Login HereI'm sure that most of you are as annoyed and disgusted with Bill O'Reilly's latest smear campaign against the liberal blogosphere as I am. Of course, if you watch the clips, he's really, really reaching here. Based on nothing more than a couple of nuisance comments from Daily Kos, he insists that anyone who participates in the Daily Kos community or attends the Yearly Kos convention sanctions the murder of Dick Cheney and believes that we should all dress in drab Mao Tse-tung coveralls and proclaim Markos the Dear Leader of our Glorious Revolution while printing up little red books of Noam Chomsky to keep on our persons at all times.
(That's how you can tell I'm exaggerating, of course. Bill O'Reilly obviously has no idea who Noam Chomsky is.)
This is part and parcel with the Right's technique of distortion through anecdotal evidence. O'Reilly believes that if his producers can dig up some moronic troll comments on Kos (when they're not too busy fielding his sexual harassing phone calls), it gives him the right to tar the entire community with the same broad brush.
It's like insisting that Rudy Giuliani is personally responsible for the graffiti sprayed on to every single subway car in New York.
But, hey, we can play that game, too.
John at Americablog has found some pretty crazily unhinged comments over at Bill O'Reilly dot com. One of Bill-O's fans says that if Hillary gets the nomination, his "guns are loaded":
Note that the person has written over 1,000 posts on O'Reilly's Web site. That means he or she isn't new, he or she isn't someone who just came over from DailyKos in order to impersonate a BillOReilly.com member (as O'Reilly ridiculously claimed last night). It's a BillOReilly.com regular, and Bill clearly has had no issues with this person posting on his site in exchange for cold hard cash.* But what I want to know is why jetBlue promotes this hateful man on their airlines? Does jetBlue agree that we need to load our guns if Hillary becomes president?
(*O'Reilly charges his readers fifty clams each for commenting privileges.)
The Secret Service has apparently taken a distinct interest in O'Reilly's trigger-happy, Hillary-hating reader, which to my thinking is entirely appropriate. Of course, Bill-O will try with all his might to spin that he can't be held responsible for every lunatic that posts on his site, in spite of all the noise he has made about being able to control the content of one's website.
From last night's O'Reilly interview with Howard Wolfson, Hillary Clinton's communications director:
O'REILLY: …every respectable blog in the country, and you know this, because I think Hillary Clinton's website is respectable.
WOLFSON: Thank you.
O'REILLY: Every respectable blog in the country does not permit this hatred. Even…
WOLFSON: Bill, even your website has things on it that you would find objectionable.
O'REILLY: That's bull. Look, we know what you're going to say because the Kos planted someone in there. But when we see objectionable things, we take it off immediately. They traffic in it.
Ah, no, Bill. That's one of your regulars.
So, just to let Bill know that we love him, how about signing on with Brave New Films and Move On in letting Home Depot know that you don't appreciate their decision to bankroll Bill O'Reilly's hate speech and the hard-hitting, investigative distorting going on over at Pox News.
Seen enough? Now it's time to get to work. Join with us, the Sierra Club, and MoveOn to put an end to this propaganda and distortion by appealing to Fox's advertisers. Specifically, Home Depot. Why? Because Home Depot says they care about the environment. So we're giving them a chance to prove it by asking them to stop advertising on Fox until it changes its lies and distortions about the climate crisis.
Or write your own letters and faxes and use their 800-number to let Home Depot know how you feel about their business practices with regards to Pox News:
The Home Depot, Inc.:
2455 Paces Ferry Road
Atlanta, GA 30339
Phone: 770-433-8211
Fax: 770-384-2356
Customer Relations: 800-553-3199
Go get 'em, firedogs! You know what to do. It's time Asst. Principal O'Really got Spockoed.
And remember, be polite, spell check, and that WRITING IN ALL CAPS WILL MAKE YOU COME ACROSS AS A SCREAMING TROLL. Also, please feel free to refer back to my instructions for writing an angry letter if you need to brush up on your kung-fu.
(Show your work! You can leave your emails, letters, and faxes to Home Depot in the comments.)
Enjoy!
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Abu Gonzales:
The K2 of bullshit mountain.
Therapods 4 ever
howdy y;all!
Dos
Evening, gang!
Now you can go let downstairs politely know, oddball :)
Hey TRex, I was just trying to explain this to a friend. I’m going to just tell her to come read this. Excellent.
We already shop at Lowe’s or Northwest Hardware cause the Home Depot gives so much money to repubs.
*snort*
Are you serious about the charge to comment on O’Reilly’s blog??? That is sick and obscene. Oh. I guess it’s probably true, then.
TRex !!!
Nicely done, oddball. Thanks.
No Home Depot, their food sucks anyway.
-GSD
Coalition of the ‘getting the fuck out of here’.
Things in Iraq must be going so well, Denmark is leaving early because they are getting attacked every day.
If I agree to wear Mao overalls, think my family will let me go to YKos?
No Home Depot
No Circuit City
No Republican Fundies
What kind of fuckery is this?!?!
(One scarcely need ask when the likes of Loofah Bill O’Reilly is involved….)
Yay! Another Lane Hudson link. I’m in heaven.
SnarKassandra @ 12
I’m sure they will let you - when you are 18.
did Mao wear overalls?
Mornin’, everyone. Petition signed. I’ve gotten good lately at “morally outraged” letters. I put that in quotes because I’m no longer actually morally outraged at much at all. If one expects poop in a diaper (because it’s always there), it’s difficult to have an extreme reaction to it.
Speaking of which, whatever happened to that regular RedState commenter who sent
white powder through the mail to various Democrats?
You know, the cheeto-stained middle-aged guy living in Mom’s basement?
That story seems to have been deep-sixed.
odd how no major corporation has appropriated Mao’s image in advertising.
or maybe not so odd.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 17
Only as formal wear.
Gonzo owes everything he ever had to George W. Bush. He is lying to cover for W.
Here’s how it works. First, the program now euphemistically called the TSP is revealed. Nothing he can do about that.
Then he lies and says there was no substantial dispute about the program that the President confirmed. He has rationalized this by saying to himself that the program that was confirmed was the TSP with the changes which Comey insisted upon. It’s misleading, but not anything that would make one of these sociopaths blush.
