first?

Hello up here!

You got it, LL!

TRex!

tres!

woo hoo, that’s two in a row tonight ;-)

I’m still here. Loo Hoo is not going to sleep just yet, so I get to stay longer!

…and that’s pretty good, considering I’ve been up since 0430 on Wednesday…

waves to Loo Hoo

Loo Hoo says “hi” and she’ll be on soon.

Beautiful song and great video. I live in San Francisco; the video reminded me why I live here.

Someday I’ll make it out to San Fran.

Loo Hoo,

Since you didn’t get any of the hot fudge sundae last night, here’s a little peace offering.

The coldest winter I ever spent was one August in San Francisco.
-Mark Twain
Betcha global warming has made a liar out of MT.

burnspbesq @ 13

Loo Hoo,

Since you didn’t get any of the hot fudge sundae last night, here’s a little peace offering.

I take Token, the cutest dog in the world, for a walk and come back to you giving away my hot fudge sundae, burns.

Something a little different for you tonight, Suzanne. Hope you like it.

LoudounLib @ 6

woo hoo, that’s two in a row tonight ;-)

Give that lady a Leffe !!! *g*

Hi TexB – wish I was there!

LoudounLib @ 12

Someday I’ll make it out to San Fran.

If you’re going to San Francisco you’ll meet some gentle people there.

Hi Petrocelli! How’s things in TO?

Petrocelli @ 17

LoudounLib @ 6

woo hoo, that’s two in a row tonight ;-)

Give that lady a Leffe !!! *g*

Thanks Petro! I actually had one earlier…alas, it was the blond…

Alicia @ 18

Hi TexB – wish I was there!

I wish you were all here. We need an FDL convention!

It has all come down to this. This is it, the end of the world. They couldn’t be stopped. The are electronically taking over voting, right under our very noses. And we are not stopping it. So they will win everytime. Over the whole world. that is what these guys are playing for. A global coup. And we happily pay there way to enslave us. Now all we have to do is wait and watch. Go to work. Consume. Get a bigscreen tv, because what else is left for us.

They are taking over the surpreme court. The justice department. The military. Congress just doesn’t want to say anything. Because it is too big for them. Cheney is Darth Vader…literally. The royalists have won. Biology is dead. Wealth power and piracy on the high seas of space. They have total information awareness. They know every little thing you do. When our generations die, biology will be phased out. Except for those who are necessary.

It is exactly like it seemed. Take every thing at face value. When you do that, you are obliged to give up hope, hang up the towel. The raise oil to $85 a barrel because they can. It is the saudi elites, the american elites, the european, and they will all reconviene in Dubai. Waiting for the end of the rapture. Because it won’t really matter — whether god exists or not — they have put an exhaust hose to the tailpipe in the proverial garage. We are being Zycloned out of existence, while the winners await their badges of honor and a seat at the right hand of god. But it doesn’t matter if god exists or not. Because god does not live in the machine world. God is the god of biology. And biology is dead. It is checkmated in 4. So god is dead. It won’t be printed in the New York Times like Elton John’s Levon said, rather it will be printed in the Wall Street Journal. That is where the business leaders will get their instructions. The satalites all over the world are controlled by the same group. Information awareness and information control. The chinese are in control of the legions of producers. Bush has the weapons. The strain between Bush and Puhtin is all staged. The just installed Scarcozi in France and the new guy in england. Oh, it was elections. No it wasn’t – they control the electronic ballot boxes. And Blair made it seamless so that it could carry on a while longer.

Yes we are pissed. But what can you do about it. Then we die.

More fuckery at the DOJ (via WaPoo)…

seems they’ve hung Chiquita out to dry…

So here’s a fun San Francisco story. I have always loved the city (only place other than NYC where I would seriously consider living). So when I was on Wall St., I go there 1 or 2 X/year on client visits. I’m in BofA tower (iirc), meeting with their economist. We shake hands outside his office, I go in & take seat on one side of desk-the side looking out at the view of the Golden Gate Bridge. He informs me that I’m sitting in his chair. It’s the only office I’ve ever been in where the occupant (visely) chose to arrange the furniture so that he had the great view.

I first heard that song hitchhiking across the country with a french guy a guitar when I was 18. Getting stuck on an onramp with him in Dateland Arizona was one of the random moments that changed my life entirely.

http://freewayblogger.blogspot…..izona.html

Goddam uncanny you’d post it now, ‘cuz I’m damn near ready to give up. Thanks for reminding me why I can’t.

Alicia @ 20

Hi Petrocelli! How’s things in TO?

Hi Alicia … it’s Hot Hot Hot … this weekend is the Caribana festival …

still life living, i disagree – i’m not going to roll over and play dead since i’m fucked already

i’m here fighting still and will continue to do so. giving up solves nothing.

Ed Meese lives out there in the west also, mofo loxpucker!

OldCoastie @ 24

More fuckery at the DOJ (via WaPoo)…

seems they’ve hung Chiquita out to dry…

so burns, is there any association i should make with you and banana’s?

hoo boy, I have just hit the wall — good night everybody!

LoudounLib @ 21

Petrocelli @ 17

Give that lady a Leffe !!! *g*

Thanks Petro! I actually had one earlier…alas, it was the blond…

Blond’s good … but that Brunette … wawaweewa … *g*

still life living @ 23

It has all come down to this. This is it, the end of the world. They couldn’t be stopped. The are electronically taking over voting, right under our very noses. And we are not stopping it. So they will win everytime. Over the whole world. that is what these guys are playing for. A global coup. And we happily pay there way to enslave us. Now all we have to do is wait and watch. Go to work. Consume. Get a bigscreen tv, because what else is left for us.

They are taking over the surpreme court. The justice department. The military. Congress just doesn’t want to say anything. Because it is too big for them. Cheney is Darth Vader…literally. The royalists have won. Biology is dead. Wealth power and piracy on the high seas of space. They have total information awareness. They know every little thing you do. When our generations die, biology will be phased out. Except for those who are necessary.

It is exactly like it seemed. Take every thing at face value. When you do that, you are obliged to give up hope, hang up the towel. The raise oil to $85 a barrel because they can. It is the saudi elites, the american elites, the european, and they will all reconviene in Dubai. Waiting for the end of the rapture. Because it won’t really matter — whether god exists or not — they have put an exhaust hose to the tailpipe in the proverial garage. We are being Zycloned out of existence, while the winners await their badges of honor and a seat at the right hand of god. But it doesn’t matter if god exists or not. Because god does not live in the machine world. God is the god of biology. And biology is dead. It is checkmated in 4. So god is dead. It won’t be printed in the New York Times like Elton John’s Levon said, rather it will be printed in the Wall Street Journal. That is where the business leaders will get their instructions. The satalites all over the world are controlled by the same group. Information awareness and information control. The chinese are in control of the legions of producers. Bush has the weapons. The strain between Bush and Puhtin is all staged. The just installed Scarcozi in France and the new guy in england. Oh, it was elections. No it wasn’t – they control the electronic ballot boxes. And Blair made it seamless so that it could carry on a while longer.

Yes we are pissed. But what can you do about it. Then we die.

You sound like a high school classmate of mine. BHS’62?

As I said on an earlier thread, what’s the alternative? If your prognosis is accurate, what do you want to do before you die? Give up & have the most fun possible in you waning days (a perfectly reasonable choice) or fight? Fighters here.

Suzanne @ 30

OldCoastie @ 24

More fuckery at the DOJ (via WaPoo)…

seems they’ve hung Chiquita out to dry…

so burns, is there any association i should make with you and banana’s?

erm… I don’t think so Suzanne…!

still life living @ 23

It has all come down to this. This is it, the end of the world. They couldn’t be stopped. The are electronically taking over voting, right under our very noses. And we are not stopping it. So they will win everytime. Over the whole world. that is what these guys are playing for. A global coup. And we happily pay there way to enslave us. Now all we have to do is wait and watch. Go to work. Consume. Get a bigscreen tv, because what else is left for us.

They are taking over the surpreme court. The justice department. The military. Congress just doesn’t want to say anything. Because it is too big for them. Cheney is Darth Vader…literally. The royalists have won. Biology is dead. Wealth power and piracy on the high seas of space. They have total information awareness. They know every little thing you do. When our generations die, biology will be phased out. Except for those who are necessary.

It is exactly like it seemed. Take every thing at face value. When you do that, you are obliged to give up hope, hang up the towel. The raise oil to $85 a barrel because they can. It is the saudi elites, the american elites, the european, and they will all reconviene in Dubai. Waiting for the end of the rapture. Because it won’t really matter — whether god exists or not — they have put an exhaust hose to the tailpipe in the proverial garage. We are being Zycloned out of existence, while the winners await their badges of honor and a seat at the right hand of god. But it doesn’t matter if god exists or not. Because god does not live in the machine world. God is the god of biology. And biology is dead. It is checkmated in 4. So god is dead. It won’t be printed in the New York Times like Elton John’s Levon said, rather it will be printed in the Wall Street Journal. That is where the business leaders will get their instructions. The satalites all over the world are controlled by the same group. Information awareness and information control. The chinese are in control of the legions of producers. Bush has the weapons. The strain between Bush and Puhtin is all staged. The just installed Scarcozi in France and the new guy in england. Oh, it was elections. No it wasn’t – they control the electronic ballot boxes. And Blair made it seamless so that it could carry on a while longer.

Yes we are pissed. But what can you do about it. Then we die.

I say this with the utmost love in my heart for you. Please stop with the doom, despair and agony on me routine. Yes they have committed egregious crimes against the people of the United States. Yes it seems hopeless sometimes. Yes these are dark days, but whenever a gathering of like minds such as what takes place here daily and in other blogs and at conventions like YearlyKos I cannot help but hope for the future.

We may not be a majority in this country yet, but time and the numbers are on our side. There are more of us aware now than ever before and triple the number of people active in politics and engaged for a change. We are chatting up our friends families and neighbors and the elections are turning our way every cycle. And when they really truly overreach and try to grab even more power, that will shock folks into action. My heart of hearts knows this. We are on the right side, we will prevail.

Petro,
I’m blonde. You’d change your tune. :)
Just getting silly.

eCAHNomics @ 25

I’m in BofA tower (iirc), meeting with their economist. We shake hands outside his office, I go in & take seat on one side of desk-the side looking out at the view of the Golden Gate Bridge. He informs me that I’m sitting in his chair. It’s the only office I’ve ever been in where the occupant (visely) chose to arrange the furniture so that he had the great view.

about fifteen years ago my in-laws were visiting from France. they took a sight-seeing tour in a sea plane out of Sausalito. my beau-pere (f-i-l) had built his own airplane, so he connected with the pilot, who granted them a little perk: flying right by the B of A tower, probably less than 1000 ft. altitude.

those days are long gone, DHS-wise.

