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		<title>By: Paul in LA</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/status-quo-no-thanks/#comment-860769</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul in LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 08:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Consider the case of George W. Bush, whose life story telegraphed everything voters needed to know to make an informed decision about him…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Which was &lt;b&gt;why he WASN’T ELECTED EITHER TIME&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Consider the case of George W. Bush, whose life story telegraphed everything voters needed to know to make an informed decision about him…</p>
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<p>Which was <b>why he WASN’T ELECTED EITHER TIME</b>.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul in LA</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/status-quo-no-thanks/#comment-860768</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul in LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 08:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; Consider the case of George W. Bush, whose &lt;b&gt;life story telegraphed everything voters needed to know to make an informed decision about him&lt;/b&gt;: He had dodged the Vietnam-era draft while avidly supporting the war; he had drunk his way through much of his adulthood, even while he had young children at home; he had shown extraordinary incompetence in the business world; his campaign had smeared Sen. John McCain with stories about mental instability and an allegedly illegitimate baby to get Bush through the South Carolina primary in 2000; and he had mocked a fellow born-again Christian whom he put to death as governor of Texas. It was quite a story. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;The problem was that the Democrats wouldn’t tell it.”&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;NO, THAT  WOULD BE THE WASHINGTON POST THAT REFUSED TO TELL MANY STORIES … about the Brooks Brothers Riot, the complicity of Scalia, Thomas, Kennedy and the damned departed others. They didn’t tell us about the many oddities of Nine-eleven, about GHWB having breakfast with Bin Laden on that day, stuff like that, and — oh yeah — the &lt;b&gt;vote fraud&lt;/b&gt; that put these ‘obvious bastards’ into power with their help.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Every dog in DC has pissed on that Post. And with good reason.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Consider the case of George W. Bush, whose <b>life story telegraphed everything voters needed to know to make an informed decision about him</b>: He had dodged the Vietnam-era draft while avidly supporting the war; he had drunk his way through much of his adulthood, even while he had young children at home; he had shown extraordinary incompetence in the business world; his campaign had smeared Sen. John McCain with stories about mental instability and an allegedly illegitimate baby to get Bush through the South Carolina primary in 2000; and he had mocked a fellow born-again Christian whom he put to death as governor of Texas. It was quite a story. </p>
<p><b>The problem was that the Democrats wouldn’t tell it.”</b></p>
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<p>NO, THAT  WOULD BE THE WASHINGTON POST THAT REFUSED TO TELL MANY STORIES … about the Brooks Brothers Riot, the complicity of Scalia, Thomas, Kennedy and the damned departed others. They didn’t tell us about the many oddities of Nine-eleven, about GHWB having breakfast with Bin Laden on that day, stuff like that, and — oh yeah — the <b>vote fraud</b> that put these ‘obvious bastards’ into power with their help.</p>
<p>Every dog in DC has pissed on that Post. And with good reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul in LA</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/status-quo-no-thanks/#comment-860767</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul in LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 08:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Of course, the WaPo has completely failed to diagnose or notice the STOLEN ELECTIONS, it has heard very little or nothing about caging lists, about twenty hour waits in line to vote, about grossly illegal electrovote machines. It didn’t notice that &lt;b&gt;Bush didn’t win Ohio&lt;/b&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So they shovel this pseudo-intellectual David Hume spin instead.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And if you believe in David Hume-spun WaPo, and you too have not identified the TRUE reason for Dem losses since this coup (which arguably started in earnest in 1998), then you can find the WaPo’s deception that people vote passions pseudo-intellectually satisfying.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mobs vote passions. WaPo works for Louis XVI, so they blame mob passions for everything. And to royalists, pseudo-royalists, to ascribe pseudo-intellectual explanations to the actions of the mob is what we would expect. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don’t blame people for the crimes of the royals in establishing their tyranny. IF THEY COUNTED OUR VOTES, &lt;b&gt;WE WON, EASILY.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, the WaPo has completely failed to diagnose or notice the STOLEN ELECTIONS, it has heard very little or nothing about caging lists, about twenty hour waits in line to vote, about grossly illegal electrovote machines. It didn’t notice that <b>Bush didn’t win Ohio</b>. </p>
