Okay, I’m starting to get really excited about YearlyKos. I didn’t get to go last year, but this year I’ll be there with Jane and Christy and Pach and Marcy and Siun and Swopa, oh my!
There’s going to be a Thursday night PubQuiz competition and we’re thinking about putting together a team. I asked Marcy and Swopa, but Swopa begged off. Groan. Well, Marcy’s as good as ten other bloggers for that kind of mental olympics. Whoo-hoo!
Raise your hand if you’re going to YearlyKos.
I know there’s a lot of important questions I should be asking you guys, like what forums you’re going to, what events you’re most looking forward to, and what you think would be good ways to push back against Asst. Principal O’Reilly’s vicious smears against the event and its attendees, but first, there is one crucially important thing we have to straighten out before we go any further in this discussion:
What are you going to wear?
It’s pretty hot in Chicago at this time of year, so I’m not anticipating much need for a jacket or coat. I’m bringing my “Screw world peace! I want a pony!” t-shirt, some jeans, couple pairs of dress pants, my lucky tie, and some button-down shirts. The question I’m wrestling with is whether or not it would be worth it to pack a blazer or even a suit.
I mean, you may as well look nice. You never know when roving Righty asshats with cameras are going to show up and shove a microphone in your face and ask a bunch of STOOPID leading questions that you’re supposed to whip out an answer to on the spur of the moment.
Actually, I think that would be kind of fun. Why, I can’t think of anyone better equipped to say devastatingly clever things under fire than, well…me.
And then I’d eat the reporter and swat the cameraman with my tail, “THWACK!!!”
Oh, yeah, this is gonna be big fun.
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TREX!
Zed?
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Wow. A whole bunch of us racing for the zed.
What kind of fuckery is this?!?!
And I took the extra few moments to read the post first….
Evening all. Zuno?
How ’bout a therapod sized codpiece?
hey trex
Wish I could see what your lucky tie looks like. I’m sure you’ll be the most elegant therapod there. Hope all you folks going to Chicago have a WONDERFUL time…..maybe next year for me.
Given that hotels have a lot of air conditioning, I’m bringing clothes in several layers. What? Skirts, pants, whatever. And suitcases full of snack food. And a super obnoxious digital recorder with a large mic to stick in everyone’s face.
Can’t wait to meet TRex!
Evenin’ TRex, evenin’ all
((Sigh)) Not even in the top ten. Oh, well. 8~p
GordonM @ 12
*ahem*
They don’t make them that big.
trex, do you need to buy two seats, one for you and one for your (ahem) tail?
As to the ? … wanted to go last year, work interfered. Planned on going this year & family responsibilites popped up the week before I planned on sending in my registration…sigh.
If i were going, i’d bring my snazzy new clothes (bought for the job interview that went nowhere) and my favorite “Bill the Cat” T-shirt. If there were too many cameras around i might even put on makeup ;-)
TRex @ 18
What’s chicken-wire and paper mache good for?
TRex @ 18
Sure they do…but they call them “urinals.”
Gotta turn in. Daily Show not very funny on YouTube debates.
Nite.
happy day after your birthday, gordonm.
Any NYC Firedogs reading tonight, please email me privately for a very exciting (but completely confidential, for now) project!
df530 at bellsouth dot net
eCAHNomics @ 23
‘Nite eCAHN. Think you missed my joke on you about 3 stories downstairs :-).
funnydiva let downstairs know, trex
Waited too long to sign up..the Hotel situation was hopeless all the “blocks’ were sold out.
Suzanne @ 24
Thanks, Suzanne. It was a busy day, for some reason. But the duct tape is waiting…
Byron York’s hair was at YK last year. Can’t wait to see him tangle with TRex. “THWACK!”
GordonM @ 29
Sorry about not being able to get you those flex cuffs you wanted… was the best i could do on short notice
So, Trex…, tomorrow is Jane’s Birthday, what are you getting her?
Yer killin’ me TRex.
Teddy, what are you taking to YKos?
AZ Matt @ 32
Alberto “Buttercheeks” Gonzales’s tiny balls to wear as earrings.
GordonM @ 21
To contain his ego or to cover up his ‘enormous’ private parts?
Hoist a martini for me guys, I will be there in spirit(s).
Suzanne @ 34
A fiance who wants to meet all my “friends in the computer.”
Oilfieldguy @ 33
I was thinking today about the “disappeared” and OFG was on my mental list.
I can’t go this year, but I hope to go next. The last summer before the election!!
Hey OFG!
TeddySanFran @ 38
We get to meet the fiance?!
SWEEEEEEEEET!!
TeddySanFran @ 38
dang, another reason i wish i were going (sigh)
TRex @ 35
LOL!!!!!
CTuttle @ 36
Is there a difference?
Nostalgia for the days when Ashcroft was AG is a particularly virulent form of cognitive dissonance.
AZ Matt @ 32
I give her the sun, for she is so bright.
I give her the moon, for she is so dreamy.
I give her my heart, for she is so tender.
I give her my hopes, for she is so sighted.
I give her my love, for she deserves it.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 44
Get a magnifying glass.
TRex @ 35
Damn, can you even see those without a magnifying glass? Of course, there is the fact that they have never been used.
C-span 2 is rerunning the AGAG ‘testimony’! Here’s a link for high-speed users!
http://www.cspan.org/watch/cs_…..p;Code=CS2
GordonM @ 45
Good question! They both enormous! (In his mind!) ;-)
AZ Matt @ 32
How about an ad hoc one day FDL fund drive as a B-day gift?
