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		<title>By: melfeasance</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/26/breaking-leahy-to-subpoena-rove/#comment-851844</link>
		<dc:creator>melfeasance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 01:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theillustrateddailyscribble.com/daily.scribble.pages/06.25.04.html&quot;&gt;cartoon flashback&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.theillustrateddailyscribble.com/daily.scribble.pages/06.25.04.html">cartoon flashback</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bluetoe</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/26/breaking-leahy-to-subpoena-rove/#comment-851674</link>
		<dc:creator>Bluetoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 00:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-851078&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Arnie @ 305&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-850694&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;cynic @ 212&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Well, for the record, I respectfully disagree with Christy. She might come from a military family, but I was in the military (as were a number of us) and the folks in the Pentagon now are the jerks who were our commanders back in Nam. Or maybe they’re all dead and gone. If there is anyone left like General (former secretary) Powell, then it’s not such a stretch that they’d salute smartly and go out and kill they’re fellow Americans. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have a lot of respect for Christy, but history doesn’t support her assertion.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The method the military uses to get compliance out of their troops is to NEVER place anyone in their OWN HOME district, whatever happens is therefor against STRANGERS, not friends and KIN where there would be moral resistance to orders - orders get obeyed and mission accomplished. Contrary to Christy’s opinion, the military are trained to take life as ordered and are the nation’s THUGS enjoying the cloak of respectibility, no more, no less. Don’t be succered into believing anything other - sorry Christy, we shall disagree here as to “honourable professionals”.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Christy is naive on this one.  The Chinese had no problems in firing on their own citizens in Tianemen Square.  The military regardless of country are trained to obey orders.  Why she thinks the American military is any different is perplexing.  Perhaps she is a believer in American “exceptionalism”.  The National Guard had no hesitation when they were ordered to fire on unarmed students exercising their constitutional right of assembly and freedom of speech at Kent State.  If ordered there are people in the U.S. armed forces that would obey orders to turn their weapons on their fellow citizens.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-851078"><em>Arnie @ 305</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-850694"><em>cynic @ 212</em></a></p>
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Well, for the record, I respectfully disagree with Christy. She might come from a military family, but I was in the military (as were a number of us) and the folks in the Pentagon now are the jerks who were our commanders back in Nam. Or maybe they’re all dead and gone. If there is anyone left like General (former secretary) Powell, then it’s not such a stretch that they’d salute smartly and go out and kill they’re fellow Americans. </p>
<p>I have a lot of respect for Christy, but history doesn’t support her assertion.</p>
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<p>The method the military uses to get compliance out of their troops is to NEVER place anyone in their OWN HOME district, whatever happens is therefor against STRANGERS, not friends and KIN where there would be moral resistance to orders &#8211; orders get obeyed and mission accomplished. Contrary to Christy’s opinion, the military are trained to take life as ordered and are the nation’s THUGS enjoying the cloak of respectibility, no more, no less. Don’t be succered into believing anything other &#8211; sorry Christy, we shall disagree here as to “honourable professionals”.</p>
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<p>Christy is naive on this one.  The Chinese had no problems in firing on their own citizens in Tianemen Square.  The military regardless of country are trained to obey orders.  Why she thinks the American military is any different is perplexing.  Perhaps she is a believer in American “exceptionalism”.  The National Guard had no hesitation when they were ordered to fire on unarmed students exercising their constitutional right of assembly and freedom of speech at Kent State.  If ordered there are people in the U.S. armed forces that would obey orders to turn their weapons on their fellow citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim DeRosa</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/26/breaking-leahy-to-subpoena-rove/#comment-851383</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim DeRosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just want to know if Rove ever fucked Monica Lewinsky.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to know if Rove ever fucked Monica Lewinsky.</p>
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		<title>By: mui</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/26/breaking-leahy-to-subpoena-rove/#comment-851104</link>
		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I hope Joe Wilson gets his wish: Miss Piggy being frogmarched.&lt;br /&gt;
Let there be some justice!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope Joe Wilson gets his wish: Miss Piggy being frogmarched.<br />
Let there be some justice!</p>
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		<title>By: Arnie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/26/breaking-leahy-to-subpoena-rove/#comment-851078</link>
		<dc:creator>Arnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-850694&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;cynic @ 212&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-850662&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;eCAHNomics @ 189&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
The consensus was that I’m a jerk for questioning that the honorable military might do anything other than refuse to obey the order. Christie really reamed me out.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well, for the record, I respectfully disagree with Christy. She might come from a military family, but I was in the military (as were a number of us) and the folks in the Pentagon now are the jerks who were our commanders back in Nam. Or maybe they’re all dead and gone. If there is anyone left like General (former secretary) Powell, then it’s not such a stretch that they’d salute smartly and go out and kill they’re fellow Americans. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have a lot of respect for Christy, but history doesn’t support her assertion.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The method the military uses to get compliance out of their troops is to NEVER place anyone in their OWN HOME district, whatever happens is therefor against STRANGERS, not friends and KIN where there would be moral resistance to orders - orders get obeyed and mission accomplished. Contrary to Christy’s opinion, the military are trained to take life as ordered and are the nation’s THUGS enjoying the cloak of respectibility, no more, no less. Don’t be succered into believing anything other - sorry Christy, we shall disagree here as to “honourable professionals”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-850694"><em>cynic @ 212</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-850662"><em>eCAHNomics @ 189</em></a></p>
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The consensus was that I’m a jerk for questioning that the honorable military might do anything other than refuse to obey the order. Christie really reamed me out.</p>