Then Comey testifies. The cat is out of the bag. Now, what is AG to do?He can’t admit to lying. He has to stick to the story. He thinks he can get away with it, and he damned near did. You have seen how careful Rockefeller was about revealing the contents of that meeting with the gang of 8.
AG figured that the Dems would not talk about the meeting since it is highly classified. Bad figuring, but he keeps his job because he is loyal, not because he is bright.
I also think that the Bushies are chomping at the bit for an executive privilege showdown. This may be the wrong battle for them, but there is no limit to their hubris.
Note: this was from EPU, where Hmmm had asked why would Gonzo lie so transparently.
Evening all. Good show, TRex. Ol BillO is a classic case of rightard projection. Given that he routinely hosts Michelle MalKKKin, well known purveyor of hate speech, I do not think he really wants to go there. Then again, he really is dumb as a box of rocks.
Does a night go by where a fuckery is not invoked?
Is this fuckery thing a republican specialty?
I know fuckery.
allan_in_upstate @ 19
He was snapped-up by the Giuliani campaign.
-GSD
…skidding in at around #19 or #20, just signed the petition too…
Evenin’ Trex, evenin’ all
edit — ok, #26!
People actually pay Billo $50 to comment? Damn, I’d rather take a cigarette lighter to it than give it to him!!!
CTuttle @ 27
They steal it from their moms’ purses.
allan_in_upstate @ 19
He seems to be writing angry letters to SciFi magazines from prison at this point.
CTuttle @ 27
Earlier today, I wondered to myself, “What kind of intellectually deficient baboon would pay fifty bucks to post on a message board?” And now I know!
EvilDrPuma @ 21
:-)
Cultural Revolution Film Festival!
You will thrill and you will chill as the bourgeoise Beethoven playing professors are shackled and beaten by our revolutionary youth.
Working Class Unite (feature film)- 7:30 - Workers Great Hall auditorium - overalls mandatory
SnarKassandra @ 3
Evenin’ Cassie et al.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 20
It would be hard to do it for clothing. Where would it be made? I believe it was used on purses and it caused quite a backlash in Singapore.
EvilDrPuma @ 30
Does rather boggle the mind, doesn’t it? But then these are the people who have been sending all their money to Jerry Falwell and all the other TV snake charmers for all these years.
“Documents contradict Gonzales’ sworn testimony” By LARA JAKES JORDAN, Associated Press Writer
8 minutes ago
OK.. somebody really needs to start making a family values argument against this thug, for the rethug/theocon set. Every self-respecting pre-teen in the countr should be using Abu-style tactics when confronted with anything parents might want them to take personal responsility for. This is getting beyond absurd.
…and now I’ve signed as well.
How are all my really, really, really nice friends tonight?
Good bye Home Depot. Enjoy your Fox News frequent shoppers.
*raising hand as a signee also*
Blub @ 35
Don’t know if you saw Tony Snow’s Through the Looking Glass performance at today’s briefing - TPM has the clips…
Blub @ 35
Can’t you just hear “I don’t recall” resounding across the nation, as parents ask their kids where the hell they were last night and why they were out so late?
I’m enjoying myself nicely, LooHoo. How are you?
Suzanne @ 39
from the lake, or on shore? I missed your dive, apparently.
oddball @ 24
It’s fucked, i’n it?
THHUUUUUUH YANKEES WIN!
A-Rod hits his 499th lifetime home run. An A-bomb from A-Rod!
(Okay, Suz. I am done for tonight.)
LoudounLib @ 41
“I don’t recall” —> grounded and no computer
TRex @ 29
Oy veh. But that’s from 2002, which is before he went into the
anthr*x spoofing biz.
Is he actually serving time, or was he remanded to his mother’s custody?
If anybody on the left had done this, they’d be in Club SuperMax.
Signed on when Greenwald posted the link.
Colbert riffing on O’Reilly, JetBlue, Daily Kos.
SnarKassandra @ 46
Ding!
Bullshit! O’Reilly is an overly paid wordsmith who doesn’t believe a word of the shit he speaks. He knows he’s lucky to have a steady gig, and he’s making the most of it.
What Fox News calls programming is yet another commercial for yet another sponsor, the RNC. And O’Reilly delivers on what they want. But please don’t try to get me to believe that O’Reilly feels this or believes that. He’s a none too talented but well-paid craftsman plying his trade.
Mutant Poodle - still not diving - Congress is talking loud but still hasn’t gotten off their asses and neither have I.
Blub @ 35
Leahy drilled him a new asshole on Olbermann tonight.
Hi Snarkita!
Completely OT, but Tom Tomorrow has a great
Tom Friedman smackdown (click through the Salon sitepass).
wigwam @ 51
I used to work on the Fox lot in Los Angeles, and I saw O’Reilly a few times in the commissary.
I restrained myself, as I was allegedly a senior, mature executive. But geez - what a putz.
Colbert: So do not go to dailykos.com. Jimmy, put up the web address, dailykos.com, so people know where not to go.
Alicia @ 54
Hi Alicita!
Evening, TRex. I will definitely sign that petition.
Chairman Mao uniforms? Totally not my color, and besides, I’ve got about seven minutes left–why would I hide my decent legs and okay waistline at this late stage?
LoudounLib @ 50
Yes, since you are not a Rethug, you understand the concept of accountability.
How come O’Reilly can have Ann Coulter on to talk about blowing up the NYTimes, poisoning Justice Stevens, calling Edwards a “faggot”, mocking Darfur genocide?
Has anyone connected those frigging dots?
-GSD
Suzanne @ 52
Oh - I’ve been off the grid with family visits and such - is this a protest? What needs to happen to get you back on (or off) the board?
GSD @ 61
IOKIYAR
GSD @ 61
See my post above. ;~)
Doing well, Suz. Getting excited so I’ll share again this news:
First we bring you a Presidential Leadership Forum, and now this? All on the same DAY? And for such bargain-basement Conference registration prices? We must be totally insane!
