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What, did he install Windows Vista on it?
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lolo and TRex! Suzanne!
trex
zed?
almost Tex!
…good evening! Is what I meant to write.
Weeha! Zed-not!
Check this out. Maybe the cursor guys just got too tired to get to the space station.( wait for it to load, them move your mouse over the white space)
I thought I would just jump in here early to let people know about the server restart.
Did someone let them know downstairs that we’re up here?
all hail the Vista’ll Vergings
TRex @ 6
Nope. Keeping a small room.
now let downstairs know you got the zed loohoo
TRex @ 6
Yup.
Suzanne @ 10
Next time I get a Zed it will be a straight Suz!
NYT’s Editorial
Seeking the Truth About Pat Tillman
Published: July 27, 2007
The Pentagon indicated yesterday that several high-ranking officers will soon be punished for misleading investigators probing the 2004 death of Cpl. Pat Tillman, the Army Ranger who became an icon in the administration’s war on terror but who was later found to have been killed by friendly fire. While this could provide a measure of accountability, it should not stop Representative Henry A. Waxman from pursuing his dogged efforts to get to the bottom of this convoluted and troubling case.
…
LINK
thanks for the honor, loohoo
a comment posted before the server outage:
Hi.
See you all on the other side of the outage.
Hi, facebook pal, yj!
Hi TRex and Suzanne!!!
Anything for a diversion, I guess.
I’m just lurkin for awhile.
Hope everyone is well and enjoying things even work.
Suzanne @ 224
Well :)
I had delayed a major research project until after the elections because I knew my activism would be important, and I stayed on-line right down to the wire. A few days after the election, Yahoo pulled their dicussion boards (I was a big part of this)… I posted many long hours in suppression of right wing crazies and sent not a few to the DoJ and FBI for promoting hate crimes, terror threats, etc. Yahoo hosted one of the most virulent wingnut communities I have ever seen anywhere, hardcore Fascists.
I took names, kicked ass, and buried em deep.
But then I had to start my research, which meant relocating, new lab, set up, and the inevitable delay after delay. Because of the nature of the work, I can’t keep electronic equipment on site, and getting internet access at a remote location took time.
I have been reading along for several days, and got the urge to take some more pokes ;)
“let me get some action from the back section”
Beastie Boys, heh. in that category of “so bad they’re sometimes good”. Sabotage is a great song.
*strapping in with 5pt safety harness in the mod tower for the reboot*
Through Executive Order Bush Takes Control of Science at the Federal Level
From Press Esc:
Through an Executive Order that gives political appointees final say regarding science-based federal agency regulations and the appointment of an anti-educationist to head the Office of Management and Budget, US President George W. Bush is attempting to insulate his administration from congressional accountability while effectively turning federal scientists into White House puppets, a group of scientists warned today.
Union if Concerned Scientists and OMB Watch urged Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Chair Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.) to question the President’s nominee US Rep. Jim Nussle (R-Iowa) on his opinion of Bush administration Executive Order 13422, which goes into effect today. -More
Suzanne @ 21
i got strapped in just in time.. welcome back everyone
“we’re half awake in a fake empire”
Strap on your helmuts and take your drammamine. World markets seem to reacting a bit to the US markets.
-GSD
Wooo-hoooo!
(waves hat riding old software, receding into background..
as seen from fuselage…..)
Ooops – wrong frame.
Howdy pups!
Breaking news – Alaska Senator Ted Stevens caught on Cape Canaveral video surveillance cameras cutting toobz in computer destined for space shuttle Endeavor.
kirk murphy @ 26
hey kirk… (still chuckling at that mental picture)
are we back?
Thanks, Loo Hoo.
I had a 2nd interview this am for the non-profit exec assit to the ceo gig, then spent the rest of the day following All Of The News. Big Day.
(also, still recovering)
Re: Greenwald’s video: I’m proud to be part of this Most Controversial Site.
hey oc, how ya been
GSD @ 25
Only one in the green is Norway…
Me3 at 19,
A few years ago, I used to post on Washington Watch. Was that where you were? Your description sounds about right.
Hi everyone!!!
Didn’t mean to be rude b4 but I wanted to get my greeting in under the wire.
Ed*ard Teller @ 27
Ha! I see your other senator is selling her land back to the original owner over at tpm.
Suzanne @ 31
I’ve been OK – how ’bout you, Suzanne?
demi, send me your email, that was part of the problem… you have mine correct? i had two email addresses for you in my personal address book and not sure which one was the correct one…
james @ 34
how ya doing james
I’ll go send it now.
OldCoastie @ 36
here every nite, rain or shine – the little cottage by the creek in the redwoods hasn’t sold yet – so life is still on hold.
Loo Hoo. @ 35
It’s called catch and release up here…
It’s called catch and release up here…
spew
I forwarded your message to demi, Suz.
Suzanne @ 42
hooked ya! you can go now.
I see the Lake’s back in action!
we got it all straightened out now, loohoo, thanks for your help.
Suzanne @ 38
Coastin’
Got my eleven year old son for a few days….Simpsons Movie time!!!
I sympathize with you Suzanne – lotta folks trying to sell around here (Orange County) and stuff is sitting forever, with more and more for sale signs going up each week… tough market right now…
but your place is gorgeous – you’ll get the right buyer soon.
Damn Norwegians better get on board this global market meltdown dammit.
I wonder what tomorrow has in store for the US markets?
-GSD
P.S. Must be some changes coming down the pike, there is open criticism of Saudi Arabia by US sources in the NYTimes. Et tu Abdullah?
Margot @ 33
Nope that was not Me3 ;)
Yahoo maintained running news threads all the way up until shortly after the elections. It was a lot more “mainstream” and the number of posts were very high… Over 2 million posts on the Iraq war when they canned the boards there.
First there was a civil lawsuit, which was lost. Then a number of wingnuts were criminally investigated… It got too hot for Yahoo, and they finally pulled the plug. Game Over.
I play a much meaner game than the wingnuts, truth is on our side, and I did not pull punches in shutting the GOP propaganda machine and their paid posters down and out.
james, thank for the facebook handcuffs – they will come in handy around here one night i’m sure (and no, ct, that does not mean you)
In AZ they just fire the US Attorney so that the crooks can get away with it…..
Lets see…..
JD Hayworth took more money than anyone from Abramoff, Renzi was under investigation for bogus land deals, Kolbe for rafting trips down the Colorado with Congressional Pages… Kolbe has been cleared & who knows if they will ever get the other two..
