Comments on: The Rubber-Stampers’ Latest Contortion http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/the-rubber-stampers-latest-contortion/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:25:02 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: apishapa http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/the-rubber-stampers-latest-contortion/#comment-861409 apishapa Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:59:32 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/the-rubber-stampers-latest-contortion/#comment-861409 <p>sounds like Republicans are embracing that evil “micro-managing” thingy they hate so much to me. Unless the mission is “limited” to <b>getting the hell out </b>, it’s a waste of time.</p> sounds like Republicans are embracing that evil “micro-managing” thingy they hate so much to me. Unless the mission is “limited” to getting the hell out , it’s a waste of time.

]]> By: dakine01 http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/the-rubber-stampers-latest-contortion/#comment-861386 dakine01 Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:53:01 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/the-rubber-stampers-latest-contortion/#comment-861386 <p>MarkH,<br /> Sununu is way behind in the polls right now, especially if paired against Jeanne Shaheen whom he beat (with some corruption help) last time.</p> <p>McConnell is extremely vulnerable and likely to have a reverse Dacshle pulled against him. smith and Craig are also vulnerable for different reasons as is Cornyn.</p> MarkH,
Sununu is way behind in the polls right now, especially if paired against Jeanne Shaheen whom he beat (with some corruption help) last time.

McConnell is extremely vulnerable and likely to have a reverse Dacshle pulled against him. smith and Craig are also vulnerable for different reasons as is Cornyn.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/the-rubber-stampers-latest-contortion/#comment-861365 MarkH Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:44:38 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/the-rubber-stampers-latest-contortion/#comment-861365 <p><a href="#comment-860163"><em>dakine01 @ 312</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-860127"><em>MarkH @ 309</em></a></p> <blockquote> <p>Which are vulnerable? I’d guess McCain and Deconcini are now among them. Vitter could be. Heh. But, I’m not sure which are up for re-election. Anybody have a list or link for them? </p></blockquote> </blockquote> <p>Meant Domenici instead of Deconcini. How did I get that name twisting?</p> <blockquote><p> Republicans:<br /> Alaska Ted Stevens </p></blockquote> <p>Looks vulnerable…especially as of last night.</p> <blockquote><p> Alabama Jeff Sessions<br /> Colorado OPEN (Wayne Allard retiring) </p></blockquote> <p>Obviously a seat to contest.</p> <blockquote><p> Maine Susan Collins </p></blockquote> <p>hard to read this seat — depends on opponent</p> <blockquote><p> Minnesota Norm Coleman </p></blockquote> <p>Very likely a Dem could win there.</p> <blockquote><p> New Hampshire John Sununu<br /> Oregon Gordon Smith<br /> Georgia Saxby Chambliss </p></blockquote> <p>Not positive, but if absence of electronic voting machines happens, then there’s a chance.</p> <blockquote><p> Idaho Larry Craig<br /> Kansas Pat Roberts<br /> Kentucky Mitch McConnell<br /> Mississippi Thad Cochran<br /> Nebraska Chuck Hagel<br /> New Mexico Pete Domenici </p></blockquote> <p>Is his fate sealed because of USA Iglesias?</p> <blockquote><p> North Carolina Elizabeth Dole </p></blockquote> <p>If Edwards is the nominee, there might be a chance.</p> <blockquote><p> Oklahoma Jim Inhofe<br /> South Carolina Lindsey Graham<br /> Tennessee Lamar Alexander<br /> Texas John Cornyn<br /> Virginia John Warner </p></blockquote> <p>Isn’t he retiring?</p> <blockquote><p> Wyoming John Barrasso (special election)<br /> Wyoming Michael Enzi </p></blockquote> <p>With Cheney’s endorsement both seats could go Dem.</p> <blockquote> <p>Democrats:<br /> Arkansas Mark Pryor<br /> Delaware Joe Biden<br /> Iowa Tom Harkin<br /> Illinois Dick Durbin<br /> Louisiana Mary Landrieu </p></blockquote> <p>First race after Katrina will be uncertain.</p> <blockquote><p> Massachusetts John Kerry<br /> Michigan Carl Levin<br /> Montana Max Baucus<br /> New Jersey Frank Lautenberg </p></blockquote> <p>Last NJ race was tight, so this could be too.</p> <blockquote><p> Rhode Island Jack Reed<br /> West Virginia Jay Rockefeller<br /> South Dakota Tim Johnson </p></blockquote> <p>Can Johnson even run a race?</p> <blockquote></blockquote> <p>Total: 8 R seats in danger, 3 D seats</p> <p>Unpredictable factor: Big Dem sweep for president would affect Congressional races too.</p> dakine01 @ 312

