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		<title>By: Dean</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/26/omerta/#comment-850313</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 16:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Here’s a tip for Bush Administration cronies:  if you are going to lie under oath, on the record, with a video camera in your face, don’t lie about something for which there is documentary evidence directly contradicting your statements.  It makes you look unprepared, panicked and sloppy.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just a quick comment on this (probably dead) thread. IMO this isn’t a matter of being “unprepared”, Abu just didn’t care. In his mind(and mine also) why should he. Far from being “panicked”, he was sneeringly lying his ass off. That’s where the “omerta” comes in, he’s sure(as am I) that there’ll be few consequences. If there is the Neo-con family will take care of him and his. “Sloppy”, yeah probably but why not, these thugs have suffered no problems from anything they’ve done(yet). After seeing them commit breathtaking shit since day one, with no ill affects, I tend to think they’re right. That was the reason lil’ Abu sneered his way through those questions from those pesky peasants in Congress. He holds them in complete contempt. And since they’ve let this kind of mockery go on, and on, ad nausiam, I don’t think much better of them myself. Neither does most of the rest of America. We’ll see.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>Just a quick comment on this (probably dead) thread. IMO this isn’t a matter of being “unprepared”, Abu just didn’t care. In his mind(and mine also) why should he. Far from being “panicked”, he was sneeringly lying his ass off. That’s where the “omerta” comes in, he’s sure(as am I) that there’ll be few consequences. If there is the Neo-con family will take care of him and his. “Sloppy”, yeah probably but why not, these thugs have suffered no problems from anything they’ve done(yet). After seeing them commit breathtaking shit since day one, with no ill affects, I tend to think they’re right. That was the reason lil’ Abu sneered his way through those questions from those pesky peasants in Congress. He holds them in complete contempt. And since they’ve let this kind of mockery go on, and on, ad nausiam, I don’t think much better of them myself. Neither does most of the rest of America. We’ll see.</p>
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		<title>By: Jano</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/26/omerta/#comment-850045</link>
		<dc:creator>Jano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m reminded of the cartoon with the buzzard sulking in a tree and the caption “Patience my ass, I want to kill something.” Nancy P. is wrong about impeachment. Democrats must stand  for what they believe in. Sweet Jesus, if not not now when? There’s a serious fight brewing in this country and we need to have it. Go along to git along won’t do.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m reminded of the cartoon with the buzzard sulking in a tree and the caption “Patience my ass, I want to kill something.” Nancy P. is wrong about impeachment. Democrats must stand  for what they believe in. Sweet Jesus, if not not now when? There’s a serious fight brewing in this country and we need to have it. Go along to git along won’t do.</p>
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		<title>By: itwasntme</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/26/omerta/#comment-849999</link>
		<dc:creator>itwasntme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Late as usual to thread:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Last night Olberman had a great idea and implemented it:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;big, loud graphic: “Crisis in the White House”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;did anybody else notice? Part sarcasism, part truth.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late as usual to thread:</p>
<p>Last night Olberman had a great idea and implemented it:</p>
<p>big, loud graphic: “Crisis in the White House”</p>
<p>did anybody else notice? Part sarcasism, part truth.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/26/omerta/#comment-849997</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-849791&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;realworld @ 148&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-849755&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Christy Hardin Smith @ 114&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;dratty — See my response on that above.  A temproary fill is one thing, but a permanant seat cannot be achieved for a constitutional officer without advice and consent — which Brennan had to undergo, as I remember my court history (which, admittedly, I haven’t exactly been reading nonstop of late!), once Congress was in session.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hi Christy, but a temporary fill is as good as a real one. I think the more interesting question is, Why would Gozo resign? The only reason I can think of is to avoid impeachment. The cost to him of being impeached would be that &lt;strike&gt;it would be a blot on his honor&lt;/strike&gt; since he has no honor, is that there would be a real question as to whether he could then be pardoned. There are grounds to argue that you can not be pardoned if you are first impeached and convicted by the Senate, and then convicted in a court of the same charges for which you were impeached. No precedents here but some scholarship seems to say you get a pardon for what you were impeached for. Boy would I like to see him in the big house.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There are a number of Op Atty Gen that address recess appointments and what does and does not constitute a recess. According to 33 Op. Att’y Gen 20, 25 (1921) short adjournments “for 5 or even ten days” do not “constitute the recess intended by the Constitution. Also see 3 O.L.C. 311, 314 (1979).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would feel much more comfortable given this administration’s proclivity for provocative behavior in the area of recess appointments, if Reid would keep the Senate in session during August even if it means just keeping enough Dems around to keep the body functioning.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-849791"><em>realworld @ 148</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-849755"><em>Christy Hardin Smith @ 114</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>dratty — See my response on that above.  A temproary fill is one thing, but a permanant seat cannot be achieved for a constitutional officer without advice and consent — which Brennan had to undergo, as I remember my court history (which, admittedly, I haven’t exactly been reading nonstop of late!), once Congress was in session.</p>