GSD @ 49
This ain’t nothing. Wait until this goddamn war ends and the bogus markets disappear. I’m on a pension and I ain’t looking forward to living on a fixed income in the near future with what’s waiting for us.
Maybe we need to boycott sardines so those easy living Norwegians can suffer through this global pain with the rest of us, huh??
Has anyone seen TRex since the reboot? I sure hope he did not get his tail stuck in the automatic gates again…
Suzanne @ 51
Durn It!!! :P
kirk murphy @ 26
“Mr. President, we cannot allow a mine shaft gap!”
Suzanne @ 51
I remember a night on the upper west side with a little NYC ballet dancer and some whipped cream….I woke up cuffed to a radiator and had to call the precinct for someone to undo me…she left with the key!!
I was a legend after that.
Great sense of humor that one.
Did you know that CNN actually does news in their international feed? Gee there was real stories with follow up questions, indepth investigation about the issues AND they even trashed Bush over and over again…. It was a jaw dropping moment!
James, have a wonderful time with you son!
james @ 57
707
Loo Hoo. @ 17
hi facebook pal!
how’s lh?
I thought TRex was on his way home. Could be a minute, tho. And then he makes supper, no? Those cute hungry therapods.
Ed*ard Teller @ 44
Loo Hoo. @ 32
what sayeth Alan Greenspawn?
Loo Hoo. @ 59
Thanks, loo hoo.
We have the greatest times together. I got him hooked on old SNL skits from the first season and Alf.
His mom never knows what to expect when he gets home.
OldCoastie @ 48
There’s a foreclosure a couple of blocks from me (in Orange) that’s been on the market for at least four months. Neat house, with a pool, walking distance to elementary and middle schools, and no one is even looking at it. Scary.
katymine @ 52
Someone said yesterday that there is a recall in the works for McCain. Heard anything, Katymine?
Night all.
My boy will be up early.
Somn usor.
Ed*ard Teller @ 41
LOL
May I brag?
If anyone wants to see a pix of my daughter and pug grandson, click here.
burnspbesq @ 65
oh sure, let’s give suzanne nitemares tonight. and tomorrow nite.
TRex’s Rapture Baiters post earlier Thursday was quite good. I was outside working on mom’s huge lawns when it happened, so I missed all but the end. I just discovered an excellent column on the issue by Nation writer, Philip Weiss, at Phil’s blog, mondoweiss. (full disclosure – Phil Weiss has written positively about my music in the past)
I’m linking to his site rather than to his post, because just below the post itself, Weiss has posted what appears to be the beginning of a dialogue between Weiss and Glenn Greenwald on this, and, I hope, the subject of Jewish identity. I tried to get Weiss and fdl hooked up together last winter. We’ll see. He’s one of the best writers who also blogs, on the new left.
ooops. it didn’t work. nevermind. I’ll figure it out later.
sorry.
The economic reporting about the markets when I was in Athens was very concerned about the sub-prime lending, housing, mortgage and foreclosures effecting the EU markets. Lots of hand wringing and discussion about it and how to prevent it from dragging down their markets.
Also lots of ads for investing companies who DO NOT invest in the US housing/mortgage segment. Makes ya proud to be an American….
Loo Hoo. @ 66
This one I know something about. The man seeking the recall is a returned Iraq War vet. Give me two minutes to run down his name and blogsite.
nah, Suzanne – no nightmares… you are going to get something soon.
you know how sometimes editing of the quote function can lead to mistaken attributions? (faux-nesting)…
a certain moderator may be keeping an eye on #57.
Suzanne @ 70
Every day that your place doesn’t sell is a day on which you could win the lottery and not have to move ;-)
yellowdog jim @ 61
Doing fine. It’s finally getting warm here in SD. It’s been a bizarrely cool summer. Nice, but unusual.
burnspbesq @ 65
Part of today’s massive drop was based on the Housing market’s dramatic drop in both new home sales and existing home sales!
punaise @ 63
Alan spake thusly.
Holy smokes.
ME3, haven’t seen you in a long time.
-GSD
Leonard Clark is the man who is hoping to unseat McCain in a recall.
Why McCain needs to be Recalled
Thanks everyone for expressing an interest in the recall effort down here in
Arizona of the Flip Flopper John McCain.
Many have said that “bloody John” McCain has gone off the deep end on
the
contrary, he has not gone off the deep end, he is in fact part of an American
Cabal that wants Monarchy (a king) to rule through the so-called Unitary
Executive Theory in the United Staes of America.
He along with this cabal of men and women Neo-Cons who are joined at the hip
with the Military Industrial Complex have and are plotting in traitorous
fashion for future monarchist presidents such as George Bush to have the powers
of a king.
Now, I know that this seems far fetched but who would have thought 6 years
ago that our country would have been betrayed by those hooligans in the White
House and in the Executive Branch?
A strong story is circulating about Washington D.C. that a certain cabal of
generals (who care not for the U.S. Constitution have sworn an oath to follow
George Bush -their king- no matter what happens.
Also, don’t buy for a second the public statements by Vice- President Cheney
(who has committed high crimes against this nation) that he is really pissed
off at Bloody McCain. Afterall, these traitorous scoundrels both it is quiet
clear believe in the Unitary Executive theory.
Now, he (Bloody John McCain) and his fellow anti-American Theocratic Neo-Cons
are on the verge of plotting to start WWIII with Iran. This recall is more
important than we know.
It is true, that many of our friends still remember the old John McCain and
either refuse to listen to the truth about him or just have not heard from us
yet about what he is doing and how is making the rest of the nation and the
world think that we support “Torture”, suspension of Habeas Corpus, The
continued killing of my fellow soldiers in Iraq for his and George Bush’s lie
and the desire for a monarchy.
Please, spread the word far and wide to get people to sign our petitions and
please combat non-violently the monarchist, Neo-Cons, and Fascists who will be
blogging fanatically for their “torture” leader John McCain. We can only
accomplish this huge task before us by working together.
“Power To The People, ‘Cause The People Want Peace” !
N.O. M.A.S. ! Not One More Soldier Should Die In Iraq!
Long Live The Republic !
Leonard Clark
Persian Gulf/Iraq War III Vet
and Chairperson of the Recall of Senator “bloody John” McCain
2-21-07
demi @ 69
Error-not found, Demi.
On topic for a moment:
Amateurs. Vista would have kept them busy for months installing patches.
Mrs. Greenspin said to sell when the markets hit a Mitchell Majority.
