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Zed?!
Darn, just missed.
Yay!
be vewy, veyw qwiet, I’m hunting SNARK!
Diva
boo!
Hiya, big Mitch!
You want I should tell downstairs?
diva funny.
Cindy Sheehan on Hardball
yellowdog jim @ 6
awwww, fanks, jim!
And I was trying to be funny, so I must _not_ be a RepugnantCan.
What a relief!
(((((((TRex!)))))))
You’re my Snark-o-therapod role model.
Diva
Funnydiva2002 @ 8
not a rethug, no.
teh fun funny
vewy vewy funny.
fanks.
Well, I think I will turn in now. Take care and enjoy the snark.
Zedecile?
Barry Bonds up in a tie game in the bottom of the 10th. He is two behind Hank Aaron on the all time home-run list.
For those that missed it downstairs, chocolate?
DrDick @ 11
G’nite, Dr…..Dick!
Dang, EPU’ed:
AZ Matt @ 235
NY Times Editorial which Bush won’t read and recommend
Editorial
No Exit Strategy
Published: July 25, 2007
The American people have only one question left about Iraq: What is President Bush’s plan for a timely and responsible exit? That is the essential precondition for salvaging broader American interests in the Middle East and for waging a more effective fight against Al Qaeda in its base areas in Pakistan and Afghanistan. And it is exactly the question that Mr. Bush, his top generals and his diplomats so stubbornly and damagingly refuse to answer.
Yesterday provided two more frustrating and shameful examples of this denial. One was a new war plan drawn up by America’s top military commander and top diplomat in Baghdad that will keep American troops fighting in Iraq at least until 2009. The other was yet one more speech by President Bush that claimed that Iraq was the do-or-die front in the war on terrorism — rather than a rallying point for extremists and a never-ending drain on the resources America needs to fight that fight.
The war plan drawn up by Gen. David Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker simply assumes that a large-scale United States military presence in Iraq will continue for at least two more years.
…
Speaking of which, one of my congresscritters, Neil Abercrombie, uber-liberal, has paired up with the Tenn. Bluedog, Tanner! They seek an amendment demanding, within 60 days, a detailed plan for withdrawal from Irak! 8-)
Sleep well Dr D
These guys rule.
These are the signs I put up yesterday:
http://freewayblogger.blogspot…..cisco.html
painting more now.
good night y’all…
TexB @ 14
Awwwww, Betsy! How did you know?
Thank you so much.
What are the rest of the Firepups having?
Diva
TRex thinks we’re nice. That’s what we called the boys in high school we wouldn’t think about dating. You know, like, they had really nice teeth? If they called, we’d say we already had plans (to wash our hair)?
We’ve been disrespected by our own late night dinosaur. But, he seems like a NICE enough guy…
Funnydiva2002 @ 20
Well TRex is eating reporters. And everyone else is sharing with you.
From TPM Muckraker:
G’night Dr. Dick and Scarlet.
TRex, did you put those guys up there so I’d have to agree with TexB that women ARE better?
You silly.
Loo Hoo from the previous thread:
I believe you’ll find that word is spelled “gnarly”, dear.
Sigh.
Would you like some tea?
TexB @ 22
Ugh. Hope he’s got extra-strength Maalox. Bleah.
Diva.
AZ Matt @ 23
Who would be the other Dem in the gang of 8?
Loo Hoo,
I’m telling the principal that you have a potty mouth.
F*ckin’ A, Girl!
Loo Hoo. @ 21
Being a Dood, I left my sentiments about that on the last thread! Hey, TRex! :P!!!
What is it with Alaskan Republicans?
From The Muckraker:Boo-Hoo!
Sleep well, DrD
Good on ya, scarlet p!
BigMitch @ 27
Jane Harman
Bringing the Animals Into the Food Debate
By KIM SEVERSON
Animal rights activists move from the margin to the mainstream.
THE first farm animal Gene Baur ever snatched from a stockyard was a lamb he named Hilda.
That was 1986. She’s now buried under a little tombstone near the center of Farm Sanctuary, 180 acres of vegan nirvana here in the Finger Lakes region of upstate New York.
Back then, Mr. Baur was living in a school bus near a tofu factory in Pennsylvania and selling vegetarian hot dogs at Grateful Dead concerts to support his animal rescue operation.
Now, more than a thousand animals once destined for the slaughterhouse live here and on another Farm Sanctuary property in California. Farm Sanctuary has a $5.7 million budget, fed in part by a donor club named after his beloved Hilda. Supporters can sign up for a Farm Sanctuary MasterCard. A $200-a-seat gala dinner in Los Angeles this fall will feature seitan Wellington and stars like Emily Deschanel and Forest Whitaker.
As Farm Sanctuary has grown, so too has its influence. Soon, due in part to the organization’s work, veal calves and pregnant pigs in Arizona won’t be kept in cages so tight they can’t turn around. Eggs from cage-free hens have become so popular that there is a national shortage. A law in Chicago bans the sale of foie gras.
And earlier this month, the New Jersey Supreme Court agreed to hear a case concerning common farming practices that a coalition led by Farm Sanctuary says are inhumane.
All of these developments reflect the maturation and sophistication of Mr. Baur and others in a network of animal activists who have more control over America’s dinner table than ever before.
NYTimes
Oh AZ MATT — you have made my DAY!
Cup of tea? Please.
AZ Matt @ 30
They like living in the dark six months of every year, and want that darkness to go on year-round.
Cave-dwellers, y’know….
BigMitch @ 34
Doesn’t VECO’s illegalities now embrace your entire congressional delegation now???
gosh, alaska is losing rethugs right and right.
Loo Hoo. @ 35
One lump or two?
Lemon or milk?
TexB @ 14
ah, my weakness.
ever heard of anandamide?
the “bliss drug”.
chocolate … mmmmm …
but i’m fasting now for my blood test(s) tomorrow.
i have a physical on the 3rd, so i do the test in the morning and get nothing to eat tioll they take my blood.
may your pilgrimage be blessed.