Suzanne @ 28

still life living, i disagree – i’m not going to roll over and play dead since i’m fucked already

i’m here fighting still and will continue to do so. giving up solves nothing.

I should tell you my theory about the simpson’s movie. It is a last ditch effort to say that something has to happen or that will be the outcume. Bart Simpson threw the bomb so we don’t have to. And what was the purpose for grandpa’s revalation? Just entertainment? Not hardly.

I think that the only thing that will work for our cause is to wake everyone up simultaniously. Everyone has to know for it to be stopped. It is the only hope.

Why can’t this be easier.

Suzanne @ 30

OldCoastie @ 24

More fuckery at the DOJ (via WaPoo)…

seems they’ve hung Chiquita out to dry…

so burns, is there any association i should make with you and banana’s?

… *cough* … now who’s making sexual innuendos, hmmmm ?!! *g*

Petrocelli @ 39

Suzanne @ 30

so burns, is there any association i should make with you and banana’s?

… *cough* … now who’s making sexual innuendos, hmmmm ?!! *g*

in whose end-o?

Finifinito-Good on ya, liberty on your feet, no slavery on the knees!

demi @ 36

Petro,
I’m blonde. You’d change your tune. :)
Just getting silly.

I know it … still think of those nails whenever I see Issa on TV … *g*

punaise @ 37

eCAHNomics @ 25

I’m in BofA tower (iirc), meeting with their economist. We shake hands outside his office, I go in & take seat on one side of desk-the side looking out at the view of the Golden Gate Bridge. He informs me that I’m sitting in his chair. It’s the only office I’ve ever been in where the occupant (visely) chose to arrange the furniture so that he had the great view.

about fifteen years ago my in-laws were visiting from France. they took a sight-seeing tour in a sea plane out of Sausalito. my beau-pere (f-i-l) had built his own airplane, so he connected with the pilot, who granted them a little perk: flying right by the B of A tower, probably less than 1000 ft. altitude.

those days are long gone, DHS-wise.

Speaking of bygone days, I took 1, only 1, flying lesson in my life, out of Teeterboro AP in NJ. It was about 25-30 years ago. We flew up the Hudson River at about half the height of the WTC. Glorious weather. Wadda day! Never again, ever.

still life living, i stand by my statement that rolling over and playing dead, giving up, won’t change a thing. The lake has been very proactive in trying to wake up the rest of this country.

I wish I knew the answer to the why can’t this be easier – other than to say that taking the easy way out and being defeatist is not the answer.

burnspbesq @ 13

Loo Hoo,

Since you didn’t get any of the hot fudge sundae last night, here’s a little peace offering.

If you knew how long it has been since I’ve had one of those puppies…Strange that I’ve been craving one too. Thanks! Hi everybody.

Petrocelli @ 42

demi @ 36

Petro,
I’m blonde. You’d change your tune. :)
Just getting silly.

I know it … still think of those nails whenever I see Issa on TV … *g*

Oh, this morning (before I got a call to go to work) he was something else….speaking of how bad he felt, along with those generals sitting there, he actually said he felt the same…heartburn…he said that. Of course, it was amongst a list of other sorries. I’m sure he meant to say Heartache. But, Oh!

Tex B (from ILL) @ 45

burnspbesq @ 13

Loo Hoo,

Since you didn’t get any of the hot fudge sundae last night, here’s a little peace offering.

If you knew how long it has been since I’ve had one of those puppies…Strange that I’ve been craving one too. Thanks! Hi everybody.

Hiya Betsy, how’s Chicago ? Have you done much sightseeing ?

OldCoastie @ 34

Suzanne @ 30

so burns, is there any association i should make with you and banana’s?

erm… I don’t think so Suzanne…!

well, as my favorite Marx said, “Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.”

Suzanne @ 30

OldCoastie @ 24

More fuckery at the DOJ (via WaPoo)…

seems they’ve hung Chiquita out to dry…

so burns, is there any association i should make with you and banana’s?

Bananas are good for you, and they taste good. They taste especially good when combined with vanilla ice cream, lots of brown sugar, and a little rum, and then flambed table-side.

Associations? Nuh-uh. I don’t believe in ulterior motives or hidden agendas. I am as transparent as Saran Wrap.

demi @ 46

Petrocelli @ 42

I know it … still think of those nails whenever I see Issa on TV … *g*

Oh, this morning (before I got a call to go to work) he was something else….speaking of how bad he felt, along with those generals sitting there, he actually said he felt the same…heartburn…he said that. Of course, it was amongst a list of other sorries. I’m sure he meant to say Heartache. But, Oh!

I watched Rummy and Co. for about 20 minutes and could take no more. Good that Waxman got them on record (and on TV), now let’s see who else he calls to make his case. This is far from over.

((((( Tillman family )))))

*ilbo @ 41

Finifinito-Good on ya, liberty on your feet, no slavery on the knees!

Fuckin’a right! If they want to put me in a Haliburton detention center they can try to drag me there, let’s see em try. I’m not afraid of my government, they are wrong. I want Rule of Law and Constitutional checks and balances. If they are at the point where that gets me locked up then they have already lost.

Am I right in thinking Chiquita used to be United Fruit?

burnspbesq @ 49

Suzanne @ 30

so burns, is there any association i should make with you and banana’s?

Bananas are good for you, and they taste good. They taste especially good when combined with vanilla ice cream, lots of brown sugar, and a little rum, and then flambed table-side.

Associations? Nuh-uh. I don’t believe in ulterior motives or hidden agendas. I am as transparent as Saran Wrap.

laughing – thanks for humoring what was a very lame joke gone astray. i’m gonna have to make banana vanilla wafer pudding now (am all out of rum)

still life living @ 23
Another thought. My really-truly-dark-side son (bad parenting, obviously) would mock your gloomy prognosis. Now, we must take the Dark Side seriously, under the know-thine-enemy theory. So if I could guess what he means, it would be that democracy is more robust than we give it credit for. In other words, what we are doing here is trying to defeat the forces of darkness. Hopefully he’s right, and the difference between Hitler’s Germany & Bush’s U.S. is that what we did made the difference.

Outcome not guaranteed but fight is worthwhile, n’est pas?

eCahn are you on facebook yet?

scarlet p. @ 26

I first heard that song hitchhiking across the country with a french guy a guitar when I was 18. Getting stuck on an onramp with him in Dateland Arizona was one of the random moments that changed my life entirely.

http://freewayblogger.blogspot…..izona.html

Goddam uncanny you’d post it now, ‘cuz I’m damn near ready to give up. Thanks for reminding me why I can’t.

bless you.
never surrender.

OldCoastie @ 24

More fuckery at the DOJ (via WaPoo)…

seems they’ve hung Chiquita out to dry…

Respectully disagree, OC. Any trouble Chiquita is in here is 100 percent self-inflicted. It’s not like there could have been even a scintilla of doubt that what they were doing in Colombia was criminal. They were idiots to fight this. They should have given DOJ whatever it took to get this resolved short of indictment, and been overjoyed to give it. Then they should have fired the CEO and drawn and quartered the general counsel.

persiflage @ 52

Am I right in thinking Chiquita used to be United Fruit?

Why d’ya have to spoil a perfectly good banana split?

Petrocelli @ 27

Alicia @ 20

Hi Petrocelli! How’s things in TO?

Hi Alicia … it’s Hot Hot Hot … this weekend is the Caribana festival …

Caribana festival?

Tex B (from ILL) @ 59

Petrocelli @ 27

Hi Alicia … it’s Hot Hot Hot … this weekend is the Caribana festival …

Caribana festival?

Our version of Mardi Gras … something like a million people go to the parade and the partying goes on all week …

Tillman Family – Amen!
And with that, I’m outta here.
G’nite all fire pups. All families get into it some times.
That’s just the way it is. is
Somethings’ll never change.

great song, TRex – une vieille classique. occasionally the French get it right, music-wise.

Prospero – (if you’re still about)

SE or SW depending on time of year.

Problem with *this* state is there ain’t no central location. ;-) You and tommy are sorta central unless someone lives at either far end of the state. I’m willing to travel pretty much anywhere in-state to get a chance to meet other pups. Have relatives in your vicinity.

Made a note of your contact info and will try to get thru; sometimes have problems with outgoing e-mails. Don’t do facebook. Do you have any kind of mental list of people who’ve shown up at the Lake from our neck of the woods?

punaise @ 62

great song, TRex – une vieille classique. occasionally the French get it right, music-wise.

correction:
often the French get it right

still life living @ 38

It is the only hope.

nah.

punaise @ 40

Petrocelli @ 39

… *cough* … now who’s making sexual innuendos, hmmmm ?!! *g*

in whose end-o?

((applause!))

woo-hoo! House passes SCHIP re-authorization.

eCAHNomics @ 58

persiflage @ 52

Am I right in thinking Chiquita used to be United Fruit?

Why d’ya have to spoil a perfectly good banana split?

Aww eCAHN, I’m sorry. Let’s pretend that your banana is a fair trade one, organically grown in the finest soil, lovingly tended by stunningly beautiful virginal maidens and picked and transported by fine, upstanding, independent gentlemen of the highest integrity. Feel better now?

burnspbesq @ 67

woo-hoo! House passes SCHIP re-authorization.

and mad king george has threatened to veto it if it gets past the senate and to him.

eCAHNomics @ 64

punaise @ 62

great song, TRex – une vieille classique. occasionally the French get it right, music-wise.

correction:
often the French get it right

allow me to re-phrase that:

French rock music sucks, in general.

trust me on this (as an otherwise francophile).

Night guys. Thinking about Minnesotans…

ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz

eCAHNomics @ 15:

The coldest winter I ever spent was one August in San Francisco.
-Mark Twain

Betcha global warming has made a liar out of MT.

Surprisingly enough, not. Huge icy fogbanks almost daily.

Suzanne @ 69

burnspbesq @ 67

woo-hoo! House passes SCHIP re-authorization.

and mad king george has threatened to veto it if it gets past the senate and to him.

What a guy. Standing up for the poor beleaguered coffin-nail merchants.

persiflage @ 68

eCAHNomics @ 58

Why d’ya have to spoil a perfectly good banana split?

Aww eCAHN, I’m sorry. Let’s pretend that your banana is a fair trade one, organically grown in the finest soil, lovingly tended by stunningly beautiful virginal maidens and picked and transported by fine, upstanding, independent gentlemen of the highest integrity. Feel better now?

You mean they’re not ?!! *g*

persiflage @ 68

eCAHNomics @ 58

Why d’ya have to spoil a perfectly good banana split?