-GSD
punaise @ 76
that ball was high and outside… completely over my head pun… huh???
Loo Hoo. @ 83
Cujo359 @ 84
Were the W’s missing from the keyboards too?
-GSD
example
GSD @ 88
If they find a spare, give me mine back – after the Chimp is gone…
punaise @ 89
OH my stars.. now i understand.. (blushing)
Ed*ard Teller @ 80
Heh! Looks like a good sign.
katymine @ 73
While I was overseas during the ’80s I was impressed with the International Herald Tribune, and friends who have been in Europe recently have said that CNN looks like a professional news service over there.
Makes you wonder why they can’t manage that trick over here.
well, punaise… I can see the problem, but it makes for an interesting story either way…
;-)
Breaking News:
Oscar the cat spotted curled up on the Straight Talk Express.
McCain claims news of his campaigns’ death are exaggerated.
-GSD
punaise, that is sick and twisted… i like the way you think (laughing)
OldCoastie @ 94
ohm ice tars!
TexB, I know Leonard and speak to him frequently. He is part of the Veteran Caucus and the Progressive Caucus of our state Dem party. They keep gathering signatures but it is deep monsoon season here so not much action going on right now.
GSD @ 95
so you give it, what, four hours?
Well I have an early start tomorrow. Have an appt with the computer guy at work. Got a CD stuck in my mac’s CD drive and the computer doesn’t know it’s there so won’t let me eject it. Fun fun fun.
Sleep well y’all and enjoy the cookies. Someone should bring them up. I think there was one shaped like a computer.
Night!
Sheila Jackson Lee vs. FBI’s Mueller on C-Span 2 NOW
So long for now…..
GSD @ 88
No. Nor is there any other direct sign of Bush Administration involvement in this sabotage.
BigMitch @ 101
Don’t do that when I need to sleep!
OK. I will stay.
pain free sleep wishes tex
sleep well, demi
Good night Demi.
Night, TexB. Soon….!
demi @ 102
Later.
I’m running Vista on my HP laptop and I love it. I’ve yet to experience any issues with it.
Evening again. Back from my musical outing and ready for some Grade A snark.
tbsa @ 109
famous last words…
DrDick @ 110
Have fun Dr D? Hear anything good?
GSD @ 95
IIRC, in the Dark Ages people believed that cats could suck the life out of people while they were sleeping.
Wonder why he prefers dying people?
TexB @ 100
TexB – reboot and when you hear the chime, hold down the media-eject key on a laptop or the mouse button on a desktop. Should pop out after a short wait.
Pat Tillman’s death and abuse of the truth has really hit the AZ Repugs hard. It is hard to support BushCo when their ASU football hero gets trampled.
It is horrible, feel terrible for the Tillman family but this one military death has exposed the ugly underbelly of this administration and the Iraq war to the local wingnuts to the point that they are also against the war.
GSD @ 95
LOL!!!
GSD @ 95
Can we send him to the White House or at least Cheney’s undisclosed location?
Dr. D. How did it go?
Fred Thompson smells of Aqua Velva, McCain smells like formaldehyde.
Keep the headlights on.
-GSD
“National NSA program” will not say that he is talking about the TSP. Except that he tends to say, “yes” at the end of statements.
Q: Were you talking about the TSP?
A: We were talking about a national NSA program, yes.
newtonusr @ 114
On the powerbook G4?
TexB @ 100
Night Betsy. Good luck with the tech.
BigMitch @ 101
Gitmo and habeus testimony on C-Span 1!
punaise @ 89
I had to transport a prisoner to Anchorage in 1978 or 1979. Rode the train in, with her either cuffed to me or a railing on the train seat. When we got to the station, I called the Anchorage Police to let them know I was in. The prisoner – a female – told me she had to pee. I stupidly uncuffed her, cuffing her to a female friend who volunteered to accompany her. I even more stupidly gave my friend the key.
When they got in the restroom, the prisoner kicked my friend to the ground and pinned her, took the key, uncuffed herself, and escaped out the window. I heard my friend call for help. She was fairly OK and told me to go get the prisoner. I jumped through the window and chased her down in a couple hundred yards. She was nasty, but, she was a lot more tired than me.
When the APD got to the station to transfer her to the jail, one officer, without even hesitating, grabbed the prisoner by the hair, pulled her to the ground and started kicking her, screaming “This is for what you did to me last time, this is for what you did to — last time.” Thinking back, it’s hard to believe I didn’t report the incident in such detail at the time, but I didn’t.
Suz and Loo
you have mail :)
TexB @ 100
TexB – did you try the “hold down the mouse button while booting up” trick? Shut the mac all the way down, hold down the mouse button thru out the start up – sometimes the disc will pop out… ’sposed to anyway…
OldCoastie @ 126
oooh. i will try that too.
it doesn’t even know it is there though.
Hey ET I thought what happened in Whittier stayed in Whittier? …. Oh on second thought that was outside the dark cave cove or was it summer?
TexB @ 112
Oh, yeah! He opened with Billy Joe Shaver, Mississipi John Hurt, Bob Dylan, and Johnny Cash. Can’t go wrong there. Even played one new song (for him) and a couple I have never heard him do (and I have been listening to him for 9 years).
TexB @ 121
Yep. The button in the extreme upper right is media eject. Hold it down immediately after restart and it should be 20 seconds or so.
Only McCain & Ron Paul have signed up for the Repug YouTube RNC debate…. now THAT should be interesting!
katymine @ 128
She wasn’t FROM Whitter, my dear. She’d tried to rob the Anchor Inn. I was there at the time, off-duty, so to say. When I tried to get ahold of her from behind, she swung around and flashed her hand across my forearm, cutting me fairly badly with a razor hidden in the palm of her hand.
I didn’t normally transport prisoners, but I was headed to the airport to catch a plane, and the police chief – strangely named Jerry Lee Lewis – was probably afraid of her.
Wow, David Keene of the American Conservative Union is railing against our Habeus violations we’re committing against Gitmo detainees!!!
katymine – loved this year’s vacation stories!
Whatta a day – evening late late niters! Love the FOX advertiser idea & all bookmarked and ready to go.
CTuttle @ 133
They finally realized what could happen to them if Hillary becomes president (and that they haven’t a chance in hell of retaining the White House in ‘08).
Mac users. Isn’t there a teeny-tiny hole on the door? of the CD tray that you can poke a paperclip in to release the tray?