Suzanne @ 38
Bush will commute their sentances.
You know, I really can’t wait to see the Republican version of the YouToobz Q&A…women clutching their pearls asking which hunka burning love will save them when the rains come.
Mebbe the boyz will ask the suits about Fred Thompson???
demi @ 28
The principal knows. So does the superintendent!
yellowdog jim @ 40
May all your blood test prove negative from harm.
AZ Matt @ 41
If Shrub is still around by then…!
Loo Hoo. @ 43
That, I believe!
Don’t burn your tongue on your tea.
burns, if you are still around, that is a cool song (and diving platform shot)
War: The disease, its vector, and its cause.
CTuttle @ 45
so many pardons so little time.
AZ Matt @ 41
Bush would sell Alaska back to the Russians if Cheney thought there was a buck or two in it for him. That way, the Russians would be part of our missile defense system, whether they like it or not….
Hey, Don! Can you speak Roosky?
TRex @ 39
Perhaps lots of lemon would be best at this point!
CTuttle @ 45
He’ll give them (and all other loyal Rethugs) a prophyllactic pardon before he leaves office. And then he’ll have another colonoscopy so that Cheney can pardon him. (That’s my theory, and I’m sticking to it.)
argosfalcon @ 44
Thanks.
kind of you.
i wasn’t hungry
until i wrote that i couldn’t eat.
Madison Guy @ 48
Can a bad idea be a disease, if so can we isolate those which carry it, but who is to say “bad idea” and there lays a danger.
Tea is served.
TexB @ 14
Ummmm. Good Evening Betsy. May I have one of each?
SunnyNobility @ 56
Certainly Sunny. No calories.
guess I can have no treat, but rust never sleeps (but I do) and remember, sometimes that which is given, may come around to bite us. Sorry the pest.
do-si-do @ 42
I eagerly await their ‘Body Language’ with the inevitable questions about Iraq!!! ;-)
if the republicans are going to do a YouTube debate, I am gonna submit a question:
Gentlemen, American Citizens like me are concerned that if one of you is elected president, will our babies be safe?
This is my baby…
(I will then reach offscreen and produce a massive framed copy of the Constitution.)
This is the United States Constitution, purchased in the late 1770s with the blood of American Patriots. I am worried about habeus corpus and the creeping consolidation of power by the executive branch.
Gentlemen, what are your positions on Checks and Balances and the limiting of a unitary executive?
Good night my friends.
G’night, Betsy
Sleep well and pain free!
Diva
G’nite TexB. Sleep peacefully.
Good night, TexB. I am headed that way m’self.
Night, all.
patrick @ 60
Man, that’s a keeper!
Shhhhhh.
I’m trying to convince Pach, Christy, and Jane that we should dress up as ABBA for at least one night of the convention.
So far, they’re not so into it.
TRex, you get my mail earlier?
For those who are distraught about our Constitutional Crisis, here’s Molly Ivins:
“So keep fightin’ for freedom and justice, beloveds, but don’t you forget to have fun doin’ it. Lord, let your laughter ring forth. Be outrageous, ridicule the fraidy-cats, rejoice in all the oddities that freedom can produce. And when you get through kickin’ ass and celebratin’ the sheer joy of a good fight, be sure to tell those who come after how much fun it was.”
For Molly’s sake, do something everyday.
TexB @ 55
We’re going to have ourselves a time, girlfriend!
I was going to say gonna, but I was afraid TRex would put that inside asterisks.
TRex @ 66
now that an image, press on.
patrick @ 60
Please Do!!! Pretty please, with sprinkles and a cherry on top!!!
Winter, spring, fall and summer
If someone’s doin’ something dumb,
An Alaskan does it dumber.
Here’s a brief refresher course in Alaskan politics.
Ted Stevens, one of the longest serving Senators is referred to as “Alaska’s Senator for Life.” They named the airport after him.
His son, Ben Stevens is a spoiled brat, who, on the strength of his name alone, became the Speaker of the State House. There, he presided over a bunch of crooks who proudly called themselves the “Corrupt Bastards Club.”
The FBI served some search warrants on the offices of the Republican legislators, so it came as no surprise when three of them were indicted, though some were surprised that Ted’s little boy wasn’t among them. The indictment did refer to payments to an un-named Senator on a date, and in an amount that matched something on Steven’s disclosure forms, which he attributed to “consulting income.”
The payments in the indictment came from executives from VECO, an indigenous oilfield service company. The President and another officer have pled guilty, and the indictments referred to tape-recordings, so, the presumption of innocense is not as strong as it might be.
In the midst of it all, it was revealed that a major remodel of Ted Stevens home in a suburb of Anchorage was completed, and the construction was supervised by the same oil-field service company, VECO. (The construction consisted of raising the building and bulding another story under the existing building.
There have been the usual number of sweetheart deals involving land in Alaska, but this week another one hit the presses. Lisa Murkowski, our junior senator, who succeeded her father, when he became governor and appointed her to his seat, was revealed to have purchsed a piece of property at $100,000 below fair market value. It’s her first scandal, but give her time.
On April 23rd, I wrote here,
In that same blog, I spoke about how Don Young is vulnerable to an election challenge because of his record on the Northern Mariana’ Islands, a subject near and dear to at least one firepup, DoverBitch.
So far, only one person has registered to oppose Don Young in the next election. That would be Diane Benson, and our own intrepid Ed*uard Teller is working on her campaign. (She lost to him last time, and previously ran as a Green candidate for Governor.)Smelling blood, the Dems are talking about putting up a candidate who has had a good legislative career. Ms. Benson has one qualification that nobody would envy. Her son was a casualty in Iraq.
There was one Alaskan politician that some here might embrace. He got the silver medal in his one race.
picturing a 60 ft therapod and a 600 plus inca warrior wearing blonde wigs… oh my
I like that question, too, Patrick!
