Live set from Van Morrison, performing his single "Days Like This."
The nation's founders lived through the upheaval of a revolutionary war and watched the European continent erupt in petty battles over territories that had been long-coveted by a few monarchs across the continent for centuries. The Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the nation's laws were designed as a stop-gap against tyranny. From Scott Horton in Harper's:
As Benjamin Franklin left the Constitutional Convention, on September 18, 1787, a certain Mrs. Powel shouted out to him: “Well, doctor, what have we got?,” and Franklin responded: “A Republic, if you can keep it.” Like many of the Founding Fathers, he was intensely concerned that the democratic institutions they were crafting would deteriorate over time. In particular, they were concerned—and talked ceaselessly during the convention about the risk that, under pressures and exigencies of war, a tyrant would collapse their system into something closer to the monarchy that they had just defeated. Over the intervening 220 years, the republic has maintained itself, though not without close calls. And today, while we face what may be the gravest challenge in the nation’s history, our media will serve up the next chapter in the life of Paris Hilton.
Near the close of the Second World War, Learned Hand–a man who embodies everything that constitutes a good citizen, a great judge and a patriot–made a powerful speech at the Great Lawn in Central Park. “Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women,” he said, “when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can even do much to help it. While it lies there it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it.” This observation may be obvious, but it is an obvious truth which at this point goes unstated. Our Constitution and values will only survive the present onslaught if we remain conscious of them and recall the great cost at which they were secured. The current events are far more momentous than some partisan political struggle. For the next generation of Americans, they will define what this country has become.
The Attorney General of the United States, who is currently serving the very important post of firewall for the Bush White House, will be testifying this morning before the Senate Judiciary Committee beginning at 9:30 am ET. (I'll try and liveblog as much of it as I possibly and accurately can.) The members of the committee will be doing exactly what the Founding Fathers wanted them to do: asking questions about an overreach of power and a disrespect for the rule of law. I'm expecting a spate of "Not that I recall." and "I don't think that I knew anything about that.", in the continuing saga of dodge and phony shows with members of the Bush Administration. (H/T to reader dude.)
The Founders had already dealt with one Mad King George, and they built in checks and balances which must be used to rein in this sort of excess and disregard for the law. They knew there would be days like this.
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zunoed!
Hi
The founders may have known there’d be days like this. The question is whether they knew there’d be little courage to use it, and a White House that doesn’t give a shit, because they’re on a MISSION FROM GOD?
Good morning Christy!
More filmed testimony –
Opening in select theaters this Friday (7/27):
No End in Sight
*disbanded army
*unsecured weapons dumps
*ill-equipped vehicles (duh guerrilla warfare)
As with Sicko, may this filmed testimony continue to feed the groundswell
of outrage necessary to oust this MALADMINISTRATION.
*The Revolution will be VLOGGED*
~TS
“dodge and pony shows “
Love that, Christy! Mornin’ all. It’s a great day for some oversight.
I doubt the founders foresaw a populace that would be enthralled with the next chapter of Paris Hilton’s life.
Morning, all. Was just in the mood for some Van Morrison — little soothing music for the soul this morning.
Attaturk @ 3
BINGO! All the powers and checks and balances in the world ain’t worth a hill o’ beans if no one uses them as was intended.
Good Morning Christy!
and pups!
Great post to start off this particular morning.
and who doesn’t like a little Van Morrison to start the day?
Nice job as always Christy. And college football is only a month away!
Van the Man - thanks Christy.
JF @ 6
You beat me to it…that’s a great description.
Twisted at 11 — You know, all reports are that WVU is going to have a kick ass team this year. How is Michigan looking? We may get that Rose Bowl match-up yet. *G*
You can also watch the hearings at www.c-span.org
“Liveblog” away CHS.
christy, another great read from you
have I said thank you enough?
anyway, I would like to repeat this particular excerp
someone out to send that paragraph to all our on the fence senators..with that particular sentence highlighted for good measure.
thanx again
hey…forgot to say;
g’mornin all
I don’t know why, but I’m looking forward to this Gonzo testimony. There’s so many questions that he can say “I don’t know” to and it doesn’t matter anymore, because at a certain point the questions themselves tell the story.
