I am completely flummoxed by the dynamics of this whole Dem presidential primary, particularly Clinton and Joe-Bama, who I always considered peas in a pod.

Edwards — seeing the big picture and leading the way

Clinton & Obama…not so much

As for the content of the post, you’re never going to win hearts and minds if you’re unwilling to talk to those who disagree with us. We now have Romney and McCain chiming in on Hillary’s side of the argument. What does that tell ya? I know what it tells me.

I also know what Hillary’s “it’ll take a month to get each brigade out” answer during the debate means. With 15 to 20 brigades in the country she’d take a year and a half to end the war in Iraq.

The more I see of Hillary the more I see of the triangulating manipulator trying to appeal to the Dick Morris’s of the world who are never going to vote for her anyway instead of moving with the rest of the country to the sensible left.

I for one refuse to give the Clintons a second chance. Their 8 years were an utter waste of this country’s time and resources. Nothing progressive was done and the Clintons revealed themselves as simply nothing more than petty office seekers and careerists. Gore has always been something of a pathetic figure to me, forced into politics by his parents without the intellectual capacity to figure out what makes him happy and to go for it which is clearly not politics.

My particular intolerance of the Clintons come from knowing Bill Clinton and their cohorts way back when in the McGovern campaign when it was clear to me that many in that campaign (Hart and Clinton) were going to be unimaginative careerists who had avoided any direct consequence of the Vietnam war operating from an elitist perch.

HRC is an utter waste of time. I am not interested in her petty goals. She cannot write well, she cannot think independently and she is goddamn boring.

Don’t forget, Rethugs no longer control Ohio.

…and we need to remember to keep a 24/7 eye on Kitty Harris down in FL :).. what’s she doing now anyway?

It seems that both the author and the commentators have lost sight of the fact that Hillary and Obama are running against each other for the nomination. This is exactly the sort of conflict that Obama needs to separtate himself from Clinton without initiating the attack himself. She offered him an excellent opportunity to liken her to Bush and remind voters of her support for the war.

Primary candidates have to spar with each other – that’s why we have these debates. I would be happy to see them engage more often like this – especially since this is an actual issue and their differing positions are nuanced disagreements, not personally destructive attacks. Although Hillary’s irresponsible and naive were perhaps a bit below the belt.

Of course they may need to spar with each other when there are genuine disagreements — but there was none here once you understand that the question had multiple parts and each candidate chose to respond to a different part — not give different answers to the same part.

Hillary is free is suggest Obama has less experience than she, but his response decrying the Bush propensity not to talk to anyone on the “evil” side of his duality way of thinking was not an honest vehicle for that — and in the process, she managed to give cover to Bush’s intransigence.

Obama is free to call into question Hillary’s judgment wrt to the Iraq vote as a way of saying experience is not everything; judgment and instinct matter, too. But her response to the would you talk to them question was not the vehicle for making that point. I don’t disagree that once she attacked him for inexperience/judgment, he had to respond with something. But if your response is that you’re competent and have good judgment, you can’t convince people by sending out Axelrod on national tv. And anyone could have told him that.

Mojo @ 111

Gore/Edwards ‘08…

Best ticket, for me at least…

This should lead to a wipe out of the rethugs for at least a few election cycles..

First thing they need to do is get rid of Diebold and ChoicePoint (voter roll scrubbers) to restore faith in our elections..

BINGO! A real dream ticket, which would lead to an absolute landslide of a victory for the Dems. Gore is amazing at being Gore, when he is not being “handled,” & Edwards is also good at being Edwards.

Run Al, run!!!!!

Don’t forget, Rethugs no longer control Ohio.