<p>So they shovel this pseudo-intellectual David Hume spin instead.</p>
<p>And if you believe in David Hume-spun WaPo, and you too have not identified the TRUE reason for Dem losses since this coup (which arguably started in earnest in 1998), then you can find the WaPo’s deception that people vote passions pseudo-intellectually satisfying.</p>
<p>Mobs vote passions. WaPo works for Louis XVI, so they blame mob passions for everything. And to royalists, pseudo-royalists, to ascribe pseudo-intellectual explanations to the actions of the mob is what we would expect. </p>
<p>Don’t blame people for the crimes of the royals in establishing their tyranny. IF THEY COUNTED OUR VOTES, <b>WE WON, EASILY.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Paul in LA</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/status-quo-no-thanks/#comment-860755</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul in LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 08:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;THEY HAVE BEEN STEALING THE ELECTIONS.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The suggestion that Democrats need to work on their agitprop ignores the fact that ALL THE MEDIA BULLSHIT IN THE LAST TEN YEARS didn’t elect Republicans. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;• It elected DEMOCRATS, and then Republicans stole the vote with their caging lists and rigged &lt;i&gt;electrovote&lt;/i&gt; machines.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The war in Iraq is the direct result of a COUP, not some kind of loss at the polls. And the supposed poll on the approval of Congress has NOTHING to do with that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How many Dem incumbents have lost their jobs in the last ten years (excepting the ones removed through VOTEFRAUD such as California Governor Gray Davis)? Basically very few.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So the suggestion from the gang at Main Rhetoric that their new ‘Demoscat 2008′ will clean up the rank, unsophisticated smells leading to those nasty election losses is &lt;b&gt;countering, happily, by the fact that it was the folks at MAIN JUSTICE who screwed Democracy (and it’s crats) in the hump, not the finepoints of manipulating public consent. &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When we get over the spin on that, the equation gets far easier than the Beltway and Muffled Media myths about elections going to better argument. The demographic is on our side of the policies, and people make choice of legislator in a situation that is often nearly random. Since the demographic favors our side, our values, our topics and purposes, we win elections — not on message, but on identity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s why they have to steal them. They steal elections because their policies are deeply unpopular and the only way they can establish them is by tyranny. Message has nothing to do with it beyond being a bit of lace on the thug’s underwear.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>THEY HAVE BEEN STEALING THE ELECTIONS.</b></p>
<p>The suggestion that Democrats need to work on their agitprop ignores the fact that ALL THE MEDIA BULLSHIT IN THE LAST TEN YEARS didn’t elect Republicans. </p>
<p>• It elected DEMOCRATS, and then Republicans stole the vote with their caging lists and rigged <i>electrovote</i> machines.</p>
<p>The war in Iraq is the direct result of a COUP, not some kind of loss at the polls. And the supposed poll on the approval of Congress has NOTHING to do with that.</p>
<p>How many Dem incumbents have lost their jobs in the last ten years (excepting the ones removed through VOTEFRAUD such as California Governor Gray Davis)? Basically very few.</p>
<p>So the suggestion from the gang at Main Rhetoric that their new ‘Demoscat 2008′ will clean up the rank, unsophisticated smells leading to those nasty election losses is <b>countering, happily, by the fact that it was the folks at MAIN JUSTICE who screwed Democracy (and it’s crats) in the hump, not the finepoints of manipulating public consent. </b></p>
<p>When we get over the spin on that, the equation gets far easier than the Beltway and Muffled Media myths about elections going to better argument. The demographic is on our side of the policies, and people make choice of legislator in a situation that is often nearly random. Since the demographic favors our side, our values, our topics and purposes, we win elections — not on message, but on identity.</p>
<p>That’s why they have to steal them. They steal elections because their policies are deeply unpopular and the only way they can establish them is by tyranny. Message has nothing to do with it beyond being a bit of lace on the thug’s underwear.</p>
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		<title>By: dmbeaster</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/status-quo-no-thanks/#comment-860393</link>
		<dc:creator>dmbeaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 04:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Christy:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From my experience as a trial lawyer, your observation is absolutely true when trying to persuade jurors — emotional logic rules the day.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The mistake is thinking that emotion and reason are somehow divorced from one another — they are not (best example of this — ask what a mathematician means when they refer to “an elegant proof”).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Another mistake is that “appealing to emotions” is frequently equated with pandering to emotions.  But we are emotionally smart enough to recognize when someone is appealing to emotions to the exclusion of logic.  The key is to put them together, but to have reason serve the emotional truth you are selling.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christy:</p>