Are the Republicans going to show up for this one? I guess we have to wait to find out.
Perris at 17 — Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes from James Madison:
Pretty much sums up the current rot in a nutshell, doesn’t it?
Rayne, you are a true inspiration for me and surely for a lot of pups here.
How can one person do so much? Thank you for your passion, your dedication, and the time you take to help teach us about things.
btw, gang, the Harper’s article from whence the quote came is excellent, start to finish — well worth a full read this morning. And the graphic is hilarious, too.
I would like someone to actually pose the brutally obvious and honest question to abu torture;
“you are either a liar or the most inept official I have ever had the displeasure to converse
I am supposing you are not a liar, though that might be a stretch
so, if you are not a liar,how is it possible a man as obviously inept as yourself can continue occupy an office in the administration as high as yours?”
and of course an excellent follow up;
“you are the attorney general of the United States of America, you work at the pleasure the people of this country, they are your boss, you work at the pleasure of the constitutton, it is your boss, you work at the pleasure of congress, you do not work at the pleasure of the president
do you agree or dissagree with that assesment?”
this is a no win question for abu…if he disagress, impeachment can be made from his responce even by republicans
if he agrees, the follow up;
“when we issue contempt for members of the adminsitration, the president has indicated he will “instruct” you not to prefer charges
will you obey the president or congress?”
BING
Is anyone going to ask this one: “If Congress issues a contempt charge for Harriet Miers, is the Justice Department going to enforce it?”
There’s so many questions to ask! Torture has been given the green light by the DOJ, despite a ruling by the Supreme Court that says we have to stick to international law. Crazy prosecutors managed to get the KPMG lawsuit dismissed. How about the Abramoff prosecutions? What happened to those?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 21
thanks Christy, now I’m cleaning the Cheerios off my keyboard.
Looking forward to this hearing. Christy, thanks in advance for live blogging. Hope the guy with the tote board will be in the chambers tallying up all the “I don’t recall” responses.
Elliott at 24 — Well, I did say that the graphic was funny. *g*
GeorgeSimian @ 23
I agree, this needs to be asked, I would set it up with something like I wrote above;“you are the attorney general of the United States of America, you work at the pleasure the people of this country, they are your boss, you work at the pleasure of the constitutton, it is your boss, you work at the pleasure of congress, you do not work at the pleasure of the president
do you agree or dissagree with that assesment?”
followed by your question…very nice set up there
There is another convention that is coming up next week where I would venture that we will be talking ceaselessy about the risks we are currently exposed to and how we will defeat the monarchy that we are currently living under.
Any word of an FDL caucus or gathering?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 21
Scott Horton also has a very good series about Karl Rove’s politicizing of the Alabama judicial system and the persecution of former Alabama Governor Don Siegelman.
RevDeb @ 28
I might grab a flight and attend if I can get off work, we are having a very slow season…tonight I will look into tickets
where are you guys staying?
perris @ 30
perris,
some of us booked the hotels early and are at the Hyatt at McCormick Place. The block of rooms there sold out long ago, Others are scattered around the city.
RevDeb @ 31
I might be able to room with a person that plays on the TEEvee p*ker tours and hosts one of the shows
will see
hmmm…coment got ate
anyway, I have a friend that works in vegas a t various times, I’ll try to stay with him.
must contact
Deb at 28 — A lot of stuff is still being finalized. Soon as we know something definite, we’ll certainly let everyone else know.
I’m expecting a spate of “Not that I recall.” and “I don’t think that I knew anything about that.”, in the continuing saga of dodge and pony shows with members of the Bush Adminstration.