TexB @ 67
Yes, and yes to your question.
I am cooking dinner right now, so I am going to have to answer your email a little later.
Good night, y’all.
I’ve got a lot of reading to catch up on.
mitch, you thinking of doverbitch?
aggggghhhh make that a 600 plus year inca warrior…
Suzanne @ 77
Yes, that’s it. Thank you.
here is db’s blog, mitch. she recapped the hearing last week re the nmi.
argosfalcon @ 54
bad memes exist.
like the cheneyBu$hco disease aka
‘bush derangement syndrome’.
levy says its “malignant egophrenia“.
levy refers to our collective psychosis.
Here’s a good one from the NYT. Too many deaths in Irak, so they’re thinking of doing funerals once a month:
The anger and hurt were immediate. Soldiers’ families and veterans protested the change as cold and logistics-driven. Critics online said the military was trying to repress bad news about deaths. By mid-June, the base had delayed the plan.
[Its commander, Lt. Gen. Charles H. Jacoby, was expected to decide Wednesday whether to go through with it.]
“If I lost my husband at the beginning of the month, what do you do, wait until the end of the month?” asked Toni Shanyfelt, who said her husband was serving one of multiple tours in Iraq. “I don’t know if it’s more convenient for them, or what, but that’s insane.”
Suzanne @ 80
Wasn’t the hearing scheduled for today? (Tues)
Here’s an interesting thing, grossly off-topic and marginally about sports. I am watching the Atlanta-San Francisco game which had Atlanta ahead 4-0 going into the ninth. The Giants tied it up, after they were within one strike of losing, twice.
The interesting thing is that right at the bottom of the ninth inning, a huge flock of seagulls arrived. They have learned to come to the ball park when the game ends, because they can pick up after the fans leave.
Isn’t nature grand? I am sure the seagulls were disappointed to see the game go into extra innings, and the fans were disappointed when Atlanta scored 3 in the top of the 13th.
Loo Hoo, it would seem the Gen. is tired of attending so many funerals, 21 in the past month alone! Hmmm… How many has Shrub attended!
bonkers @ 68
i miss her too:
(i de-EPUed myself from downstairs.)
hi bonkers.
we meet again.
BigMitch @ 84
Used to happen @ Candlestick, too. They hear the dinner bell.
Loo Hoo. @ 82
They already tried this at Fort Lewis in Washington, but it was loudly criticized by everyone, and they backed down.
I’m very surprised they’re doing it anywhere.
Loo Hoo. @ 82
I recall a story like this a few months ago? Is this the same fort?
It’s awful, I agree, terrible….no respect. I know this sounds calculating, and it is, but take plenty of photos, dammit, and send to DC, and publish them everywhere.
:(
CTuttle @ 85
I believe he made it a policy early on not to attend funerals at all. Guess he didn’t want to show favoritism. Wasn’t it Rumsfeld, when called on using signature stamps, decided to actually sign letters of regret?
TheOtherWA @ 88
Actually, OtherWA, I followed the link to the story from an earlier thread and, surprise, they were talking about Ft Lewis.
Glad to hear they’ve backed down.
Diva
Loo Hoo. @ 90
Yes, you remember correctly.
Wait a minute, they did back down, but the NYTimes article is ABOUT Ft. Lewis. WTF do they think they’re doing?
That would be a really bad idea, dude. Just saying.
TheOtherWA @ 93
Awww, c’mon OtherWa, give the poor journalists a break! I mean, fact-checking and follow-up are, like, tough. (Let’s go shopping…)
Sheesh
Diva
OK, looks like it’s a quiet night here at the lake. Good excuse for me to hit the pillow a bit early.
Goodnight, Everypup!
Diva
gnight Diva
g’nite diva. sleep well
It has been a strange day, what with Abu Bullshit and all. I can’t wait to hear what Jane Harmon says about AG^2 and whether or not his retelling of the meeting with the gang of 8 has any semblance to the truth. Tomorrow, we will see about inherent contempt on Harriet Meiers. It’s getting to the point that even if Dems want to avoid a showdown, it is being forced on them.
Step back and think about it. A major democracy has had its chief law inforcement officer called a liar by the majority party. If nothing happens, then …. I don’t know what.
RedState Update is hilarious! Started looking through their other videos and couldn’t stop. And speaking of ‘journalists’, check out this YouTube clip where they’re on CNN.
I swear the woman anchor doesn’t realize it’s a joke. Maybe she’s starting understand by the end, but I’m not so sure. What a sad, sad state our media has become.
All the more reason to donate to FDL! Oh, and it’s Jane’s birthday, so make sure to show your appreciation for having an alternative to the vacuous airheads.
Funnydiva2002 @ 95
Actually I meant Ft. Lewis, but the Times could use a reality check once in a while too. :)
BigMitch @ 99
***
Mitch: Just saw a mention on Talking Points Memo that all four Dems in the group have gone on record as saying Gonzales is wrong. Now, we’re awaiting the four Republicans’ memories of same…
(Scroll down to the 11:39 pm item, “Who’s Going to Ask Republicans?”)
CD @ 102
Kafka-fuckin’-esque.
Off to the Land of Nod…
But first a little prayer of thanksgiving to Rhode Island — Sheldon Whitehouse!!!!
g’nite sunny.
BigMitch @ 99
The SJC looks like they are doing quite well. It was very impressive. They will do something, I am convinced. If not, we’ll have to get a heck of a lot more organized. I so look forward to YearlyKos…
TexB @ 55
I’ve always wanted to have tea served in a samovar. Beautiful!~
Suzanne @ 73
Now I gotta draw that. ;)
As I understand it Congress requires a quorum in order to avoid going into recess. That’s 50 1 of the members. Or, once a quorum is established can the number go below that for a period.
It seems to me that the Republicans could almost force a recess if the simply didn’t show up.