<p>From my experience as a trial lawyer, your observation is absolutely true when trying to persuade jurors — emotional logic rules the day.</p>
<p>The mistake is thinking that emotion and reason are somehow divorced from one another — they are not (best example of this — ask what a mathematician means when they refer to “an elegant proof”).</p>
<p>Another mistake is that “appealing to emotions” is frequently equated with pandering to emotions.  But we are emotionally smart enough to recognize when someone is appealing to emotions to the exclusion of logic.  The key is to put them together, but to have reason serve the emotional truth you are selling.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/status-quo-no-thanks/#comment-860387</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 04:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Keep placid.” What is that supposed to mean? The implication is that the pictured female worker must be suffering from, or threatened by, some lack of placidity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The style of the poster, and the industrial equipment on which the she is working, suggests that the worker is from the Rosie the Riveter cohort of women working through the war for want of a man to do the same job.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We might thereby conclude that our female is anxious and lonely, lacking male companionship. In short, she needs to keep her sexual tension in check.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Many products and procedures have been hawked as cures for that disease. Vibrators (operated by male doctors), pills, psychoanalysis, and (I  think) cigarettes can all help suppress that ache.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But to suggest that the best path for women is to keep placid? That moves beyond paternalism into the territory of insult. No grown person outside of Orwell’s 1984 needs to be subjected to such condescending claptrap.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Keep placid.” What is that supposed to mean? The implication is that the pictured female worker must be suffering from, or threatened by, some lack of placidity.</p>
<p>The style of the poster, and the industrial equipment on which the she is working, suggests that the worker is from the Rosie the Riveter cohort of women working through the war for want of a man to do the same job.</p>
<p>We might thereby conclude that our female is anxious and lonely, lacking male companionship. In short, she needs to keep her sexual tension in check.</p>
<p>Many products and procedures have been hawked as cures for that disease. Vibrators (operated by male doctors), pills, psychoanalysis, and (I  think) cigarettes can all help suppress that ache.</p>
<p>But to suggest that the best path for women is to keep placid? That moves beyond paternalism into the territory of insult. No grown person outside of Orwell’s 1984 needs to be subjected to such condescending claptrap.</p>
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		<title>By: cynic</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/status-quo-no-thanks/#comment-860362</link>
		<dc:creator>cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 04:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-859991&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;MarkH @ 219&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-859499&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TeddySanFran @ 128&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Breaking News on &lt;a href=&quot;http://abcnews.go.com/&quot;&gt;ABCnews.com&lt;/a&gt;: FBI AND IRS ARE EXECUTING A SEARCH WARRANT OF ALASKA SEN. TED STEVENS’ HOME, AUTHORITIES IN WASHINGTON, DC CONFIRMED&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But, the crucial question has to be, is Stevens wearing his lucky tie and running to escape across “his” bridge to nowhere?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What’s the matter here? Can’t a Gooper even depend on his buds in the WH to intervene and prevent the FBI from interfering in a state’s rights issue?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Something seems to have broken loose in the entire Gooper world?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wonder, who was with Roberts when this ’seizure’/&#039;falling down’ happened? I mean, was he supposed to fall in the water while having the seizure or were they returning home from a boat ride or what?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By Jove, I never thought of that one. Perchance, Roberts is to er….liberal for king George. Puts me in mind of a James Thurber story, though I forgot the name of it, where the punch line is “Oh, my God, he fell out the window.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-859991"><em>MarkH @ 219</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-859499"><em>TeddySanFran @ 128</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Breaking News on <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/">ABCnews.com</a>: FBI AND IRS ARE EXECUTING A SEARCH WARRANT OF ALASKA SEN. TED STEVENS’ HOME, AUTHORITIES IN WASHINGTON, DC CONFIRMED</p>
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<p>But, the crucial question has to be, is Stevens wearing his lucky tie and running to escape across “his” bridge to nowhere?</p>
<p>What’s the matter here? Can’t a Gooper even depend on his buds in the WH to intervene and prevent the FBI from interfering in a state’s rights issue?</p>