Christy, I thought Abu had been given the questions in advance in hopes that he could answer them.
perris @ 32
IT IS IN CHICAGO!!!
perris at 32 — This year, YKos is in Chicago. Just fyi…
RevDeb @ 35
better, I have a friend that lives there…what part of chicago?
The exchange with Abu G needs to be along these lines:
“It’s become clear that your incompetence, selective memory and inability to tell the whole truth to Congress is considered by the President a reason to keep your job, not lose it. So the next time we deal with you, it may well be because the House decided to impeach you.”
He’s not just designated firewall: he’s the embodiment of the ’screw you’ presidency.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 33
Christy,
I’m flying in on Tues. (taking some breathing/play time) Let me know if I can help.
perris @ 37
On Washington Journal they are discussing the debate last night. A caller just brought up how the Israeli Palestinian conflict has not come up in any of the debates. People are noticing.
debate
RevDeb @ 40
thread ate my response:
McCormick Place, south side of the loop on the lake front. Near the Field Museum.
GeorgeSimian @ 18
He should have had plenty of time to inform himself. Waxman gave him a list of questions last week. There should be fewer IDKs.
HEY!
Libya Frees Foreign Medical Workers
I think the administration decided to just use Gonzo’s testimony today as another chance to blab the talking points. His opening statement will be their cheap, shameless plug. The rest of the testimony will be a joke (on us).
I’ll be watching to see if Mr. Gonzales says “I don’t recall” or “I can’t recall.”
Such word-parsing would usually be insignificant, but then this group is anything but usual.
I believe it’s their cleverly coached way of not answering a question.
JF @ 45
It was Leahy that provided the list of questions (Senate Judiciary instead of House Oversight). If any Rs show up (other than Snarlin’ Arlen), it may be the start of the cascade and crumbling of the ramparts. The Rs on the Senate committee have not seemed to be as far in the tank as those on the House committee. I believe that their not showing up was to avoid having to defend the indefensible. If they start showing up, then moving Gonzo done the road may happen sooner rather than later.
Am I the only one who just wants to see Leahy chew Gonzales out the way a parent would scold an insolent child?
Deb at 40 — I get in on Wednesday — need a little time to recuperate from the flight. (Wears my joints out, so I’m going to try and grab extra sleep before the Libby panel on Thursday morning.) Will be great to see everyone. My favorite part of last year’s conference was putting faces and names together. :)
dakine01 @ 49
You’re right, Leahy, not Waxman. 24 minutes and counting…
Other Pat @ 48
Listening to NPR on the way in, Steve Inskeep did a wonderfully snarky take on this aspect of Gonzo’s last appearance with the SJC. Inskeep also made a pointed reference at the contradictions between Comey’s and Abu’s testimonies.
Refreshing. Could it be that even the MSM has had enough of Gonzo?
Good morning everybody!
JF @ 6
dodge and phony shows—
kinmo @ 46
Well there will come a point, one would hope, when Leahy has just had enough. Expressions of indignation, threats of “further action” and murmurings of contempt of Congress have produced nothing but stonewalling from the WH bums. At what point today (?) will Leahy actually bring the hammer down on these bas**rds or is this going to be yet another three card monte game?
Christie - A little optimism on a ‘day like this’ for you. 33 years ago on a ‘day like this’, as a matter of fact on this exact day, the Supreme Court smacked the last Imperial President down in a unanimous opinion that ultimately led to his resignation. Yes I know that things are different now, that the optimism that a then-soon-to-be first year law student has jaded a bit, but I still have hope that eventually, small ‘j’ justice will prevail here.
In the meantime I shall take heart at a decision that was the best birthday present this now-older lawyer ever got.
dude at 54 — I am SO using that. HAHAHAHAHAHA
Link to the SJC Hearing:
http://www.cspan.org/
JF said:
He should have had plenty of time to inform himself. Waxman gave him a list of questions last week. There should be fewer IDKs.