CTuttle @ 50
it’s on the tv as we type :) thanks ct
Man, I have such a case of scandal fatigue.
Gonzo, the Padilla trial, pedophile priests, Barry Bonds, NBA referees betting on games, Mike Nifong, Judy Miller, Guantanamo, New Orleans, etc., etc. etc.
“Mommy, make it stop.”
Wish I could go to Chicago. Dammit. I’m going to sulk for a minute.
burnspbesq @ 54
OK. Go listen to fox. And all is well with your world.
CTuttle @ 50
How on earth can you tell it from any of his other testimonies?
Heh. That’s a trick question. The only proper answer is, “I don’t recall.”
See you there TRex. And layers all the way. The convention center will most likely be refrigerated. They all are. I assume you’ll be wearing sLime Green? Wish we could party with Ned and the crew again.
cleter @ 55
You can still come, Clete! Just as long as you don’t mind bunking with meeeeee….
Chicago evenings have actually been on the comfortable side of cool much of this summer
Tonite’s a bit muggy
Me, I’ll be here but I am always here
No Kos plans, no time or $.
Visitors are encouraged to find their way to Taylor Street for Italian Ice one evening and Margies Candies in Bucktown still makes their own ice cream an hot fudge (Margie R.I.P. some 10 years now)
I can’t go, but I got to ask what else are y’all going to do with yourselves in the Windy City? It is truly one of the great restaurant towns in the world and also has a great live music scene, great live theater, and Second City.
RevDeb @ 58
Can’t wait to meet you and some of the other late night lake dwellers.
T-Rex, I think you should make a list of ten question with answers that people NEED to hear, and when an *sshat asks you a stoopid question, pick an answer at random and give it to him/her/it. “Why yes, I saw Alberto Gonzoles testify that he gave the vice president and his chief staff members access to DOJ investigations while his Chief of Staff was being investigated by the DOJ, and I thought it was GREAT that Fitzgerald got a conviction in SPITE of the VP’s access to all the prosecution’s evidence.”
TRex @ 59
Aww. That’s so sweet! But wouldn’t it make Howie jealous?
Alas, I cannot. I have to teach. Plan would’ve worked, if not for those meddling kids!
CTuttle @ 50
And here’s a link for low-speed users.
TRex — and how cool is your cell phone? Was the new cover good? You have to have a sexy phone for Chicago.
Hey, somebody recommend some restaurants!
As an aside, my friend Litbrit and I will be going to tea each day at four at the Four Seasons for anyone who’d like to join us. Litbrit has been really jonesing for a proper British full cream tea.
Christine Edmonson @ 66
I am still waiting for the new faceplate. The crack in my screen is a daily torment to me.
Suzanne @ 53
It’s definitely ‘Must See TV’!!! Even the Repugs are questioning his integrity! Specter pointedly told him that he has crossed the line into perjury! I liked when Specter asked him specifically who would make the decision to select a special prosecutor! Evening, Ma Cheri!!! 8-)
OT..but what a bunch of F*****s
FORT LEWIS, Wash. — Twenty soldiers deployed to Iraq from this Army base were killed in May, a monthly high. That same month, the base announced a change in how it would honor its dead: instead of units holding services after each death, they would be held collectively once a month.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/25/us/…..ref=slogin
Jesus, they kill them and now it’s too much trouble to honor their sacrifice. So now they just crap on the families.
TRex @ 67
Name a genre
I got a recommendation
This ole country boy would spend his entire time in big Chicago shopping, dining out, and dancing all night.. I would pop into the convention about 4 pm through 7 for cocktails and then be on my merry way..
Fortunately TSF has said he will corner Wes Clark for me and I don’t even want to know if spazeboy is giving pirate video lessons.
AZ Matt @ 32
Cheney’s head on a plate? *wink
I am getting excited — saw the line-up of guests on the Yearly Kos website yesterday. Many of my heroes — and especially after his blistering questioning of Gonzales today, Chuck Schumer.
Hope the media sends some brains like David Shuster and not idiots.
I was just thinking today about what to bring to wear — how formal is it? I mean, we will be in the presence of the next president!
is fdl having a brunch again this year at ykos? last year we paid in advance, but this time out i haven’t seen anything mentioned…
TexB @ 62
not to mention the morning glories. Can’t wait to meet Cassie’s aunt and Teddie’s sweetie.
TRex @ 67
Hell, every restaurant I’ve ever eaten at in Chicago was good. mmm. Chinatown.
No YKos for me — just unpacking.
A week from now, I’ll be loading up the moving truck to head to the Kansas City area. It’s amazing how fast you can accumulate stuff, especially with a five year old around.
EvilDrPuma, I just watched every word of it, through the “THIS COUNTRY IS BEING RUN BY CRIMINALS!” shouts from the gallery. I’m a big fan of the Dem senators on the committee, particularly Whitehouse. Arlen talks a good game, but I have a long history of watching Arlen. When it comes right down to it, I think he’ll probably toe the president/vp line.
mack @ 71
I am meeting one of the HORN radio hosts at the convention and taking a cab north to a kosher Chinese place for at least one of the meals. I can already taste it.
TRex @ Top
Blazer, yes. Might be useful for some of those air-conditioned interiors. Besides, it looks good. And it gives you big pockets, which can come in handy.
