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		<title>By: larue</title>
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		<dc:creator>larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 06:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-848110&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;myers @ 100&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sounds like a script for Duck Soap. Saw a comment on Glenn Greenwald’s post on Kit Bond that is similar in its logic:&lt;br /&gt;
No Contradiction: It Was The Wrong Plan But It Was Successful and It Was Working&lt;br /&gt;
You see, the earlier plan was the wrong plan even though it was successful and working, just not successfully and workingly enough.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The new plan, which just seems like the old plan with some more people, is the right plan and is working and is successful, but we don’t yet know if it will be sucessful and working enough.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So the new plan which is the right plan and which is successful and working may soon itself too become the wrong plan, which although correct and successful and working needs to be replaced by the right plan, which will be successful and working even more.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;– El Cid&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Duck Soup is one of my all time fav movies. The parody and snark is so good you always miss half of it while even smiling, much less laughing. That requires repeated viewings . . . good call. *G*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-848110"><em>myers @ 100</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Sounds like a script for Duck Soap. Saw a comment on Glenn Greenwald’s post on Kit Bond that is similar in its logic:<br />
No Contradiction: It Was The Wrong Plan But It Was Successful and It Was Working<br />
You see, the earlier plan was the wrong plan even though it was successful and working, just not successfully and workingly enough.</p>
<p>The new plan, which just seems like the old plan with some more people, is the right plan and is working and is successful, but we don’t yet know if it will be sucessful and working enough.</p>
<p>So the new plan which is the right plan and which is successful and working may soon itself too become the wrong plan, which although correct and successful and working needs to be replaced by the right plan, which will be successful and working even more.</p>
<p>– El Cid</p>
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<p>Duck Soup is one of my all time fav movies. The parody and snark is so good you always miss half of it while even smiling, much less laughing. That requires repeated viewings . . . good call. *G*</p>
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		<title>By: BigMitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigMitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 23:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-848174&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;noen @ 160&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;BigMitch is of course correct. A true mobious strip is a two dimensional object that has only one side. It’s three dimensional analog is the Klein Bottle which has no inside surface.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A mathematician named Klein&lt;br /&gt;
Thought the Mobius band was divine&lt;br /&gt;
Said he: If you glue&lt;br /&gt;
The edges of two&lt;br /&gt;
You’ll get a weird bottle like mine.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-848174"><em>noen @ 160</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>BigMitch is of course correct. A true mobious strip is a two dimensional object that has only one side. It’s three dimensional analog is the Klein Bottle which has no inside surface.</p>
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<p>A mathematician named Klein<br />
Thought the Mobius band was divine<br />
Said he: If you glue<br />
The edges of two<br />
You’ll get a weird bottle like mine.</p>
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		<title>By: NMvoiceofreason</title>
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		<dc:creator>NMvoiceofreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 23:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Happy Birthday Jane!!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Republicans are correct. There is nothing to see here, move along now. No criminal violations of 18 USC 606 (use of federal prosecutors for partisan purposes to effect the outcome of elections).  No criminal violations of 18 USC 1505 and 1512, by lying to Congress that the White House was involved/not involved. Nothing to see here, move along now. Please return to your previously scheduled childrens programming, and leave running the government to the adults.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy Birthday Jane!!!!</p>
<p>The Republicans are correct. There is nothing to see here, move along now. No criminal violations of 18 USC 606 (use of federal prosecutors for partisan purposes to effect the outcome of elections).  No criminal violations of 18 USC 1505 and 1512, by lying to Congress that the White House was involved/not involved. Nothing to see here, move along now. Please return to your previously scheduled childrens programming, and leave running the government to the adults.</p>
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		<title>By: c</title>