CTuttle @ 133
The crescendoing drumbeat of Hillary Clinton in the distance sheds a whole new light on executive power, doesn’t it, Mr. Keene?
newtonusr @ 114
Sorry, just popped up from the benthosphere. Hi all.
You can also eject using iTunes’ eject button. Though you’ll probably want to do an archive-install of the OS to fix it properly. This is rather common with Macs.
Felix Moronia @ 137
Up through G-4, yes.
Ahhh the infamous Anchor Inn…. the very reason June started the B&B in the condo or at least that was her story so that they didn’t need to take a bunch of drunks out on their charter boat.
I am sorry you were injured and hope there wasn’t any permanent damage.
Thanks ET… I started writing about it during the trip and will see if Christy or Taylor will post them for some Saturday off political discussion, will see…..
all right, time for bed when I am the only one posting… see ya another night.. be safe and take care
katymine @ 141
thanks. there wasn’t.
Ed*ard Teller @ 140
This is a Powerbook, and the optical drive is slot-loading – no tray. There is a very small release button on one end of the slot, but it’s so useless that Apple techs won’t use it.
except this is a powerbook… Tex needs to find the key in the upper right hand corner with the triangle and a line under it (teeny tiny and next to F12)… if that doesn’t work, try holding the the trackpad’s “clicker” bar… if that doesn’t work, see the technician…
g’nite katymine
Ed*ard Teller @ 138
I get the feeling the wingnut crowd is getting a bit squeamish about Hillary Clinton and signing statements and unrestrained executive authority and all.
They are thinking about shoving that genie back in the bottle…..
Good luck kids.
-GSD
OldCoastie @ 145
Neither of those worked. They started to spin the disc, but it’s as though the little eject hand (or whatever) couldn’t lift the disc out.
DrDick @ 136
Something like that! Hey, I don’t know if you caught the sample of Slack Key I had posted on the last thread, so here ya go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMhlwlRp24Y
Hi Squiddy!
Tex B – sounds like an actual problem with the drive then… see the tech – they will get it fixed right up.
Loo Hoo. @ 78
not south dakota.
san diego.
“saint james”
texas has been wet.
lakes are full.
flood warnings.
really green.
OldCoastie @ 151
Yep, that is the plan. But that plan starts in 8 hours. Night all!
CTuttle @ 149
Checked it out. Pretty good stuff. Do you have any other suggestions besides Chris Rega?
Tex – not to be insulting, but you are sure there is actually a disc in there? (a mistake I’ve made ;-)
GSD @ 147
Even as we speak, she’s issuing secret coded instructions through her DKos decoder ring to Jane Hamsher and Markos to call the UN troops and black helicopters back here from their storage bunkers deep in the Canadian Rockies.
Hey Loo Hoo, nice to have another nocturnal to chat with. How’s it going?
I can’t sleep.
Fine, Squiddy. Where do you live? What’s the benthosphere?
yellowdog jim @ 152
Y’all can send some of that cool and wet our way. We are on track for the hottest summer ever. Hasn’t been a high below 90 for 3 weeks and the average is low-mid 80s. Also haven’t had any rain all month. This is not good. All the experts expect our forests to go up in flames any minute (only question is why they haven’t already).
OldCoastie @ 155
Yes. I can poke at it with a paper clip. (You’re the second person to ask.)
TexB @ 153
‘night, TexB.
Sorry the TS didn’t work. iTunes always spit it out for me.
(it NEVER swallows!)
ccmask @ 158
Too excited about Chicago? Or just too much excitement in DC?
ccmask @ 158
Well then take my place. See you tomorrow.
TRex: Thanks for the link to WUGA. The listening complements the conversation, and softens my anger tonight. Karen
‘night, Tex B
Night Betsy. Good luck with the tech.
DrDick @ 154
Bruddah IZ-Israel Kamakawiwoole, not much else on Youtube caught my fancy! I’ll try and get you some links to Gabby Pahinui and several of the other legends! Kind of scarce, most are dead!
Ah yes ET.
I have been reading the backs of roadsigns and keeping up with the latest cereal box missives.
I can’t wait to see Tom Delay’s face when Ghurka’s come across the Rio Grande.
-GSD
Night, Betsy. Me too.
I think I will head out as well. Well past my bed time and I’ve had a couple of beers. Take care of yourselves and enjoy the snark.
Wow! emailed Feinstein to say “keep on Abu”… got a reply tonight! I don’t I’ve EVER got a reply back sooner than a couple weeks!
g’nite tex
G’nite TexBetsy!
Old Coastie, we ought to plan a SoCal round-up.
CTuttle @ 168
Send me names through Facebook and I’ll check them out. I’m looking at buying some CDs.
Loo Hoo. @ 163
DC. I keep thinking I’m missing something like Miers was arrested or Condi was extradited or Bush slipped off to Paraguay….
OldCoastie @ 172
What did she say?
Night Betsy, LooHoo and other sleepy time pups.
ole coastie, does that mean she is going to keep on keeping on abu?
Was it something I said? I can sure clean out a room.
Bush slipped off to Paraguay….
Let’s see, that would leave someone else as President…
Loo Hoo. @ 159
Why, it’s the level of the ocean where distinguished mollusks such as myself frequent during daylight hours. But in the evenings I get funky and hang out in Santa Monica. What can I say, I’m a sucker for bright lights.
(’sucker’! Get it? -bada-bschhhh!-)
How ’bout you, Loo Hoo?
DrDick @ 171
Nite, DD!!!
Loo Hoo. @ 181
ewwww don’t even go there loohoo
DrDick @ 176
Can Do!!!
pierce aero @ 165
Hi, Karen, how are you?
newspaperbrat @ 178
Let’s see… appreciated hearing from me, quite concerned that the President and the Attorney General sidestepped proper confirmation processes, believes Abu should step down, is pissed about the firings of the USA’s, and that the committee is committed to pursuing the investigation…
in a nutshell, that’s it.
Loo Hoo. @ 181
If only – imagine the line of congresscritters falling over themselves to sign dear Dennis Kuchinich’s impeach Cheney resolution. ;~)
Suzanne @ 179
yup – she sounds pretty determined to chase him out of town
I’m in north San Diego County, squiddy. I was just saying we really ought to have a southern cali round-up.
I’m in the south end of OC…
oc, pissed works for me. lotta good can come from righteous anger.
What say a Saturday late morning in Dana Point at the State Beach? Folks could bring a picnic basket?
Suzanne @ 192
I would characterize the overall attitude as “determined”… I like it.