But the danger is that once one Republican emerged the Democrats could have a quorum and undertake business. [Impeachment requires only two-thirds of those in attendance …so it would be very dangerous for Republicans to boycott if all Democrats were “on board”]
Am I wrong? How can Reid keep Congress in Session through the August recess? Can just a handful of Senators do this?
Also…do the rules on filibuster actually require 60 votes? Or does it require 40 votes to prevent a bill from coming to a vote? Or is it a percentage of attending members.
If there is a simple quorum, with Republicans generally not attending, it would give the Democrats a great advantage. They only need simply majorities of those in attendance to pass bills, and 2/3rds of those in attendance to overturn a veto. This is true in either a Special or Normal Session.
I wonder if Reid intends a “secret” call back?
Margot @ 108
let me know when you are done please
Margot @ 107
I have a beautiful samovar like this, although in need of restoration. It was given to me as payment for a legal fee when I represented a man who was charged with possession of marijuana. He had something like 16 pounds as I recall. Anyway, in Alaska, possession of marijuana for person use is legally protected by our Constitutional protection of the right to privacy. So, as you can guess, my defense was that it was for personal use, and –I wouldn’t be telling the story unless — we won! There was an editorial mocking the case in the WSJ.
The Yiddish word for samovar is Chinick. The expression, “Hock mir nicht a chinick,” means literally, “Don’t bang on my samovar” or more figuratively, “quit giving me a head-ache!”
My dad told me that many immigrants came to this country with everything they owned packed into such a samovar. He said lots of things, and I never knew if he was crazy, kidding, or telling the truth. I suspect #3, in this case.
Whitehouse up now on C-Span
cspan is rerunning the sjc hearing and whitehouse is up.
cinnamonape, I don’t understand the senate rules on so many levels. I try, but they don’t seem to make any sense. Time for an update? I understand that they don’t want to change long standing rules/laws, or god forbid, the Constitution willy-nilly, but this is looking silly.
Thanks, Newton and Suzanne. Watching the Span now (as Randi Rhodes would say.)
Big Mitch, seems like you could go pretty far with a Samovar if it was filled with precious jewels.
Is it on CSPAN 3 again?
Just popping in to say hey, kids.
Oh yeah, Gonzales is really a creep.
regular cspan… 1?
Loo Hoo. @ 117
C-Span 1. Sessions up, Whitehouse 1st round just finished
hey, stevea
Suzanne @ 121
Hey back, Suzanne!
Suzanne @ 119
Yes, thanks Suz.
Loo Hoo. @ 116
My uncle said the same thing about his nose.
Actually, as you probably know, the diamond industry has attracted a large number of Orthodox Jews. They do million dollar deals on a handshake, and if you go back on your word, your daughter will never marry. Israel wanted to become the diamond cutting capital of the world, and so they made a special law that exempted the diamond industry from certain record keeping requirements. There was a really good murder mystery movie set in this community, but I can’t recall the name.
Shorter: maybe my dad was telling the truth.
Senator Sessions is quoting Michelle Malkin..
mitch, 11 harrow house? movie about diamond theft iirc
Suzanne @ 126
no, that’s not the one.
I didn’t catch this morning that Jeff Sessions is apparently talking about criminals that have been given preferential treatment in the DOJ. There must be something to this for a member of the SJC to bring this up. Completely missed it this AM.
Eureka Springs @ 125
Malkin gets wood… can’t believe I just said that.
Stranger Among Us.
Academy Award-nominated star Melanie Griffith (Best Actress nominee — WORKING GIRL, 1988) turns in a winning performance as detective Emily Eden, a tough New York City cop forced to go undercover to solve a puzzling murder. Her search for the truth takes her into a secret world of unwritten law and unspoken power, a world where the only way out is deeper in! Delivering edge-of-your-seat excitement that won’t let you go, this action-packed thriller is sure to entertain you with its sizzling star power, electrifying story, and nonstop surprises!
did i already miss the schumer questions about the ashcroft visit?
TRex @ 18
Aren’t these the same guys who asked about Al Gore at the YouTube debate?
newtonusr @ 129
Girl with a strap-on…who does she use it on?
Ewww!
Suzanne @ 131
IIRC, that is the very last thing before the final recess. Not the first time he hit on it though.
Suz, the good stuff is still coming up. Crack cocaine is hardly the issue here.
Suzanne,
It’s going to have to wait til tomorrow. I just did an art nouveau thing that made my fingers hurt. I really want to draw something for Jane, too.
Mitch, I never heard that. I had a grandma Olya, and I’ve since wondered when her family came to this country. I just never asked when I was little.
cool, schumer up
no rush at all margot.. at your convenience.. sorry if you thought i was trying to rush you
I’m loving watching this the second time, can watch ABU.
am loving the yes or no nailing him about the gonzo lied
look at Gonzos face… he is lying before he speaks and knows it.
OT from the last thread regarding an O’Reilly sponsor boycott.
… the powerful threat is to make sponsors quaver about their INTERNATIONAL Franchises taking some heat for a host’s racism.
Applebees International has scores of Franchises in Canada, the Middle East (Egypt, Kuwait, Lebanon, Jordan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Dubai), Europe (Greece) and South/Central America (Brazil, Chile, Equador, Guatamala, Honduras, Mexico), as well as Greece and Italy . Applebees would really fear a campaign in which protestors held up quotes of O’Reilly about Mexican undocumented workers outside of their Mexican franchisees…with the comment underneath “APPLEBEES IS A SPONSOR OF BILL O’REILLY!”
http://www.applebees.com/InternationalInfo/
In addition, I-HOP is considering buying Applebee’s and the offer might plummet if there were political tensions like this involved!
Schumer is wonderful!
Suzanne, not at all—
I wanted to jump right in and start it!—but I realized my eyes are scratchy and hands getting stiff.