Aww eCAHN, I’m sorry. Let’s pretend that your banana is a fair trade one, organically grown in the finest soil, lovingly tended by stunningly beautiful virginal maidens and picked and transported by fine, upstanding, independent gentlemen of the highest integrity. Feel better now?

One can always dream & salivate.

Seriously, my country house is in a location (85 miles from NYC) that is under extreme exurbinization pressure. Farmers hanging by a very thin thread. Would love some govt farm aid to organic, etc.

Suzanne @ 69

burnspbesq @ 67

woo-hoo! House passes SCHIP re-authorization.

Good. Make him veto it! I have trouble imagining how they’d spin failing to care for children. People get all soft and fuzzy about little kiddies, and outraged when they think the system is failing them. I hope.

and mad king george has threatened to veto it if it gets past the senate and to him.

Alicia @ 73

Suzanne @ 69

and mad king george has threatened to veto it if it gets past the senate and to him.

What a guy. Standing up for the poor beleaguered coffin-nail merchants.

standing up for the private insurance companies profits instead of sick kids.

punaise @ 70

eCAHNomics @ 64

correction:
often the French get it right

allow me to re-phrase that:

French rock music sucks, in general.

trust me on this (as an otherwise francophile).

Amen (as an otherwise afficionado of music around the world). But I always, always love the French DJ/electronic music scene. Daft Punk and Dimitri From Paris have been way way way ahead of their time for a decade.

persiflage @ 68

eCAHNomics @ 58

Why d’ya have to spoil a perfectly good banana split?

Aww eCAHN, I’m sorry. Let’s pretend that your banana is a fair trade one, organically grown in the finest soil, lovingly tended by stunningly beautiful virginal maidens and picked and transported by fine, upstanding, independent gentlemen of the highest integrity. Feel better now?

YES!

eCAHNomics @ 54

Outcome not guaranteed but fight is worthwhile, n’est pas?

That’s how I see it too. There is no honor in fighting something wrong only if you’re guaranteed the desired outcome.

We are not in charge of the results. We are in charge of doing what’s right.

Alicia @ 73

Suzanne @ 69

and mad king george has threatened to veto it if it gets past the senate and to him.

What a guy. Standing up for the poor beleaguered coffin-nail merchants.

I must interject that this stuff is really good for us. They are getting realy really extreme & real folks are catching on. I’m sorry that letting them go for it is our best strategy, but it seems that’s the case.

Suzanne @ 77

standing up for the private insurance companies profits instead of sick kids.

Holla.

Single-payer national insurance, please!

eCAHNomics @ 75

persiflage @ 68

Aww eCAHN, I’m sorry. Let’s pretend that your banana is a fair trade one, organically grown in the finest soil, lovingly tended by stunningly beautiful virginal maidens and picked and transported by fine, upstanding, independent gentlemen of the highest integrity. Feel better now?

One can always dream & salivate.

Seriously, my country house is in a location (85 miles from NYC) that is under extreme exurbinization pressure. Farmers hanging by a very thin thread. Would love some govt farm aid to organic, etc.

But think of the poor Monsanto executives, where would their next million come from?

if mad king george has his way, it is very possible that some of those injured kids on that school bus on the bridge were the kids he doesn’t want to have health care

Hey gang,

Thought I’d drop by to say hi.

hey dr hillhouse – how goes the book tour? been following your blog daily.

Suzanne @ 69

burnspbesq @ 67

woo-hoo! House passes SCHIP re-authorization.

and mad king george has threatened to veto it if it gets past the senate and to him.

Good! Make him veto it and explain why he’s hurting poor children. People get all soft and fuzzy about kids. Remember last October when we all thought the elections would be really tough and then along came Foley and changed the whole thing.

Oh! A distinguished guest!! Everyone act normal.

Suzanne @ 69

burnspbesq @ 67

woo-hoo! House passes SCHIP re-authorization.

and mad king george has threatened to veto it if it gets past the senate and to him.

in the article they “have denounced it as a step toward government-run medicine.”

the armed services use government run medicine.
congress uses government run medicine.
the executive branch and the judiciary have government run medicine.
the CIA, NSA, DIA, have government run medicine.

like corporate run medicine has worked out so well.

somebody call Michael Moore.

persiflage @ 83

eCAHNomics @ 75

One can always dream & salivate.

Seriously, my country house is in a location (85 miles from NYC) that is under extreme exurbinization pressure. Farmers hanging by a very thin thread. Would love some govt farm aid to organic, etc.

But think of the poor Monsanto executives, where would their next million come from?

So here’s my latest story. Sunday’s, 10-3, farmer’s market. Chat up a grass-fed-cattle raiser. Riden by his farm many times on my bicycle, but never noticed it ’cause it’s up a hill from the road. Glorious views. Farmer dedicated to enviornmentally correct cattle rearing. Historic house & barn. Sensitive to preserving history. All the right stuff. Problem: beef was so tough I could barely masticate it. Sadly, I don’t know where to go from here.

burns says-”Bananas are good for you, and they taste good. They taste especially good when combined with vanilla ice cream, lots of brown sugar, and a little rum, and then flambed table-side.”

bananas foster………but the best is peach melba…….my favorite.

eCAHNomics @ 25

So here’s a fun San Francisco story.

I’m afraid my San Francisco story (my first trip there, circa 1968) would require seven or eight long, long posts. :) Let’s just say it began with a guy named Dirty Dick and a black VW Beetle convertible that, while only five or six years old, looked like it had been used to carry German artillery all of WWII….

Suzanne @ 84

if mad king george has his way, it is very possible that some of those injured kids on that school bus on the bridge were the kids he doesn’t want to have health care

Wrong. You forget that W said they could go to the emergency room!

Hi everyone.
I bet my congressman wishes I’d roll over and play dead. But nooo! I have to send him columns and polling results and (wo)man on the street reports from his home district, and they aren’t too flattering to him or Congress in general.
Fight on.

Distinguished guest, moi? You guys crack me up. More like infamous…

Thanks for asking, Suz. I’ve been in a whirlwind. I’m doing national radio again tomorrow, 10 pm through midnight on the Jim Bohannon Show.

eCAHNomics @ 93

Suzanne @ 84

if mad king george has his way, it is very possible that some of those injured kids on that school bus on the bridge were the kids he doesn’t want to have health care

Wrong. You forget that W said they could go to the emergency room!

where their parents are charged a higher fee than those children who have insurance due to favorable contracts with preferred providers.

bah humbug

montag @ 92

eCAHNomics @ 25

So here’s a fun San Francisco story.

I’m afraid my San Francisco story (my first trip there, circa 1968) would require seven or eight long, long posts. :) Let’s just say it began with a guy named Dirty Dick and a black VW Beetle convertible that, while only five or six years old, looked like it had been used to carry German artillery all of WWII….

Sounds pretty interesting. How ’bout Chapter 1?

R J Hillhouse –The Spy Who Billed Me @ 95

Distinguished guest, moi? You guys crack me up. More like infamous…

Thanks for asking, Suz. I’ve been in a whirlwind. I’m doing national radio again tomorrow, 10 pm through midnight on the Jim Bohannon Show.

sweet – gotta link for our pups so they can listen in?

R J Hillhouse –The Spy Who Billed Me @ 95

Distinguished guest, moi? You guys crack me up. More like infamous…

Thanks for asking, Suz. I’ve been in a whirlwind. I’m doing national radio again tomorrow, 10 pm through midnight on the Jim Bohannon Show.

I’ve been listening to many of his programd on antiwar.com. Will you be posted there, or if not, link?

Alicia @ 73

Suzanne @ 69

and mad king george has threatened to veto it if it gets past the senate and to him.

What a guy. Standing up for the poor beleaguered coffin-nail merchants.

Even Orrin Hatch is for this, I think. Hope he can influence enough of his buds to vote to override the veto.

R J Hillhouse –The Spy Who Billed Me @ 95

Distinguished guest, moi? You guys crack me up. More like infamous…

Thanks for asking, Suz. I’ve been in a whirlwind. I’m doing national radio again tomorrow, 10 pm through midnight on the Jim Bohannon Show.

Fancy meeting you here. I host Meet the Bloggers on Sundays on BlogTalkRadio, I was thinking of tracking down a contact for you to have you on a future show. Who does your media booking?

Alicia @ 80

eCAHNomics @ 54

Outcome not guaranteed but fight is worthwhile, n’est pas?

That’s how I see it too. There is no honor in fighting something wrong only if you’re guaranteed the desired outcome.

We are not in charge of the results. We are in charge of doing what’s right.

Right ON!

no sport in it if the outcome is ordained.

smapdi @ 88

Oh! A distinguished guest!! Everyone act normal.

Don’t worry, after meeting CTuttle, she can’t have a very high opinion of the rest of us … *g*

… I wonder if my buddy’s ears are burning ? … *g*

The live program can be heard on the Westwood radio network (which includes former CBS radio network affiliates.) You can find a local station here.
Streaming audio is available from several local stations that carry the program.

Finifinito, easier to go through me than my publicists. Email me directly at rjh AT thespywhobilledme.com.

So here’s my latest story. Sunday’s, 10-3, farmer’s market. Chat up a grass-fed-cattle raiser. Riden by his farm many times on my bicycle, but never noticed it ’cause it’s up a hill from the road. Glorious views. Farmer dedicated to enviornmentally correct cattle rearing. Historic house & barn. Sensitive to preserving history. All the right stuff. Problem: beef was so tough I could barely masticate it. Sadly, I don’t know where to go from here.

That a sad story. Either give them another try on the chance that you just got a bad one, get yourself a meat tenderiser, become a vegetarian or go back to the supermarket.

R J Hillhouse –The Spy Who Billed Me @ 104

Finifinito, easier to go through me than my publicists. Email me directly at rjh AT thespywhobilledme.com.

Will do. I will send an email tomorrow to set that up, thanks!

thanks for the link, dr hillhouse. a voice to go with the fonts :)

persiflage @ 105

So here’s my latest story. Sunday’s, 10-3, farmer’s market. Chat up a grass-fed-cattle raiser. Riden by his farm many times on my bicycle, but never noticed it ’cause it’s up a hill from the road. Glorious views. Farmer dedicated to enviornmentally correct cattle rearing. Historic house & barn. Sensitive to preserving history. All the right stuff. Problem: beef was so tough I could barely masticate it. Sadly, I don’t know where to go from here.

That a sad story. Either give them another try on the chance that you just got a bad one, get yourself a meat tenderiser, become a vegetarian or go back to the supermarket.

I’m on the board of the local preservation society, so think the next step is to put the farmer on the email list.

My parting shot before calling it a night.