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<p>Hi Christy, but a temporary fill is as good as a real one. I think the more interesting question is, Why would Gozo resign? The only reason I can think of is to avoid impeachment. The cost to him of being impeached would be that <strike>it would be a blot on his honor</strike> since he has no honor, is that there would be a real question as to whether he could then be pardoned. There are grounds to argue that you can not be pardoned if you are first impeached and convicted by the Senate, and then convicted in a court of the same charges for which you were impeached. No precedents here but some scholarship seems to say you get a pardon for what you were impeached for. Boy would I like to see him in the big house.</p>
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<p>There are a number of Op Atty Gen that address recess appointments and what does and does not constitute a recess. According to 33 Op. Att’y Gen 20, 25 (1921) short adjournments “for 5 or even ten days” do not “constitute the recess intended by the Constitution. Also see 3 O.L.C. 311, 314 (1979).</p>
<p>I would feel much more comfortable given this administration’s proclivity for provocative behavior in the area of recess appointments, if Reid would keep the Senate in session during August even if it means just keeping enough Dems around to keep the body functioning.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/26/omerta/#comment-849936</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-849691&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Imavehmontah @ 53&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Christy, this piece is exactly on target. Perhaps we can wake up in time to save ourselves from the impending nightmare of our values being snatched from us while we worried about how to buy more “stuff”. The Bush administration has been very clever in very many ways. Cheney’s secret administration, pulling the strings from behind the curtains comes to mind. The “volunteer” army, fueled by the newly swelled ranks of Americans impoverished by trickle down economics. The systematic replacement of competent middle managers at the DOJ, out of the sight of all of use until the dismissals came to light. When you put the pieces together, it is a compelling and chilling story.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I sense that an awakening is in progress. Maybe there is still time for impeachment to save us. I hope that people like Jon Stewart and Keith Olbermann and Christy can keep the pot boiling until we are ready to tackle the hard work ahead. Impeachment. Now. It’s the only thing that can save us.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I keep asking myself, “What if Bush and Co. isn’t incompetent and bumbling? What if this was all a planned event to distract us? What if they are really just PLAIN EVIL and deceptive?” We have made the assumption all along that deep down, they fundamentally believed in the same American values as the majority of Americans. What if we were wrong?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What if????&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I never operated from the belief that a Bush, any Bush, had America’s best interests at heart.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have detested the Bush family since Poppy was a congressman. Snivelling, whining, wimpy, opportunistic fucks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And that’s the men.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-849691"><em>Imavehmontah @ 53</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Christy, this piece is exactly on target. Perhaps we can wake up in time to save ourselves from the impending nightmare of our values being snatched from us while we worried about how to buy more “stuff”. The Bush administration has been very clever in very many ways. Cheney’s secret administration, pulling the strings from behind the curtains comes to mind. The “volunteer” army, fueled by the newly swelled ranks of Americans impoverished by trickle down economics. The systematic replacement of competent middle managers at the DOJ, out of the sight of all of use until the dismissals came to light. When you put the pieces together, it is a compelling and chilling story.</p>
<p>I sense that an awakening is in progress. Maybe there is still time for impeachment to save us. I hope that people like Jon Stewart and Keith Olbermann and Christy can keep the pot boiling until we are ready to tackle the hard work ahead. Impeachment. Now. It’s the only thing that can save us.</p>
<p>I keep asking myself, “What if Bush and Co. isn’t incompetent and bumbling? What if this was all a planned event to distract us? What if they are really just PLAIN EVIL and deceptive?” We have made the assumption all along that deep down, they fundamentally believed in the same American values as the majority of Americans. What if we were wrong?</p>
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<p>What if????</p>
<p>I never operated from the belief that a Bush, any Bush, had America’s best interests at heart.</p>
<p>I have detested the Bush family since Poppy was a congressman. Snivelling, whining, wimpy, opportunistic fucks.</p>
<p>And that’s the men.</p>
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		<title>By: portia.vz</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/26/omerta/#comment-849874</link>
		<dc:creator>portia.vz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And you are right about the conditions the WH is offering for the testimony of Miers, Bolten and Taylor.  There is a lack of consistency here as well.  If executive privelege is so sacrosanct, then the offer of any cooperation at all would seem to be unnecessary from the White House POV.  There’s no reason why Miers et al should talk to the Judiciary committee at all.  So, why make the offer?  I think it’s because they know they can’t win the executive privelege argument so they are trying to make it look like the only way to get info before the clock runs out is for Leahy to take a worthless deal.&lt;br /&gt;