Actually I was also thinking about drawing a SOLD sign for you to visualize for your house. Or a money tree…
telling mistruths.
notice how he tosses his palms up when he lies
Translations:
“In all due respect,” = “Listen, dickwad…”
“It looks like you decieved us..” = “I caught you in a fucking lie…”
“It still doesn’t add up ..” = “Listen punk, do you think we are stupid?”
I still think that AB^2 will say that there was no disagreement about the plan that the president revealed, which plan took included the changes forced by Comey’s threat of resignation. The disagreement was about those changes — other intelligence activities — and that was not revealed by the President.
I’ve listened to every statement this punk has made, and that has to be it.
Durbin hot too. (Too late that later he calls Osama Obama) But Durbin is getting into the issue of torture.
Loo Hoo. @ 149
That was unfortunate. His fellow Senator from Illinois..
Durbin is sincere about our standing in the world with regard to torture.
Translations, con’t.
“I wish I could talk more ..” = “Thank God, I can hide behind the excuse of National Security.”
gonzo so doesn’t wanna answer the question…
Durbin is concerned about America’s standing in the world, for sure. But he is equally concerned about what happens to American citizens if the shoe is on the other foot.
newtonusr @ 150
So sad. It is sad, but understandable. We need to remember this if a republican makes this mistake-if it is an honest mistake and not an intentional slander.
margot, anything would be a pleasure to see. i loved that suzanne sign.
Loo Hoo. @ 155
And Teddy bungled it even worse last year. What a train wreck…
Republican dominated Supreme Court came down saying you were wrong, we were right, and we have wasted five years. Leahy
Here it comes, Gonzo. You better reach for the KY jelly, cause it’s going in sideways.
Abu keeps pretending like he’s going to take notes.
“misleading at best” = unmistakably a stinking lie.
FEINGOLD!!!
This is awesome what Feingold does to AGAG! It’s funny, C-span 3, aired it live, then C-2, and now C-1!!! I think it gets better with each viewing!!!
Loo Hoo. @ 159
During the live blogging CHS mentioned this old lawyer’s trick to keep from reacting to what is being said.
CTuttle @ 162
Not careful, and it’ll be on CNN!
Kennedy trying to provoke a claim of executive privilege.
Loo Hoo. @ 164
We could only dream about any of the MSM to carry it live or in its’ entirety!
It worked.
Are we paying for the minions behind AGAG?
Kennedy struggling to hide his disdain. Not completely sucessful.
OT, Scuse me, CT? There were some missing some exclamation points above.
Later on, Scottish Haggis nails AGAG down on the torture issue, whereby, AGAG admits the CIA is allowed to waterboard, etc…!
Love Ted Kennedy.
Kennedy on Peace Corps.
Peace Corps started by Sergeant Shriver, of the Kennedy Clan, and V.P. candidate with George McGovern.
Loo Hoo. @ 170
Out of deference to you, Loo Hoo! :P!!!
I didn’t catch this morning Kennedy’s point. He is saying that there has not been time to work on racial checks. Big time.
If this were a boxing match, and I were a referee, I would stop the fight.
I inherited a samovar – made into a lamp. Until you wrote that link, above, I didn’t know what to call my lamp.
It takes about 6 months for any big economic change to be felt in the regular economy the rise in the minimum wage should begin to help the economy as Bush is on the way out.
We need to be ready to take credit for a small but real increase in the economy.
Because Bush will try and steal the credit and claim his policies are finaly working.
Jacqrat @ 177
I re-read my note. Maybe I should have transliterated it Chynik.
Snark award to Leahy: “Might not be a bad idea.”
Jacqrat @ 177
Cool!
things come undone @ 178
Excellent point.
Can you believe how blatant his lies and omissions are??? His smirk seems to be plastered on his face!
Put this in context Abu.
Fuck you.
CTuttle @ 182
And the more he raises his voice, the more he’s lieing.
Leahy on the firefighter bs.
AGAG’s response to this strenous activity is totally BS!!!
This is the money moment!!!
Has Leahy convinced Spector to be on the good team? I truly admire Leahy for his patience on this.
Spector doesn’t know which girlfriend he wants to marry and is so up in the air!!!
BigMitch @ 148
Specter is trying to close this loophole. AG^2 says he can’t answer except in a classified context.
Buttercheeks indeed.
Actionable. Maybe Arlen has crossed over (I will regret that remark soon enough, but a guy can dream…).
newtonusr @ 192
Believe it or not, it gets better!!! ;-)
Spector truly pissed off about the amount of time Abu spent on death penalty cases. This shows a pattern in the administration for a lack of concern for human life.
I won’t often say good on Spector, but this deserves one.
CTuttle @ 192
Talk is cheap. Specter has a big history of looking good, and then doing nothing.
Whitehouse rt now.
BigMitch @ 195
You’ll get no argument outta me!
Love Whitehouse!
The next step is getting the deficit undercontrol which will raise the value of the dollar. Bill Clinton’s economic playbook works but raising taxes is unpopular. Bill payed last time by unintentionaly giving Newt control of Congress with this issue, we can’t let that happen again.
Bush caused this debt if we can force him to pay for part of his war during his term we can force him to accept responsibilty and blame for his actions.
If we can’t do that then the next Democratic President has to sell a tax increase as a pay for Bush’s war tax to the Public.
When the Republicans start talking about wasteful government spending as we know they will we have to start closing unneeded military bases in our Republican critics districts to save money.
Cutting missile defense and next generation weapons is a start. We can spend the money on armoured humvees and better bullet proof vests.
Let the Republicans argue that we need a faster jet fighter more than we need armoured humvees.
Frame the debate question to our liking bullet proof vests and armoured humvees are cheaper than next generation weapons and missile defense. We can use the savings to pay down the debt and fund our own programs.
SheldonSnark
BigMitch @ 182
Thank You!
The letter was reduced to writing. Whitehouse.
BigMitch @ 202
The OVP. This may be Whitehouse’s best.