Me3 @ 50
I always wonder how many of those posts were being generated by WH Aides and those on the RNC payroll. I wish Yahoo! would release such information…particularly when it indicates criminal activity (misuse of Federal moneys). Anything posted from the “rnc” and affiliated websites might be worthy of presentation.
But maybe in some of those “dumped” emails are some sent to Yahoo! news addresses ;-)
Suzanne,
I was expecting you’d at least get on my case about incredibly poor training on my #124.
ET, I figured you learned that lesson the hard way.
Bedtime for Bonzo here… see you all tomorrow…
Later. Gonna try once again to fall asleep. Last oneto leave, turn out the lights so Bill O’Morally doesn’t come bust up the joint.
I’ll fall asleep thinking of questions for the Gop Youtube debate, even though I heard McCain & Ron Paul are the only ones showing up. The rest don’t care what regular Americans think of them. Maybe after the Gop debate we can have a MSM debate. Goodnight!
Loo Hoo. @ 190
That sounds like a fine idea.
Who needs YearlyKoz when we’ve got…’FiDoPAC!’
(’YearlyDog’ ? ‘BrushFireDog07′ ? I’m out of ideas.)
g’nite bonzo
Loo Hoo. @ 193
I love Dana Point! Went to e beach picnic there many years ago and had a blast.
Dana Point is good…
sleep wishes, ccmask…
Suzanne @ 197
That’s a “roger.”
G’night Old Coastie & ccmask – am heading off to dreamland too.
((((((((((Suzanne!))))))))))
(waving to npb across monterey bay)
Goodnite Suzanne. And ET. And Coastie & Squiddy. And Alfalfa and Stymie & Buckwheat. Slip & Satch…..
Why don’t we discuss it earlier tomorrow night. If the Texas and NoCal folks can do a get-together, surely we can here in SoCal too. Check your calendars….good night all.
Nite, Sleepers!!!
G’night ccmask.
Loo Hoo: don’t know where Dana Point is but I’ll google it. Sounds like fun.
Loo Hoo. @ 209
Check, will do.
g’night.
Hi all just wanted to pop in and see what was up.
hey argo
So its been a full night here I guess.
argosfalcon @ 213
Actually, seems like most have crashed out.
In fact, TRex hasn’t been heard from lately either. Something about a reboot I think, then -poof!-
Sometimes, when a lot of doggies leave the lake for the bunk around the same time, I envision a counselor at camp, tucking sweet, but exhausted kids in who are worried about the bears. I seldom say “nite” here, but “nite, friends.”
squiddy @ 200
hi there,
suggestion:
facebook.
1) firedog lake facebook group
2) get the “FDL Groups” application
3) create your regional FDL group
4) check out “FDL Central Texas FirePups”
as a model.
(also there is the FDL Late Night FirePups, too)
disclosure: i am “creator” of Centex FirePups
and Late Night FirePups.
~ ydj
it has been one hell of a busy news days, argo. we had what, 3 or 4 breaking news stories today.
I could not sleep, and was going to play a bit of homeworld to see how many space ships I could wreck. saw the NASA story and it reminded my of the strike going on right now, and well just had to say hi.
squiddy @ 216
East Coast thing and his tiny forelimbs were very busy today, 4 posts!
g’nite et and sleep well, my friend.
Ed*ard Teller @ 217
Nite, ET!
Thats what I gather, the strange and wonderful days are seem to be filled with more strange and less wonderful.
Okay, ydj. I’ve been meaning to join the facebook crew anyway. Will work on that now.
(holy crap! Global markets are all crashing and burning as we type.)
Seems that Jane Harmon was also in the dark about the NSA domestic intelligence program.
http://www.democraticundergrou…..15;1426820
This was her January 4, 2006 letter to Bush.
“Dear Mr. President:
On December 17, 2005, six members of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence requested a briefing for the full Committee concerning certain publicly-reported activities of the National Security Agency. As you know, since 2003, I have been a member of the so-called Gang of Eight – which includes the Speaker and Minority Leader of the House, the Majority and Minority Leaders of the Senate and the Chairmen and Ranking Members of the congressional intelligence committees. As a member of the Gang of Eight, I have received periodic briefings on highly classified programs. However, with respect to the NSA program that you have disclosed, I have reviewed the law and now believe that the practice of briefing only certain Members of the intelligence committees violates the specific requirements of the National Security Act of 1947.
The National Security Act requires that “The President shall ensure that the congressional intelligence committees are kept fully and currently informed of the intelligence activities of the United States . . . .” 50 U.S.C. § 413(a)(1). The Act makes clear that the requirement to keep the committees informed may not be evaded on the grounds that “providing the information to the congressional intelligence committees would constitute the unauthorized disclosure of classified information.” 50 U.S.C. § 413(e).
The Act provides for one exception to the President’s duty to keep all committee Members fully and currently informed of intelligence activities. In the context of a COVERT ACTION, the President may, if he concludes that “it is essential . . . to meet extraordinary circumstances affecting vital interests of the United States,” limit notification TO the Gang of Eight. 50 U.S.C. § 413b(c)(2). That procedure applies by the terms of the statute to covert actions, not intelligence collection activities.
-snip
The NSA program does not qualify as a “covert action.” That term is defined in the National Security Act as “activities of the United States Government to influence political, economic, or military conditions abroad, where it is intended that the role of the United States Government will not be apparent.” 50 U.S.C. § 413b(e). Covert actions, pursuant to the statute, do not include “activities the primary purpose of which is to acquire intelligence . . . .” 50 U.S.C. § 413b(e)(1).
-snip
http://www.house.gov/harman/pr…..PR_…
So Harmon was opposed to the law as well, at least the “disclosed section of it”….and felt that it needed to be revealed to the Full Committee. It’s hard to believe that she would advocate that a covert operation” be run domestically in the US, either by the NSA, CIA or FBI. Maybe that’s where the FBI resignations fit in.
And if Bush “couldn’t authorize” this (for reasons of “plausible deniability”) then it might explain all Gonzalez’s jibber-jab about doing the hospital visit “in the service of the President”. That would imply that he, Cheney, Card and others were doing this autonomously…and that they needed to obscure the President’s knowledge of the operation. Ergo, it’s illegal…and they even tried to get a very sick Attorney General to sign on the dotted line.
These folks are VERY NASTY. And by keeping Bush’s signature off the orders…and denying his knowledge they are building a wall around the President. But I suspect the “wall” is an artificial one. If not, then Cheney has a “shadow-government” running…and Bush…if he respected the Constitution, would be out to convict these criminals of treason. They were secretly taking control of the Executive Branch.