But it’s really all or nothing.  If you’re interested in the truth, the WH condidtions are unacceptable.  So, force them to defend themselves in court or skip the formalities and charge them with inherent contempt.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you are right about the conditions the WH is offering for the testimony of Miers, Bolten and Taylor.  There is a lack of consistency here as well.  If executive privelege is so sacrosanct, then the offer of any cooperation at all would seem to be unnecessary from the White House POV.  There’s no reason why Miers et al should talk to the Judiciary committee at all.  So, why make the offer?  I think it’s because they know they can’t win the executive privelege argument so they are trying to make it look like the only way to get info before the clock runs out is for Leahy to take a worthless deal.<br />
But it’s really all or nothing.  If you’re interested in the truth, the WH condidtions are unacceptable.  So, force them to defend themselves in court or skip the formalities and charge them with inherent contempt.</p>
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		<title>By: portia.vz</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/26/omerta/#comment-849860</link>
		<dc:creator>portia.vz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gonzo was bound to slip up.  The Stasi agent in The Lives of Others explained it this way: if you are telling the truth, you can tell it many different ways from many angles but it is always the truth and the story is always consistent.  When you’re lying, you can only tell the story *one* way.  The repetition is what gives away the liar.  Once they have been forced to go over the story from many different angles, over and over again, the repetition gets harder and harder to maintain.  Eventually, the liar slips up.&lt;br /&gt;
He slipped up a LOT yesterday.  The clips that Jon Stewart played yesterday featuring Gonzo and Diane Feinstein were just as devastating.&lt;br /&gt;
It was inevitable.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gonzo was bound to slip up.  The Stasi agent in The Lives of Others explained it this way: if you are telling the truth, you can tell it many different ways from many angles but it is always the truth and the story is always consistent.  When you’re lying, you can only tell the story *one* way.  The repetition is what gives away the liar.  Once they have been forced to go over the story from many different angles, over and over again, the repetition gets harder and harder to maintain.  Eventually, the liar slips up.<br />
He slipped up a LOT yesterday.  The clips that Jon Stewart played yesterday featuring Gonzo and Diane Feinstein were just as devastating.<br />
It was inevitable.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Kunin</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/26/omerta/#comment-849858</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Kunin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Christy @ 70&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The rationalization of keeping your powder dry keeps people from doing much of anything other than what they have been doing. The concentration camp guard justifies his remaining on the job because he doesn’t hit as hard as the other guys. Besides that’s not the kind of job one quits. Honor sometimes requires more guts than most of us have.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Suppose, for example, Bush and Cheney decide to bomb Iran, an action I believe puts our personnel in Iraq at risk of a total wipeout. Would our generals tell the administration to pound sand or would they order the attack? Past behavior is not hopeful. Most high ranking generals thought the Iraq invasion ill advised, but they went along anyhow. What would you do were you a general? What would I do? I know what I hope I’d do, but I’m not sure I would.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christy @ 70</p>
<p>The rationalization of keeping your powder dry keeps people from doing much of anything other than what they have been doing. The concentration camp guard justifies his remaining on the job because he doesn’t hit as hard as the other guys. Besides that’s not the kind of job one quits. Honor sometimes requires more guts than most of us have.</p>
<p>Suppose, for example, Bush and Cheney decide to bomb Iran, an action I believe puts our personnel in Iraq at risk of a total wipeout. Would our generals tell the administration to pound sand or would they order the attack? Past behavior is not hopeful. Most high ranking generals thought the Iraq invasion ill advised, but they went along anyhow. What would you do were you a general? What would I do? I know what I hope I’d do, but I’m not sure I would.</p>
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		<title>By: Christy Hardin Smith</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/26/omerta/#comment-849846</link>
		<dc:creator>Christy Hardin Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;LS at 176 — The House Judiciary Committee did.  I liveblogged the hearing yesterday.  But it then has to go to the full House for a vote…which won’t be scheduled until September we heard yesterday.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LS at 176 — The House Judiciary Committee did.  I liveblogged the hearing yesterday.  But it then has to go to the full House for a vote…which won’t be scheduled until September we heard yesterday.</p>
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		<title>By: TiredFed</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/26/omerta/#comment-849845</link>
		<dc:creator>TiredFed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-849839&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Sally @ 187&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;TiredFed @ 116, gracias.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The piecemill information we get is almost impossible for me to make whole.  For instance, what is the actual story on the before, during, and after of the hospital story?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;absolutely. I want the truth, the WHOLE truth, and nothing but the truth. My reaction to Gonzo’s latest tidbit about the meeting with the gang of 8 just before going to the hospital was: wtf? is he really that dumb to tell us this now? I was astounded. Thank goodness he is really that dumb.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-849839"><em>Sally @ 187</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>TiredFed @ 116, gracias.  </p>
<p>The piecemill information we get is almost impossible for me to make whole.  For instance, what is the actual story on the before, during, and after of the hospital story?</p>
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<p>absolutely. I want the truth, the WHOLE truth, and nothing but the truth. My reaction to Gonzo’s latest tidbit about the meeting with the gang of 8 just before going to the hospital was: wtf? is he really that dumb to tell us this now? I was astounded. Thank goodness he is really that dumb.</p>
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