Pinch me, I must be dreaming! And again just for fun. Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, US Rep. Rahm Emanuel, and Sen. Charles E. “Chuck” Schumer will participate in a unique Ask the Leaders Forum to be held Saturday, August 4th.
(Don’t tell Cassie…)
I accidentally went into the bad part of town, politico.com. But there was a story about that Young Turk guy, Cenk Uygur. _______________________________________
Blog philosophy: Uygur said he’d never really considered what his blogging philosophy was — until we asked. “I would say that I try to contribute something to the dialogue.”
How? Lots of ways. In one instance, Uygur found out almost incidentally by reading a news story that the average age of Bill O’Reilly’s audience is 71. “This was thrown away in a sentence in the middle of another news story and I picked it up and wrote about the implications of O’Reilly doing his show from a virtual senior citizens center.”
Loo Hoo. @ 65
Well, I’m sorry I’ll miss that. But I’m sure my fellow lakers will represent me honorably.
Mutant Poodle @ 62
I’ve been thinking on this myself, MP - what will it take and I believe when Congress actually does something instead of being all talk and no action, then I’ll dive again. I guess I’ll know it when I see it.
Mutant Poodle @ 56
He’s a total jackass, but I doubt he give a rat’s ass about the things he seems worked up about on camera.
I’m starting to feel the ground shift again. Bush’s government is collapsing.
Poor Tony Snow is becoming the Picture of Dorian Gray for this pathological bunch.
They have been so used to creating their own reality that they have become totally removed from and unable to gauge what is reasonable anymore.
They and their supporters, that dwindling number, are looking more and more patholigical to a larger and larger percentage of Americans.
The nation is finally catching up to the rest of the world.
-GSD
My little note to Home Depot:
Dear Customer Relations,
I am frequent customer of your Flagstaff store in Arizona. While I like shopping at Home Depot I am concerned that your support for environmental protection is superficial.
Home Depot is a major advertiser for Bill O’Reilly’s TV show on Fox TV. Two issues you should be very concerned about: He doesn’t believe in global warming, doesn’t believe in the science supporting it. That tells me he is not concerned for the environment. Secondly, Mr. O’Reilly maintains a blog on the internet that seems to support hatred against those who disagree with him and advocate violence against some Democratic Presidential Candidates. Do you really want to be associated with hatred and violence. If so, then I am afraid I will no longer be able to patronize Home Depot.
Thank you for your thoughtful consideration of these issues.
xxxxxxx
xxxx, AZ
wigwam @ 69
Hmmm…I feel a new phrase coming on…wait for it…Paycheck Partisan!
The kind of letter that gets results….especially when you spend money as we do:
======================================
Over the past year, we have spent over a thousand bucks at Home Depot, both here and in California. Going forward, we will spend nothing at Home Depot unless you think seriously about dropping your sponsorship of Bill Oriely and Fox News. There is a Sears a few miles down the road, and they sell nearly the same thing. Take it seriously. You lose customers one at a time.
AZ Matt @ 71
nice!
Loo Hoo that is that the convention?
Gonzo will be frog marched because of his ribbiting testimony…
barbara @ 8
In a bit of synchronicity, Colbert shows a screenshot of the O’Reilly website with the $5 per month charge for commenting.
cynic @ 73
yeah - love the mention of the competition :)
Mutant Poodle @ 72
((Giggles)) Seems they actually taught you something in the fancy Ivy League B-School.
eCAHNomics @ 49
Did you all notice this? First time I’ve seen lefty blogs on DS or CR.
Great letter, AZ Matt!
SnarKassandra @ 75
It certainly looks that way. Meanwhile, our voices will echo through the empty comment threads here at FDL…
Mutant Poodle @ 72
screw Murdoch, Ailes and Billo
Mutant Poodle @ 82
I’ll be here with you all too.
Paycheck Partisan!
Clever, MP!
Mutant Poodle @ 72
EXCELLENT!!
Mutant Poodle @ 82
Well, not completely empty. There will still be a few of us hanging out as usual.
DrDick @ 79
Hey - PUBLIC B-school - fancy Ivy League undergrad.
Not sure which gets the credit for this one. Probably comes from being spawn of book editors.
Mutant Poodle @ 82
wah wah wah! i still do temper tantrums if i think they will help. you joining?
wah wah wah!
wah wah wah!
wah wah wah!
wah wah wah!
Y’know….why is everyone treating it as news about “contempt of Congress”? Of course the Bushies are in contempt of Congress. Congress is part of the America that is not part of the Bush cabal, and that’s exactly whom they’ve been contemptuous of for nigh unto seven years now.
What should be newsworthy is “Congress notices Bush’s contempt”.
sorry, cass, temper tantrums do not help advance your cause.
Mutant Poodle @ 82
I’ll be here.
At C&L:LINK to video
Evening everyone,
I too will be here on the threads, out here on the perimeter where there are no stars.
SnarKassandra @ 89
Sadly, no one to blame but myself. Too much other travel this summer, so DKos was just one thing too much.
How do those tantrums work for you? I found that after about age 6, their effectiveness declined to negative territory.
(sigh) i’ll be here
Suzanne @ 91
Ever.
AZ Matt @ 71
NIIIIIIIIICE!!!
A-plus with a big gold star!
When does is start? The speaker line-up was really quite impressive. The new media is lighting the way.
-GSD
DrDick @ 97
But sometimes they make me feel better and other people feel worse.
RonD @ 94
Perhaps we can sneak through the toobz and take over while everyone’s in Chicago…pass it on.
Suzanne @ 91
Yup.
We just call the Waaaaaaaaah!mbulance
Suzanne @ 39
me three…
Y’know, the Atlanta Falcons have not yet fired Michael Vick. You all know who he is, of course- the guy who was hosting and sponsoring the dog fights. Real piece of work, that guy.
So… why haven’t the Falcons fired him? We should ask Falcons owner Arthur Blank. Hey, what else does Arthur Blank own…?
HOME DEPOT. Yet another reason to boycott, kids.
It’s a twofer. Drop O’Reilly, drop Vick, then I’ll buy paint from you again, and nails and caulk, and NOT ONE SECOND SOONER.
This Blank guy seems to have a real weak spot for bullies and assholes. What’s the deal?