A duet between two sorta-halfway-decent guitar players.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh4n1bZi4d8

g’nite burns (and any other sleepy pups i might have missed)

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thanks for the link, dr hillhouse. a voice to go with the fonts :)

LOL. You can see me in action here in last week’s Democracy Now! interview, as long as you promise to keep in mind I’m in staring into a camera with bright lights, no monitor, crackling audio on an earpiece and perched on a VERY hard stool.

Evening all. Think I’ll just porpoise around in the lake for a bit and see if it soothes.

unfortunately, dr hillhouse, i’m on dialup and video takes hours to load :(

burnspbesq @ 109

My parting shot before calling it a night.

A duet between two sorta-halfway-decent guitar players.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh4n1bZi4d8

that was nice. Mayer’s got chops and Slow Hand acquits himself.

eCAHNomics @ 108

persiflage @ 105

So here’s my latest story. Sunday’s, 10-3, farmer’s market. Chat up a grass-fed-cattle raiser. Riden by his farm many times on my bicycle, but never noticed it ’cause it’s up a hill from the road. Glorious views. Farmer dedicated to enviornmentally correct cattle rearing. Historic house & barn. Sensitive to preserving history. All the right stuff. Problem: beef was so tough I could barely masticate it. Sadly, I don’t know where to go from here.

That a sad story. Either give them another try on the chance that you just got a bad one, get yourself a meat tenderiser, become a vegetarian or go back to the supermarket.

I’m on the board of the local preservation society, so think the next step is to put the farmer on the email list.

Good idea. It sure sounds like he’s preserved the property well. Being so close to New York, I suppose it’s an historic area? Being an Australian we get upset when someone tears down an old building. “It’s 100 years old” we cry. And then we go to other parts of the world. “This cathedral was built in 1234. Kinda puts our ‘history’ into perspective.

montag @ 92

eCAHNomics @ 25

So here’s a fun San Francisco story.

I’m afraid my San Francisco story (my first trip there, circa 1968) would require seven or eight long, long posts. :) Let’s just say it began with a guy named Dirty Dick and a black VW Beetle convertible that, while only five or six years old, looked like it had been used to carry German artillery all of WWII….

i haven’t been to san francisco since the seventies.
on motorcycles.
from texas.

i heard stan getz play.
he wasn’t 15 feet away.

been a long time.

je ne veux pas travailler

R J Hillhouse –The Spy Who Billed Me @ 85

Hey gang,

Thought I’d drop by to say hi.

Hi Dr. Hillhouse,

Do you have any insight into these mysterious anonymous comments at TPMmuckraker by someone who appears to be an insider? Details are discussed in these Dkos diaries:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/8/1/42635/43285

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/8/1/101840/7097

Lived in the SF Bay Area since 1964 or 65 – in SF (8th Ave/Cabrillo a block and a half from the entrance to GG Park) from 73 – 77 and then out to the suburbs of southern Alameda County. Regained my senses and moved to the Santa Cruz Mts 4 years ago.

Suzanne @ 119

Lived in the SF Bay Area since 1964 or 65 – in SF (8th Ave/Cabrillo a block and a half from the entrance to GG Park) from 73 – 77 and then out to the suburbs of southern Alameda County. Regained my senses and moved to the Santa Cruz Mts 4 years ago.

SF stints:
Cole Valley ‘84-85
Bernal Heights ‘90-92

Never been to San Francisco but I’d love to. A friend from SF who came here for a few days for work last year. We took her for a drive around the area and she said it reminds her of SF so, if I’m feeling left out, I just squint a bit and pretend.

Suzanne @ 119

Lived in the SF Bay Area since 1964 or 65 – in SF (8th Ave/Cabrillo a block and a half from the entrance to GG Park) from 73 – 77 and then out to the suburbs of southern Alameda County. Regained my senses and moved to the Santa Cruz Mts 4 years ago.

i’m a dfh and it sounds (a lot) like you are.
too?

eCAHNomics @ 97

Sounds pretty interesting. How ’bout Chapter 1?

Toward the end of December, 1967, I was at Ft. Benjamin Harrison, in Indianapolis, leaving advanced training. Now, Indianapolis, at that time, was not the hippest place around (there was one coffeehouse and the upstairs doubled as a whorehouse, and acts were mostly stuck in 1954, wearing all black and singing ancient folk songs lugubriously enough to put everyone to sleep).

Anyway (there are lots of anyways in this–and parenthetical remarks), six or seven of us got orders for Hawaii, which, since it was the last of December, 0 deg. out and the wind blowing about 30 mph, which prompted death threats–especially from those being transferred to South Korea. Until the drill instructor said, “those going to Hawaii, don’t smirk–six months from now, you’ll be in Vietnam.” The especially tall guy from Guam (about 6′8″ or 9″) next me said, “okay, I won’t kill you.”

So, there were impromptu plans to spend three weeks in SF, where one of this bunch knew someone, so we’d have a place to stay. Dirty Dick arrived at the airport to pick us up in said VW convertible. First words out of his mouth were, “let’s get a beer.”

Barhopping in SF at the time was really interesting–everyone was at home smoking dope, so the neighborhood bars were feeling the pinch, and they all had different spreads out to entice people in to buy drinks. Didn’t work–they were all mostly empty. And at every bar, Dirty Dick would ask how his credit was. The first bar had barbecued chicken, and the bartender just laughed when Dick asked about credit. The second bar had sandwich fixings on a plate at the end of the bar, and the bartender told Dick he’d have to pay up on the last tab first. At the third bar, there were Chinese appetizers, and when Dick asked about credit, the bartender just opened the cash register, lifted the drawer and stuck his hand in and came out with a fistful of Dick’s returned checks.

Beginning to get “Dirty” Dick? I think Dick owed money to every last soul in San Francisco. We being recently-minted PFCs (at that time, that meant $123.10 a month, before taxes), were short on cash, so it was an early night. Dick drives back us to his first-floor apartment in an old Victorian near Nob Hill. The living room is very small, perhaps 12′ x 12′. Most of it is occupied by a very large hole in the center of the floor, where Dick had ripped up the flooring, cut away the floor joists and dug a hole about six feet deep, and had thrown a couple of planks cross-wise across the hole so he could reach the sofa or the chair. What’s this, Dick? “Trading rent to fix a water leak.” Oh? When’d you start on this? “`Bout eight or nine months ago.” Reached the pipe yet? “Nah, got another five or six feet to go. Shouldn’t take much more than another six months to get to it. If ya get up at night to pee, don’t fall in the hole. You’ll bust yer ass fer sure. Hurts like a bastard.”

I never lived in San Francisco, but lived near Middletown in Lake County from late June 1968 through early February 1969. We’d go to “the City” every three weeks or so, more often to Mill Valley or Santa Rosa. I loved the countryside where we were, but never got to know San Francisco enough to know what I was doing. Last time I visited was 31 years ago, during a rare snowstorm in March, 1976.

to be accurate, the last year was spent up in diamond heights, behind tower market and below the mt davidson cross (

montag @ 123

Toward the end of December, 1967, I was at Ft. Benjamin Harrison, in Indianapolis, leaving advanced training. Now, Indianapolis, at that time, was not the hippest place around

Believe me, it hasn’t changed much since December ‘67.

Suzanne @ 125

to be accurate, the last year was spent up in diamond heights, behind tower market and below the mt davidson cross (

the headwaters of Market St.

BTW, Big Mitch helped me defend Diane Benson on KUDO Radio’s talk show in Anchorage today which had portrayed her inaccurately earlier in the week. He was remarkable, kicking some serious butt.

OK, I must away. Mr Persi has just arrived back after a 2 week business trip so I’ll go and do some pampering (NOT the Vitter kind) and look interested when he tells me about the technical stuff he’s been doing.

Good night Suzanne, eCHAN, YDJim, sleep well O Mighty Pups!

excellent, et

g’nite mrs persi – enjoy the pampering of the non-vitter variety

finifinito @ 126

montag @ 123

Toward the end of December, 1967, I was at Ft. Benjamin Harrison, in Indianapolis, leaving advanced training. Now, Indianapolis, at that time, was not the hippest place around

Believe me, it hasn’t changed much since December ‘67.

i visitied my brother when he was living in Indianapolis in 1995.
only time.
dad was born in New Castle in 1918.

Ed*ard Teller @ 128

BTW, Big Mitch helped me defend Diane Benson on KUDO Radio’s talk show in Anchorage today which had portrayed her inaccurately earlier in the week. He was remarkable, kicking some serious butt.

having heard your previous comments, i am grateful for this follow up.
thanks.

i just finished a very tasty grilled cheese sammich. The effects of today have me eating comfort food.

persiflage @ 129

OK, I must away. Mr Persi has just arrived back after a 2 week business trip so I’ll go and do some pampering (NOT the Vitter kind) and look interested when he tells me about the technical stuff he’s been doing.

Good night Suzanne, eCHAN, YDJim, sleep well O Mighty Pups!

sweet dreams.
best to your mr.

yellowdog jim @ 131

i visitied my brother when he was living in Indianapolis in 1995.
only time.
dad was born in New Castle in 1918.

When I was there, if I recall, it was the last major city in the country with a black majority and an all-white city council and mayor. The national Grand Dragon of the KKK lived there. Drove around in a white Cadillac with the Klan emblem on the door. Such were the times, then and there.

montag @ 123

eCAHNomics @ 97

Sounds pretty interesting. How ’bout Chapter 1?

Toward the end of December, 1967, I was at Ft. Benjamin Harrison, in Indianapolis, leaving advanced training.
… [snip]
… Hurts like a bastard.”

that was great!

yellowdog jim @ 131

i visitied my brother when he was living in Indianapolis in 1995.
only time.
dad was born in New Castle in 1918.

I give my hometown a lot of shit but truth be told its vastly improved in the last 10 years. 1995 was kind of a watershed year for the city. Thats the year the downtown revitalization kinda took off for real.

Having said that, we have in Indy two cities. We have this vibrant, progressive, beautiful downtown donut hole, then outside of the inner loop of highways around the edges of downtown is a rotted donut out to the outer loop of I-465. Maggots and flies and bacteria ooze in the rotted donut that the city leaders (long established and corrupted Dems sad to say) don’t care about. Then outside the rotted donut is a shiny mirror of downtown that gives visitors this illusion that we have a good thing going here.

yellowdog jim @ 132

having heard your previous comments, i am grateful for this follow up.
thanks.

Mitch talked circles around the hostess of the program, then painted her into a corner, then let her nicely off the hook. We all know each other.

yellowdog jim @ 132

Ed*ard Teller @ 128

BTW, Big Mitch helped me defend Diane Benson on KUDO Radio’s talk show in Anchorage today which had portrayed her inaccurately earlier in the week. He was remarkable, kicking some serious butt.

having heard your previous comments, i am grateful for this follow up.
thanks.