Suit, your call, though I can’t think of why you’d need one. Although it never hurts to have one handy, just in case.
I’ll be there!
I hope I’m gonna wear my “Imaginary Friend of TRex” t-shirt, but it took me six months to notice that CafePress has such a screwy setup that my design went into “stuff I can buy for myself” (which I didn’t even know they had) instead of “stuff that anyone can buy” and the don’t let you transfer designs between them! WTF?
Now, between our temporary Belorussian children and Ms. Redshift’s birthday tomorrow, I don’t know if I can get it together in time to have it delivered by the convention. Hmph.
Peterr @ 78
I used to live in the Westport area of KC, near the art museum. Mmmm, Jerusalem Cafe has really good falafel. Smokestack Barbecue. Mmm.
Hey Suzanne, here’s a music video with a 10-meter platform in it.
And a fantastic song, to boot.
Peterr @ 78
you’re moving? i missed that. :( i like thinking of you just being over the hill, peterr – kansas city has a lucky congregation :)
DrDick @ 61
And the Cubs are home.
Redshift @ 82
Can you ship it to the hotel? It’d be a shame not to have it there.
Indian – Hema’s Kitchen Devon or Lincoln Park (closer)
Ribs – Honey 1 Bar-B-Que (Bucktown)
Pizza – NOT Ginos East
Stuffed Spinich – Eduardos or Bacinos
Lou Malnati’s for the buttercrust pan pizza ONLY
Thin crust – hit the neighborhoods or go to NY
Japanese – Matsuya (Wrigleyville)
Cajun – Heaven on Seven (The original in the Garland Building ONLY – and the jambalaya is no longer recommended)
Vegitarian – The Chicago Diner in Boyztown
…
cleter @ 77
Hong Min for dim sum. Wall to wall and half the time you are the only gwai lo.
TRex @ 67
My guess is that suin will have the most up to date list annotated, opinionated, and qualitative.
mack @ 60
Oh yeah! Don’t live there but I go outta my way whenever in town to go to Margies. Her son still runs the place, and he doesn’t reveal secrets…I’ve tried. Magical ice cream and hot fudge.
Worth a cab ride.
burnspbesq @ 84
dialup – gonna take me a couple hours for it to load… thanks burns
cleter @ 83
You are definitely talking my language. Both are high, high on my list. I’ll miss having a winery down the street, but not having to pack a case of Smokestack’s BBQ sauce in the suitcase at Christmas will be a decent tradeoff.
Peterr,
KC?
My condolences
Great Barbeque, beautiful fountains, surprising art museum, and nothing else…..
JGabriel @ 81
Blazer, yes. Windowpane check shirt (Tattersal), and don’t forget to polish those good shoes (Shipton & Heneage or Charles Tyrwhitt shoes)!!
How Smokestack BBQ makes that Burnt Ends platter that’s all crispy surface bits is a mystery. It’s some kind of crazy topographical impossibility, yet oh so yummy.
burnspbesq @ 86
playing the Phillys and then the Mets. Gonna be hard tickets to get. Good hot dogs though.
Trex
pack lite, you just might end up doing some shopping
Peterr @ 78
Peterr, you must go to Arthur Bryant’s. You will leave happier than you’ve ever been. Seriously belching, but happy. I lived in Midtown for several great years.
Chicago Jazz tip
Harry’s Velvet Room, Tuesday night open mike
mack @ 94
It’s nice if you live in Midtown or Westport. Out in the burbs, though? Shit, might as well live in Orlando. Except for the snow and crappy roads.
Shadowstalker @ 99
DrDick @ 89
except that hong min burned down.
over three years ago, now. . .
a mail-order store is there, now.
phoenix is good, on cermak — but hong min
was the very best. . . and so,
i too, will be in chicago that
entire week — will be popping
in and out of the mcormack
convention center. . . so, yes,
i will definitely be there!
cleter @ 101
Peterr @ 87
I’ve got friends in Chicago I can ship it to if I need to; the real limit now is my time. And I really wanted to have them available for everyone to get. But we’ll see, maybe I’ll be able to rustle up enough time to get it together. I’ll post if I do.
cleter @ 101
You can get from anywhere to anywhere in under 45 minutes in Kansas City. In the Bay Area, 45 minutes is a good start on getting somewhere. I will NOT miss the traffic nightmares or MUNI (SF mass transit) breakdowns.
3 Happiness is the classic Dim Sum sopt – kinda a dump tho
Phoenix is a tad hotter now
I’ll check with my Chinatown connection to see what the latest is
OH
Get up early Sunday morning and head over to the market at Canal Street for tacos at Green Hous Steak’s tent or best of all – Lencho’s
Peterr @ 106
wait til it snows
mack @ 98
I usually pack a collapsible soft-sided bag in my luggage for hauling home the trophies.
burns (hands on hips) that diver is topless!
(that’s as far as the video has loaded)
nolo @ 103
Shit. That’s what happens when your gone for 9 years.
peterr,
in all seriouness, I truly hope your experience is better than mine
I had a pretty wild and wonderful year in hindsight, I guess, but never looked back.
And, it hass been over 20 years….
Peterr,
We close on our new house 3 days after I get home from YKos and move the following week. I’m already up to my eyebrows in packing boxes. Gotta get as much done before I go to Chi. as possible. Spouse wisely didn’t try too hard to stop me from going to YK2.
Sigh. I so wish I could go play.
For anyone looking for the decadent, try the “chocolate buffet” at the Peninsula. Chocolate treats in every form.