BANG!
things come undone @ 200
More generally, and as your next post argues, we have to be much more organized in getting our message out. I hope that progress is made at YKos’07 on this front.
Tonight I got an email from the Dems calling for a boycott of O’reilley advertisers. http://www.democrats.com/boyco…..dvertisers I have argued here that our democratic lack of organization makes this a high-stakes gamble, because if we receive return fire, it will be well-organized and much more effective. Look at what happened to Jet Blue. They were demonized by O’Reilley, they caved, and now, (although they are sub rosa sponsors of YKOS’07) they are villified by the left. Go figure.
newton, was that bang the sound of a gavel coming down?
Whoo Hooo!
Whitehouse is my hero!
things come undone @ 199
When Warren Buffett and Bill Gates flatly stated they don’t pay enough in taxes, there is no reason not to raise taxes on the wealthiest 1%!!!
Whitehouse is kicking his ass, but this story is way to complicated for anyone who is not a policy wonk to follow.
The letter/memo Whitehouse just read, did he say when it was dated?
Eureka Springs @ 210
May ‘06, don’t remember the day, tho!
you, sir, are the problem – woohoo
CTuttle @ 211
July 5, 2007
http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_6308408
BigMitch @ 213
Thank you Mitch!
big mitch, was that the denver post lte that was read?
CTuttle @ 210
So Cheney/Addington could have has inside info on Fitz investigation (or anything else).
Suzanne @ 215
Yeppers.
mitch, i see your answer and my question crossed in the tubes
Eureka Springs @ 216
That was the impression I was left with! Spooky, ain’t it!!!
Thanks Mitch, I was referring to the letter/document Whitehouse read before that one.
Code Pink!!! Woo Hoo!!!
Ashcroft letter was revised by May 4, 2006 memorandum signed by Gonzo.
Eureka Springs @ 220
see 222 above.
Unbelievable!
Republicans will scream about weakening national defense as well as raising taxes. Their intent is to force us to drop our programs like National Healthcare but somehow for some reason they think we will keep funding their programs.
Thanks to the Grover Norquist raise the deficit to shrink government strategy we can now turn the tables on the Republicans.
Just where do the Republicans intend to get the money to pay for the army after Bush spent the entire Clinton Surplus and then borrowed money to keep the war going.
We can save money if we adopt the French Healthcare system and get everyone healthcare.
After a few years of paying down the debt we can spend on the military when the dollar is stronger which will make buying new next generation weapons cheaper.
How exactly do the Republicans intend to pay for their proposed military spending? By cutting Social Security?
None of the Republican Presidential Candidates have a serious plan on how to pay for their spending. If we close the opening their silence leaves and fill it with the suggestion they intend to cut social security to keep the war going, pay off the deficit, pay for missile defense, next generation weapons, etc we terrify the Boomers.
Good night my friends.
here we go – who sent you?
OOOoooh this is delicious.
Authorized by the President? On behalf of the President.
g’nite mitch – in the words of gilly – fuck the fucking yankees
nite big mitch
Who in the White House will tell him if he can answer?
gilly?
decided to delay that for a few mitch? i was wondering why you were going to bed when it was getting really really good.
This will be the third time I ‘ve seen it. But yet I cannot pull myself away.
gilly, steve gilliard – the news blog, passed away june 2 of this year.
you see gonzo physically lean back when fitz’s name come up
Big Mitch @ 205 I just signed the pettion. Plus in the Pettion comments I suggested that consumers of cable TV should have the choice to pick what channels they have to pay for. If 70% of the voters are antiwar how many of us would drop Fox News if we could from our basic cable package. No more forceing Democratic TV viewers to fund the Republican channel!
“You’re disembling to this committee.”
As I said above:
Now can I go to sleep? I’ve heard enough of Arlen Specter.
Good night again, and thanks for keeping me company.
BigMitch @ 239
Nite, Mitch!!!
nite, mitch ftfy :)
Well, I’m gonna continue watching! Time for me to bid another fond adieu to the Lake! Aloha Oe!!!
nite ct
Me too.. good nite all
ok, time for me to head off to bed. catch ya’ll same bat time, same bat channel
nite suzanne
CTuttle @ 208
Warren Buffet, Steve Jobs, George Soros all made their own money and support Democrats (I’m not sure if Bill Gates is a Democrat) but isn’t it interesting that all these self made million/billionares Entrepreneurs are Democrats?
This fact must blow Newts freemarket Milton Friedman worshiping mind.
Only old living off a trust fund money seems to support Bush. For good reason a static stratified system not only keeps the poor despite their talents from moving up. It keeps the rich no matter how incompetent, corrupt, criminal from losing their money and social status.
Although President Bush is certainly pushing the limits of this systems abilty to protect him.
hey newt…. (driveby on my way to bed) you still making those clips of the hearings? if so, can you shoot a copy off to me please? thanks
Suzanne @ 248
Sure. Extracting audio now, will ship off when done. nite suzanne
If Bill O’Reily wants to boycott Koz why don’t we go all free market on Bill and start pushing for cable TV viewers to have the freedom to choose what channels they pay for instead of being forced to pay for channels they hate!
70% of us hate the war what happens to Fox News stock if only 20% of their subscribers drop the channel? Rupert is probably financing his attempted purchase of the WallStreet Journal by ussing his stock as collateral.
If his stock price drops then he needs to kick in more stock to the banks financing this deal. If he kicks in enough then he loses control of Fox News.
If the Price drops enough then he faces an Enron style meltdown as the banks ask for more stock,assests, money than he has.
I’m sure Hispanic activists would love the chance to drop CNN’s Lou Dobbs and his everday lets blame immigrants for everything wrong with America rant from our TV sets. If we make common cause with allies we might pull this off!
Getting that Lying about immigrants spreading Leprosy jerk off the air would empower Hispanics and show them they can impact society this would increase Hispanic voting in the next election.
