Thanks {{{{Jane}}}} for skewering the fella so deftly. Hope you’re feeling better these days.
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we may argue with interpratation of scripture but we should heed the message and dont harass those who do. all scripture are inspired of god and if we disregard its message we have nothing to gain but everything to lose. history is full of it

Sal, the Old Testament is a work of fiction, political propaganda, written about 650-600 BC. There is a wealth of archaeological evidence to prove that. ‘The View from Mount Nebo’ and ‘Te Bible Unearthed’ are good books to read about it.

Every time you have posted you have seemed sweet reason and have then written bull shit.

Were I not ill I should have responded long since.

Israel is even less a democracy than the US (a plutocracy masquerading as one) — examine the state of the resident Moslems and Christians.

In 1967 Israel was the aggressor. Israel had planned that aggression for when the tunnel from the conjunction of the Jordan and Yarmuk rivers was finished. Israel follows what it learnt from Goebbels, — lie grandiosely and repeatedly and you will be believed.

You do know, do you, that “Israel” was an organized society of Palestinians (Canaanites) before the Hebrews even existed let alone the Jews?

The world-wide loathing of the US began as much as for any reason when Israel destroyed the USS Liberty and Lyndon Johnson, being in the pocket of The Lobby, known as A*P*C, did nothing. BTW, the Liberty as destroyed because it was recording Israel’s murder of captured Egyptian soldiers because they could not be bothered to feed them.

It is utter idiocy to suggest that GW Bush has done much for the Palestinians. Every US president has a single ample opportunity to change the US economic future to give it a chance to change from its present path towards collapse. That change is to stop listening to the lying propaganda from the Israel lobby and to stop giving, what, a country about as big as New Jersey, populated, now, largely by Russians, so much money.

If the US were to demand repayment of the loans of trillions and stops giving these terrorist immigrants any more money, the suppurating boil which is ‘Israel’ will disappear.

To concentrate readers’ attentions here are some quotes from Israeli/Jews leaders for your delectation.

Hitler and Himmler would not have dared utter the following sentiments outside a room of totally committed Party members. These people are so low-grade and arrogant they are quite happy to say such things in public,

“It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization, or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands.”
– Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.
“Everybody has to move, run and grab as many (Palestinian) hilltops as they can to enlarge the (Jewish) settlements because everything we take now will stay ours…Everything we don’t grab will go to them.”
– Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of the Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, Nov. 15, 1998.
“Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on trial.”
– Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 25 March, 2001 quoted in BBC News Online
“If we thought that instead of 200 Palestinian fatalities, 2,000 dead would put an end to the fighting at a stroke, we would use much more force….”
– Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, quoted in Associated Press, November 16, 2000.
“I would have joined a terrorist organization.”
– Ehud Barak’s response to Gideon Levy, a columnist for the Ha’aretz newspaper, when Barak was asked what he would have done if he had been born a Palestinian.
“Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China, when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories.”
– Benyamin Netanyahu, then Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister, former Prime Minister of Israel, speaking to students at Bar Ilan University, from the Israeli journal Hotam, November 24, 1989.
“(The Palestinians) would be crushed like grasshoppers … heads smashed against the boulders and walls.”
– Israeli Prime Minister (at the time) Yitzhak Shamir in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988.
Wearing his other hat — terrorist, Yitzak Shamir murdered Count Bernadotte, the UN Representative, in King George Avenue in Jerusalem, in 1948. You know, that same Bernadotte who saved thousands of Jews from the Germans.

“[The Palestinians] are beasts walking on two legs.”
– Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, “Begin and the ‘Beasts,”‘ New Statesman, June 25, 1982.
(The King David Hotel in Jerusalem was blown up by Menachem Begin in 1946. Those murders, which he proudly owned, caused him never to land in London on his travels to Camp David for fear of arrest on his own admission. And, BTW, the King David was owned by an old old Egypt and Palestine-dwelling Jewish family called Moseri. They had probably evacuated to Egypt in 70-77AD!)
“We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?’ Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said ‘Drive them out!”
– Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.
“[Israel will] create in the course of the next 10 or 20 years conditions which would attract natural and voluntary migration of the refugees from the Gaza Strip and the west Bank to Jordan. To achieve this we have to come to agreement with King Hussein and not with Yasser Arafat.”
– Yitzhak Rabin (a “Prince of Peace” by Clinton’s standards), explaining his method of ethnically cleansing the occupied land without stirring a world outcry. (Quoted in David Shipler in the New York Times, 04/04/1983 citing Meir Cohen’s remarks to the Knesset’s foreign affairs and defense committee on March 16.)
“There is no such thing as a Palestinian people… It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn’t exist.”
– Golda Meir, statement to The Sunday Times, 15 June, 1969.
“Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population.”
– David Ben Gurion, quoted in The Jewish Paradox, by Nahum Goldmann, Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1978, p. 99.
“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country.”
– David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.
“We must expel Arabs and take their places.”
– David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.
“We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population.”
– David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.