Mmmmmmm. Chocolate….
Another Chicago food site to add to your list is The Parthenon (314 S. Halstead) — really good Greek food.
back to Chicago restaurant tips
best to head out to the neighborhoods – the mag mile is largly overpriced and undistinguished (with some exceptions)
and as observed, siun should have hyde park pretty well covered ;)
Nola Sue @ 114
Nola, You could take Amtrack.
Nola Sue @ 114
ooooohhhhhhhhhhh nnnnnnnnooooooooooooo my weaknessssssssssss…………………..
Don’t know if I’ll wear my tinfoil hat this year or not, though it was a pretty cool design last year.
bonkers @ 91
I completely agree. Other recommendations from this once-and-perhaps-future Chicago resident: Penny’s Noodle Shop, and Apart Pizza on Montrose near Lincoln (quite a ways from YKos, but I’ll probably find an excuse to hit it anyway).
Suzanne @ 110
And?
Suzanne @ 110
Relax, Ma’am! It’s a guy in Speedos!!!
Pizza – Pizzaria Uno or Giordano’s
And remember you’re talking about Chicago pizza. None of this “it’s so thin some folks mistake it for crackers” that you find in St. Louis, or “fold your slice in half to eat it” stuff from NY. This is knife and fork pizza, so thick and rich and chewy . . .
Hmmmm . . . Have I packed away my deep dish pizza pan yet?
Sigh. I wish I could be there this year.
Here’s hoping that everyone has a great time and advances our cause. I’ll be there in spirit, for what that’s worth.
mack @ 116
If you like Viet Namese, head to Argyle St., but be careful, as it is a dicey neighborhood. Greek Town on south Halstead is also good. Greek Polish restaurants on north Milwaukee. Great Korean food in K-Town. Indian on Devon Ave.
Swopa @ 120
Apart Pizza is new to me
Opart Thai by there is great tho ;)
Well good night all. Best to the movers (Peterr! RevDeb and mister!) and the machers….hope you Kos folks revel in the colloquy, cuisine and (dang, what else starts with c-?). Aw shucks, have a great time and don’t forget to bring back pictures and a t-shirt!
love,
L.
OH! C-HOCOLATE!
Who mentioned chocolate?
Snack is up.
Peterr @ 123
The original Unos or Dues (less crowded) Accept no substitutions.
Peterr @ 123
Let me know if you find passible pizza in KC
One of my greatest frusstrations was the dearth of garlic
RevDeb @ 129
It;s a date!
And remember
Chicago is the only city that smells of chocolate in the morning
Though not nearly so much thanks to the frickin EPA
(don’t they have something better to do?)
g’night Laura.
I think I will folllow your lead.
Eureka Springs @ 117 —
No longer in NOLA — but it’ll always be home and a big part of who I am. Sadly, I live even closer to Chicago, on the other side, so travel isn’t the issue and it’s that much more frustrating I can’t just hop on down. Just life stuff, Little Sue on summer break, etc.
So I’ll live vicariously through the tales of the firepups!
My hand is raised! I was thinking there might be a few dresser uppers at night for candidates? So I thought more casual for the day but not sloppy jeans and pajamas and stuff.
I CAN HARDLY WAIT TO MEET (atsffs) my friends in the computer!
oh well
sleepytime here
anyone who wants can contact me via facebook
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=552468938
)wordpress won’t let me log in – …)
JGabriel @ 81
I generally wear a blazer on the plane on general principles of “when official people may hassle you, you want to look upscale”. Once in Chicago – well, you’ve got it if you want it.
Add one tie, one pair of dress pants and you can go to most places if you want to.
Night Laura, RevDeb, & Mack.
Mack@130
There was a pizza place whose name I have forgotten, at 52nd and Troost, across from the college….great pizza, bottomless beer. None of that “use a spoon” Chicago-style pizza or do-origami NYC style, either….this was wafer thin, slathered and smothered with toppings stuff. This was in the mid-80s when it took cojones to walk there from midtown.
burnspbesq @ 121
dialup – still loading burns
Redshift @ 119
You had the best tinfoil hat. I hope YK2.0 isn’t too important to have another Alcoa Workshop.
Sleep well to all the sleepy pups.
Happy Birthday Jane!
Congratulations on the new house Rev Deb.
I look forward to meeting you, TRex. Will there be another FDL meet and greet there?
I’m helping Second Life tape some of the panels and the keynote events will be streamed live, so that folks who can’t attend can watch at YearlyKos in Second Life. Sort of a cool idea really.
A question: Does anyone know if we can get to the YK convention center from the Hyatt hotel without going outside?
mack @ 130
About as good as I found before moving west 10 years ago was d’Bronx in Westport. Once I resigned myself to not finding Chicago-style pizza, it was pretty good. I’ll be looking, though, to see if anyone has opened something new.
And Rev Deb’s right: the original Unos or Dues — no substitutes! In fact, some would say eating a substitute is culinary counterfeiting.
Loo Hoo. @ 135
Yes we don’t want to look like DFH’s to the weenie eaters. I think we surprised them last year, but there will probably be a different batch this year. And the ones that look like wingnuts probably are. They tried to go incognito last year but were pretty noticeable.
Shadowstalker @ 139
Waldo Pizza?
Headed home, gang.
Waaaay OT, from the “I’m not sure what to think about this” file.