What the hell did he say previously?

hey mitch

Hi pups. How are you Suz?

not bad – been worse – been better. how did the fucking yankees do today?

montag @ 135

yellowdog jim @ 131

i visitied my brother when he was living in Indianapolis in 1995.
only time.
dad was born in New Castle in 1918.

When I was there, if I recall, it was the last major city in the country with a black majority and an all-white city council and mayor. The national Grand Dragon of the KKK lived there. Drove around in a white Cadillac with the Klan emblem on the door. Such were the times, then and there.

like, wow. (!)

then when dad was stationed at Maxwell afb,
we lived in montgomery in 1954.
i was 4 and mom said to stay away from the bus stops.
four years old and i could go any where else, except the bus stop.
something about a boycott.
rosa parks.
rev. martin luther king, jr.

Only a few homeruns, but they won. Still they couldn’t move up in the standings because the Redsox won today, also. A-Rod is still stuck on 499 lifetime home runs. BTW, Barry Bonds didn’t get a home run either. He needs one to tie for the all-time record with Hank Aaron.

BigMitch @ 139

yellowdog jim @ 132

having heard your previous comments, i am grateful for this follow up.
thanks.

What the hell did he say previously?

He’s talking about the comments from latelate night yesterday I alerted you to this morning.

finifinito @ 137

yellowdog jim @ 131

i visitied my brother when he was living in Indianapolis in 1995.
only time.
dad was born in New Castle in 1918.

I give my hometown a lot of shit but truth be told its vastly improved in the last 10 years. 1995 was kind of a watershed year for the city. Thats the year the downtown revitalization kinda took off for real.

Having said that, we have in Indy two cities. We have this vibrant, progressive, beautiful downtown donut hole, then outside of the inner loop of highways around the edges of downtown is a rotted donut out to the outer loop of I-465. Maggots and flies and bacteria ooze in the rotted donut that the city leaders (long established and corrupted Dems sad to say) don’t care about. Then outside the rotted donut is a shiny mirror of downtown that gives visitors this illusion that we have a good thing going here.

that’s funny.
and sad.
you write funny.

BigMitch @ 139

yellowdog jim @ 132

having heard your previous comments, i am grateful for this follow up.
thanks.

What the hell did he say previously?

diane benson needed support.

Ed*ard Teller @ 145

BigMitch @ 139

What the hell did he say previously?

He’s talking about the comments from latelate night yesterday I alerted you to this morning.

oh. :-) it sounded like, hey, ET do you still think B.M. is a dick? Like you said previously? J/K

BigMitch @ 144

Only a few homeruns, but they won. Still they couldn’t move up in the standings because the Redsox won today, also. A-Rod is still stuck on 499 lifetime home runs. BTW, Barry Bonds didn’t get a home run either. He needs one to tie for the all-time record with Hank Aaron.

We turned down Mariners tickets for the first game against LA – which the Mariners won – to be with a friend in Carnation who was going back to work for two weeks the next day. I haven’t checked to see how today went.

yellowdog jim @ 146

that’s funny.
and sad.
you write funny.

I try to cut the despair with humor to make it easier to deal with. Life in Indy 2007 is a harrowing experience that only my hero Hunter Thompson could possibly describe. I aim for somewhere in the middle of Mark Twain and Thompson and hope it all comes out coherent and at least in English.

BigMitch @ 148

it sounded like, hey, ET do you still think B.M. is a dick? Like you said previously? J/K

You shoulda heard me get into it with my youngest brother this evening. Kid can be a total, oh, never mind…

tempers got raw around the lake too.

finifinito @ 150

yellowdog jim @ 146

that’s funny.
and sad.
you write funny.

I try to cut the despair with humor to make it easier to deal with. Life in Indy 2007 is a harrowing experience that only my hero Hunter Thompson could possibly describe. I aim for somewhere in the middle of Mark Twain and Thompson and hope it all comes out coherent and at least in English.

loved our hunter s.

so, no more F1 at your motor speedway there now, eh?

I do the same thing fini – only I’ve always called it cop humor – used to take the edge of the horrors and/or to try to make a bad thing not so bad on the inside.

BigMitch @ 152

tempers got raw around the lake too.

yeah – i’ll probably come back and read comments in the morning complaining about how i stiffle free speech and spend too much time and energy into being a peacemaker.

I actually used the edit function to pull back a comment I made today. It was an attempt at humor. Between the time I posted it and the time it appeared, someone mentioned that he or she would have been on the bridge, if hadn’t taken a different route home that day.

What I posted, and then decided was too soon, was a fake Bush comment that it was something that happened to Democrats, with a link to wikipedia/chappaquidick.

yellowdog jim @ 153

loved our hunter s.

so, no more F1 at your motor speedway there now, eh?

Yeah, and frankly, good riddance. The economic impact is being replaced by the new event we are starting next year, MotoGP. Its the motorcycle grand prix race, and will have a bigger economic impact than F1 did if you ask me. People forget the original race at the Speedway was a 1909 motorcycle race.

finifinito @ 150

yellowdog jim @ 146

that’s funny.
and sad.
you write funny.

I try to cut the despair with humor to make it easier to deal with. Life in Indy 2007 is a harrowing experience that only my hero Hunter Thompson could possibly describe. I aim for somewhere in the middle of Mark Twain and Thompson and hope it all comes out coherent and at least in English.

i should say/write,
you write well.
And funny.
and we are driven to it.
Teh Funny.
out of a gentle desperation.
Give us Le Levity.

we could live in Baltimore.
john waters does.
or Cleveland?
rock and roll hall of fame?

finifinito @ 157

yellowdog jim @ 153

loved our hunter s.

so, no more F1 at your motor speedway there now, eh?

Yeah, and frankly, good riddance. The economic impact is being replaced by the new event we are starting next year, MotoGP. Its the motorcycle grand prix race, and will have a bigger economic impact than F1 did if you ask me. People forget the original race at the Speedway was a 1909 motorcycle race.

I LOVE MotoGP!

MotoGP has been in Monterey (was just here weekend before last iirc) and folks here are worried the Indy MotoGP is gonna take away tourists from coming here.

Suzanne, do you live in MOnterey?

yellowdog jim @ 159

I LOVE MotoGP!

Check it out, they just had the Allstate 400 on Sunday, today they started construction on the new road course for the MotoGP.

Mitch, in the Santa Cruz mountains on the north side of Monterey Bay – 13 miles up Highway 9 from the City of Santa Cruz – small town called Boulder Creek – home of Big Basin State Park.

BigMitch @ 152

tempers got raw around the lake too.

i was reading every one complaining about testy-ness and OM got into it with, maybe demi?
But other than that i didn’t notice anything and i got to thinking maybe i was pissing people off and i, like, don’t know it?

i was chill on nader.

Suzanne @ 160

MotoGP has been in Monterey (was just here weekend before last iirc) and folks here are worried the Indy MotoGP is gonna take away tourists from coming here.

They shouldnt be, ours is in September and will draw folks in from the Midwest and Eastern half of the country. Its actually quite a good strategy, a west coast and midwest pair of races.

BigMitch @ 152

tempers got raw around the lake too.

Both my sister and my wife’s sister married Jewish guys from Brooklyn. They grew up about two miles from each other. Both got PhDs in economics, and first met at my wife’s mom’s funeral back in 1992. We’ve been spending a lot of time with my sister and her husband. In the morning we go up to Anacortes to spend time with my wife’s sister and her husband. These two brothers-in-law are from opposite sides of the emotional universe, Mitch.

Last year, we spent three days with the latter couple there during the Hizbolah War. He wouldn’t even let me talk about it, saying I wasn’t qualified to say anything authoritative because I don’t “love Israel.” I’ve promised my wife not to mention the Middle East, let alone Israel or that dreaded word set, “The Palestinian people.” Other than that particular set of issues, he’s extremely liberal. Should be interesting.

fini, i agree with you but so many folks do come in from out of state for monterey motogp. monterey has built itself on a tourist economy as a supplement to the ag economy.

Well, ever since they invented toilet paper I have had no use for Nader, so, when whomever came here to sing his praises, and people unloaded on him or her, I was right there in spirit. But it wasn’t the way people at the Lake conduct themselves usually. And then, T I L L M A N hearings didn’t do anything to improve anyone’s mood, either.

Suzanne @ 160

MotoGP has been in Monterey (was just here weekend before last iirc) and folks here are worried the Indy MotoGP is gonna take away tourists from coming here.

Laguna Seca?
It is a one-of-a-kind track.
i would think it would afford offers of package deals.
i know so little of the marketing involved, but would bet two races in NA helps keep your race there.
or so i would hope.

Suzanne @ 167

fini, i agree with you but so many folks do come in from out of state for monterey motogp. monterey has built itself on a tourist economy as a supplement to the ag economy.

The Canadian Grand Prix folks were worried about the same problem with a United States Grand Prix at Indy. It turns out they had a boost in ticket sales every year the USGP ran here with visitors coming from the US who had been introduced to the sport at Indy. Bsides, MotoGP fans are true fanatics. A second opportunity to go to a race in the US is just gravy to the kind of folks already coming to Monterey. They will end up going to both races.

yellowdog jim @ 169

Suzanne @ 160

MotoGP has been in Monterey (was just here weekend before last iirc) and folks here are worried the Indy MotoGP is gonna take away tourists from coming here.

Laguna Seca?
It is a one-of-a-kind track.
i would think it would afford offers of package deals.
i know so little of the marketing involved, but would bet two races in NA helps keep your race there.
or so i would hope.

yeup – motogp at laguna seca and the start of the salinas rodeo on the same weekend. lots of folks coming into the region that weekend. i’ve heard there are package deals via local newscasts about both events.

Ed*ard Teller @ 166

BigMitch @ 152

tempers got raw around the lake too.

Both my sister and my wife’s sister married Jewish guys from Brooklyn. They grew up about two miles from each other. Both got PhDs in economics, and first met at my wife’s mom’s funeral back in 1992. We’ve been spending a lot of time with my sister and her husband. In the morning we go up to Anacortes to spend time with my wife’s sister and her husband. These two brothers-in-law are from opposite sides of the emotional universe, Mitch.

Last year, we spent three days with the latter couple there during the Hizbolah War. He wouldn’t even let me talk about it, saying I wasn’t qualified to say anything authoritative because I don’t “love Israel.” I’ve promised my wife not to mention the Middle East, let alone Israel or that dreaded word set, “The Palestinian people.” Other than that particular set of issues, he’s extremely liberal. Should be interesting.

So, I am definitely not in the mood to start a discussion on this, but the news this a.m. suggested that there may be progress on the peace fron in Israel/Palestine.