If Bush does not prosecute…then he himself is clearly involved in the “obstruction of justice”. And that’s pretty obvious by his insisting on some imaginary and universal “Executive Privilege” that goes beyond those involved in advising HIM.
Well night all I’m off to defend the galaxy.
g’nite argo
cinnamonape @ 226
You’re second link is an error statement!
g’nite–glad to hear everyone made it through the server-down portal safely!
see you tomorrow, ‘pups…
Well, I’m gonna bid another fond adieu to the Lake! Aloha Oe!!!
g’nite teddy and ct
guess i’ll head out too – catch ya’ll tomorrow night, same bat time same bat channel
cinnamonape @ 226
wow.
that was/is great.
thanks.
bravo.
take your battery out of your cell when you’re not using it.
but i repeat myself.
anyway,
be careful.
argosfalcon @ 227
G’night Argo. Don’t scratch up those spaceships.
cinnamonape @ 195
The funny thing was… I would directly confront them… The last month or so, only one of the really hard core wingers came out and said he was _not_ paid.
The other regular wingers would all refuse to answer, and they knew full well we were saving posts, and reporting federal law violations to the DoJ and FBI. As it turned out, most of the Yahoo noise was not RNC generated, there was a _TON_ of A*P*C money going into the pro-war propaganda there. It was a regular boiler room operation, they had shift changes on a regular schedule, break times… I got to know the schedules and the user names so well it became a joke discrediting them. When the bright light of truth was shone on them, they would scurry like friggin roaches to some less popular thread.
Some of these loyal bushites were in fact posting from Israel ;)
I am not anti-jew, but Z*on*sm is a threat to our national security… The Z*on*sts don’t give a damned about Americans, the law, or the Constitution… PNAC and the WH are packed with them… And by virtue of their birth, they are Israeli citizens.
~~~ModNote: Edited for content to clear filters.~~~
Anybody home?
Or should I just go to bed?
FunnyDiva
Hey ydj, quick Q if you got a sec,
I joined facebook & did a search on ‘firedoglake’ just to see what’s there. We’ve got two ‘global’ groups, some individuals, and then there’s ‘Firedoglake Moderators’.
I’m new at this, think I understand your suggestion to form a SoCal ’subroup’, but shouldn’t I send a ping out to the moderators or one of the globals just to ask permission to join the bigger group first?
I guess it’s a courtesy/netiquette question, but I’m also confused as to who’s who here.
i believe these folks get it: St. Pete For Peace Fact Sheets
Loo Hoo. @ 190
Good idea.
Hi Margot: I hope you are still awake. I’m fine.
Funnydiva2002 @ 236
I am not sleepy here and will be up for another 1/2 hour or so :)
Sorry Suzanne, meant to bid you g’night too. G’night.
Me3 @ 241
How d’ya do, Me3, nice ta meetcha.
OK, I’ll see how far I can work my way through the thread.
I’ll check back in about 10min.
Me3 @ 235
http://www.truthdig.com/report….._to_peace/
Goodnight to the remaining owls. Karen
Karen,
I’m awake but fading fast. Will go try to read a few pages of Harry Potter. Nite~!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Lt6Zn6JmXSM
Documentary filmmaker Michael Moore said Thursday that the Bush administration has served him with a subpoena regarding his trip to Cuba during the making of his new film, “Sicko.”
The Oscar-winning filmmaker, who appeared Thursday on NBC’s “The Tonight Show with Jay Leno,” said he was notified about the subpoena at the network’s studios in Burbank, Calif.
“I haven’t even told my own family yet,” Moore said. “I was just informed when I was back there with Jay that the Bush administration has now issued a subpoena for me.”
Moore filmed the trip as part of his film comparing the U.S. healthcare system with government healthcare systems in other countries.
He took three Sept. 11, 2001, emergency rescue workers to Guantanamo Bay “because I heard the al-Qaida terrorists we have in the camps there, detained, are receiving free dental, medical, eye care, the whole deal, and our own (Sept. 11) rescue workers can’t get that in New York City.”
Moore said the film’s distributor, the Weinstein Co., will donate 11 percent of “Sicko’s” box-office receipts Aug. 11 to “help these workers and the other workers who need help
squiddy @ 237
all of the groups are open for anyone to join.
my expectation is that you will have to join
“Firedog Lake” facebook group, and then (or ‘in order to’) deploy your “FDL Groups” application.
Once you have your FDL Groups application things may be clearer. we’ll talk.
At the Firedog Lake Facebook group there is a thread asking who uses what moniker here with what name there. And Facebook will show you a lot of Firepups’ faces, too. For instance, TRex goes by his real name there. Is that what you’re asking? because that’s a lot more information about who’s who here.
whereas, all of that applies at Facebook, then there are like experiments that tk3w has been doing with FDL Groups to let us set up these FDL subgroups of whatever variety we so choose.
i got to help him try out some of his work.
(we can leave the rigmarole about getting the blue ‘f’ cion by your name for later. please.)
Funnydiva2002 @ 243
The pleasure is mine to be sure. I used to be a daily poster here a long time back… When Fitz was dragging Rove back to the Grand Jury over and over and we were sitting on edge hoping he would get hung with a perjury charge. But I put in my long hours organizing letter campaigns, petition signings, impeachment drives, and wingnut suppression on the Yahoo public discussion boards.
After the elections were won, I had to get moving on my research, so I have been on “sabatical” from activism. Things are settling down for me now somewhat, I was getting bored with my free time, I saw another tipping point coming and figured I would see if there was anything else I could do to help drive another stake into the corrupt vampiric heart of bushco.
Since I have moved I have new R’s to dun, I sent email to Applebees for supporting Fox, etc. Small stuff compared to what I used to do, but I know every little bit helps.
John Tully @ 245
They couldn’t have given him a bigger gift!
What kinda research? What kinda lab?
I’m a science nerd, myself.
FunnyDiva
I’m not really a doctor
I have a Master’s Degree…of Science!
Me3 @ 248
realworld @ 249
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..ld_markets
I do, I do smell another tipping point!!!
(we can leave the rigmarole about getting the blue ‘f’ cion by your name for later. please.)
You bet, no problem. Many thanks for the guiding light. I’m sure I’ll get through it, create the group, post a pic, etc.
BTW ydj, your picture reminds me of a Jim I met through a firecracker named Darcie Fromholz there in Austin, must have been, oh, ‘92, ‘93 or so. Ever heard of her? (you would not have forgotten) She was a staple at Antone’s for a while.