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<p>Well, for the record, I respectfully disagree with Christy. She might come from a military family, but I was in the military (as were a number of us) and the folks in the Pentagon now are the jerks who were our commanders back in Nam. Or maybe they’re all dead and gone. If there is anyone left like General (former secretary) Powell, then it’s not such a stretch that they’d salute smartly and go out and kill they’re fellow Americans. </p>
<p>I have a lot of respect for Christy, but history doesn’t support her assertion.</p>
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<p>The method the military uses to get compliance out of their troops is to NEVER place anyone in their OWN HOME district, whatever happens is therefor against STRANGERS, not friends and KIN where there would be moral resistance to orders &#8211; orders get obeyed and mission accomplished. Contrary to Christy’s opinion, the military are trained to take life as ordered and are the nation’s THUGS enjoying the cloak of respectibility, no more, no less. Don’t be succered into believing anything other &#8211; sorry Christy, we shall disagree here as to “honourable professionals”.</p>
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		<title>By: Gunga Djinn</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/26/breaking-leahy-to-subpoena-rove/#comment-851076</link>
		<dc:creator>Gunga Djinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Already posted?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;AP reporting FBI’s Mueller has come out contradicting Gonzales testimony on the hospital visit to Ashcroft.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Already posted?</p>
<p>AP reporting FBI’s Mueller has come out contradicting Gonzales testimony on the hospital visit to Ashcroft.</p>
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		<title>By: Sparkles the Iguana</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/26/breaking-leahy-to-subpoena-rove/#comment-851073</link>
		<dc:creator>Sparkles the Iguana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-850766&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt; @ 258&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-850756&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Get Tough @ 252&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Thanks, GSD, will do.  I love to read, but hate looking for good things to read.  It is a pleasure to get good book tips from knowledgable people such as yourself.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Was it Andrew Bavevich who recently lost his son?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ve gotten so many good read and good music referrals.  Found Mavis Staples here!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, Bacevich did lose his son a few months ago.  A couple weeks before Memorial Day.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-850766"><em> @ 258</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-850756"><em>Get Tough @ 252</em></a></p>
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<p>Thanks, GSD, will do.  I love to read, but hate looking for good things to read.  It is a pleasure to get good book tips from knowledgable people such as yourself.</p>
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<p>Was it Andrew Bavevich who recently lost his son?</p>
<p>I’ve gotten so many good read and good music referrals.  Found Mavis Staples here!</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Yes, Bacevich did lose his son a few months ago.  A couple weeks before Memorial Day.</p>
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		<title>By: Tanbark</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/26/breaking-leahy-to-subpoena-rove/#comment-851034</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanbark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thaaat’s right.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Congress IS out of control.  :o) &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It got out of your control last November.  :o)  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; That was the “plan” Karl.   (How not to put quotes around “plan”, these days?  The poor word has been bungholed until it’s crosseyed!)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BTW, “out of control” is not a good phrase for you guys to be tossing around, what with your using the U.S. Constitution for ass-scoot material.   Also, your little petro-adventure in Iraq sure looks out of control to a majority of american voters.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    See you at the 2008 elections, where it’s REALLY going to get “out of control”.  :o)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thaaat’s right.  </p>
<p>Congress IS out of control.  :o) </p>
<p>It got out of your control last November.  :o)  </p>
<p> That was the “plan” Karl.   (How not to put quotes around “plan”, these days?  The poor word has been bungholed until it’s crosseyed!)</p>
<p>BTW, “out of control” is not a good phrase for you guys to be tossing around, what with your using the U.S. Constitution for ass-scoot material.   Also, your little petro-adventure in Iraq sure looks out of control to a majority of american voters.  </p>
<p>    See you at the 2008 elections, where it’s REALLY going to get “out of control”.  :o)</p>
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		<title>By: itwasntme</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/26/breaking-leahy-to-subpoena-rove/#comment-850885</link>
		<dc:creator>itwasntme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Steve Cohen on cspan 3 just asked FBI Dir. Mueller:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Was Comey’s testmony correct about his desire/intent to resign over abus rush to hopsital/secrect program.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mueller said: he didnt want to relate a private conversation&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cohen said: well, don’t do that, but tell us, was that your thinking?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mueller declines to answer that.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Cohen on cspan 3 just asked FBI Dir. Mueller:</p>
<p>Was Comey’s testmony correct about his desire/intent to resign over abus rush to hopsital/secrect program.</p>
<p>Mueller said: he didnt want to relate a private conversation</p>
<p>Cohen said: well, don’t do that, but tell us, was that your thinking?</p>
<p>Mueller declines to answer that.</p>
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		<title>By: M. F. Abernathy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/07/26/breaking-leahy-to-subpoena-rove/#comment-850842</link>
		<dc:creator>M. F. Abernathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Attorneygate is bad enough, but THIS is Bush’s worst nightmare:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;U.S. COURT OF APPEALS 9TH CIRCUIT DOCKET NO. 06-15017&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;IN THE UNITED STATED COURT OF APPEALS&lt;br /&gt;
FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;CHARLES AUGUST SCHLUND, III&lt;br /&gt;
Plaintiff/Appellant/Petitioner&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;vs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES&lt;br /&gt;
OF AMERICA, A SOVERIGN NATION; GEORGE W. BUSH,&lt;br /&gt;
AN INDIVIDUAL,&lt;br /&gt;
Defendant/Appellee/Respondent&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attorneygate is bad enough, but THIS is Bush’s worst nightmare:</p>
<p>U.S. COURT OF APPEALS 9TH CIRCUIT DOCKET NO. 06-15017</p>
<p>IN THE UNITED STATED COURT OF APPEALS<br />
FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT</p>
<p>CHARLES AUGUST SCHLUND, III<br />
Plaintiff/Appellant/Petitioner</p>
<p>vs.</p>
<p>GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES<br />
OF AMERICA, A SOVERIGN NATION; GEORGE W. BUSH,<br />
AN INDIVIDUAL,<br />
Defendant/Appellee/Respondent</p>
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