BigMitch @ 172

So, I am definitely not in the mood to start a discussion on this, but the news this a.m. suggested that there may be progress on the peace fron in Israel/Palestine.

Do you have a link?

I must crash everyone. Gnite!

g’nite fini….

BigMitch @ 168

… have had no use for Nader…

Other than helping pass more legislation beneficial to the common man than anyone since Abraham Lincoln, he’s pretty much a total jerk. I hear he’s a cheap tipper too.

Just heard on the radio that Olmert in discussions with the P.A.
Could just be an effort to trianglate Hamas out.
But prayers for peace …

yellowdog jim @ 136

that was great!

Maybe part two when the clock comes around again. Gotta get a nap in–my free-living schedule is at odds with jury duty in the morning….

Ed*ard Teller @ 176

BigMitch @ 168

… have had no use for Nader…

Other than helping pass more legislation beneficial to the common man than anyone since Abraham Lincoln, he’s pretty much a total jerk. I hear he’s a cheap tipper too.

That was then, this is now. Now as in, the president of the United States is George fuckin’ W. Bush. Funny thing, me an Ralph thought he might win Florida, too.

g’nite montag – gotta have a clear head for your jury duty. looking forward to part 2

Re my #166 – just discussing family life, big guy…

OTOH – The Seattle Mariners beat the Los Angeles Angels 8-7 in 12 innings. Yuniesky Betancourt had the game-winning RBI.

BigMitch @ 168

Well, ever since they invented toilet paper I have had no use for Nader, so, when whomever came here to sing his praises, and people unloaded on him or her, I was right there in spirit. But it wasn’t the way people at the Lake conduct themselves usually. And then,
T I L L M A N hearings
didn’t do anything to improve anyone’s mood, either.

i agree about the impact of the Tillman hearings.
i had forgotten the hearings.
folks took them hard.

we wanted more aggressive questioning about
WHY these miscreants indulged in this coverup of this murder.

meanwhile, i think we won points in hearings, even if we weren’t landing our best shots:
these guys offered
no excuse,
no reasonable explanation and
took no responsibility.
(and that’s how i heard MSM report it.)
a lot of america has gotten familiar with that tune.
they know who sings it.
and they don’t like it.
anymore.

finifinito @ 170

Suzanne @ 167

fini, i agree with you but so many folks do come in from out of state for monterey motogp. monterey has built itself on a tourist economy as a supplement to the ag economy.

The Canadian Grand Prix folks were worried about the same problem with a United States Grand Prix at Indy. It turns out they had a boost in ticket sales every year the USGP ran here with visitors coming from the US who had been introduced to the sport at Indy. Bsides, MotoGP fans are true fanatics. A second opportunity to go to a race in the US is just gravy to the kind of folks already coming to Monterey. They will end up going to both races.

yeah, that’s what i was trying to say.

This may sound cold, but part of watching the tragedy in Minna. was that I knew it knocked Keith Olbermann off his story line, which was sure to be TILLMAN, as per his teasers.

BigMitch @ 179

That was then, this is now. Now as in, the president of the United States is George fuckin’ W. Bush. Funny thing, me an Ralph thought he might win Florida, too.

60,000 African American voters in Florida in 2000 either were not allowed to vote or didn’t have their votes counted. In the period between the 2000 election and the decision on Gore vs Bush, the Dem strategy was consciously to avoid mentioning that issue. The Democrats have yet to do anything about reinstating the disenfranchised African American Florida voters, after being in power for over six months.

BigMitch @ 177

Just heard on the radio that Olmert in discussions with the P.A.
Could just be an effort to trianglate Hamas out.
But prayers for peace …

Here’s a link to a Jerusalem Post article: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/S…..e/ShowFull

ET — if your point is that this is a dispicable lack of courage and outrage from the Democrats, and you want an argument, don’t look to me. I am with you 100%.

finifinito @ 162

yellowdog jim @ 159

I LOVE MotoGP!

Check it out, they just had the Allstate 400 on Sunday, today they started construction on the new road course for the MotoGP.

Thanks!

weird thing:
my dad’s dad worked as a police officer in Indianapolis.
he was a motorcycle cop.
off duty he crashed, was hospitalized and he died from subsequent infections.

my dad was ten years old.

ok, that’s about it for me tonight – gotta get the place spotless for a showing tomorrow afternoon (please cross those fingers and toes folks). see ya’ll tomorrow night – same bat time same bat channel

BigMitch @ 184

This may sound cold, but part of watching the tragedy in Minna. was that I knew it knocked Keith Olbermann off his story line, which was sure to be TILLMAN, as per his teasers.

saw the promos.
felt the same way.

G’nite Suz. My sister lives in Monterey, so next time I visit, I’ll look you up.

Suzanne @ 163

Mitch, in the Santa Cruz mountains on the north side of Monterey Bay – 13 miles up Highway 9 from the City of Santa Cruz – small town called Boulder Creek – home of Big Basin State Park.

i know a doctor Mahalik in boulder creek.

BigMitch @ 184

This may sound cold, but part of watching the tragedy in Minna. was that I knew it knocked Keith Olbermann off his story line, which was sure to be TILLMAN, as per his teasers.

Whatever. Driving on the Alaskan Way Viaduct in Seattle twice today, you could tell other motorists were thinking about the I-35 collapse, some people speeding through the southbound underneath lanes tonight at about 80 mph or more. Seattle TV showed videos of famous Washington bridge collapses, including the Tacoma Narrows bridge, and the Hood Canal Bridge, this evening.

g’nite. Comfort and sleep of the just to all the pups.

better hurry up mitch, cause i really need for this place to sell. otherwise, you will have to make a stop at a yet to be determined location along the oregon coast or southern wa state.

Suzanne @ 195

better hurry up mitch, cause i really need for this place to sell. otherwise, you will have to make a stop at a yet to be determined location along the oregon coast or southern wa state.

Where are you moving to?

BigMitch @ 187

ET — if your point is that this is a dispicable lack of courage and outrage from the Democrats, and you want an argument, don’t look to me. I am with you 100%.

I just get tired of hearing or seeing people blame Nader for George Bush. I voted for him in Alaska, but would have voted for Gore had I lived in a state where Gore had a chance.

yellowdog jim @ 192

Suzanne @ 163

Mitch, in the Santa Cruz mountains on the north side of Monterey Bay – 13 miles up Highway 9 from the City of Santa Cruz – small town called Boulder Creek – home of Big Basin State Park.

I think he is a GP still practicing in town.

i know a doctor Mahalik in boulder creek.

Suzanne @ 195

better hurry up mitch, cause i really need for this place to sell. otherwise, you will have to make a stop at a yet to be determined location along the oregon coast or southern wa state.

I’m going to be in Manzanita next Thursday and Friday!

not sure, mitch, either between newport and nehalem bay on the oregon coast (think tillamook area) or maybe southern washington – i’ll know it when i find it.

g’nite sunny

i’m poofing for real this time, folks. g’nite

Suzanne @ 198

yellowdog jim @ 192

I think he is a GP still practicing in town.

i know a doctor Mahalik in boulder creek.

one of my best friend’s brother.

good luck selling suzanne

i am beaming up now.
see ya in the funny papers.

Thank you for publishing the lyrics. People who enjoy this song will like most, if not all, of Maxime le Forestier’s work. This song is quite representative.

Good morning from Chicago pups!

FDL breakfast: Friday morning 7-9 central time at the McCormack Hyatt next to the convention center. Please wear your badge.

Good morning, pups. The NYT today has Collins and Kristof. Gail Collins has read the Vanity Fair piece about Judi Giuliani and Nicholas Kristof says he’s ripping us off by not growing crops in a forest in Oregon.

http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/

Coffee and tea are ready, and the biscuits are out of the oven. I hope everyone who made it to Chicago has a wonderful time, and that all the rest of us have a great day.

egregious – you’re the best, except of course for Marion.

Good morning Everybody, I’m trying to attend YKOS via ustream dot tv

Marion in Savannah @ 207

Good morning, pups. The NYT today has Collins and Kristof. Gail Collins has read the Vanity Fair piece about Judi Giuliani and Nicholas Kristof says he’s ripping us off by not growing crops in a forest in Oregon.

http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/

Coffee and tea are ready, and the biscuits are out of the oven. I hope everyone who made it to Chicago has a wonderful time, and that all the rest of us have a great day.

Marion, can we have YKos at your house next year?

oops…what I meant to say was:
Can we have YKos at your house next year?

can’t say this is a surprise:

Bush invokes executive privilege for Rove in attorney firings

Ratcheting up the stakes in a legal battle with Congress, President Bush on Wednesday ordered White House adviser Karl Rove and a senior political aide to refuse on grounds of executive privilege to testify before the Senate on the firings of nine U.S. attorneys.

In a letter to Senate Judiciary Committee leaders, White House counsel Fred Fielding declared that Rove, “as an immediate presidential advisor, is immune from compelled congressional testimony” about matters involving his service to the president.

While deputy White House political affairs director Scott Jennings is expected to appear before the committee Thursday, Fielding said that he, too, has been directed “not to produce any documents or to provide any testimony” covered by the privilege claim.

The decision throws a huge roadblock in the way of a seven-month-old congressional investigation and moves the confrontation between Congress and the White House closer to a constitutional showdown in the courts.

Here’s what I’m working on to attend: ustream.

I’m with solai, Marion’s house sounds great.

still life living @ 23

It has all come down to this. This is it, the end of the world. They couldn’t be stopped. The are electronically taking over voting, right under our very noses. And we are not stopping it. So they will win everytime. Over the whole world. that is what these guys are playing for. A global coup. And we happily pay there way to enslave us. Now all we have to do is wait and watch. Go to work. Consume. Get a bigscreen tv, because what else is left for us.

They are taking over the surpreme court. The justice department. The military. Congress just doesn’t want to say anything. Because it is too big for them. Cheney is Darth Vader…literally. The royalists have won. Biology is dead. Wealth power and piracy on the high seas of space. They have total information awareness. They know every little thing you do. When our generations die, biology will be phased out. Except for those who are necessary.

It is exactly like it seemed. Take every thing at face value. When you do that, you are obliged to give up hope, hang up the towel. The raise oil to $85 a barrel because they can. It is the saudi elites, the american elites, the european, and they will all reconviene in Dubai. Waiting for the end of the rapture. Because it won’t really matter — whether god exists or not — they have put an exhaust hose to the tailpipe in the proverial garage. We are being Zycloned out of existence, while the winners await their badges of honor and a seat at the right hand of god. But it doesn’t matter if god exists or not. Because god does not live in the machine world. God is the god of biology. And biology is dead. It is checkmated in 4. So god is dead. It won’t be printed in the New York Times like Elton John’s Levon said, rather it will be printed in the Wall Street Journal. That is where the business leaders will get their instructions. The satalites all over the world are controlled by the same group. Information awareness and information control. The chinese are in control of the legions of producers. Bush has the weapons. The strain between Bush and Puhtin is all staged. The just installed Scarcozi in France and the new guy in england. Oh, it was elections. No it wasn’t – they control the electronic ballot boxes. And Blair made it seamless so that it could carry on a while longer.