Which would scare the crap out of a GOP ussing this issue to rally their racist 30%ers. The GOP strategy only works if their base is energized which due to losing the Iraq war even organized hating on the brown people isn’t going to energize them much.
Plus the minorities need to be uninterested in voting in the election for the GOP plan to work. Given higher minority enlistment rates per percentage of the population ending the war is going to energize turnout.
Sometimes I wonder if Karl Rove is just updating Lee Atwaters plans for today without ever understanding them?
mydd has a great post about conserative commenters who think Hilary was good and talking responsibly during the debate.
Is the GOP thinking about trying to support Hilary because their own candidates have no chance of winning the presidency?
I know Hilary thinks this election is a repeat of the George McGovern Presidential Candidacy but its not. This election is the post watergate presidential race only without the lefty postion being hurt by the McGovern loss.
The Center Democrats lost this one to Bush twice. Still if a movment to get Republicans to cross over and vote for Hilary does take place this is disturbing. But how could this work the GOP hates Hilary more than anyone?
Bush presented Congress and the Constitution with a connundrum
when he declined to let his US Attornies, “emanations of his personal
will,” prosecute contempt cases against members of his executive
branch. One possible way out is the use of “inherent contempt”
citations, which Congress itself can try but which hasn’t been
used since 1934, in part, because it combines the power to accuse
with the power to convict, a breach of the doctrine of separaton
of powers.
Bruce Fein, and conservative constitutional scholar and one of the
heros of the Moyers Report, suggests another way, resurrection of
the Independent Counsel Law, which Congress dropped after the
Ken Starr fiasco. It would take support from Republicans to
overturn the inevitable Bush veto, and Fein recommends that
support in the very republican Washington Times. Enjoy
http://washingtontimes.com/app…../107240006
Good morning, pups. Ms. Dowd is alone in the NYT today. She says that one of the unintended consequences of W’s reign of terror is that it may have turned her sister into a Democrat.
http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/
Coffee and tea are ready, and the biscuits are out of the oven. Have a lovely day.
Here is a Dkos diary of breaking news (1:30 am PDT) about contempt indictment being issued for Miers and Bolten. It’s not clear whether they are from the Senate or the House.
These are supposedly non-inherent contempt citations, which Bush will decline to enforce. That will make Fein’s op-ed all the more significant and might induce some Republicans to get on board regarding the reinstatement of the independent-counsel law.
Good morning, pups! Marion not up yet?
My late mom summarized the entire lying repugs conundrum thusly:
“An honest person has no defense against a liar.”
We sputter and squirm, and the liars just continue to lie. And because they are so practiced and convincing, they get away with it.
Think of the times you have dealt personally, on however small a scale, with a liar. What did you do? Did it work? How long did it take, and what was the satisfaction in the end? This is what we are dealing with on a national scale, and the road is difficult.
For some reason, the bright light of truth is difficult to see for many people.
“Well, we all shine on …”
Marion in Savannah @ 254
Hi Marion. What’s this world coming to? ;-)
Guess I better fire up the old bean grinder and brew a couple of cups of Verona.
Marion in Savannah @ 254
Marion….I want that recipe… pretty please
In honor of Jane’s birthday, I think that it’d be okay to have cake and ice cream for breakfast.
Good morning Everybody,
wigwam, I read the KOS and Yahoo article and, maybe due to not enough coffee, can’t figure out what the House is doing.
I think the GOP knows that it is trouble and is reaching into their Lee Atwater Southern Strategy Playbook for help ussing racial hatered to whip up their base.
No Duh! right but the problem with that plan is the field of battle has changed with the Net. Part of the Southern Strategy is to speak the hate privately or in public to use code words that racist understand but normal people don’t.
The Net and portable video lets us find these words record them and tell EVERYBODY. The GOP hasn’t learned the lesson of Macaca.
The GOP is too use to being in power they feel safe ussing these tactics openly. Plus their control of the MainStreamMedia ensures that their talking points are on every channel.
Sure losing the Iraq war is hurting the GOP but the GOP is also pissing off minority voters. The GOP is moblizing minority voters with their open appeals to racism. They are not even bothering to try and keep it secret anymore.
Their Southern Strategy only works if they mobilze their base secretly without letting minorities know what they say in private.
things come undone @ 261
So, there’s secret racist words and secret Fundamentalist words.
wigwam @ 257
Sometimes Modo is worth the read
Boston 1775 I forgot the Secret Funde Code!
Good morning!
Happy birthday dear Jane!!!
Buenos días!
another glorious morning here!
and thanks Marion, the biscuits are yummy
Good morning all!
JPL @ 259
Happy Birthday Jane! Your doing Good Work fighting the Good Fight! The Left would not be organised at all without bloggers like you getting everyone together and talking.
It certainly makes me feel good to come here and find like minded people who feel like I do. Its great to listen, learn, share ideas and rift off others. Its amazing how one post, one small comment and a lot of tea can trigger a whole bunch of thoughts which I just have to write down.
The instant audience feedback you get when people get what your trying to say, approve and sometimes improve on the thought is a rush!
This story in the NYT about group funerals at military bases is worth some thought.
Of course, the dead soldier has no more time to even take a breath.
Things come undone, I listen to talk radio every now and then. They are doing the work of driving all of brown and white people they insult to the voting booths of 2008.
The Boston racists of the air are realizing that their base is shrinking and try in vain to engage those wacky liberals. Fortunately, each time I’ve heard them slap around liberals, trying to goad them to call, no one bothers.
It does my heart good to hear them going on and on about how stupid liberals and progressives are, and the only ones who call parrot them right back. The Racist Bubble.
Boston1775 @ 260
It’s I who lacked the coffee. I used the word “issued” where I should have said “prepared.” Apparently the contempt citations have been drafted and the House judiciary committee will vote on them today. Presumably they must then be voted on by the entire House before being sent to the DoJ.
Good morning troops! 64 degrees, mostly cloudy with rain expected in Trendy Blue Ridge GA.