No one should ever shop at Home Depot due to the way they treat employees. Fire the ones that have been there the longest since they may be making $10.00.
Try Googling employee complaints about HD. They are not much better than Walmart.
Beware of the regular commenters!
And $50 for the privilege of commenting? Hmmmmm . . . something comes to mind about suckers and every minute.
Speaking of money, I still haven’t gotten my check from George Soros. (((tapping foot)))
SnarKassandra @ 100
The zero-sum philosophy at work. Sadly, kind of a republican perspective.
What can you do to make you AND other people feel better? That would be a progressive strategy…
SnarKassandra @ 46
“I don’t recall” —grounded and no computer
Oh yeah. I just did that to my son–grounded, that is. He is not happy. Good. Remember it!
Speaking of Chicago,
Though your brother’s bound and gagged
And they’ve chained him to a chair
Won’t you please come to Chicago
Just to sing
In a land that’s known as freedom
How can such a thing be fair
Won’t you please come to Chicago
For the help we can bring
We can change the world -
Rearrange the world
It’s dying - to get better
Politicians sit yourself down,
There’s nothing for you here
Won’t you please come to Chicago
For a ride
Don’t ask Jack to help you
Cause he’ll turn the other ear
Won’t you please come to Chicago
Or else join the other side
We can change the world -
Rearrange the world
It’s dying - if you believe in justice
It’s dying - and if you believe in freedom
It’s dying - let a man live it’s own life
It’s dying - rules and regulations, who needs them
Open up the door
Somehow people must be free
I hope the day comes soon
Won’t you please come to Chicago
Show your face
From the bottom to the ocean
To the mountains of the moon
Won’t you please come to Chicago
No one else can take your place
We can change the world -
Rearrange the world
It’s dying - if you believe in justice
It’s dying - and if you believe in freedom
It’s dying - let a man live it’s own life
It’s dying - rules and regulations, who needs them
Open up the door
We can change the world
(Writer: Graham Nash, 1970)
(Performer: Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young)
DrDick @ 34
all of you have heard this, right?
Mutant Poodle @ 107
But I don’t feel progressive when I am angry. I just feel angry.
Peterr @ 106
Gee - I got my $100,000 yesterday.
I spent it lattes and Volvos.
Loo Hoo. @ 65
Hell yes, tell Cassie….and her whole blog group. They should be down front with the rest of us…well, not me, this year…..but they will soon be voters. I think it’s time the Democrats knew some of the faces they will have to answer to in the coming years.
Suzanne @ 78
I spent money at Lowes last week and avoided ….HD
SnarKassandra @ 111
Well, there is that.
Yes, Snark. We’ll keep you all posted.
Tony Snow is reaching buffoon levels.
-GSD
SnarKassandra @ 100
Only in the short term. I used to have a really bad temper (which has fortunately gone away as I have aged) and all it ever got me was trouble. There is some short term relief, but in the long term it always reaches around to bite you.
This will be in tomorrow’s WaPo:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....inionsbox1
Get it to Christy or Scarecrow because it’s about prosecuting the President of the United States on War Crimes.
The dam is breaking.
GSD @ 117
It’s high time he achieved his pinnacle.
RonD @109 — excellent song…
So, everyone knows that W was much closer to his grandfather, Prescott, than to his father, Geroge H.W. But it turns out that his grandfather was involved in a 1933 coup plot to replace FDR with a Fascist government: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/hi.....0723.shtml
This certainly explains a lot. Imagine W sitting at the knee of Prescott Bush, hearing about how bad FDR was, how Social Security had to be taken down, about how a fascist dictatorship is the right way to run a country. Nuts don’t fall far from the tree.
GSD @ 99
I don’t know. I’m looking forward to a complete guide to the who and wheres. Saturday morning and I’m sure it will be in the convention center across the street from the hotel.
Thanks LL. A theme song for YKos ‘07 if ever there was one.
GSD @ 117
Tony Snow started at buffoon levels. He now launched into the far reaches of the Bozosphere.
Just thinking out loud here.
What would happen if there was a real campaign to bring down Lowe’s. Hell, they earned it for sponsoring Bill O, and then, come to find out there’s the Michael Vick dog-fighting connection.
Pickets at stores that say, “Lowes supports hate speech.” “Don’t support haters.”
Campaigns to more direct action. People buy things and return them. They must lose a couple of bucks every time this happens.
Leave abandoned cars in their parking lots.
Many speakers show up at city council meetings to object to bus stops near Lowes on whatever grounds, or on grounds that Lowes supports hate speech. It won’t work, but Lowes will have to take notice.
What other ideas come to mind?
See you in a bit, kids.
Peterr @ 106
Peterr, I still have never gotten my Liberal Agenda. It should have been here years ago!
The only people I’ve ever heard of who have one are guys like Rush, etc.
I asked someone once what the liberal agenda was, and she said, “World Domination!” Works for me!
marymccurnin @ 105
Ironically, when my local Home Depot opened, half the Walmart employees left to work for them!
And sushi!
TRex @ 127
Drive safe.
mc @ 119
The nation is entering dangerous territory. Notice the frenzied Bush/Rove efforts to hype Al Qa*da. Froomkin was right about Bush becoming an AQ cheerleader.
The appearance by Bruce Fein on Countdown tonight was also riveting.
Bush’s presidency is beginning to falter. Gonzales was too much for a whole new round of people. Tony Snow is desperate. Rove is once again over his head and out of his league.
-GSD
Mitch, isn’t it Home Depot?
Don’t wanna get the boycott wrong.
-GSD
Aww, I come to my favourite blog and what do I find? An image of Rupert Murdoch, the one person in the world who can cause me to erupt in a lava-flow of vitriol that registers 9.8 on the Richturd scale.
Besides that, how is everyone doing tonight?
BigMitch @ 126
uh mitch, it is Home Depot - not Lowes
CTuttle @ 129
This is the tactic that Circuit City recently used on hundreds of their higher-paid employees. I haven’t set foot in one since.
waves to persiflage
mc @ 119
Probably written by some dirty f**king hippies.
HD is one of my clients…and there has been a major change over there in the last 12 years.