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		<dc:creator>c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Shiff sounded pretty powerful.  It was correct and good to hear.  On the Youtube video–who are the guys talking and laughing while Shiff was speaking?  Incrdibly disrepectful.  Does this kind of thing happen a lot in Congress?  Like kids cutting up in class.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shiff sounded pretty powerful.  It was correct and good to hear.  On the Youtube video–who are the guys talking and laughing while Shiff was speaking?  Incrdibly disrepectful.  Does this kind of thing happen a lot in Congress?  Like kids cutting up in class.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Steele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Steele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m beginning to think that Pelosi and Reid were not the best choices…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m beginning to think that Pelosi and Reid were not the best choices…</p>
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		<title>By: darclay</title>
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		<dc:creator>darclay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I e-mailed Feinstein this morning and told her it was time to move on impeachment, have not had time to get to the other judiciary but I will.&lt;br /&gt;
Is all of Congress in on this crap or what. Where is the inherent contempt charge why do we have to wait till Aug for a full vote? The big BS House at its finest.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I e-mailed Feinstein this morning and told her it was time to move on impeachment, have not had time to get to the other judiciary but I will.<br />
Is all of Congress in on this crap or what. Where is the inherent contempt charge why do we have to wait till Aug for a full vote? The big BS House at its finest.</p>
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		<title>By: Cujo359</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cujo359</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-848200&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oklahoma kiddo @ 179&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“limits” tells us nothing ever touches anything. George Bush is not the teflon prez, but he seems to be the asymptote president.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I prefer to think of him as the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.science.siu.edu/Zoology/King/304/ch03.htm#randomwalk&quot;&gt;Drunkard’s Walk&lt;/a&gt; President. At least in this case, there’s hope karma will eventually happen.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On my less optimistic days I agree with the asymptote metaphor, however.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-848200"><em>Oklahoma kiddo @ 179</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>“limits” tells us nothing ever touches anything. George Bush is not the teflon prez, but he seems to be the asymptote president.</p>
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<p>I prefer to think of him as the <a href="http://www.science.siu.edu/Zoology/King/304/ch03.htm#randomwalk">Drunkard’s Walk</a> President. At least in this case, there’s hope karma will eventually happen.</p>
<p>On my less optimistic days I agree with the asymptote metaphor, however.</p>
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		<title>By: eCAHNomics</title>
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		<dc:creator>eCAHNomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-848187&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;hackworth @ 173&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-848171&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oklahoma kiddo @ 158&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Henry Kissinger in talks with Putin&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Last week Henry Kissinger led a delegation of US political big-hitters on an extremely low-profile mission to Russia, where they met with Vladimir Putin and an equally matched Russian delegation - led by former Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov - to discuss some of the more pressing issues in US-Russia relations.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Make no mistake about it - this was a serious, high level meeting.  Just take a look at this list of delegates:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.siberianlight.net/2007/07/24/henry-kissinger-in-talks-with-putin/&quot;&gt;http://www.siberianlight.net/2.....ith-putin/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not to belittle your comment, but I find it interesting that a &lt;em&gt;former&lt;/em&gt; congressman Sam Nunn and the CEO of Chevron attended. Fascinating that oil companies are so heavily entwined in American political maneuverings. Heckuva job Bushco.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just another specific example of who’s really making U.S. foreign policy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Could U.S. relations with Russia be more f’d up? I guess there’s no reason to think Russia would be any different from any other country, but it is really amazing to go down the list of countries &amp; observe the detrioration in U.S. relations under W.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Even China. I read that on Paulson’s last visit, he walked out of a presser before his Chinese counterpart showed up, a huge faux pas there. And since Paulson’s a vaunted China expert, he did it deliberately. I used to think he was one of the adults in the Admin, but not after that. (things come undone, if you’re online, please note.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-848187"><em>hackworth @ 173</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-848171"><em>Oklahoma kiddo @ 158</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Henry Kissinger in talks with Putin</p>
<p>Last week Henry Kissinger led a delegation of US political big-hitters on an extremely low-profile mission to Russia, where they met with Vladimir Putin and an equally matched Russian delegation &#8211; led by former Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov &#8211; to discuss some of the more pressing issues in US-Russia relations.</p>
