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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/02/shockingly-predictable/#comment-868085</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 05:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-866380&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;barbara @ 251&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;OT, but can someone tell me who Vets for Freedom are?  They’ve just put out an ad supporting Norm Coleman.  I have a vague recollection that this might be the current version of the Swift Boaters.  Do you know?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here’s a little bit about them. Essentially they are a 527-group who consi9st of former pro-war Veterans (why didn’t they re-up?) and WH political cronies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They supported Lieberman in his re-election bid and thus call themselves “non-partisan”! LOL!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Vets_for_Freedom&quot;&gt;http://www.sourcewatch.org/ind.....or_Freedom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It seems the Democratic Party is actually not displeased with the ads ~ since it basically shows Coleman as supporting Bush and the war ;-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-866380"><em>barbara @ 251</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>OT, but can someone tell me who Vets for Freedom are?  They’ve just put out an ad supporting Norm Coleman.  I have a vague recollection that this might be the current version of the Swift Boaters.  Do you know?</p>
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<p>Here’s a little bit about them. Essentially they are a 527-group who consi9st of former pro-war Veterans (why didn’t they re-up?) and WH political cronies.</p>
<p>They supported Lieberman in his re-election bid and thus call themselves “non-partisan”! LOL!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Vets_for_Freedom">http://www.sourcewatch.org/ind&#8230;..or_Freedom</a></p>
<p>It seems the Democratic Party is actually not displeased with the ads ~ since it basically shows Coleman as supporting Bush and the war ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/02/shockingly-predictable/#comment-867049</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 21:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Leiberman is a coward.  Happy to send your kids or relatives to Iraq, but not any of his children or relatives.   If Lieberman has his  way the next stop will be Iran.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Liebermann received a deferment during Vietnam.  Serving in his war if for you folks not his family&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Lieberman&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Lieberman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Lieberman never served in the military. A spokesperson told the Hartford Courant in 1994 that Lieberman received an educational deferment from the Vietnam War draft when he was an undergraduate and law student from 1960 to 1967″&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leiberman is a coward.  Happy to send your kids or relatives to Iraq, but not any of his children or relatives.   If Lieberman has his  way the next stop will be Iran.</p>
<p>Liebermann received a deferment during Vietnam.  Serving in his war if for you folks not his family</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Lieberman">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Lieberman</a></p>
<p>“Lieberman never served in the military. A spokesperson told the Hartford Courant in 1994 that Lieberman received an educational deferment from the Vietnam War draft when he was an undergraduate and law student from 1960 to 1967″</p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/02/shockingly-predictable/#comment-867017</link>
		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;test&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>test</p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/02/shockingly-predictable/#comment-867009</link>
		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;testing&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>testing</p>
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		<title>By: Shell</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/02/shockingly-predictable/#comment-866943</link>
		<dc:creator>Shell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 19:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Every blogger and congressperson should call him what he is — all of them who won’t testify, actually — a COWARD.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Face it — they are like 5th graders. They can’t STAND being called cowards. They always act like they are SO BRAVE — and the Democrats are such cowards. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just say, “If you are afraid of Democrats in Congress, how do you expect to face Al Qaida?”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every blogger and congressperson should call him what he is — all of them who won’t testify, actually — a COWARD.</p>
<p>Face it — they are like 5th graders. They can’t STAND being called cowards. They always act like they are SO BRAVE — and the Democrats are such cowards. </p>
<p>Just say, “If you are afraid of Democrats in Congress, how do you expect to face Al Qaida?”</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/02/shockingly-predictable/#comment-866605</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This was smart — they basically tricked this not-too-bright guy into over-asserting privilege.  And if everything is privileged, nothing is privileged.  And his personal attorney seems to have been acquired through Rent-a-Lawyer.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was smart — they basically tricked this not-too-bright guy into over-asserting privilege.  And if everything is privileged, nothing is privileged.  And his personal attorney seems to have been acquired through Rent-a-Lawyer.</p>
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		<title>By: pat_alexva</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/02/shockingly-predictable/#comment-866540</link>
		<dc:creator>pat_alexva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;(TexB, I know you can’t ask… but wrt this:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“that some of the stuff from the media room ended up on the blog “&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Did the bloggers complain that some of the stuff on the blog ended up in the media?  Hmmm.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(TexB, I know you can’t ask… but wrt this:</p>
<p>“that some of the stuff from the media room ended up on the blog “</p>
<p>Did the bloggers complain that some of the stuff on the blog ended up in the media?  Hmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: mui</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/02/shockingly-predictable/#comment-866531</link>
		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Chimpy waxing inflammatory and dishonest, saying there’s an increase in discretionary spending. He projects it will get worse if Dems continue. He implies Dems not “fiscally responstible.” “They’re spending as we talk. They’ll raise your taxes. . .  The plan I put forward will balance the budget and keep taxes low.”&lt;br /&gt;
Er uh, as we speak, how much are contractors, Cheneys buddies spending in Iraq? I wonder.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chimpy waxing inflammatory and dishonest, saying there’s an increase in discretionary spending. He projects it will get worse if Dems continue. He implies Dems not “fiscally responstible.” “They’re spending as we talk. They’ll raise your taxes. . .  The plan I put forward will balance the budget and keep taxes low.”<br />
Er uh, as we speak, how much are contractors, Cheneys buddies spending in Iraq? I wonder.</p>
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		<title>By: TexB</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/02/shockingly-predictable/#comment-866528</link>
		<dc:creator>TexB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Q —&lt;br /&gt;
1) can/will civil suit re: Plame/Libby go forward?&lt;br /&gt;
2) can we see neena totenberg’s sock puppets?  two levels of reporting — for each other &amp; for the public&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;no answers to that one, or else i missed it.  may come back to it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Snook:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;new question — did snook/the judge have any complaints?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;that some of the stuff from the media room ended up on the blog&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q —<br />
1) can/will civil suit re: Plame/Libby go forward?<br />
2) can we see neena totenberg’s sock puppets?  two levels of reporting — for each other &amp; for the public</p>
<p>no answers to that one, or else i missed it.  may come back to it.</p>
<p>Snook:</p>
<p>new question — did snook/the judge have any complaints?</p>
<p>that some of the stuff from the media room ended up on the blog</p>
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		<title>By: realworld</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/02/shockingly-predictable/#comment-866523</link>
		<dc:creator>realworld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-866488&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;pseudonymous in nc @ 354&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think that Leahy’s now establishing a record to take to the court and show that the assertion of privilege is ever so much bullshit. Touching on all the areas that don’t count as internal WH discussion.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Going to court is a waste of time. Inherent Contempt is the only viable route. Let the WH defend against the Congressional claim instead of the other way around.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-866488"><em>pseudonymous in nc @ 354</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I think that Leahy’s now establishing a record to take to the court and show that the assertion of privilege is ever so much bullshit. Touching on all the areas that don’t count as internal WH discussion.</p>
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<p>Going to court is a waste of time. Inherent Contempt is the only viable route. Let the WH defend against the Congressional claim instead of the other way around.</p>
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