My thoughts *exactly*! If he pulls that *$#@!)*&^%^$#@# this time, I hope there’s a pike somewhere on which you all know which body part can and should be placed.
It’s too bad Mr. Henry can’t chair every bloody hearing there is; his questions during the FEMA trailer hearing were so far past perfect you couldn’t get there from here.
Wrt music -
A commenter asked on a thread sometime w/in the last week about where to find protest music on the radio. Can’t remember who but hope s/he see this:
If you subscribe to XM sat radio, they have a folk station that plays some from time to time.
dude @ 54
Even better! Tee hee…
dratty at 56 — Now that is a lovely thought for the day. ;-)
Waccamaw @ 58
Phil Ochs site http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~trent/ochs/lyrics.html
I think asking Gonzo about his lies, not his memory would be more apt. Yesterday I read about the librarian who broke his/her silence on the subject of the DOJ’s gag order. It seems they prevented librarians from letting people know the library patrons’ files were being confiscated and reviewed by the FBI and others. It seems they were forced to turn over records or else be treated as terrorists themselves. Point is: Gonzales said to investigating committees that he was not aware of any problem with the investigations, the law, or the determinations of a judge that there would be no harm in librarians speaking their mind. He LIED.
Is KO a classy guy or what?
Keith Olbermann Apologizes for Wendy Vitter Countdown Segment…
Christy Hardin Smith @ 57
You are quite welcome. Nice to contribute something constructive once in a while.
re the “opinion” of the Justice Dept that GWB has the right to invoke exec privilege and block the testimony of others.
Do we know who authored the “opinion”? I’d like to know that, then have the author(s) brought before the SJC to answer as to the instructions given before writing the document. IOW, who was “the client”, who gave the order, and was the desired outcome clearly indicated to the author(s) before the drafting began?
dratty @ 56
Happy Birthday!
Gonzo is going to go over and over how he will fix things. I looked at his statement explaining how great he is and some where in the middle he explained how he will fix things.
Redd, you are Thomas Paine and Paul Revere, all rolled into one very smart lady. If ever there was a perfect example of equality of the sexes, you are it. Planning on taking a very long coffee break around 9:30. Many thanks.
mc @ 53
That NPR could only get comment on the GOP side from the despicable Ed Rogers shows that the firewall is pretty tightly drawn. I suppose the presumption is that there’s no real electoral fallout on Congressional Repugs that they allowed the DOJ to become a partisan shop under their watch.
ifthethunderdontgetya @ 29
Wow! Excellent article, and here is one excerpt.
The response to Simpson’s affidavit has been a series of brusque dismissive statements – all of them unsworn – from others who figured in the discussion and the federal prosecutor in the Siegelman case, who has now made a series of demonstrably false statements concerning the matter. She’s been smeared as “crazy” and as a “disgruntled contract bidder.” And something nastier: after her intention to speak became known, Simpson’s house was burned to the ground, and her car was driven off the road and totaled. Clearly, there are some very powerful people in Alabama who feel threatened. Her case starts to sound like a chapter out of John Grisham’s book The Pelican Brief. However, those who have dismissed Simpson are in for a very rude surprise. Her affidavit stands up on every point, and there is substantial evidence which will corroborate its details.
dude @ 63
I think that was the point of Leahy’s letter to him. He outlined all of the contradictions in Gonzo’s sworn testimony and other statements. In his written response, Gonzo totally ignored these questions. Of course.
TiredFed @ 69
Coffee break?? Are you kidding? We want her firing up the laptop for liveblogging then.
They gave him a list of questions last time too. It didn’t help jog his memory.
Come on. Some of this stuff could have been looked up in an appointment book. The idea that he doesn’t remember where he was, or what meeting he was in, while at the same time refusing to hand over the papers that would say where he was and what was talked about, is criminal. Does the DOJ keep minutes for their meetings? Do they write down his schedule so that he knows where to go and who he’s meeting with? Is he given any preparations for meetings or does he just walk blindly around the building, stumbling from meeting to meeting on the off chance that he might be in the right place at the right time and know what they’re going to talk about.
