You don’t have to stand there with a blowtorch.  Just get out of the way.</p>
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