Kind of shocking, really, I used to enjoy dealing with them.
waves back to Loudon Lib.
persiflage @ 134
G’day, Sheila!!!
GSD @ 133
oops.
CTuttle @ 141
G’day Bloke!
Hello all, guess I’m just in time for another consumer revolt.
The authors of the WaPoo Op-Ed:
Not the usual DFH’s.
By P.X. Kelley and Robert F. Turner
Thursday, July 26, 2007:
“One of us was appointed commandant of the Marine Corps by President Ronald Reagan; the other served as a lawyer in the Reagan White House…..”
Damn long haired, dope smoking hippies.
-GSD
The military is turning hard against Bush.
persiflage @ 134
Yes well, he is one of yours after all.
what they are in fear of is what they do know about the people that can type and use a computer. the chatter is only theater, move along
I gotta go, but I will be back on tomorrow. Assuming I “do recall” where I went, who I was with, and what I did.
Bye
RonD @ 124
True, and now Neil Young’s “Let’s Impeach the President.”
Night Cassie.
so how are the subjects of the realm, restless I would guess. The preceding is snark, but some do seem a bit worked up.
g’nite cassie
DrDick @ 147
No Dr Dick, he was born one of ours, he’s chosen to be one of yours. And you’re welcome to him.
It’s kind of amazing to me that the military has been so loyal to Bush for so long. Especially when one considers the outright hostility of the military towards Bill Clinton. But, Bush would be wrong to count on it lasting forever.
argosfalcon @ 152
The peasants are revolting!
sleep well Cassie
GSD @ 132
Tony Snow is beginning to make Baghdad Bob look good.
TRex! Thanks for the nudge - just driving by before jumping into bed for work tomorrow - but I took time to go sign the petition.
I avoid HD by going to Lowe’s whenever possible, too. We’ve only had Lowe’s for a couple of years, and I’m really glad they’re here. Use the local hardware store, too. The owner himself can tell me which screw it is I’m looking for!
And, Cassie/Snarkassandra - I won’t be at YKos either. I scheduled the time off, but haven’t got the money. Iwas conflicted, actually, as my 40th high school reunion is the same weekend. It’s in Indianapolis, and for awhile I thought I’d fly down to Indy for one night of reunion, and back…or even drive…then realized, yeah, if it was my 20th reunion I might be able to do that. At present, I’d nap through most of both events, I’m afraid.
Anyway, maybe next year.(for YKos, that is).
G’nite, all.
“…has vigorously defended the constitutionality of warrantless National Security Agency wiretaps, presidential signing statements and many other controversial aspects of the war on terrorism.”
When this guy says you’re out of control, you’re out of control.
DrDick @ 156
Groucho: They certainly are!
Good night, Cassie!
All that hard work and Bush ends up in the slammer, dreaming of what he was going to buy himself in 09.
Peterr @ 158
Baghdad Bob was always good for a laugh, at least…
Is TonySnow going thru Chemo treatments?
BigMitch @ 138
A former Marine Commandant and a Reagan WH Lawyer?
BigMitch @ 155
And the military would do what? Follow orders until its to late, or pick a year and refuse orders and share a cell with whom.
BigMitch @ 155
General Batiste said that Bush has been feeding the military shit and telling them to make chicken salad.
Bush is going down as a criminal and a hated villain.
-GSD
BigMitch @ 22
All too true. Without Bush, he’d probably be pulling Nigerian email scams.
DrDick @ 156
Well that goes with out saying, yet I have to wonder if cutting the fresh water was the wisest solution.
Howdy, fellow firepups.
I am one seriously tired puppy, so I doubt I’ll last long after I dip my toes in the Lake.
For those who read my comment last night, yep it’s confirmed - my younger sister, whom I’ve been out of touch with, just finished National Guard training. I’m trying to not think of it too much. I’m very proud of her, but worried, too.
Liss/DreamingCrow @ 171
Well, good for her. Here’s hoping she gets to serve in the manner for which the Guard was originally intended.
Liss, all my best to you and yours.
-GSD
Thomas Jefferson Freedom Breakfast in Philly with Bush tomorrow. I hope someone asks him about the pig…
Hi Liss. Can’t blame you for being concerned. Do the new grads get to spend time here at home for a period of time?
Prayers, Liss.
argosfalcon @ 167
I don’t ever expect that the military will refuse to obey orders, at least not until there is open rebellion in the streets, and they are called upon to suppress it. But more could speak out about the stupidity of our strategery and lack of equipment. Individual rates of AWOL could go up. Re-inlistment is higher than I would expect, but that’s the old cognitive dissonance thing for ya!
What did the military do during Clinton’s years so that everyone in middle America thought that the military was against him?
persiflage @ 154
Perhaps, but you’ve still got everyone’s favourite Murdoch wanna-be, Lord (Conrad) Black of Crossharbour.
Suzanne @ 176
Mine, too.
ccmask @ 174
I hope someone asks him what he knows about Thomas Jefferson. (What pig?)
All those who wear the green, should be honored, those that lead them astray, nothing is unpleasant enough in this world or any other to visit them.
Frederick of Hollywood must have been heckled by a John Bircher at one of his events.
His thin Hollywood skin isn’t ready for the level of invective coming his way as he tries to pick up and run with Bush’s flaming turd of a mantle.
-GSD
Liss, what kind of rotations has your sister’s guard unit had? Are they due to head out to Iraq, have they just come back, or something in between?
LooHoo: The pig is….
remember when Bush went somewhere and the reporters wanted to talk about Iraq and he wanted to talk about the BBQ and he said I thought you were going to ask me about the pig. A Bushism.
Loo Hoo. @ 175
Not always. Several of my students went straight to a few weeks special training and off to Iraq when they graduated (graduated in May, in Iraq by August). At least one has returned (thank god) and is back in school. Liss, my best wishes to you and your family. Hopefully she will actually be guarding this nation.
(vision of GWB trying to relate to Thomas Jefferson and a pig. Shakes head to clear.)
To bed for me. Good night, all.
If I were a Christian who didn’t believe in reincarnation, Gonzo would be a case study.
Does he prop up his masters because he’s ’sold his soul?’