I’ve made this comment before, but I think it’s pretty accurate:
Abu Gonzales = a real-life Lionel Hutz.
GeorgeSimian @ 18
so who’s going to keep track? you know, Leahy used that as a bludgeon in his latest missive to Abu B Gon-zo.
I have a question for the lawyers:
The President says his staff (past and present) are free to testify if in private and not under oath. I know this is a bad idea, but what are the actual legal ramifications of unsworn/non-transcribed/non-public testimony to a) real prosecution and b) Congressional Investigations? The spin has been that such testimony has been used before and is somehow an accepted practice. Like, when was that?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 19
Pretty much sums up the current rot in a nutshell, doesn’t it?
the last line is the capper.
CHS, great eye for the best of Franklin & Madison
wrt this cabal. And h/t Horton @ Harper’s on the same.
Quote:
Call it the ipse dixit school of jurisprudence—”because I say so.”
just a quick comment before the hearing starts…
christy - many, many thanks for getting me to start watching the congressional hearings. now, i am so hooked.
Good morning folks. I was just on my porch, savoring the beautiful day with some coffee and the aroma of petunias, when this squirrel come running up on my porch and attacks an escarole plant.
He jumped up into the middle of it and just started shredding it with his his paws. He evidently thought there was something buried underneath. The last I saw he was running away with a large leaf in his mouth.
christy,
posts like yours are a constant reminder of just how well-thought-out and considered the constitution is, how serious men mindful of history, sensitive to their current situation and with the greatest of vision laid out this plan for society that did a fine job of holding up under circumstances they could not have foreseen — everything from civil war to the collapse of world orders to the sweep of technological change.
for us not to INSIST that we restore the rule of law, and fealty to the constitution — well, we would be poor relations of the courageous souls who built this nation.
the dems are in a bind, confronted by an administration that is lawless to its bones and supported by gop enablers who are accessories to the defiling of who we are as a people.
that doesn’t excuse the dems for not moving forward. you have to draw a line and say this is what we stand for, this is what we WON’T stand for. sadly, the dems have spent an awful lot of time rationalizing why the better course is … to do just enough not to accomplish anything.
and yet i have to recall that the dems are not the bad guys, the bushites and the gop are the bad guys. i’m not sure how it ends — we’d be wrong to assume that january 2009 will change much. but i have to believe it is still possible to reclaim the nation from these thieves.
I am looking forward to Abu G saying that having done nothing wrong, they are now taking steps to correct the situation.
Good morning from L.A. Haven’t commented here since last week- retirement didn’t last as long as I thought it would (boredom kicked in), & I’ve contracted for several months of work in film research. Perhaps a new career @ age 46? Why the hell not…
I’ll be watching the SJC hearing of course, although it may turn out to be the most tortured tv watching since, well, last time.
Nice plug for Phil Ochs’ music upthread. I often wish someone like him would appear right now to highlight how it all feels. Until then, music to view Gonzales by- Rage Against the Machine:
Guerrilla Radio
dude @ 77
I have a question for the lawyers: The President says his staff (past and present) are free to testify if in private and not under oath. I know this is a bad idea, but what are the actual legal ramifications of unsworn/non-transcribed/non-public testimony to a) real prosecution and b) Congressional Investigations? The spin has been that such testimony has been used before and is somehow an accepted practice. Like, when was that?
fwiw, I think that the president’s offering to have his aides speak at all, albeit w/o an oath or transcript, completely blows his claim of exec privilege out of the water.
i.e. “I don’t mind ‘em talking in private, but I’ll assert the privilege to keep them from talking publicly” - is patently ridiculous.