There is a plan under what appears to be quite serious consideration to build a new home stadium for the Northern Ireland national soccer team … on the former site of the Maze prison.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/n…..mp;cc=5901
Maybe there’s a lesson here for us. Tear down Gitmo and replace it with a spring training complex?
I know what I am bringing! I’ve got it! I have a statue of liberty hat. But I think I will skip the face paint.
‘Night Mr Rex
Got to go — not to sleep, but back to packing boxes.
Later, everyone!
he’ll be back as soon as he gets home, cleter
Garlic is DEAD??!!
I didn’t know he was sick!
Peterr @ 152
Have fun packing
cleter@147
The name Waldo’s rings a bell, so quite possibly that was it. Good stuff, great times. Wouldn’t have traded those years for the world.
TeddySanFran @ 141
Thanks! It was good enough to get me on the front page of the Drudge Report, which was kind of amusing. (It might not have been amusing if their efforts to paint us as a bunch of wackos hadn’t failed so miserably, but it did!)
AZ Matt @ 32
She likes mukluks. What’s her caribou clad foot size?
DrDick @ 49
Mint in box?
Night Peterr. Good luck with the move.
Got a question, or a tip, about John Edwards’ hair? WaPo Premier Investigative Money & Politics Reporter John Solomon chatz at 11am eastern.
Better yet!! Dan Froomkin at 1pm eastern
Redshift @ 159
I’d be surprised if they’ve been near a box.
THHHUUUUH YANKEES WIN!!! 9-4 in Kansas City. Now ‘only’ 7 behind Boston in the loss column and 4 behind Cleveland in wildcard standings.
They have won 16 of the last 21.
Go Yanks.
BTW, thank you Suzanne for that email.
so, for those of us not going, exactly when i am gonna be here by myself? what are the days of ykos?
Anyone know if there’s going to be a Firedoglake caucus (or whatever it was called) this year? That was one of the best events from last year, but I don’t see it on the schedule.
And what’s up with having the Libby Trial roundtable at 9:30am on Thursday? I doubt I’ll be able to get there before Thursday afternoon. Pout.
you are welcome, big mitch
Since being banned from Dkos over a year ago, I have no interest in his site or his YK. I only go to Daily kos when a thread is recommended by a Deaniac.
I’ve probably read three such threads this entire year.
http://www.ctshirts.co.uk/depa…..Footwear#1
hope I haven’t cut off any of this site.
August 1-5.
Oh, I am I on the wrong blog? Is this a sports blog now?
Ok, pups, I need some help making a decision.
There are three concerts in SoCal in the next two nights, each of which features two artists that I really like. I can only go to one.
(1) John Hiatt and Shawn Colvin, at the Grove in Anaheim.
(2) Guster and Toad the Wet Sprocket, at the Orange County Fair.
(3) Lyle Lovett and k.d. lang, at the Greek.
I’ve seen Hiatt, Lovett, and lang before.
Thoughts?
Better to just check for myself online.
lyle and kd (if he has his large band with him), burns
What did you do to get banned Subway? (I hope it was not making one sports reference per night.)
“Screw world peace! I want a pony!”
I am SO ordering one of those shirts.
Suzanne @ 165
You won’t be by yourself, dear! I’m not able to get the time off work, so I’m not going either, damn it.
Redshift @ 159
Dipped, but never filled. A small amount of brassing on the cap band. In need of a new sac.
TheOtherWA @ 176
And I will be here as well.
Suzanne @ 165
August 2-5, though I doubt you’ll be alone. In addition to those who aren’t going, last year a bunch of us were blogging from the hallways to share with our distant firepups so they could be there virtually at least. (Lots of us thought it was really important not to allow a divide to develop in the community between the attendees and non-attendees.)
Lyle, Burn.
Peterr, best with the move. You too, RevDeb, with the packing.
burnspbesq @ 177
I don’t get it. You guys are saying Gonzo has no balls. There’s plenty to criticize the lying rat-bastard for, but what he did today took the balls of a blind burglar. Do you know anyone who could lie so transparently and so heedlessly of the consequences? I don’t.
Do the kos people wear orange DLC t-shirts? *ducking*
Suzanne, I thought it was part of our job to keep you guys posted. Betsy is going to be our late night photographer, and you know how quickly she can get the photos up!
I can’t stand Malkin. I read her daily, so I really can’t stand her. I would love to see some monitoring of hate speech on her site that could then be reported to Fox/O’Reilly and their sponsors, with calls for her to be taken off his show.
Is it worth the effort?
BigMitch @ 181
That’s not balls, that’s teh stoopid combined with the knowledge that he will never be held accountable because Dubya will pardon him if he is prosecuted (or simply order the US attorneys to ignore the case).
Subway Serenade @ 168
hmm many questions. section 47 I think.
it takes real balls to stand up and tell the truth when you yourself may be in jeopardy.
From the WaPo:
Meanwhile, the Goopers are watching Fox News on the Bus…
I will not be attending. If I did I would have on my S. Bartman :Renagades 92′ T-shirt. Its a long time favorite of Cub’s fans….
DrDick @ 178
Hello friends. Just got back from Long Beach Airport, dropped off my dear sweet daughter who’s heading back to DC.
And, Suzanne. I will be here.
Sound like fun. Wish I could go. Have fun storming the castle.
from that wapoo link:
marcy is gonna have out all her highlighters going through 300 footnotes.
Monk @ 184
Attacking a TV personality by going after the advertisers is a very high stakes gamble. In a nutshell, the right wing can play this game with much more discipline and commitment than we have heretofore demonstrated.