Is he marching into hell for a heavenly cause?
Do ends justify means on this grand a scale? This is the high drama of low tragedy. Or is it the reverse?
I heard a guest on Randi Rhodes today who gave me something to think about.
He said that Bush can’t declare Martial Law because there is only one standing brigade in the United States. This would make enforcement of Martial Law impossible. It sounded pretty good.
But then I thought about it. Bush has left just one brigade to protect the ‘homeland.’ …and he’s the threat.
Cornered rats with nukular weapons.
IMHO
It’s a trap.
Has anyone seen AK?
1,588 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen wigwam and the Firepup Patriots:
Welcome to the world of American history…there is a fascist gene in the American chromosome string that goes back to the unholy compromise of the constitutional convention, runs thru the Firebreathers and nullifiers to the America Firsters and the corporations that invested in and made major fortunes on Hitler and Nazi Germany including, but not limited to Henry Ford, IBM and Prescott Bush. The connections of America’s oligarchic families are intermarried and run back to slaveholders and bankers of slaveholders who “diversified” into oil at the turn of the 19th century and then captured the uranium market in the 1950’s. Barbara Bush is a descendant of President Benjamin Franklin Pierce, the Walker in Walker Bush was Latin America’s Lawrence of Arabia, and the early Bushes bankrolled the Krupp family in WWI. And of course we all know about Prescott Bush who not only traded and made a fortune off Nazi Germany but was reinvented as a US Senator from Connecticut in the 1950’s.
America has been dancin’ with fascism for 200 years.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION…THEY WON’T GO QUIETLY INTO THAT GOOD NIGHT!!
Mutant Poodle @ 172
That would be my hope, as well, but I feel that it’s less and less likely, as time goes on.
GSD @ 173
Thank you.
Loo Hoo. @ 175
My understanding, secondhand right now, is that she’s only serving domestically at this point, but expects to get called up eventually.
President Bush with German Chancellor Merkel and Bush being questioned by a reporter.
Q Thank you, sir. Just to follow up —
PRESIDENT BUSH: Follow up on?
Q On both of these. Does it concern you that the Beirut airport has been bombed? And do you see a risk of triggering a wider war?
And on Iran, they’ve, so far, refused to respond. Is it now past the deadline, or do they still have more time to respond?
PRESIDENT BUSH: I thought you were going to ask me about the pig.
Q I’m curious about that, too. (Laughter.)
PRESIDENT BUSH: The pig? I’ll tell you tomorrow after I eat it.
Meanwhile, the son of one of my friends will be headed back to Irak for his third deployment in a couple of months; additionally, one of the police officers I work with has also just been deployed for the third time (reservist). He’s had to put his house on the market because of the financial hit this time around.
mc @ 119
Good God! Thank you, MC. This will get the national and international attention it deserves. Ordinary citizens will pay heed.
My greatest concern is that Bush must be brought to justice, with or without impeachment, I don’t care (except that the sooner he is out of office the sooner I’ll feel safe).
Per the Constitution, Senate-ratified treates like Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions are “the supreme law of the land.” Unfortunately, the Constitution left it to the Supreme Court to enforce them and the Supreme Court only handles cases referred to it by federal courts.
To remedy that Catch-22, the Republicans passed the War Crimes Act of 1996, which gave federal courts jurisdiction over violations of Common Article 3. But in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld the Supreme Court ruled that Bush and company had already violated Common Article 3 via their military tribunal system. To remedy that embarrassment, which wold make the president and his men war criminals, the Republicans and most Democrats (no daylight between us and them) passed the Military Commissions Act of 2006, which was intended to gut the War Crimes Act and to give retroactive immunity to Bush and his henchmen. IANAL and don’t know whether they succeeded.
I’d very much appreciate the opinion of a true legal maven.
Night RonD. Try not to dream of Thomas Jefferson chasing Dubya while riding a pig.
g’night RonD, sleep well.
LoudounLib @ 179
Thank you very much, both of you.
ccmask @ 191
A mind is a terrible thing to lose.
that great statesman Dan PotatoE Quayle.
vcORRECTION: “…diversified into oil at the turn of the 20th century.”
argosfalcon @ 181
Agreed. I’m actually a member of the first generation of my immediate family on my mother’s side to not serve. I almost did, as well, but I ended up married with kids, instead. (My sister is my father’s daughter, not my mother’s.)
g’nite rond
Sorry for the OT & the pig.
Peterr @ 183
Unfortunately, this is some of the stuff that I don’t know yet. :-/ She just finished training, something beyond basic, and is back home, so I’m trying to get a hold of her and find out what’s going on.
ccmask @ 191
What a jack of asses.
BigMitch @ 177
Having served in the Army from Reagan till Shrub, I never saw open hostility to any Prez, but, Shrub during the drum beat up to war in Iraq! I’m glad I was out before my Unit was called up! They were none to pleased!
Peterr
>>Perhaps, but you’ve still got everyone’s favourite Murdoch wanna-be, Lord (Conrad) Black of Crossharbour.
Good evening dear friends. How are my fellow firepups this eve?
ccmask @ 201
Merkel is probably thinking exactly the same thing…. :)
DrDick @ 194
bwwwaaaaaaaaa
DrDick @ 185
Thank you, DrDick. That would be my hope, as well. Unfortunately, I haven’t talked to her in a year and I don’t speak with our father, so I’m having trouble finding information.
Hi Betsy, doing fine here but fading fast — how are you doing?
Loo Hoo. @ 188
He was on IM all morning. Busy with dad stuff I think.
LoudounLib @ 210
Doing well, thank you. My doc finally solved the problem of my dizzy spells. :)
excellent news, tex
TexB @ 212
That’s great news! Now you’ll be all revved up and ready to go for YKos :-)
Good nite all.
Sleep well CC
g’night cc, sleep well
g’nite ccmask
Night CC
Peterr
>>Perhaps, but you’ve still got everyone’s favourite Murdoch wanna-be, Lord (Conrad) Black of Crossharbour.
Hi Peterr, I don’t think we’ve ever crossed post-paths before but I know you from your comments and I’m very pleased to ‘meet’ you. I’m Australian which makes me 100% Rupert and Conrad free (or as free as you can be)
Alfred was also working hard on a (long) new post.
wigwam @ 193
With all due respect, dream on!