MarkH @ 309

Which are vulnerable? I’d guess McCain and Deconcini are now among them. Vitter could be. Heh. But, I’m not sure which are up for re-election. Anybody have a list or link for them?

Meant Domenici instead of Deconcini. How did I get that name twisting?

Republicans:
Alaska Ted Stevens

Looks vulnerable…especially as of last night.

Alabama Jeff Sessions
Colorado OPEN (Wayne Allard retiring)

Obviously a seat to contest.

Maine Susan Collins

hard to read this seat — depends on opponent

Minnesota Norm Coleman

Very likely a Dem could win there.

New Hampshire John Sununu
Oregon Gordon Smith
Georgia Saxby Chambliss

Not positive, but if absence of electronic voting machines happens, then there’s a chance.

Idaho Larry Craig
Kansas Pat Roberts
Kentucky Mitch McConnell
Mississippi Thad Cochran
Nebraska Chuck Hagel
New Mexico Pete Domenici

Is his fate sealed because of USA Iglesias?

North Carolina Elizabeth Dole

If Edwards is the nominee, there might be a chance.

Oklahoma Jim Inhofe
South Carolina Lindsey Graham
Tennessee Lamar Alexander
Texas John Cornyn
Virginia John Warner

Isn’t he retiring?

Wyoming John Barrasso (special election)
Wyoming Michael Enzi

With Cheney’s endorsement both seats could go Dem.

Democrats:
Arkansas Mark Pryor
Delaware Joe Biden
Iowa Tom Harkin
Illinois Dick Durbin
Louisiana Mary Landrieu

First race after Katrina will be uncertain.

Massachusetts John Kerry
Michigan Carl Levin
Montana Max Baucus
New Jersey Frank Lautenberg

Last NJ race was tight, so this could be too.

Rhode Island Jack Reed
West Virginia Jay Rockefeller
South Dakota Tim Johnson

Can Johnson even run a race?

Total: 8 R seats in danger, 3 D seats

Unpredictable factor: Big Dem sweep for president would affect Congressional races too.

]]> By: dakine01 http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/the-rubber-stampers-latest-contortion/#comment-860163 dakine01 Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:46:13 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/the-rubber-stampers-latest-contortion/#comment-860163 <p><a href="#comment-860127"><em>MarkH @ 309</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-859822"><em>dakine01 @ 233</em></a></p> <blockquote> <p>Actually, the Rs are defending 22 seats in ‘08 with many surprises among the vulnerable.</p></blockquote> <p>Which are vulnerable? I’d guess McCain and Deconcini are now among them. Vitter could be. Heh. But, I’m not sure which are up for re-election. Anybody have a list or link for them?</p></blockquote> <p>Alaska Ted Stevens<br /> Alabama Jeff Sessions<br /> Colorado OPEN (Wayne Allard retiring)<br /> Maine Susan Collins<br /> Minnesota Norm Coleman<br /> New Hampshire John Sununu<br /> Oregon Gordon Smith<br /> Georgia Saxby Chambliss<br /> Idaho Larry Craig<br /> Kansas Pat Roberts<br /> Kentucky Mitch McConnell<br /> Mississippi Thad Cochran<br /> Nebraska Chuck Hagel<br /> New Mexico Pete Domenici<br /> North Carolina Elizabeth Dole<br /> Oklahoma Jim Inhofe<br /> South Carolina Lindsey Graham<br /> Tennessee Lamar Alexander<br /> Texas John Cornyn<br /> Virginia John Warner<br /> Wyoming John Barrasso (special election)<br /> Wyoming Michael Enzi</p> <p>Arkansas Mark Pryor<br /> Delaware Joe Biden<br /> Iowa Tom Harkin<br /> Illinois Dick Durbin<br /> Louisiana Mary Landrieu<br /> Massachusetts John Kerry<br /> Michigan Carl Levin<br /> Montana Max Baucus<br /> New Jersey Frank Lautenberg<br /> Rhode Island Jack Reed<br /> West Virginia Jay Rockefeller<br /> South Dakota Tim Johnson</p> MarkH @ 309