If I had a wish, it would be that at the Daily Kos there is a discussion about how to coordinate this kind of action. Until something is in place, there are big risks. Just imagine what would happen if O’Reilly went after KO’s advertisers.
Look at what happened to Jet Blue. Basically they are sponsors of YKOS’07 sub rosa and they are vilified even in these left leaning precincts. Maybe this experience will move the Kossacks to consider how they can coordinate efforts.
AZ Matt @ 188
About. God. Damned. Time.
The road to enlightenment is filled with a thousand side trips.
Suzanne @ 193
As is the road to action.
burnspbesq @ 195
Yep.
technical ?
If I’ve lost my refresh button, do I reboot?
Dang, I’m gone for a week and I forget everything.
Hey, Demi! Nice to see you around.
demi @ 198
Probably just quit your browser and relaunch. Works for me.
demi, just do a hard refresh of the page. only have to do a browser reboot if that doesn’t work.
Suzanne — going to Chicago doesn’t change my need for lying down in the evenings. I’ll be logging in from the hotel.
Welcome All!!
If you don’t have time to do anything else. During lunch one day walk on the lake front from McComick place to the Shedd Aquatium. Hang a right to the Adler Planterium and about 3/4 of the way out to the Planterium from the shedd (about 1/4 mile) take a seat on the grass looking back at the city. Lived here all my life and never grow tired of that view.
See ya all there!!
DrDick @ 197
Anyone found a link to full text yet? I looked on Conyers’ site and on House Judiciary, but couldn’t find it.
just popping in … still have work to finish tonight so this is drive by but Chicago … what to do and where to eat?
Mack is a real pro for ChiTown so listen to him.
Then again, I remain astonished that each new restaurant I go to in Chicago becomes my favorite – until the next new one. (And even the swanky spots are so much better priced than say DC or NYC)
My current list of faves:
Green Zebra – astonishing mostly vegetarian small plates and true love of food
Heaven on Seven as Mack said though I am quite happy with the one at 600 Michigan – and adore their fried green tomatoes in remoulade
Vivo – good (not hyper brilliant but really good) Italian and the greatest attitude going … a perfect place for a group and a lot of drinks
Aria – for pricey meal but really interesting menu and perfect service.
or find Rick Perlstein and ask him where the Ethiopian place he’s raving about is located!
Be careful around McCormick … the complex is designed to keep you trapped there and paying super high prices for everything (tip – if you are staying there, find a convenience store and stock up on water, soda, whatever – I paid $5 for a bottle of water when I toured the place) … but hop the bus and get into Chicago at every opportunity.
For transportation, taxis are reasonable in price but the buses and el are great and cheap. Plan your trip at this site: Chicago Transit Authority
Off site fun:
Architecture tours – home of the skyscraper and an architecture obsessed city … these are great and don’t miss the river cruise (which sounds tacky touristy but is really a wonderful break and intro to Chicago)
Hancock Tower – skip the tour and observatory level and go to the restaurant for a drink instead – same astonishing view and one drink won’t break the bank (but a meal might)
Crepes Saturday morning at the Lincoln Park Green Market (but I’ll be speaking at 9:15 so wait for me!!!!) and then stroll over to the zoo or North Avenue Beach.
Art Institute – a joy, one of Howie’s favorite places too! (and all the other museums – too many to even think about)
Free concerts in Millenium Park – which is a great spot – bring a picnic! (there’s free chicago blues the night of the 2nd!)
and that’s just a start … pick up a Chicago Reader if you are … gasp… bored …. they list almost everything.
WaPo Editorial board throws Abo under the bus
AZ Matt @ 188
What does it take for the WaPo to put this news on page fucking one??
Siun @ 205
Is that Mama Desta’s Red Sea Restaurant on Clark, just north of Belmont? One of my old time favs.
Subway Serenade @ 168
Shhhhhhhhh.
I hardly ever go over there myself. I’m just going to the convention for attention.
OK Chicagoans. Pitch in with ideas for the out of towners. Here’s a start.
1.)If you have a rent-a-car seek out lower Wacker Drive. You can get across town in 5 minutes.
2.)Skip “BillyGoat” Belushi once said it wasn’t them that inspired “Cheezeborger, Cheezeborger.”
3.)Take a Wendala boat ride on the Chicago River.
4.) Gotta see the “Bean” at millenium park. Everyone does but it’s still cool.
5.) I hear the new river walk is cool.
OK enough from boring old me…
Rebooted, but still no refresh. Oh well.
I’ve missed you guys and am not going to Chicago. It’s been a really strange week. But, I did get to catch some of the Buttercheeks Nonshow this morning.
Whitehouse is So Hot!
OK. very weird chicago question. i very rarely travel.
My wheelchair has air tires that will need to be pumped up when I get to chicago because the chair travels under the plane. It will be fine for the floor of the airport, but not for hotel with carpet. since i am taking a shuttle bus and not renting a car.
so do i take a little hand pump along? or have one of the locals bring the tires to a gas station for me? (use gas station or jiffy lube at home.) any ideas?
I’ll be there too, TRex. Can’t wait to see you all.
TexB @ 212
TexB – O’Hare or Midway Airport? You may be able to get it done as soon as you clear the gate. I’ll check.
Suzanne @ 187
Just a random thought for Late Night…
This idea of someone having “the balls”, or cajones, or stones (pick your own phrase) is somewhat meaningless to me. I understand the point, but wish people would think about it more.