Yes we are pissed. But what can you do about it. Then we die.

The beautiful part of everything being such a mess is that no matter what you pick to do to help,WE NEED IT ALL. So if activism is your thing,act. If being an organic farmer is your thing,farm. If mentoring a child or a lonely person is your thing,mentor. Plant trees,make someone hungry a meal,give clothes to the clothes-less,a home to the homeless,some cheer to the cheerless. We need it,all of it,every single act. But don’t tell me I oughta roll over and die because evil,stupid,rich people run the world. They may,but they don’t run ME.

Sydney Blumenthal sums up Rove, Cheney and Gonzales: The Three Stooges.

Apropos of nothing…

But anyone do a count of the number of “I don’t knows” and “It’s not my responsibilities” at the Tillman hearing today?
I used to recall that the Pugs had websites citing the number of “I don’t recalls” used by Clinton officials under oath. ASIRC hey usually pointed out that they were in the low 100’s.

The Tillman hearing likely surpassed that number on it’s own!

Whatever happened to the days when Lincoln wrote a personal letter to the mother of three sons who fell in battle during the civil war…or when FDR ordered the Army to pull out Pvt. Ryan from the front lines.

Bush doesn’t even bother to show up at ANY of the funerals of those who die in his ill-conceived and disasterously administered wars…and no one in the chain of commqand appears to care.

That is apparently what we are SUPPOSED to believe? Or, perhaps, like that slime-mold masquerading as a human being Rep. Darrell Issa, we are supposed to simply say “Hey! They are volunteers! Why get all bent out of shape about a possible murder! It’s not like they were DRAFTEES…they could have not-enlisted, or like most rich kids like me evaded the draft.”

The fact that these Generals and Rumsfeld evaded all knowledge of the events surrounding Tillman’s death flies in the face of Rummy’s “snowflake” in which he insisted that “we keep an eye out about Tillman”.

Not that anyone would think that the emails of Tillman might have been examined…or that the name “Chomsky” might have tripped an NSA filter (or perhaps all of Chmsky’s email is surveilled).

Any relationship to Tillman’s emails and that “snowflake” from Rummy?

And any chance that all those documents claimed under Executive Privilege will show just how unlikely it is that these Generals and Rummy are full of bulldada when it comes to their slippery memories.

Mornin’ all!

I keep thinking about the two Cheney videos (scroll down) at TPM .

Cheney is so practiced in the arts of not telling the truth, he’s mythic. He seems to have come from the bowels of Mendacity.

There was one thing mentioned yesterday at the Tillman hearing that I did not know. I guess it’s what you’re referring to above. There’s a Rumsfeld email that says “We better keep an eye on Tillman”??????? I didn’t see the hearing yet, picked that up in the blogging. Did that get explained at all? Sounds ominous.

Kos people:

The Plame panel is this morning at 9:30 central. There was earlier talk of it being one of the afternoons.

This is it: today. Speakers include Christy, Marcy, and Jeralyn.

By the way Scarecrow and I were in the elevator and who walks in? Jeralyn. Talk about your synchronicities.

Mornin’ pups. Waking to the news reported by MSNBC that the feds said the Minneapolis bridge was “structurally deficient” in 2005.

punaise @ 70

eCAHNomics @ 64

correction:
often the French get it right

allow me to re-phrase that:

French rock music sucks, in general.

trust me on this (as an otherwise francophile).

You might try some of the pop-punk oriented bands mentioned here, like the Remembers.

http://artforspastics.blogspot…..-kdvs.html

There’s also a lot of gypsy-rock groups that kick tail…like Les Yeux Noirs.

wow, just saw the security cam footage of the bridge collapse on Morning Schmo – scary stuff

cinnamonape,

I don’t know what to do with my response to yesterday’s hearing. I’m not even furious; I am so deeply angry it goes beyond flames, it goes beyond glowing coals.

Our country is ill, mentally ill, the disease that keeps on giving. Our leaders have laced the waters with brain-injurious, soul-sapping medications which Americans uncap and blithely drink on the way to work, after exercising, mixed with whiskey on the rocks.

If you know any mentally ill people, as I do, you will know how brilliant is their psychotic world, while their real world is crumbling.

Techies, what does this mean? When I went to read “the 3 stooges” the word ‘cookies’ appeared for a few seconds. Does that mean someone’s watching who goes there?

finifinito @ 78

punaise @ 70

allow me to re-phrase that:

French rock music sucks, in general.

trust me on this (as an otherwise francophile).

Amen (as an otherwise afficionado of music around the world). But I always, always love the French DJ/electronic music scene. Daft Punk and Dimitri From Paris have been way way way ahead of their time for a decade.

Descendents of GONG! and Planet Gong! I’m sure.
I was in Paris in the mid 1980’s and found it a wasteland except for bad heavy metal cover bands. I simply couldn’t locate good punk or alternative scenes. They existed, but were DEEP underground.

In fact, the most interesting French language stuff seemed to be coming out of Belgium…Plastique Bertrand (”Ça Plane Pour Moi” = “This Life’s for Me”), and the Honeymoon Killers.

Boston1775 @ 223

I don’t know what to do with my response to yesterday’s hearing. I’m not even furious; I am so deeply angry it goes beyond flames, it goes beyond glowing coals.

me too.

and it wasn’t just yesterday’s hearing. it was that hearing on top of 6 months of many crappy “oversight” hearings, bad legislation, continued occupation and no constraints on bush/cheney lawlessness.

usually what helps me cope is to try to take some constructive action. i am desperately hoping for some blogosheric movement to hold the dems accountable. as it is, i call the offices without effect and get more frustrated.

solai @ 218

There was one thing mentioned yesterday at the Tillman hearing that I did not know. I guess it’s what you’re referring to above. There’s a Rumsfeld email that says “We better keep an eye on Tillman”??????? I didn’t see the hearing yet, picked that up in the blogging. Did that get explained at all? Sounds ominous.

Indeed…Rummy sent a “snowflake” (code for a memorandum) that said something like “Keep an eye on Tillman”. When asked about what this meant Rummy insolently stated stated “It means what it means.”

Well, it means TO ME, that they felt concerned about Tillman…and not in a way that involved keeping his tail out of potentially dangerous situations…which they CERTAINLY DID NOT!

They were concerned about something else about Tillman. And Rummy took a personal interest in this. That’s why I’m wondering if something in Tillman’s emails or letters to home about Chomsky might have sparked this “unusual interest” in Tillman from a man who was simply “too busy” to care about the personal events related to one enlistee…an enlistee who’s death was significant enough for Rummy’s chief aide to bring to the attention of the President.

MSNBC – number of confirmed fatalities in bridge collapse lowered to 4.

Boston1775 @ 212

Here’s what I’m working on to attend: ustream.

will ustream be covering the plame panel? finger’s crossed.

cinnamonape @ 227

solai @ 218

There was one thing mentioned yesterday at the Tillman hearing that I did not know. I guess it’s what you’re referring to above. There’s a Rumsfeld email that says “We better keep an eye on Tillman”??????? I didn’t see the hearing yet, picked that up in the blogging. Did that get explained at all? Sounds ominous.

Indeed…Rummy sent a “snowflake” (code for a memorandum) that said something like “Keep an eye on Tillman”. When asked about what this meant Rummy insolently stated stated “It means what it means.”

Well, it means TO ME, that they felt concerned about Tillman…and not in a way that involved keeping his tail out of potentially dangerous situations…which they CERTAINLY DID NOT!

They were concerned about something else about Tillman. And Rummy took a personal interest in this. That’s why I’m wondering if something in Tillman’s emails or letters to home about Chomsky might have sparked this “unusual interest” in Tillman from a man who was simply “too busy” to care about the personal events related to one enlistee…an enlistee who’s death was significant enough for Rummy’s chief aide to bring to the attention of the President.

This memo was before Tillman died?

and good morning!

yellowdog jim @ 132

Ed*ard Teller @ 128

BTW, Big Mitch helped me defend Diane Benson on KUDO Radio’s talk show in Anchorage today which had portrayed her inaccurately earlier in the week. He was remarkable, kicking some serious butt.

having heard your previous comments, i am grateful for this follow up.
thanks.

Seem’s KUDO’s talk-show host was out spreading some quite malicious stuff to sabotage Benson.

They do NOT deserve any “kudos” for this.

cinnamonape @ 227

solai @ 218

There was one thing mentioned yesterday at the Tillman hearing that I did not know. I guess it’s what you’re referring to above. There’s a Rumsfeld email that says “We better keep an eye on Tillman”??????? I didn’t see the hearing yet, picked that up in the blogging. Did that get explained at all? Sounds ominous.

Indeed…Rummy sent a “snowflake” (code for a memorandum) that said something like “Keep an eye on Tillman”. When asked about what this meant Rummy insolently stated stated “It means what it means.”

Well, it means TO ME, that they felt concerned about Tillman…and not in a way that involved keeping his tail out of potentially dangerous situations…which they CERTAINLY DID NOT!

They were concerned about something else about Tillman. And Rummy took a personal interest in this. That’s why I’m wondering if something in Tillman’s emails or letters to home about Chomsky might have sparked this “unusual interest” in Tillman from a man who was simply “too busy” to care about the personal events related to one enlistee…an enlistee who’s death was significant enough for Rummy’s chief aide to bring to the attention of the President.

I think,initially at least,they thought they could use Tillman as a poster boy for Shock and Awe. His enlistment and going to Afghanistan was news at the time,football fans were especially interested in the story. America does love it’s pro athletes. At first,I don’t think they watched him beyond that. He was gorgeous,a rising football star who gave up fame and lots of money to join the Army,he would have been the perfect PR tool. Since they were watching him for that reason,it would have been really maddening for them to see he wasn’t like their ad guys would have loved for him to be.

I don’t think they started out watching Tillman for anything more nefarious than PR(which is bad enough). As more time passed however,I’m pretty damned sure the reasons for watching him changed.

egregious @ 219

Kos people:

The Plame panel is this morning at 9:30 central. There was earlier talk of it being one of the afternoons.

This is it: today. Speakers include Christy, Marcy, and Jeralyn.

By the way Scarecrow and I were in the elevator and who walks in? Jeralyn. Talk about your synchronicities.