Me3 @ 251
Tell me more, please oh please!
FunnyDiva.
wigwam @ 244
Me3@235 I don’t know how I got dragged into this…but I don’t think that I was involved at all in that thread. I had enough of the Z*on*sm discussion about two nights ago.
Funnydiva2002 @ 250
High energy physics. Strategic defense applications and hydrogen fusion reactor core geometries are on my plate. Fun stuff, lots of ozone, big sparks, the occasional electrical explosion…
It’s private research, no DOE or government involvement.
Me3 @ 255
Fizzix? Arrrrrgh! Ack, ack, ack! Brain overload! B-wooop, b-wooop, b-wooop!
Oh well. You KNOW how we chemists have it all wrong and are math wusses to boot, right?
Good for you for having all private research, though.
FunnyDiva
Anybody left at the Lake?
Funnydiva2002 @ 253
The fat R cats are just fine and dandy with the war… It’s the economy they bank on.
They don’t care about the poor or the middle class, as long as the rich get richer they will support GOP fascism. But I was reading some back pages at the finance sites, and it seems there is a pile of dead repackaged mortages that have not yet officially defaulted on the books.
Investment companies bought up tons of mortages from the small lenders who gave out way too much money to people who were not good credit risks. The correction we saw in the market yesterday reflects a bunch of these repackaged loans, which were resold by the investment companies as securities on Wall Street, go into default.
They are not reported at defaulted until the original mortages go 90 days past due. Apparently, the 60 and 30 day past dues are piling up…
The final gooper fallback argument is “Well the economy is doing great” – But I read a quip from somebody which said these defaults that corrected the market today are just the tip of the iceberg, and factoring in the 60 and 30 day paper not yet reported but that looks to head into default poses a problem not seen since the Hoover days… A veiled reference to the Great Depression.
These people defaulting, they are evicted… Also, the defaults indicate a massive hit in property tax revenue.
Me3 @ 256
Is fusion power still fifteen years away, as it has been for the past sixty years?
Aw crap. Looks like I can change everything about my Facebook profile except my nom de plume. (”teck-suh-poort!”)
Oh, I’ll worry about it tomorrow. G’night all.
Squiddy out.
Me3 @ 258
Thank you, Me3!
It’s too bad this will hurt average-to-poor Americans much worse than the Fat Cat Rs. Because when the rich start feeling a pinch, it’s really, really bad further down the foodchain.
Blech.
FunnyDiva
Gettin’ a eddy-KAY-shun at the Lake!
Hoo boy, I can’t handle a physics convo at 4:19am so I will just comment on the real estate market. The real estate agents I work with are scared, they see things happening in the market months before Wall Street and they are telling me its gonna be a nightmare this fall.
Mortgage companies have belatedly gotten tight fisted all of a sudden and there are too many new construction builders putting new inventory into the market, putting downward pressure on sales prices of existing homes and creating a death spiral. By the time the January primaries roll around we should be into a major free fall.
Me3 @ 259
Pretty much: http://www.rte.ie/business/2007/0727/markets.html
Funnydiva2002 @ 256
LMAO!!!
I always thought I would be a chemist, I love chemistry… But it never seemed to be a major talent. I sucked up the physics like a vacuum cleaner tho.
http://www.nic.funet.fi/pub/sc…..q_b800.gif
I built this oscillator in my Dad’s basement years ago. This is not what I am doing now exactly, and at the time this photo was taken I was just working out the power processing and had no applications. Now however…
wigwam @ 259
The idiots who are designing and building fusion machines are just that. As long as they continue with their curved space theories, each machine they will build will get them 1/2 closer to the magical break even point.
The technology they are using will keep getting them halfway closer… Forever. In fact they will never get there on the path they are on.
A couple of years ago, I figured out the problem. A few months later, I figured out the solution… They are using an incorrect geometry in their electromagnetic containment.
The problem dates all the way back to the early 1900’s and the general acceptance of Einstein’s theory… Which is treated as if it were a proven law of nature. Einstein has “curved” space… But everywhere I look, I see a fractal universe.
Their computer modeling of fusion reactor cores always show the reactor should pass the break even point. BTW, “Break even” means that you get as much energy out of the reactor core as you put in to produce the reaction.
But when I graphed the input/output energies of a whole string of fusion reactor experiments… I see their core geometry keeps getting them only halfway closer to the break even point. The solution they have been trying since 1968 has been to double the size and power of their core… And they keep getting halfway closer.
I don’t follow dead end trends… I think correctly, and outside the box. A fractal universe requires a different geometry for the core… After some thought and initial research, I have found what looks to be a very promising fractal geometry that in fact works in nature.
Dooood! That photo’s better than the Theater of ‘Lectricity at the Science Museum in Boston!
Funny how all us nerd-types manage to find a niche eventually. I thought I was going to be a veterinarian, but ended up in immunology and then biotech research.
Scary times to be looking for work after a year period of unemployment, eh? IRA portfolio AND real-estate tanking at the same time? Eeeeek.
g’nite for now. see ya around the Lake tomorrow…
Funnydiva.
Me3 @ 264
#267-
wow- you built that?
electricity is all PFM to me…
ruffian @ 268
I built that from scratch. Every part was hand crafted with the exception of a whole bank of neon sign transformers I picked up from dumpsters behind sign shops and reconditioned. The sign transformers power the oscillator. But the oscillator itself is entirely hand built from scratch, after I designed it. I still have it, I never could bear to part with it… In the back of my mind I always thought I might figure out an application for the processed energy.
:)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..IrSdCs0NUE
It’s a story about a couple of teens on an anti-war march across the country. It is interesting to note that the obscene reactions are from the war supporters.
What was it Bildo was quoted saying… Who are the “haters” again?
OK OFF TO DO MORNING BLOOD GASES
have a great day!
Up way too early today, but I thought I’d use this time to set our collective minds at ease re: the Gonzo/Mueller dust up. (courtesy Faux News)
“This just in from the DOJ (the tv at the gym was on Faux-I had no choice!)
You see, there’s really another double secret probation spying program Gonzo is talking about; so secret that no one in congress even knew about it.
And so therefore it’s all ok; nothing to see here, move along.”