dakine01 @ 233

Actually, the Rs are defending 22 seats in ‘08 with many surprises among the vulnerable.

Which are vulnerable? I’d guess McCain and Deconcini are now among them. Vitter could be. Heh. But, I’m not sure which are up for re-election. Anybody have a list or link for them?

Alaska Ted Stevens
Alabama Jeff Sessions
Colorado OPEN (Wayne Allard retiring)
Maine Susan Collins
Minnesota Norm Coleman
New Hampshire John Sununu
Oregon Gordon Smith
Georgia Saxby Chambliss
Idaho Larry Craig
Kansas Pat Roberts
Kentucky Mitch McConnell
Mississippi Thad Cochran
Nebraska Chuck Hagel
New Mexico Pete Domenici
North Carolina Elizabeth Dole
Oklahoma Jim Inhofe
South Carolina Lindsey Graham
Tennessee Lamar Alexander
Texas John Cornyn
Virginia John Warner
Wyoming John Barrasso (special election)
Wyoming Michael Enzi

Arkansas Mark Pryor
Delaware Joe Biden
Iowa Tom Harkin
Illinois Dick Durbin
Louisiana Mary Landrieu
Massachusetts John Kerry
Michigan Carl Levin
Montana Max Baucus
New Jersey Frank Lautenberg
Rhode Island Jack Reed
West Virginia Jay Rockefeller
South Dakota Tim Johnson

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/the-rubber-stampers-latest-contortion/#comment-860160 MarkH Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:45:49 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/the-rubber-stampers-latest-contortion/#comment-860160 <p>Which senators may be vulnerable will depend a lot upon the Dem facing them. I hope we’ve got plenty of Progressive Dems out there.</p> <p>BTW, anybody know about the Dem running against Shelley Moore Capito in the WV 2nd Cong. Dist. I saw him on a talk show yesterday night. He’s named John Unger (I think). Is he somebody we should support?</p> Which senators may be vulnerable will depend a lot upon the Dem facing them. I hope we’ve got plenty of Progressive Dems out there.

BTW, anybody know about the Dem running against Shelley Moore Capito in the WV 2nd Cong. Dist. I saw him on a talk show yesterday night. He’s named John Unger (I think). Is he somebody we should support?

]]> By: MODzilla http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/the-rubber-stampers-latest-contortion/#comment-860139 MODzilla Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:36:20 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/the-rubber-stampers-latest-contortion/#comment-860139 <p>Folks, Personal attacks or violent overtones will cause you to lose commenting privileges.</p> <p>Thanks<br /> MODzilla</p> Folks, Personal attacks or violent overtones will cause you to lose commenting privileges.

Thanks
MODzilla

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/the-rubber-stampers-latest-contortion/#comment-860127 MarkH Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:28:17 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/the-rubber-stampers-latest-contortion/#comment-860127 <p><a href="#comment-859822"><em>dakine01 @ 233</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-859808"><em>rwcole @ 221</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>11 seat pickup in the senate? Not possible.</p> <p>There will be 32 or so races and nearly half of em are already dem seats.. NO WAY..3 seat gain would be a very good performance.</p></blockquote> <p>Actually, the Rs are defending 22 seats in ‘08 with many surprises among the vulnerable.</p></blockquote> <p>Which are vulnerable? I’d guess McCain and Deconcini are now among them. Vitter could be. Heh. But, I’m not sure which are up for re-election. Anybody have a list or link for them?</p> dakine01 @ 233

rwcole @ 221

11 seat pickup in the senate? Not possible.