Is there gonna be summaries of the confabs at Kos here? Hope so!

You know, I took that freakin’ snowflake to mean that Rumsfeld took notice that he had a media star in the Army and to make sure they looked out for him.

The Army put him under a leader (forget the rank and name but can go find it) who had never lost a man in his unit.

That’s good, if not special, treatment. They also put his brother with him in the same unit. Again, something a little different.

The freakin’ snowflake means Rumsfeld was paying attention, and he’s lying when he says he wasn’t.

If I have the energy, I’ll get his words of defense for himself. They included “not a piece of paper, not a person” does Mary Tillman have to prove her contention that Rumsfeld knew.

He had the nerve to say that Mary Tillman was “gracious” enough to admit that she had no legal proof for her assertions. I can’t imagine being the mother of Pat Tillman at that moment.

selise @ 229

Boston1775 @ 212

Here’s what I’m working on to attend: ustream.

will ustream be covering the plame panel? finger’s crossed.

selise, I don’t know. That’s why I keep putting this link out there – to see if anyone knows anything:)

Boston1775 @ 234

You know, I took that freakin’ snowflake to mean that Rumsfeld took notice that he had a media star in the Army and to make sure they looked out for him.

The Army put him under a leader (forget the rank and name but can go find it) who had never lost a man in his unit.

That’s good, if not special, treatment. They also put his brother with him in the same unit. Again, something a little different.

The freakin’ snowflake means Rumsfeld was paying attention, and he’s lying when he says he wasn’t.

If I have the energy, I’ll get his words of defense for himself. They included “not a piece of paper, not a person” does Mary Tillman have to prove her contention that Rumsfeld knew.

He had the nerve to say that Mary Tillman was “gracious” enough to admit that she had no legal proof for her assertions. I can’t imagine being the mother of Pat Tillman at that moment.

thanks for that! I do remember hearing the bit where Rummy says you can’t prove it. He really is craven.

wigwam @ 186

BigMitch @ 177

Just heard on the radio that Olmert in discussions with the P.A.
Could just be an effort to trianglate Hamas out.
But prayers for peace …

Here’s a link to a Jerusalem Post article: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/S…..e/ShowFull

Possibly, sometimes things shift when a nominal (or covert) ally becomes your enemy…and your previous enemy looks a lot more reasonable.

Boston1775 @ 234

You know, I took that freakin’ snowflake to mean that Rumsfeld took notice that he had a media star in the Army and to make sure they looked out for him.

The Army put him under a leader (forget the rank and name but can go find it) who had never lost a man in his unit.

That’s good, if not special, treatment. They also put his brother with him in the same unit. Again, something a little different.

The freakin’ snowflake means Rumsfeld was paying attention, and he’s lying when he says he wasn’t.

If I have the energy, I’ll get his words of defense for himself. They included “not a piece of paper, not a person” does Mary Tillman have to prove her contention that Rumsfeld knew.

He had the nerve to say that Mary Tillman was “gracious” enough to admit that she had no legal proof for her assertions. I can’t imagine being the mother of Pat Tillman at that moment.

Of course, the Bush Administration has “blocked” access to all those “pieces of paper”…and have been quite effective in creating a “cone of forgetfulness” around those testifying.

But as Sherlock Holmes once asked Watson…”What was unusual about the dog barking in the night, Watson?” Watson: “But, the dog didn’t bark, Holmes.”

“THAT was what was unusual, My dear Watson!”

So much forgetfulness about the man they awarded a silver star to for death in COMBAT against the ENEMY. Yet no one knows who expedited the issuance of the Silver Star? Who ignored the physicians request that an intentional close-range murder investigation be initiated? Who burned Tillman’s uniform and destroyed his personal effects?

So is *anyone* going to show up for Leahy’s hearing this morning?

If not, I hope he’s prepared, as was Linda Sanchez on the House side, to move to directly to the start of contempt proceedings.

Elliott @ 230

cinnamonape @ 227

Indeed…Rummy sent a “snowflake” (code for a memorandum) that said something like “Keep an eye on Tillman”. When asked about what this meant Rummy insolently stated stated “It means what it means.”
.

This memo was before Tillman died?

and good morning!

Yes! I believe it was in the Kucinich questioning. Wonder how he got it?

new thread upstairs

Folks – I know the Tillman hearings yesterday were infuriating and disheartening — but I also think they were not surprising in the least. How could anyone in their right (or left) mind think that Rummy et al. would sit there and actually tell the truth, all of it? Really? When Gonzalez (and Libby too) has demonstrated that the phrases “I don’t know” and “I don’t recall” are the magic shield of this administration? Huh? Yah think? No. We would all have fallen off our collective computer stools if even one of them had told the truth or taken some sort of responsibility. They did exactly what we expected of them. And Bushco will continue to do that over and over and over again. Because they can. And because they really do believe that if they keep on telling the lies, that this stick that they beat us with day after day will just make us…get tired and go away. The Congress-people are not helping us a whole lot on this – the whole lack of attack at the Tillman hearings must have made Mrs. Tillman want to poke someone in the eye with a sharp stick. But that does not mean that we have the right to give up. What we have the right to do (that is, until Bushco et al. takes all of our rights away)is to express ourselves long and loud. And yes, be frustrated, but contact your people, no matter how right wing, hide bound, and dumb-assed they are. And work locally with the whole “raising money for the other folks or better folks” thing. Because frankly, that is what this is all about: Money. We can’t count on people doing the right thing or the best thing or even the thing that we want – what we can count on is that if we give our money to the right people AND GET THEM ELECTED, we have a far better chance of cleaning up this mess than we do right now with hoping that one of these guys is going to “get religion” and come out and spill all the dirty laundry so that we get our wish and Poof, Bush, Cheney, Gonzalez et al. disappear. WE need to take some responsibility. The reason the GOP got in there in 2000 is that, in my opinion, we thought everyone was as smart as we are and would see what a chimpaholic dumbass GWB is and would say, “Hell, NO!” when they got to the ballot box. You cannot count on people like that. The GOP got there because they threw more money and more people at the task and when things got thin at the end, they were able to get the Supreme Court to support them (and I am sure that there are Justices that have a tough time looking at themselves even now over that). If we are not willing to do the hard work and the tough job with this, then shame on us.
And, in the meantime, I think we can all ask ourselves the daily questions: “What have I done today to help end this madness? What have I done in a personal way, to help one person who has been hurt by the Bush Administration and their policies of hate?” It’s not just a checkbook thing. But I think a lot of us tend to hide behind the computer screens making a lot of noise when there are people out there who need help and can’t get it, when there are people out there who could be great progressive candidates but who need help in their campaigns. Let’s all get off our cans folks, because you KNOW that the GOP has plans for the next election and number one on the list is NOT going to be “We’re a shoe-in; we don’t have to do anything to win.”

Toby Wollin @ 242 –

i don’t think anyone is talking about giving up.

and my frustration with yesterday’s hearing was not that rummy et al. played their lying game. not at all, that was completely expected.

what i did not expect was that most of the dems on the committee would use their time in lame attempts to get in an effective sound bite and not to help to either uncover the truth, or to explain what is known.

FISA Court Ruled Wiretaps Illegal.

Have we met, Toby?

Thanks for posting this great Maxime LeForestier song! He helped keep me sane while I lived in Paris 1971-1972, along with Joni Mitchell’s Blue album.

cinnamonape @ 227

solai @ 218

There was one thing mentioned yesterday at the Tillman hearing that I did not know. I guess it’s what you’re referring to above. There’s a Rumsfeld email that says “We better keep an eye on Tillman”??????? I didn’t see the hearing yet, picked that up in the blogging. Did that get explained at all? Sounds ominous.

Indeed…Rummy sent a “snowflake” (code for a memorandum) that said something like “Keep an eye on Tillman”. When asked about what this meant Rummy insolently stated stated “It means what it means.”

Well, it means TO ME, that they felt concerned about Tillman…and not in a way that involved keeping his tail out of potentially dangerous situations…which they CERTAINLY DID NOT!

They were concerned about something else about Tillman. And Rummy took a personal interest in this. That’s why I’m wondering if something in Tillman’s emails or letters to home about Chomsky might have sparked this “unusual interest” in Tillman from a man who was simply “too busy” to care about the personal events related to one enlistee…an enlistee who’s death was significant enough for Rummy’s chief aide to bring to the attention of the President.

No wonder Romney doesn’t want to take a debate question from a snowman.

punaise @ 120

Suzanne @ 119

Lived in the SF Bay Area since 1964 or 65 – in SF (8th Ave/Cabrillo a block and a half from the entrance to GG Park) from 73 – 77 and then out to the suburbs of southern Alameda County. Regained my senses and moved to the Santa Cruz Mts 4 years ago.

SF stints:
Cole Valley ‘84-85
Bernal Heights ‘90-92

Moved here in 1990, still in the same flat near Dolores Park, on rent control!

Suzanne @ 44

still life living, i stand by my statement that rolling over and playing dead, giving up, won’t change a thing. The lake has been very proactive in trying to wake up the rest of this country.

I wish I knew the answer to the why can’t this be easier – other than to say that taking the easy way out and being defeatist is not the answer.

Revolution is easier, but bloodier.

Gandhi had a better idea, but it was pretty boring.

fdl is part of a peaceful revolution with dancing, music, jokes and very high ideals, but a very pragmatic approach to getting there. In other words, we’re trying to live up to the American Ideal or American Dream, if you wish. And, we’re not gonna let some sociopathic shrimp from Crayfish Texas interrupt our party.

dmac @ 91

burns says-”Bananas are good for you, and they taste good. They taste especially good when combined with vanilla ice cream, lots of brown sugar, and a little rum, and then flambed table-side.”

bananas foster………but the best is peach melba…….my favorite.

I love a banana and peanut butter sandwich!

Ed*ard Teller @ 185

BigMitch @ 179

That was then, this is now. Now as in, the president of the United States is George fuckin’ W. Bush. Funny thing, me an Ralph thought he might win Florida, too.

60,000 African American voters in Florida in 2000 either were not allowed to vote or didn’t have their votes counted. In the period between the 2000 election and the decision on Gore vs Bush, the Dem strategy was consciously to avoid mentioning that issue. The Democrats have yet to do anything about reinstating the disenfranchised African American Florida voters, after being in power for over six months.

If you’re curious about the election fight, then go over to bradblog.com and read-up. That’s the specialty issue there.

Plenty of fighting on that has occurred without the press seeming to notice. But, that doesn’t mean NOTHING has occurred.

Maxime le Forestier! I have not heard this song in years and cannot get it from the Apple Store. If anyone would be so kind, please let me know where I can download a copy!