It comes from and reinforces male dominance in our society.
Men=tough. Women=wimpy and weepy.
Me Tarzan. You Jane.
My opinion changed after assisting my wife during our two homebirths. Women are SO much tougher than men, physically and mentally. I laugh now when a sportcaster makes a big deal about an athlete carrying on even though they might be injured.
I realize this seems trivial, but might spark some interesting comments, and does matter to me. I’m disgusted at how our society treats women, especially mothers. Shameful!
OHare
TexB @ 212
Check with the airport?
Monk @ 184
No, dude. She thrives on that shit like a brush fire thrives on dry vegetation. She would looooooove for us to start a shooting war with her, if only to prove that she’s actually relevant.
No, I would only do an Malkin advertiser harassment campaign with John Aravosis and his readers on board from the get-go. His readers are as vocal and determined as hers, but oh, so much smarter. Our readers tend to be really nice people, for better or worse.
No, we like Malkin right where she is, in full view, making a gibbering fool of herself daily. People in the middle already hate her. All she has left is O’Reilly and her fans.
BigMitch @ 194
,
I hear you about the need for discipline. But I’m not so sure O’Reilly is as powerful as he tells everone he is. Remember his boycott of France? Remember Al Franken’s poke in the eye at the book convention of several years ago? More importantly, remember Andrea Mackris? And Olberman knows how to yank his chains.
O’reilly goes on these attacks and then just announces victory without any evidence to support his claim.
Getting back to the real issue..it’s the need for discipline on our side.
bonkers @ 215
While in theory I agree with you, in personal conversations I don’t get too up about pronouns or gendered terms. I might say Hey Guys to a bunch of gals. I’ve been known to say I’ve got a bigger dick than some particular man…but in public conversations, I always go with inclusive language.
Jeralyn Merritt @ 213
Oh Boy!
Teddy, if you’re still around, or anyone who knows, will there be a full schedule of events? I looked at the one you showed us the other night, Teddy, but it wasn’t specific. For instance, it didn’t name speakers. Will we be getting a complete schedule upon check-in?
bonkers @ 215
As an anthropologist I can assure you that in many ways it is males who are the frail flowers. Women have greater endurance and greater tolerance for pain (which would explain second children). Men die at a higher rate than women at every age from birth onward (there is also evidence that male fetuses are more likely to spontaneously abort). There are also a number of sexually selective diseases (i.e., smallpox) which invariably kill more men than women.
Maybe Orilley will show up with his news camera crew! What fun that would be! I hope everyone brings video cameras!
Women just ARE better. Men need to say that they are.
Fozzetti @ 223
If orally is going to be there, be sure to bring rotten tomatoes.
TexB @ 224
women are better.
LooHoo – I know they were printing a program so I think everyone will get a schedule on check in.
TRex @ 218
Dang, TRex! Are you implying we’re a meek and mild set of readers??? We’re certainly a nicer crop than most Blog site fans, but, beware our wrath!!!
DrDick @ 222
Some of the higher death rate for males is attributable to greater risk taking, no? If so, it implies that men are greater risk takers, and the metaphore has a “grain of truth.”
TexB @ 224
Oh, now, I wouldn’t say that. I think it’s more of an to each their own thing. In my experience it’s an individual thing.
TexB @ 212
You are not going to believe this… Arrive @ O’Hare, find any phone and call 773-686-7530. The parking squad will come to you and fill them up if your valve stems are like auto valve stems.
My mother lived in Chicago in 2001. We all flew in for Thanksgiving, dressed to the nines and dined out *gasp* atop the Hankock (100th floor?) building at sunset for Thanksgiving dinner.
Was fabulous, good food, nice live jazz, and no cooking. Afterwards we took a horse and carriage ride..
Felt a bit defiant dining that high up, eye to eye with airplanes, just weeks after September 11th.
Thanks, Siun. I came in a little late, is there an FDL round-up planned yet?
TexB @ 224
Hell, yes. They are my first choice.
Auld nature swears,
The lovely dears.
Her noble works she classes.
Her ‘prentice hand
She tried on man,
And then, she made the lasses.
NY Times Editorial which Bush won’t read and recommend
TRex–
If you’re mostly planning to eat reporters, all you really need to pack is a bib. :)
newtonusr @ 231
They are indeed. Wow! wild.
Copying number into phone now.
BigMitch @ 229
To some extent this is true for the 15-30 cohort, but not for the younger and older cohorts. In that same cohort, women (before modern medicine) also died at much higher rates from complications in childbirth.
TexB @ 224
Bingo! We have a winnah!
As a male, I wonder if we deep down know we’re inferior and that security leads to a tendency to dominate women (now Orally can take that quote and say how much the dirty liberal bloggers hate men).
Obviously, male humans play an important role in our existence, but there’s no reason societies should be should so male-dominated. I guess that’s what bothers me.
Having said that, dear goD, please don’t let Hillary get the nomination. There will be other chances to have a female Prez. She is not the one.
bonkers @ 215
Camille Paglia says if women ran things, we’d still be living in grass huts.
Dang, TRex! Are you implying we’re a meek and mild set of readers??? We’re certainly a nicer crop than most Blog site fans, but, beware our wrath!!!