There will be 32 or so races and nearly half of em are already dem seats.. NO WAY..3 seat gain would be a very good performance.

Actually, the Rs are defending 22 seats in ‘08 with many surprises among the vulnerable.

Which are vulnerable? I’d guess McCain and Deconcini are now among them. Vitter could be. Heh. But, I’m not sure which are up for re-election. Anybody have a list or link for them?

]]> By: Thad Beier http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/the-rubber-stampers-latest-contortion/#comment-860106 Thad Beier Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:19:37 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/the-rubber-stampers-latest-contortion/#comment-860106 <p>Not that anybody is going to read this far — the parent article makes something clear that had baffled me.</p> <p>When Reid first said that they were putting the defense appropriations bill aside until September, we witnessed the danger of <em>talking-pointus-interruptus</em>. Many pundits had said, without a shred of evidence, that the GOP were just about to ask for the troops to come home, but the Majority Leader made that impossible.</p> <p>So — it is clear that all of these pundits had a copy of the game plan, and had their articles praising these brave Republicans all ready to go — and Reid cut ‘em off at the pass. And so we were left with some extremely odd articles from the right wing nuts.</p> <p>I have to say, my respect for Mr Reid has gone up quite a bit. Nice move.</p> Not that anybody is going to read this far — the parent article makes something clear that had baffled me.

When Reid first said that they were putting the defense appropriations bill aside until September, we witnessed the danger of talking-pointus-interruptus. Many pundits had said, without a shred of evidence, that the GOP were just about to ask for the troops to come home, but the Majority Leader made that impossible.

So — it is clear that all of these pundits had a copy of the game plan, and had their articles praising these brave Republicans all ready to go — and Reid cut ‘em off at the pass. And so we were left with some extremely odd articles from the right wing nuts.

I have to say, my respect for Mr Reid has gone up quite a bit. Nice move.

]]> By: wesgpc http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/the-rubber-stampers-latest-contortion/#comment-860103 wesgpc Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:19:07 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/the-rubber-stampers-latest-contortion/#comment-860103 <p>Big Ken: The Act had bipartisan support because the Vietnamese war was political poison for either party to support. Ford, a Republican, signed it. If he thought it was so bad he should have vetoed it. The South Vietnamse army had thousands of US military advisors still on the ground, and still were receiving both economic and military aid when they collapsed, since the aid via previoius fudning mechanism was not going to be cut off unitl sometime in 1976. The Act did not prohibit all and any military aid to South Vietnam. The South Vietnamese army collapsed on their own two months after the Act was signed.</p> <p>If you know a different secret history, you should cite your sources.</p> Big Ken: The Act had bipartisan support because the Vietnamese war was political poison for either party to support. Ford, a Republican, signed it. If he thought it was so bad he should have vetoed it. The South Vietnamse army had thousands of US military advisors still on the ground, and still were receiving both economic and military aid when they collapsed, since the aid via previoius fudning mechanism was not going to be cut off unitl sometime in 1976. The Act did not prohibit all and any military aid to South Vietnam. The South Vietnamese army collapsed on their own two months after the Act was signed.

If you know a different secret history, you should cite your sources.

]]> By: Tanbark http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/the-rubber-stampers-latest-contortion/#comment-860097 Tanbark Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:15:03 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/the-rubber-stampers-latest-contortion/#comment-860097 <p>BigKen, I bet you don’t get blocked. This aint Late German Fucktards.</p> <p>“…I honor them…” </p> <p>Then why are you supporting george bush using them to referee the bloody civil war he’s created, and using them to try to cover his and the GOP’s asses until he can get out of town and dump the flaming bag of shit in someone else’s lap?</p> BigKen, I bet you don’t get blocked. This aint Late German Fucktards.

“…I honor them…”

Then why are you supporting george bush using them to referee the bloody civil war he’s created, and using them to try to cover his and the GOP’s asses until he can get out of town and dump the flaming bag of shit in someone else’s lap?

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