Good morning, pups. In the NYT today we have Bobo who says the Republicans have and uphill struggle ahead (heh), and the ubiquitous Gail Collins saying that if your friend gets fat so will you. Then Paul Krugman writes about what happened on Wall Street yesterday.
http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/
The coffee and tea are ready, and I’ve got waffles with really, truly maple syrup or, if you prefer, fresh fruit. Have a great Friday. It’s payday — whee!!!
http://www.applebees.com/GuestLanding.aspx
Bottom of the page… Write and tell them you and your friends will find other places to eat if they continue to support faux.
Good Morning, Firepups!
Warm and humid here in central Jersey today. We’ve got a tropical air mass here, making even mid-to-high 80s [today’s forecast] seem oppressive.
Best reading this morning: check out this piece from TPM Muckraker by Spencer Ackerman and Paul Kiel explaining Abu Gonzalez’s distinction between Terrorist Surveillance Program [the one we know exists] and Project X [the one AG hints at in his testimony].
In the last few weeks I’ve become convinced that the Bush administration subversion of the Constitution is an even more pressing problem than ending the awful war in Iraq. We’ve ended wars. But we’ve never had an administration so willing to trash the Constitution, nor have there been so many willing to aid and abet.
Sadly, Republicans in Congress have made the calculation that they have more power supporting the administration than they have by banding together with Congressional Democrats to act on behalf of the Legislative branch in stopping the runaway Executive branch.
I don’t want the next Democratic president to have unitary executive precedents tempting them to become tyrants. But somehow, none of the Federalist essays by Madison, Hamilton, et al. seem to have anticipated people who would place loyalty to party above loyalty to institution and country.
I am very sad. And not sure what to do next.
Well, actually I’m putting out a pitcher of iced coffee and some lemon poppy seed muffins, and asking you to suggest some ideas about how to fight back. Help yourselves.
Work for peace and justice, every day.
Michael Moore was a guest on The Tonight Show last night, got a lot of applause and was kept as long as possibile by host Leno. I couldn’t immediately put my finger on why I felt ashamed, then realized: the establishment in our country portrays this genial, ordinary guy as some kind of radical.
Marion in Savannah @ 273
http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/
Saudi oilfield data is considered a state secret by their government. Brewster Jennings was involved among other operations in getting access to this data.
What is generally accepted by petroleum engineers and satellite data is this:
Field pressure has been dropping. In order to maintain output on their sweet oil wells the Sauds have installed massive pumping stations and pipelines to pump seawater into the well perimeters to maintain pressure and flow… They are in a recovery phase, no longer are these wells the prime producers they were 20-30 years ago. The average life span of wells in similar formations is about 40 years.
The Sauds still have lots of oil, and they make a bunch of noise from time to time that they can increase production to meet increased demand… In fact they have done so, yet the price of oil does not drop… Why?
It’s not the right kind of oil. Benchmark prices of oil is primarily sweet grades that require minimal processing at the refinery. The oil the Sauds offer to market is increasingly sour heavier grades, and refineries must undergo expensive retrofits in order to process this oil… So it goes unsold. It is not the type of oil that is needed to meet demand.
In response the Sauds have installed some massive desulfuring plants to pre-process this oil, making it more saleable. However, pumping in seawater, and desulfuring oil requires a lot of energy… So as the quality or production of Saud oil drops, the energy required to produce an equivilent product (say a tank of gasoline), increases.
That’s the story in a nutshell.
What I think is going to happen, in fact we already see it happening, is problems with the economy, (which used to reduce oil demand and prices)… With high, and possibly rising oil prices. It will be a double whammy.
Good morning!
Me3 how you doing?
Me3:
This stuff is great. Can you recommend sites that would introduce me to the economics (and politics) of oil? Would you recommend Michael Klare’s book?
The repugs in congress are trying to prevent an all out meltdown before the 2008 elections.
We’re waaaay past “blind party loyalty” and well into self preservation. You know, trying not to get caught up in the “baby with the bathwater” thing.
And so, anything they can do to prevent the creaking dam from breaking before Nov. 08 they will do.
The good news is there’s way more holes than they’ve got fingers.
brendan @ 279
http://fusioner.proboards60.co…..1122965368
I have not read that book. I put that ^ page together starting a couple of years back… Some of the photos and links are expired, but I copied out text where needed.
brendan @ 276
Michael Moore was a guest on The Tonight Show last night, got a lot of applause and was kept as long as possibile by host Leno. I couldn’t immediately put my finger on why I felt ashamed, then realized: the establishment in our country portrays this genial, ordinary guy as some kind of radical.
I’ve often wondered the same thing.
As Moore himself pointed out on Tweety’s show earlier this week, why is pointing out the truth about health care, lax gun laws, lying about going to war with Iraq, or corporate greed considered “radical”?
egregious @ 278
I am fine… Have a new lab up (not running yet however… delays, delays, delays always bog these things). I needed some time away, and I have some family issues at home which will require some travel next week.
I hope when I get back I can start testing the lab power supply in a few weeks.
I figured I would use the lull to check in and maybe write a few letters ;)
A few letters LOL! You got a whole bunch of people writing letters!
brendan @ 276
thanks for that. i did not watch (and forgot to record).
STTP in Ohio @ 282
i have come to the conclusion that telling the truth, in contradiction to the “polite” fictions of our culture, is considered (best case) like passing gas in public. it is just not done – at least by “polite society”.
or as george orwell wrote: “During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act“
SOUR OIL
BTW, the link I posted above about oil is 4 pages. ^ This is the post concerning “sour oil”
from this morning’s wapo:
I don’t if you had seen this yet, but
Look guys! We’ve arrived…..lol
Are bloggers part of the news media? The U.S. government — led by two of its most secretive agencies — is increasingly saying, “Yes, they are.”
Despite the rap that bloggers simply “bloviate” and “don’t try to find things out,” as conservative newspaper columnist Robert Novak once sniffed, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the National Security Agency (NSA) have altered policies to indicate they’re taking blogs seriously, and a growing number of public offices are actively reaching out to the blogosphere.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thebl…..-oks-.html
Hi Everybody,
Kevin and Mary Tillman are heroes. If you haven’t watched the Tillman/Lynch Hearing from April, 2007, this four hour hearing will open your eyes to this brave family.
Kevin’s opening statement brings down the gauntlet. Mary Tillman, Pat and Kevin’s mom, takes on Rumsfeld. They refer to Pat’s death as fratricide, not friendly fire.
I hope you will take the time to watch this in preparation for the August 1st hearing.
Me3 @ 274
Just finished sending my message — thanks for the link.
Boston1775 @ 290
Jessica Lynch was great too.
Note the sabotage in the new film “Sunshine”.