The hearing is up here
AGAG on CSPAN 3 now = link to C SPAN
we’re on
I would guesstimate that most attorneys, like most professionals, are decent folks and take pride in their work, and do the job. It just takes one rotten apple in the barrel to taint the perception. Gonzales is such an ‘apple’. Rotten to the core. I would encourage lawyers across this nation to rise up and say we’ve had enough. The rule of law is the only thing that stands between us and fascism.
He showed. Heh.
What channel is this on?
O/t and a heads up warning to any interested in Katrina-related news:
Apparently NBC has been preparing a multi-month investigative hit-piece on James Lee Witt (former FEMA head) claiming he has overcharged for services as a private contractor in the Gulf coast area.
I have no knowledge wrt any of his business practices but it certainly does make one question why they should have chosen Witt to spotlight vs. all the other SOBs who are making their fortunes on the backs of “there but for the grace of God” ordinary people.
Wish I had thought to make a note of the people making the charges; any bets on which political party to which they might belong?
If anyone in the Gulf area sees further MSM coverage on the subject, perhaps they can shed more light on this question.
[no linky - heard on scarbreath this morning]
Witt enjoys a good reputation within the construction community since leaving his post at FEMA. He went on to head an organization that spent years trying to consolidate the major building code organizations in this country and bring some uniformity in the building codes nationwide. As it happens, this month, the culmination of that effort was celebrated and all 50 states plus DC (some 21,000 jurisdictions) now use the same buildng code. Construction has a long history of breeding corruption and laundering money, so I cannot speak for what NBC may have uncovered. I would be surprised, however, if Witt’s behavior is anything like that of Brownie or Todd Whitman.
Days like this. In which we are governed by those who either cannot fathom the possibility that what they do is wrong, or else know damn well it is but do it anyway because they can (and do) get away with it. Rule founded on a basis of impunity rather than morality. And we have let them. Litbrit’s (previous post) point about the depth of Maryam’s anger hits home; the presence of our anger is not enough. It does not rise even to the level where it matches the wrong. It’s not strong enough. We have not yet allowed ourselves the burden of the anger we need to feel to get the word out, the media listening, our representatives really paying attention and not lip service. Getting the job done.
We don’t have a house divided. We don’t even have a house. We have a ruin. We have what will eventually become nothing more than a cellar hole in the deep forest of our own neglect. And the eyesight of the population has not yet cleared enough to recognize the need to tear down the rot and rebuild on what is still a pretty decent foundation. Without the anger there’s only helplessness. and we can’t afford that. Ever.
Sorry, I’m in a mood and a half this morning.
Millineryman @ 81
Give chase, man!
The Founders worried about (a) allocating too much power to the federal government — away from the people and the states, and (b) concentrating too much of the power allocated to the federal government in the executive.
The Founders’ idea was of a federal government with just sufficient power relative to the states and just sufficien power to fend off forein adversaries.
Since 1865, amendments to the constitution and supreme court decisions have allocated increased power to the federal government.
Almost all of the increased allocation has gone to the executive branch.
In the Founder’s scheme, the primary check upon the executive branch lay in the House of Representatives, the legislaative body supposedly most responsive to the people (because of the every-2-year rule as to House member elections).
The power allocated to the House intended to serve as a check on the executive branch lay chiefly in 3 areas: 1) the power to raise (or not raise) taxes, 2) the spending power, and 3) the power to impeach.
Fast forward to today: What’s broken is the House. It has the power to check George Bush and the popular mandate to do so (November 2006 elections). The House, however, is not today appropriately responsive to the people.
Reason in my opinion: House members have figured out that to get the money needed to crush opponents, they must largely disregard the will of the people. The proof here lies in the House re-election rates (greater than those of the Soviet Politburo) and the polls (two-thirds or more want out of Iraq, yet the House leaders dither).
The Founder’s scheme isn’t working.
But Cindy Sheehan gives me hope.
We need to have some principled conservatives join in to make this work too.
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What the Founding Fathers didn’t see was the importance of being re-elected verses the CHARACTER to follow thru when others are against you.