<p>Make no mistake about it &#8211; this was a serious, high level meeting.  Just take a look at this list of delegates:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.siberianlight.net/2007/07/24/henry-kissinger-in-talks-with-putin/">http://www.siberianlight.net/2&#8230;..ith-putin/</a></p>
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<p>Not to belittle your comment, but I find it interesting that a <em>former</em> congressman Sam Nunn and the CEO of Chevron attended. Fascinating that oil companies are so heavily entwined in American political maneuverings. Heckuva job Bushco.</p>
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<p>Just another specific example of who’s really making U.S. foreign policy.</p>
<p>Could U.S. relations with Russia be more f’d up? I guess there’s no reason to think Russia would be any different from any other country, but it is really amazing to go down the list of countries &amp; observe the detrioration in U.S. relations under W.</p>
<p>Even China. I read that on Paulson’s last visit, he walked out of a presser before his Chinese counterpart showed up, a huge faux pas there. And since Paulson’s a vaunted China expert, he did it deliberately. I used to think he was one of the adults in the Admin, but not after that. (things come undone, if you’re online, please note.)</p>
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		<title>By: maralenenok</title>
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		<dc:creator>maralenenok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-848193&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;noen @ 176&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;You just have to cut it once down the middle.&lt;br /&gt;
There is some info here:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://scidiv.bcc.ctc.edu/Math/Mobius.html&quot;&gt;The Möbius Strip&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unless I need even more sleep than I think, that link actually says I have to cut it twice:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;(3) Now, with scissors cut the Mobius Strip along the center line that you drew. Then draw a center line around the resulting band, and cut along it. Did you predict what would happen? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The first cut gives you one band, the second cut gives you two linked bands. If you cut each of those two linked bands again, you get four bands. It’s pretty awesome. I want to try it with a wider strip of paper to see how many times I can do that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-848195&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;do-si-do @ 177&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think this is the first birthday party I’ve been to with a &lt;em&gt;math &lt;/em&gt;theme other than the person’s age!  We serving cake or Pi?  ;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I propose cake. Each gets pi servings.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-848193"><em>noen @ 176</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>You just have to cut it once down the middle.<br />
There is some info here:<br />
<a href="http://scidiv.bcc.ctc.edu/Math/Mobius.html">The Möbius Strip</a></p>
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<p>Unless I need even more sleep than I think, that link actually says I have to cut it twice:</p>
<blockquote><p>(3) Now, with scissors cut the Mobius Strip along the center line that you drew. Then draw a center line around the resulting band, and cut along it. Did you predict what would happen? </p>
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<p>The first cut gives you one band, the second cut gives you two linked bands. If you cut each of those two linked bands again, you get four bands. It’s pretty awesome. I want to try it with a wider strip of paper to see how many times I can do that.</p>
<p><a href="#comment-848195"><em>do-si-do @ 177</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I think this is the first birthday party I’ve been to with a <em>math </em>theme other than the person’s age!  We serving cake or Pi?  ;)</p>
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<p>I propose cake. Each gets pi servings.</p>
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		<title>By: eCAHNomics</title>
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		<dc:creator>eCAHNomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-848180&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;ifthethunderdontgetya @ 166&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-848164&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;eCAHNomics @ 151&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Who would be acting? And what is his/her record/politics?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_A._Taylor&quot;&gt;Jeffrey A. Taylor&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;From 1999 to 2002, Mr. Taylor served as majority counsel on the Senate Judiciary Committee where he advised Chairman Orrin Hatch and drafted provisions of the USA PATRIOT Act.[2]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Which makes me mighty suspicious of Mr. Taylor, right there.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yep. So it wouldn’t make sense to wait for him to step in. Let’s go NOW.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-848164"><em>eCAHNomics @ 151</em></a></p>
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Who would be acting? And what is his/her record/politics?</p>
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<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_A._Taylor">Jeffrey A. Taylor</a>.</p>
<p><i>From 1999 to 2002, Mr. Taylor served as majority counsel on the Senate Judiciary Committee where he advised Chairman Orrin Hatch and drafted provisions of the USA PATRIOT Act.[2]<br />
</i></p>
<p>Which makes me mighty suspicious of Mr. Taylor, right there.</p>
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<p>Yep. So it wouldn’t make sense to wait for him to step in. Let’s go NOW.</p>
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