Impeachment is necessary to vindicate the constitution, and to show future presidents that there are limits to what Congress and the American people will put up with.
The Supreme Court is also the court to which appeals from State Supreme Courts go. But the problem is that for a case, you need an aggrieved party with standing to initiate the case. So this latest memo is likely to go unchallenged except in the court of public opinion.
I’d very much appreciate the opinion of a true legal maven.
On these last points, I am sorry but I am not a maven.
night rond and ccmask. Hello, TexB.
persiflage @ 220
My apologies for mistaking your heritage, and I’m pleased to connect with you as well.
*OT*
Dr Hillhouse (of The Spy Who Bills Me and late nite commenter here at the Lake) will be on Democracy Now tomorrow morning (details at her blog). I hope she will be discussing her article in The Nation, about the outsourcing of our intelligence to private companies.
From the NYT: LINK
TexB @ 206
Evenin’, Betsy!
The endless project of my Shandaken cabin would not have reached its present state of completion without the support of Home Depot. Your staff at the Kingston store have always been helpful, friendly and professional. This fact makes it all the more distressing that I am very seriously considering switching to your near neighbors, Lowes, for my future needs. What prompts this is your sponsorship of Fox News, a source of malignant disinformation on many subjects, but most critically on the environment and global warming. I truly believe that Home Depot is committed to the values of protecting the environment and I cannot square this with sponsorship of a news program that consistently denies the threat of global warming, demeaning and attacking those who want to do something about it. Please reconsider your sponsorship of programming that in no normal sense of the word can be considered “news.” When you do, I will reconsider my decision to go to Lowes.
Japandrew @ 228
That works.
Japandrew @ 228
I like it.
Peterr @ 224
Peterr, that’s OK, you can’t be expected to keep track of every foreign neer-do-well who wanders in here in the middle of the night.
Support local business. Support small business owners.
TexB @ 232
This is something we can all get behind.
TexB @ 232
Ding, as newspaperbrat would say.
LoudounLib @ 81
Terrific letter.
TexB @ 232
Whenever possible. However, many of ours are Rethugs of the most regressive variety. Sort of damned if you do and damned if you don’t.
TexB @ 221
Justices can be impeached, but it is generally assumed they can be impeached on less than “high crimes and misdemeanors.” This is because Article III, Section 1 of the Constitution says: “The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behavior…”
persiflage @ 231
Or the middle of tomorrow morning, depending on one’s point of view.
Friends, I have hit the wall…I wish you a good night and a great tomorrow.
LoudounLib sleep well.
Night LL. Keep the world safe from civilians tomorrow.
g’nite ll, keep on keepin ‘em safe
Mutant Poodle @ 82
As Redshift pointed out (maybe last nite) last year folks with laptops at YK made a real effort to stay onthread as well. We didn’t want there to be a divide in the community between the YKers and the Stay-at-Homes. I don’t have a laptop (yet!) but I’m sure there will be lotsa ‘pups staying in touch. Plus there’s the whole Second Life way of practically being at YK….
Coulter cruising for action at Home Depot?
Noam: “Ann is in aisle land”
TexB @ 232
Oh, yes. Especially in a town like Seattle, where we have the wonder which is Hardwick’s.
http://www.yelp.com/biz/Q3sAiiC3MDjrH1TrCgH7Og
TeddySanFran @ 243
You may certainly borrow my laptop if you’d like to check in.
TeddySanFran @ 243
TSF, I am hoping that this will be pointed out, perhaps with some links to last year’s YKOS coverage, by an enterprising front pager one night. We really had a blast (those of us who did not go) because of this effort by everyone.
TeddySanFran @ 243
The problem with the SL YK2 is that there’a a fee to attend that TOO. Most of SL is fee less entry to an area or to see things. I had been considering dropping by that sim during the convention weekend. Now? Not so much after i learned there’s a 25$ entry fee. I can understand it for a live convention (i pay it for my yearly anime convention!), but for something that’s literally a 3D broadcast? Um. That’s where i hesitate.
OK, I’m cooked. See ya manana…
(not to be confused with Mahnamahna…)
Mutant Poodle @ 249
Sleep well MP
Night MP. Sleep well.
BigMitch @ 222
Impeachment is necessary to vindicate the constitution, and to show future presidents that there are limits to what Congress and the American people will put up with.
The Supreme Court is also the court to which appeals from State Supreme Courts go. But the problem is that for a case, you need an aggrieved party with standing to initiate the case. So this latest memo is likely to go unchallenged except in the court of public opinion.
I’d very much appreciate the opinion of a true legal maven.
On these last points, I am sorry but I am not a maven.
On your first point, perhaps I’m dreaming. Nevertheless, I think it’ll get a lot of attention from folks who wouldn’t otherwise be impressed. “If even the Commandant of the Marines says Bush is nuts, maybe those libruls are on to somthing. It’s sure as hell costing a lot of money.”
On your second point, I don’t agree that impeachment is sufficient to deter future presidents from similar behavior. Only real punishment, i.e., death or prison could have a sufficient impact, and even that may still be insufficient. Nixon’s humiliation had no deterent effect on subsequent Republican presidents.
On your third point: that’s very interesting. The problem (for me) is to find a state law that he has violated.
I really, really want to see this guy brought to justice.
Again, thanks!
g’;nite mp
punaise @ 244
Well Donne!
Novak whanking on Waxman:LINK
NorskeFlamethrower @ 189
DUDE!!!
Rev. Al hearts pooches.
Amen, Way to go Rev.
-GSD
Wondering how big Kos’ “Colbert Bump” will be..
It’s important to Strike Back! Not to be ‘above the fray’, or worse, shrug Orally, Coulter, and Pals (including swiftboaters) as beneath bothering with. Ignore them and they will NOT go away! No more than a pack of rabid slavering…hyenas will go away.
BigMitch @ 237
I think Alcie Hastings was the last judge impeached and convicted in the Senate in the late 80’s. There will not be 67 Senate votes needed to remove any Judge or Public official for the foreseeable future.