From I miss Fafblog, spot!
wigwam @ 271
Oh, thanks. I wonder if this will be on CSPAN-3? I also have to go back to figure out how this relates to Bruce Fein’s recommendations.
hey…what happened to that corporatist version of saturday night live…you know, rush was president and ann cloture was vice?
Boston1775 @ 273
What I got from Fein is that Congress has three options regarding contempt citations:
(1) Prosecution by DoJ, which W has rejected.
(2) Inherent-contempt, in which say the House is judge, jury, and prosecutor, and which hasn’t been used since 1934.
(3) Prosecution via an Independent Prosecutor, which would require reinstating the independent-prosecutor statute over a presidential veto. (And Fein recommends this one.)
At this point, the House seems to be preparing for option #1, knowing that will lead to option #2 or #3 unless some compromise is reached.
Thank you so much for that summary!
from mccatchy this morning: “Experts warn that the U.S. strategy against al Qaida in Pakistan could backfire“
things come undone @ 261
The 2007/08 GOP Southern Strategy ~ LINK
Message: “We hate ‘them’ as much as you do!”
things come undone @ 252
I would imagine there are more wavering Repubes than ever after the insanity of the last few years. Sure as apple pie, Hillary’s going for ‘em! Her recent vote to expand the powers of facism in America is a great example of patented Clinton triangulation. There are the 4-5 usual Dems voting with the Repubes, but the only other Dems mixed in with every other Repube, are Clinton and Schumer.
The wingnut blogs wanted this to pass, and now there’s a bunch of comments there to the effect of, “Wow. Hillary did the right thing for once. Maybe she’s not a moonbat after all?” Similar thing with her speechifying about the plight of immigrant workers, and then votes to build a giant fence along the Mexican border.
If the tringulators could point out some cases where their pandering has been reciprocated by Repubes and they helped us out on some some things, I’d maybe entertain this strategy. But they never have! This is one of the reasons the Dem Party has been tanking for years (Dr. Dean came around just in time!). Look at the recent drop in polls for Congress. It’s because they’re not standing and fighting for what’s right. Serial Panderists.
Hillary has no soul.
Here is an explanation of the relevance of Feingold’s censure motions to the process of impeachment. This quote is from John Nichols, author of The Genius of Impeachment: The Founders’ Cure for Royalism and one of the heroes of Bill Moyers’ report on impeachment:
I had incorrectly thought of Feingold’s censure motions as diversions, distractions, and half-measures. I stand corrected.
Happy Birthday, dear Jane!
A virtual chocolate ganache cake for you and homebaked oatmeal doggie treats for the poodle pups.
Salut!
As usual, no one could say it better than Molly Ivins.
selise @ 277
excuse, me, COULD backfire?
that depends on what “backfire” means;
if it means it will increase the terrorist fold, well, that’s not could, that’s would
so in that sense the strategy WILL “backfire”
however, this president is deliberately destabilizing the middle east and deliberately creating the hate toward America we see swell like a tsunami
in the sense that his “strategy” is doing as much harm to our country as possible, no, the “strategy” isn’t going to “backfire, it’s going to succeed
bonkers @ 279
I’m not much of a Hillary fan, but the Right is already assuming she will be the nominee.
I work construction (rained out this AM) and the Republicans are already spreading the “Dems get in and the Economy will crash” story. I’ve heard it several times from some Builders who are local Repuke operatives.
And one emailed me a t-shirt image, with Mrs. Clinton: “Life is a Bitch, don’t vote for one”.
We see the shape of the campaign here..
And if Obama is part of the mix, ‘Osama=Obama’ will be mild compared to the racist trash that will be thrown.
And my super just called, gotta go..
from http://harpers.org/archive/2007/07/hbc-90000629
MR. Bill @ 285
Very predictable. So what to do about it? I say attack that shit head-on. Don’t let the bullys get you down! No fear.
‘Morning, FirePups. Nice to wake up to news that the House Judiciary will vote on contempt of Congress for Miers and Bolten. We knew it was coming eventually, but that day has finally arrived.
Wish they could simply frog-march the bastards to the nearest pokey, but it’s probably just as well they take the long route with the DOJ likely to refuse to prosecute the contempt charge. After yesterday’s totally bullsh*t performance by Gonzales, particularly his lying to Specter’s face in such a baldface manner, it will be easier to sell the idea to fence-sitting Repugs that the DOJ is also inherently in contempt. That would take us to step 2 and 3 in Fein’s list of options…and that much closer to impeachment of the first officer of this administration.
(And a note for TRex: dude, you linked to that unhinged freakazoid Malkin? Ugh. I can’t do that, absolutely cannot go there even if she’s bust-a-rib funny. Cannot give her my eyeballs for one second so that she can profit from my attention.)
My brother has been saying this for a while now:
Document uncovers details of a planned coup in the USA in 1933 by right-wing American businessmen – LINK to BBC
Listening with half an ear to Politbore-Joe this morning and Mika newsreader started to something about AG Gonzales and then said “oops, wrong story” and went into a rehash of the Mon night Youtube stuff.
Censorship being dictated from above at MSNBC?
Morning, all–
Prairie Sunshine (@289), I’m only half-listening, too, and missed that, but Mika’s way better than most of the readers. She flat-out refused to read the Paris Hilton out-of-jail stories, even tried to set fire to it!
Scarecrow’s got the good stuff upstairs.
Why do Republicans hate children?
Now The Republicans Are Obstructing Children’s Health Care
Lou Costello @ 288
prescott bush is the thread we should be exploring and nobody is promoting the links that need to be exploited
prescott bush was a hitler funding supporter, he was a fascist and he hated the idea of a government for the people instead of for corporations
he is the template this president follows, they want a robber baron society where there are the wealthy and then everyone else
prescott bush
that’s the thread
You put a link to the website of Cheerleadin’ Mimi. As TBogg would say, that way lies only madness.