<p>Something seems to have broken loose in the entire Gooper world?</p>
<p>I wonder, who was with Roberts when this ’seizure’/&#8217;falling down’ happened? I mean, was he supposed to fall in the water while having the seizure or were they returning home from a boat ride or what?</p>
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<p>By Jove, I never thought of that one. Perchance, Roberts is to er….liberal for king George. Puts me in mind of a James Thurber story, though I forgot the name of it, where the punch line is “Oh, my God, he fell out the window.”</p>
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		<title>By: cynic</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/status-quo-no-thanks/#comment-860353</link>
		<dc:creator>cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 03:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Many years ago, when I was in the military, walked into an intellegence operation (yes, I did have a clearance) and I saw a large sign in the lobby. “Grab them by the balls and their minds will follow.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Dems need to do a little more of that. Hillary forgot that lesson when she pitched health care the first time. Hope she’s learned it this time.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many years ago, when I was in the military, walked into an intellegence operation (yes, I did have a clearance) and I saw a large sign in the lobby. “Grab them by the balls and their minds will follow.”</p>
<p>The Dems need to do a little more of that. Hillary forgot that lesson when she pitched health care the first time. Hope she’s learned it this time.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/status-quo-no-thanks/#comment-859991</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 01:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-859499&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TeddySanFran @ 128&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Breaking News on &lt;a href=&quot;http://abcnews.go.com/&quot;&gt;ABCnews.com&lt;/a&gt;: FBI AND IRS ARE EXECUTING A SEARCH WARRANT OF ALASKA SEN. TED STEVENS’ HOME, AUTHORITIES IN WASHINGTON, DC CONFIRMED&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But, the crucial question has to be, is Stevens wearing his lucky tie and running to escape across “his” bridge to nowhere?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What’s the matter here? Can’t a Gooper even depend on his buds in the WH to intervene and prevent the FBI from interfering in a state’s rights issue?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Something seems to have broken loose in the entire Gooper world?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wonder, who was with Roberts when this ’seizure’/&#039;falling down’ happened? I mean, was he supposed to fall in the water while having the seizure or were they returning home from a boat ride or what?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-859499"><em>TeddySanFran @ 128</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Breaking News on <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/">ABCnews.com</a>: FBI AND IRS ARE EXECUTING A SEARCH WARRANT OF ALASKA SEN. TED STEVENS’ HOME, AUTHORITIES IN WASHINGTON, DC CONFIRMED</p>
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<p>But, the crucial question has to be, is Stevens wearing his lucky tie and running to escape across “his” bridge to nowhere?</p>
<p>What’s the matter here? Can’t a Gooper even depend on his buds in the WH to intervene and prevent the FBI from interfering in a state’s rights issue?</p>
<p>Something seems to have broken loose in the entire Gooper world?</p>
<p>I wonder, who was with Roberts when this ’seizure’/&#8217;falling down’ happened? I mean, was he supposed to fall in the water while having the seizure or were they returning home from a boat ride or what?</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/30/status-quo-no-thanks/#comment-859951</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 01:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-859492&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Prairie Sunshine @ 121&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jan Crawford Greenburg reporting to Gibson eyewitness reporting that Roberts was foaming at the mouth.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No, I did not make that up.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s really sad. He seemed, Gooperishness aside, like a pretty nice guy. This will not look good on his resume.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Incidentally, now we see Roberts might be having trouble with his brain, Cheney recently went in for a new heart and Bush had a colonoscopy (for what?). What kinda crazy Wizard of Oz story is this? And, which one plays the ‘wicked witch’?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-859492"><em>Prairie Sunshine @ 121</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Jan Crawford Greenburg reporting to Gibson eyewitness reporting that Roberts was foaming at the mouth.</p>
<p>No, I did not make that up.</p>
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<p>That’s really sad. He seemed, Gooperishness aside, like a pretty nice guy. This will not look good on his resume.</p>
<p>Incidentally, now we see Roberts might be having trouble with his brain, Cheney recently went in for a new heart and Bush had a colonoscopy (for what?). What kinda crazy Wizard of Oz story is this? And, which one plays the ‘wicked witch’?</p>
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