Brand new zed upstairs. :)
http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....be-debate/
Ton Davis is almost a big a dickweed as Bob Novak.
-GSD
Wigwam —
The death penalty is wrong. Always. Wrong for Eichmann, wrong for Dahmer. Wrong for the guy who murdered my grandmother. Wrong for Bush. IMHO.
Nixon wasn’t impeached, tried, and kicked out of office. But your point is well taken. Maybe it is I who is dreaming.
If you live in Robert Novak’s world, this is how it looks on Sara Taylor:
Taylor has been the most obvious target of a grand inquisition, but she is small game. The Democrats are after her former boss, senior presidential adviser Karl Rove, and beyond him, George W. Bush, whom they consider an illegitimate president. At a staff level, it is simply payback time for Democrats who remember when Rep. Dan Burton chaired the committee that Waxman now heads and sought e-mails revealing illegal foreign political contributions.
Hmm, doesn’t Lowe’s have something like a 0 rating from BuyBlue?
montag @ 265
Considering the nature of most of these types of retailers products.. (lumber, paint, chainsaws, etc.) it does seem a bit self defeating, environmentally, to walk in either of these stores unless absolutely necessary.
BigMitch @ 263
I share your rejection of the death penalty. But the mere mention of the fact that the things Bush has done are capital offenses (under the War Crimes Act) brings a satisfying note of astonishment and sobriety into my discussions with republicans. I can’t help myself.
Orilley accusing KOS of sending commenters to O’Rs site to slander it… wonder if Riley did that to KOS? Sounds quite plausable!
Loo Hoo. @ 264
In effect, Novak claims to be able to know Waxman’s mind. Is this an aptitude he acquired when he converted to Catholicism — a gift from the Holy Spirit — or did he have it when he was still Jewish? Inquiring minds want to know.
TexB @ 221
Whoa. That’s quite a thought he has going there. I was wondering what Specter was up to with that comment today, but didn’t comprehend that Supreme Court justices are impeachable for the same reasons as presidents are - just because. Lying to the Senate about what they planned on doing when they became justices could be considered misbehavior in office, couldn’t it?
I’m late to the party again, but I’m catching up.
Hey, kids. I can tell by the perpetually circling “Refreshing Comments” sign that it’s time for a new thread.
wigwam @ 269
It’s secret hoodoo handed down from one generation of intellectually lazy people to the next.
Cujo359 @ 270
OMG!! That is exactly what I’ve been wondering about. God bless you!
Petition signed. I tried to go to Louffa-boy’s website once to tell him what I thought of him. Decided $50 was WAY too much for the priviledge. It IS one way to make sure only your fans comment. Wouldn’t want differing views to muddy his lovely brain…
allan_in_upstate @ 19
Would that the weird adult son of a southern CA republican? Names escape me though I believe he was arrested. oh never mind…..
MURDOCH AS HOME DEPOT LEAR
I will never buy another flower or another nail at Home Depot until this otherwise progressive and helpful company stops advertising on the politically neanderthal and intellectually poisonous FOX Channel. These FOX people (see O’Reilly, Hannity, et al, would have been the “good Germans” supporting Hitler during World War II — and Murdoch would have been a good Goebbels, too).
And printed Herr Goering, too — “Naturally, the common people don’t want war, but after all, it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament. or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.”
– Hermann Goering, Hitler’s Reich-Marshall, at the Nuremberg Trials
Remind you of America after 9/11, by any chance?
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/ll and yet Bush and Co. managed to drag the American people into a War on Iraq by conflating it with a war on terrorism.
Hermann Goering taught them well. And the American people will still show up at Home Depot — until, of course, they realize they have been tricked by Fox and the fascists and the faux-patriots. Then, watch out, the commercial scene will grind to a halt and Home Depot will be called on the carpet for its reactionary corporate sins. Plywood is not just plywood, remember. And people remember the corporate sinners.
Do you really want to be on the reactionary, Murdochian side of history? Or do you want to help build the new, inclusive, and expansive America (where’s there a lot more money to be made)?
Make up your mind — Decrepit, old dying oligarch or a booming new future? Your choice, your money.
Ask yourself, will Rupert Murdoch live to capitalize on anything? To put it bluntly, the man is pushing ninety, ready to face a very, very, grim reaper. Or is he just a greedy King Lear howling at the Wall Street Journal? Whatever, he’s dead sooner than later and American capitalism must forge on. Just sayin’ you might start paying more attention to those of us who are going to be outlasting old Rupert. Boomers and the like.
Besides, he doesn’t really deserve Home Depot now, does he? Scaly old man gives me the creeps. “Beast from the Fox Lagoon” with underage sex turtle is what I see.
What about you?
EvilDrPuma @ 30
I think Rush Blowhard has the same sort of”premium membership” thing too. And hey,in Rush’s case you get a newsletter too,so it’s a real bargain.
The military likes repukes because they give the the go ahead to use their toys and then get more.
We need to downsize the entire military. It’s pure waste and there is no real mission. But these guys into guns, plans, ships and missles just love their toys so much… they even have colleges devoted to militarism.
Weird that is.
Do your homework people; are you all blind?? The Left says Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, yet Iraq’s money from Oil for Food helped fund global jihad. No direct connection? False! It’s all part of one grand strategy, if you care to look. And Oil for Food was just the tip of the ice berg when it comes to a vast, evil plan by radical Islam to turn civilization back 1000 years. Even with the startling information that’s being gleaned from Iraq by our military that demonstrates broad support by Saddam, it’s just another example of denial. But no problem—liberals detest the military so much they call them liars on anything substantive. What has really poisoned the minds of many in America is the vast number of hateful, unthinking professors that spew falsehoods in the name of education. Without a doubt, Ward Churchill is the epitome of their ilk. It has been said that anybody under 30 who isn’t a liberal doesn’t have a heart and anybody over 30 who isn’t a conservative doesn’t have a brain. Actually, anybody under 30 who didn’t attend one of our bastions of liberal idiocy is a conservative and still has a heart.
You don’t go after Fox advertizers a-la Imus.
You go after the Fox Stations and their FCC LICENSES when they come up for renewal.