Nice. Nice? TRex, you don’t know us at all. We are some narly mother fuc*ers right here, buddy-boy. Watch your back.
thread above
AZ Matt @ 235
Speaking of which, one of my congresscritters, Neil Abercrombie, uber-liberal, has paired up with the Tenn. Bluedog, Tanner! They seek an amendment demanding, within 60 days, a detailed plan for withdrawal from Irak! 8-)
bonkers @ 239
make that “insecurity”
From the Muckraker:LINK
Well, I think I will turn in now. Take care and enjoy the snark.
Hey! C’mon upstairs, the Snark is fine!
Though this is a fun discussion, too…
Diva
The very strong and powerful women (surgical and meical residents) I worked alongside talked about having “the gonads”.
Who am I to argue with people who can reach all body cavities and most organs with very fat needles.
Gonads it is, ladies. :)
Boy, am I late to this thread! But I just wanted to add my 2 cents and say that I’m going to be in Chicago with the rest of you. I’m also hoping that this year I can use my unused ticket for the Firepup breakfast that I missed because I was in a coma from the previous night’s festivities in Vegas. My head still hurts. BTW, anyone who can’t go to Chicago can attend the virtual convention in Second Life. I’m the volunteer coordinator for YKSL and will have my feet in both realms at Yearly Kos. Check out the YKSL registration page for more details.
PLovering @ 240
Here’s what Molly Ivins had to say about a recent Paglia book:
“There is one area in which I think Paglia and I would agree that politically correct feminism has produced a noticeable inequity. Nowadays, when a woman behaves in a hysterical and disagreeable fashion, we say, “Poor dear, it’s probably PMS.” Whereas, if a man behaves in a hysterical and disagreeable fashion, we say, “What an asshole.” Let me leap to correct this unfairness by saying of Paglia, Sheesh, what an asshole.”
Goddamn, I miss Molly…
bonkers @ 249
i miss her too:
My opinion Molly Ivins : Demos need to grow spine
yellowdog jim @ 251
Wow. That is fantastic, and thanks for the link. We should all memorize that, and have it serve as the Dems talking points. That’s going in the bookmarks.
bonkers,
glad you liked it.
glad i had it.
glad i could find it.
lots of bookmarks these days.
~ drive careful
“Asst. Principal O’Reilly”
Outstanding!
TexB @ 131
Re: Best Deep Dish Pizza in America: Lil Guy’s My Pi on Damen in Bucktown, just north of Armitage. Try the deep cheese or spinach; 2 slabs is a meal. good fresh salad bar, too.
“beyond Bin laden’s bloodiest dreams”
You’ve got that right.
Saddam was the scourge of Islamic Jihad. Jihad never got any traction or grip on Iraq when he was around. They’ve got one now.
It is obvious that Alqaeda could not sustain any war effort inside America. They had to steal and use airplanes as weapons for chrissake!
Two details you left out.
“The Americans” Jihad wants out of Islam are the American oil companies and other business interests. That’s who Jihad is fighting.
American citizens and taxpayers are being forced to pay the same people the highest oil prices and profits ever while financing (to their own detriment at home) the oil cartel’s wars to prolong their presence in these places.
Or was the Iraq War, worse than being the wrong target in the war on terror, a conscious failed attempt to steal Iraq’s oil interests for their further enrichment for which Americans have died, been maimed and bankrupted?
The second point is the utterly stupid and careless arming of Pakistan. And Pakistan, as anyone with any common sense knows, is the geo-politcal-theo-epi-center of Islamic world Jihad. If civil war erupts there, as in Iraq, it will truly portend WWIII Armageddon or whatever you want to call it. I recall Bush gave Pakistan a number of the highest tech jets capable of delivering “nucular” weapons. This whole arming of Pakistan could come back to haunt America/world in spades as the arming of Iran, Afghanistan and Iraq has done.
Monk @ 219
I pointed out to BigMitch several times that the powerful threat is to make sponsors quaver about their INTERNATIONAL Franchises taking some heat for a host’s racism.
Applebees International has scores of Franchises in Canada, the Middle East (Egypt, Kuwait, Lebanon, Jordan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Dubai), Europe (Greece) and South/Central America (Brazil, Chile, Equador, Guatamala, Honduras, Mexico), as well as Greece and Italy . Applebees would really fear a campaign in which protestors held up quotes of O’Reilly about Mexican undocumented workers outside of their Mexican franchisees…with the comment underneath “APPLEBEES IS A SPONSOR OF BILL O’REILLY!”
http://www.applebees.com/InternationalInfo/
In addition, I-HOP is considering buying Applebee’s and the offer might plummet if there were political tensions like this involved!
have fun at YKos2 TRex and everybody fortunate enough to go. sorry to miss it.
You don’t have to miss it!
I can’t come to Chicago either… but I’ll be there!
Thanks to the magic of www, we can attend YearlKos via the virtual world of Second Life.
Info on the DailyKos site:
http://www.yearlykosconvention.org/yksl
See you all there!
re: going to Koss – everyone pack a power strip! each room has about 2 outlets; quite insufficient for 2 people to power up laptops, cells, cameras, camcorders, and still blowdry ones hair,
Take my “Halliburton, I want my money back” T-shirt.
http://www.cafepress.com/lauriekay2
People love mine!!!!!
Last year everyone was pretty casual – lots of jeans and T shirts. Some of the panelists wore dress clothes. So unless you’re presenting, I don’t think you’ll lose anything by leaving your dress shirts, suits, dress pants, etc. at home. You’ll have much more fun if you’re comfortable.